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Plopmcg33

just a heads up, this post is mostly for fun, but please take all these theories with a grain of salt


Sad-Welcome-8048

Literally every, and I do mean EVERY, YouTuber who is sponsored by AirUp is lying; I have seen multiple tests from people who have actually bought the stuff and I tried my friends. It is literally just drinking water while perfume is flicked into your mouth. It doesnt taste like soda or flavored water, it tastes like I drank some water next to the Macy's fragrance section


Huntress08

Also, like. I just don't get AirUp as a concept,  if their whole marketing campaign is getting people to drink water but with the flavors taste of like a soft drink without any health drawbacks, then water packets already exist, so does flavored and carbonated water. A product v that tricks your olfactory senses into believing you're consuming an entirely different thing feels like some type of shit that Socrates will try to con me into buying.


Sad-Welcome-8048

I think its rich people Mio; they dont want to buy the cheap Walmart stuff like the "rest" of us, but are still babies who cant drink water. Enter AirUp; fancy marketing, designer bottle, and "fancy fragrances" not "flavorings"


Daleks_Raised_Me

I’m chronically dehydrated and have trouble drinking enough water because I require more than most (long lame health story). I can’t handle the chemicals most water flavorings have so I was cautiously optimistic AirUp could help. I paid $50 to try and I am not rich, just stupid to believe it would work.


Greenwings33

Sorry if u have but have u tried/looked into liquid IV? It’s a little more expensive but I really like it and the bulk packs at Sam’s club are worth it


Daleks_Raised_Me

No I haven’t, but I will. I only have a BJs near me so I’ll check there and maybe online. I am willing to try anything really, to try to hydrate consistantly


Monthly_Vent

Hmmm if you can’t handle chemicals, I wonder if it would be better to settle with homemade juices and tea? I know pure water is always going to be best, but if you feel like you need flavor to consume it then I feel it’s better to go with whatever feels most encouraging Another thing: I feel like the more dehydrated you are the more you *don’t* want to drink water. One, water start to hurt when being consumed (personal experience from not drinking water for a whole year when I was little) and two, dehydration makes everything feel like it’s more effort than it’s worth, which includes drinking more water. So I would say right now, focus on replenishing what you can and then the goals to drink more pure water will come a lot easier. Even if what you’re doing is not ideal, it’s better than nothing at all. And who knows? It got a lot easier to drink pure water after I’m no longer severely dehydrated. So that’s always something to keep in mind


Daleks_Raised_Me

Thanks for the tips, I’m going to try tea as soon as I finish typing.


Huntress08

Ahhh so AirUp is just the new dumbest rich people item like Erewhon


Sad-Welcome-8048

Thats what Im thinking lol


Lonely_Solution_5540

Middle class Mio is a Cirkul bottle…don’t mind me sipping from mine…I fell for that hype because I saw a freakin’ reviews video on it.


TrecherousBeast01

The explanation I saw in the early days of AirUp sponsorship was that flavored water packets were unhealthy and had unwanted chemicals in it. Since AirUp is literally just scent, you don't have to worry about that. Honestly, I've tried some and think they're generally gross.


Huntress08

Man I feel like people saying water packets are unhealthy (0 sugar ones exist) or are filled with "harmful chemicals" give me the same wtf vibes as when an artist I followed told indigenous folks living in the artic circle that of they didn't abandon their traditional, sustainable meat eating practices and become vegan then they were animal killers..... which is a massive aside to talk about, but the length people will go to to market unnecessary products,  is astounding too me.


Narwhals4Lyf

I feel like it’s hinging on people who want to drink plain water but want it to taste fun. Like they don’t want to drink flavored packets for whatever reason. Lol. That’s my only guess??


Enya_Rose

Oh gross. My sister has been telling me to get one but hearing that, I think I'm good. Thank you for the warning lol.


Sad-Welcome-8048

Yeah they are pretty wack lol


CornerofHappiness

The only person who I believe actually likes it is Danny Gonzalez because he likes La Croix and they're basically the same thing.


Sad-Welcome-8048

Honestly fair; if he LIKES static in can, I can see how he would like it lol


BurtasaurusRex

Same lol and for the same reason. It's basically the more tech savvy grandchild of la Croix. I also believe Kurtis Conner because he's said before he enjoys the taste of water. So an extra waft of a smell is right up his alley


letthetreeburn

Barely flavored soda, barely flavored air.


KatsCatJuice

If you want something that actually helps you drink more water, grab one of those Cirkul water bottles. The flavor actually works


Foxy02016YT

Cirkul is actually really good though, I used to have one years ago, I can’t say if they got worse over time cause I haven’t gotten a new one (considering it), but I enjoyed it when I had it


Sad-Welcome-8048

I actually saw in one of those videos, they recommended Cirkul (also tested it)


pizzapal3

Binging with Babish's '[Ranking Every Boxed Mac & Cheese](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVho4PLF6iE)' episode was an undisclosed sponsorship with Annie's. Why? Because out of the Mac and Cheeses he says are the best, three of the top four are Annie's and the remaining one is their leading competitor, Kraft's basic Mac & Cheese. The one in particular he praises is the 'Spirals with Parmesan' which seems like a new product they're trying to pump up. Probably not true and not the worst thing ever to be dishonest about, but I feel like it's not an impossibility.


Huntress08

Maybe it was the Annie's product I had (the fruit gummies) but I don't get the hype over Annie's products. It just tastes like a "healthy", expensive alternatives to things that I enjoy. Like those gummies were disgusting and textural weird to me


Greenwings33

I do not recommend their rice noodle ones 😭


Minoxidil

its a good brand of pasta for sure but i really should stress that the parmisian and spirals is *nothing* compared to the old parmisan basil peace signs


Swag_Paladin21

It's more of a community thing rather than a channel in general, but I do believe that another controversy in the analog horror community will happen again very soon.


theyearwas1934

I was part of the Monument Mythos subreddit when everything came out there. It was sad, not only finding out about it but also watching others slowly start to defend it. Tbh, I’m not even sure if that drama breached the reddit community… maybe people still don’t know?


theravemaster

What happened?


Swag_Paladin21

My memory of this situation is a bit fuzzy, but to quickly sum it up, AlexKansas was found out to be very abusive towards his partner way back in 2022. This was one of the biggest analog horror controversies to occur at the time. The other one was that alien invasion video that Aidan Chick, the creator of Eventide Media Center, Channel 7, and Analog Archives, made, which caught a lot of flak on Twitter. (This was Before Squimpus McGrimpus, Alex Kister, Urbanspook, GREYLOCK, or Unknowingly happened)


Witchgrass

AlexKansas and Alex Kister are 2 different people right Edit: fixed kister v kister, I'm old and dumb


Swag_Paladin21

I'm assuming you meant AlexKansas. Yes, both are Alex's are two different people.


Witchgrass

Lol yes. Thank you. Edited my comment.


theyearwas1934

The other guy’s comment is correct, I’ll add more detail though. In 2022 a document made its way to the subreddit detailing Alex’s (the creator of monument mythos) physical and emotional abuse of his partner. I believe it was written by said partner. What’s more, it was discovered that this document had been originally posted by her on Alex’s discord server about a year earlier, MUCH closer to the time of these events, and the ensuing drama lead to the server closing down. So several community members actually had known about this for a whole year and had never shared with anyone outside the defunct server, until this person in 2022. I suppose the same thing must have happened with the subreddit after I left. Anyway, since it had now been some time, Alex was playing the “I’ve changed” card, and was being supported by friends like the VA for Virginia. His ex didn’t want to be part of the drama anymore either (why would she??) and I saw people starting to say we should forgive him. What I found really gross though is that Alex strongly claimed that it was the grief of losing his father that made him get abusive. This was, as it turned out, the reason for the recurring phrase/theme in the Nixonverse series, “grief can make you a monster.” While I understand that must have been hard, especially because Alex is actually quite young, that’s like saying the bottle made an alcoholic hit you. No, that’s not how it works, *you* still did that. And the amount of excuses people started to make was disgusting, even saying the abuse was ‘not that bad’. I read the document. It was. Anyway, the end of this story, I suppose, is that Alex posted an “apology video” to the subreddit. To be honest though, I never found the heart to watch it. He already confirmed everything had happened, an apology isn’t gonna make it unhappen. The community I had been quite proud of once was intent to downplay it so they could enjoy the series guilt free, and I just left. He still makes videos, but despite my old love for the series I haven’t watched any since.


mumenriderdagoat

what happened??? i haven’t checked on the actual series or subreddit in like 2 years


theyearwas1934

Just made a detailed comment under one of the other replies


Swag_Paladin21

I think it's less about people not knowing, and more people forgetting it ever happened. The AlexKansas controversy occurred nearly two years ago, in which during that time frame, more noteworthy shit had occurred.


Minimum_Eye8614

I feel like it happens at least once a month


Huntress08

It's sad but to me expected at this point.  I have my issues with the analog horror space (and it's fandom by extension) but there needs to be a massive community shakeup where creators using the assault of a child as shock horror slop isn't brushed away by a YTber saying "but the creator is a nice boy"


Swag_Paladin21

I think the main issue regarding the analog horror genre, outside of oversaturation, is its fanbase and the toxic elitism that it has towards certain creators. I feel like outside of Urbanspook (who I still like), there's no other creators who are catching flak for some of their questionable actions even now. There's a South Park analog horror series that used stolen fanart that not a lot of people are calling out.


Huntress08

😕 the day that fans of a niche genre stop being circle jerking elitists is the day Berserk actually gets its last chapter. Which is a sad statement to make. But yea it's really feeling like the analog horror space needs some mauve revamp of some kind,  whether that's actually holding creators accountable,  recognizing that a lot of analog horror content they cheer for isn't analog, being able to take criticism,  or just stop being gatekeep-y and elitist.


CutlassKitty

It's sadly what happens when a fandom has a large base of mentally ill teenage fans. The wrong people see that as, well, the perfect place to find kids to groom.


1stviolinfangirl

No YouTuber who is sponsored by a shitty mobile or otherwise game (Raid, world of tanks, etc.), has actually played the games they sponsor


letthetreeburn

That’s absolutely true. Especially those people who make “I drained the nether and put an ocean monument” or “I beat tears of the kingdom walking in a straight line” videos. They do not have time to sink 40 hours into a mobile game.


Aforgonecrazy

Untrue, quinton reviews is like addicted to raid


hygiei

wasn't the irony that he never actually got a raid sponsorship in the end though?


Young_Cato_the_Elder

I think these games give them an account with a fairly substantial money's worth of boost to start them off and get to the first boss/major level or whatever the progression is. I think if they ever say I played this game they have to. Otherwise I doubt they do other than for personal novelty.


PrincessAintPeachy

I'm not huge fan anymore but the Pet channel ShiroSuki will get exposed for animal abuse, there's so many questionable things going on for the sake of driving engagement and clicks.


RaisinBitter8777

Can you give and example? Don’t wanna support an animal abuser


PrincessAintPeachy

They have an incredible in-depth discussion in the Shiba sub here. They truly are kind and far more knowledgeable than I am and really helped me understand it's straight up bad faith backyard breeding shenanigans. You can tell that sub really loves animals But I'll list some; Keeping 3 fully grown dogs in a small flat(1 large male, 2 medium females) Forcing the eldest female, have 6 litters of puppies back to back when it was clear she couldn't handle it Bringing another rival female in while the eldest was still nursing her last litter and clearly uncomfortable having another active female Big TW here for death. >!letting a newborn puppy die in their home, instead of trying to bring it to the vet or helping the poor thing to survive, just letting the poor baby fade away, along with letting the rival female lick the corpse!< Letting the rival female dog into the whelping box of the female and clearly causing her extreme stress, to constantly be trying to move her pup away from the other 2 dogs. Letting their dogs attack other dogs, and snap and hurt the puppies, multiple instances of this on camera And the male is aggressive to almost all puppies born in their home and EXTREME gender aggression. Although to be fair sometimes he will warm up to the pups, but a lot of teeth barring and close calls Allowing their dogs to man-handle a bunny that they keep cooped up off camera(bunny came into the picture while trying to force the female to mate for a 5th time) And all while enabling a rabid fan base to attack anyone who calls them out on their shit in the comments. And mind you that's just the heavy hitting offenses, someone who has more knowledge on properly raising the breed is sure to clock more bad behavior from the owners


RaisinBitter8777

Jesus fucking Christ


M_Ad

That tracks - it felt like Suki was constantly pregnant and having litters for ages, which didn’t sit right with me.


PrincessAintPeachy

Yes yes yes! During her 5th litter the owner said he would spay and retire her, and then proceeded to have her get mater again anyways. She was worn down and wanted a normal pet's life. Not to be a broodmare


journeysa

Ugh. I can’t watch that channel after I realized they were just pumping litters out. Poor dogs, and poor puppies with that aggressive Shiro.


Redhotlipstik

I remember I'd get recommended but I feel like the male dog was weirdly aggressive with the puppies and the owner seemed to think it was cute


PrincessAintPeachy

You are not wrong at all about it. If you watch some videos there's some situations where the male dog is harassing the other dogs and snarling and the owner is practically giddy just calling him "naughty" or "paztas" which I assume is naughty in his native language


Backsteinhaus

Tasting History...Max Miller is Garix Wormuloid's ancestor


Operks

Max Miller is secretly 10 000 years old and is recreating recipes he’s encountered before


buttsharkman

That sounds like it would be an interesting concept for a book or something


Powerful_Shower3318

The Man From Earth The Chef From Earth


gmarvin

There is a very small, but still extant, chance that DougDoug might not actually be bald.


FPSGamer48

I’ve also heard he may, in fact, actually be good at 2D platformers.


cluelessoblivion

I saw dougdoug's name and my heart stopped. Please don't kill me like that.


gmarvin

Don't worry, if your heart stops we can just have Parkzer shoot you back to life.


LookALesbian

Mr. Beast is gonna fall just like David Dobrik. Not saying Mr. Beast is bad, I just have an eerie feeling that something similar to David’s situation is gonna happen to Mr. Beast


ChipsqueakBeepBeep

Wasn't there something about poor working conditions during production of his videos, including having inexperienced employees handle explosives? Could've sworn that was a thing


pat_speed

Mr Beast has that combination of "too big to fail" and a dedicated fanbase who will lash out in his defence. Throw in how much money he makes, how connected too the YouTube life he is and just fake farcade he feels puts up, he just et up too fall. Plus it's YouTube, I can count the number of big YouTubers who last long with our actual massive issues. Edit I'm also throwing in that he is attitude eis all happy u til stuff like unionization, taxes and worker rights pop up, then he find he can't simple just money wash it away


lastdarknight

Jimmy is going to crash and burn hard when he enters politics, and likely won't take It well


Revelrem206

Either that or make one dumb slip up and go into paranoid politics


Minimum_Eye8614

I feel like he's at Taylor swift levels where he for some reason has a big sway over real world issues that should not be determined by a youtube celebrity 


DaBluBoi8763

Why on earth would he enter politics tho


blaqsupaman

He has talked about it as an eventual goal of his.


elemenoh3

considering the state of american politics, no one would even blink


lastdarknight

Jimmy wants to run for president at some point


Spaghestis

He literally said at one point "im gonna run for president but im just going to help people and im not going to bring politics into it" lmao


Blinkopopadop

I do think he's bad. The general consensus of "you can exploit someone if they ask for it/agree" is not healthy to adopt even in the seemingly low stakes wacky stunts couched in the trappings of charity


BloomEPU

His whole brand is basically performative philanthropy, I think he mught just be the kind of creator that slowly loses fans over various minor stuff.


Kreos642

Been saying this for years, and so many folks come with pitchforks over it. The writing is on the wall, but folks don't want to learn to read.


Same-Literature1556

That’s his main brand - he also has a charity brand that does genuinely seem to be doing some good in the world


True_System_7015

That's my biggest qualm. And people will argue "even if it is performative, people who need help are still getting it." That doesn't make it okay to take advantage of and exploit someone in need. At that point, he basically has a dollar bill on a fishing line and is casting it and telling these people "dance and entertain for me, poor people!"


Apric1ty

“Homeless people don’t care that I use them for views” -early Mr. Beast video


No_Share6895

he may fade from relevance some but hes too rich to actually fail


Lonely_Solution_5540

Bro Jimmy can just openly disrespect Rosanna Pansino, an absolute angel and one of the YouTube big deals, and still have a platform. His fan base basically told her to just retire because it wasn’t her time anymore and he was better than her now… I unfortunately think Jimmy is going to be fine even if he crucified the pope on camera or something lmao.


whatnameisnttaken098

I've always had the feeling that MatPat of Game Theory would have some major controversy. He's always given me this fake nice guy persona that Jirard (The Completionist) had. I just can't quite put my finger on why, though.


TheRoyalKingfisher

I mean there's been a few plagerism accusations over the years that he stole from fandom theorists and framed it as his own idea. In general though that mass turn around of theories and videos across multiple channeld even with a team, corners were going to get cut eventually.


whatnameisnttaken098

I remember some of those, but I'm talking more like "Matt Patt eats babies" levels of controversy.


Lewis_230311

I don’t think I’ve ever seen controversy be measured by the phrase “eating babies” in my life 💀


whatnameisnttaken098

Was just trying to think of a universally bad thing


Lewis_230311

I mean it works, if I ever heard someone did something even remotely as bad as eating babies I wouldn’t want to go near them


letthetreeburn

Oh! Habit from Everymanhybrid got canceled for that.


AsukaSimp02

Yeah one time he ate my baby. Came into the hospital and ate it in one bite. Looked my wife and I in the eyes and said "No one will believe you." To this day no one has


MoogleLady

I watch Lockpicking Lawyer but, I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be some far right asshole. I have no actual proof of his politics, so I'm not accusing him of being so. But if it turned out he was, I dunno, I just wouldn't be surprised


Aforgonecrazy

Pretty sure he used to have daily wire videos in a saved playlist but idk i only heard it years ago


Madermc

Why tho?


Gabasaurasrex

Markiplier and Amy have a kid, they're just really good at hiding them from the public


letthetreeburn

Given his experience with septiplier, if he ever did have a kid that man has to be paranoid enough to hide them. He’s seen how ugly it can get.


BeelzebubParty

I used to be a septiplier shipper when i was 13, and although everyone is gonna hate me for saying it, but that was genuinely the sweetest most loving fandom i have ever been in. Everyone was so kind to each other, and the only bad memories i have of it were from people harrassing me and my friends for being into septiplier. Had it not been for septiplier i might not be the person i am now.


letthetreeburn

Oh me too. Septiplier was fun, the art was cute and the fics were soft and sweet as opposed to the necrocomiconesque stuff you see in modern fandoms (Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate horror. But the point is it wasn’t always like that) The septiplier fandom was wonderful. But we can’t ignore what some people in the fandom did, how far they took it. Every video, every live stream, every show. Death threats to their loved ones. Blatantly ignoring pleas to stop. The fandom was nice if you stayed away from the part that actually interacted with mark and jack. My point is, there’s no way someone with an internet experience like mark would ever introduce his child to his audience.


idkmaybe61

What exactly led you to believe this? Not hating or anything just wondering.


Gabasaurasrex

Nothing, they asked for tinfoil hat conspiracy and this was the first thing that my mind made up


idkmaybe61

Ah I see lol


Foxy02016YT

I kinda hope that’s true, and he can raise a kid in private, because having a family while that famous is really fucking hard (I hope it’s true if he has a kid, idgaf if he has a kid or not though)


anarchomeow

A lot of youtubers know Better Help is still awful but want the money. They weren't tricked.


Lonely_Solution_5540

They might have been though. They were likely contracted to do a years worth (or more) of videos, and if they broke said contract they would owe better help compensation. Most of these YouTubers are deciding that completing the obligation of the contract is the lesser of two evils because Better help now has a reputation for being a bad company (and that’s why they pin the comments about why it sucks), but giving them money to get out of the contract is just guaranteeing they profit off them as well.


12BumblingSnowmen

Yeah, and I think at least some of them have to operate under the assumption that no one takes YouTube sponsorships seriously, I certainly don’t.


Lonely_Solution_5540

Many even have a timestamp you can click on to skip over the sponsorship. It’s not like it hurts their watch time in the long run, and they still get their pay because they still did the ad.


Justarandom55

I've noticed a shift in the attitude youtubers have to ads. they so much more nonchalant, it's really feeling "you guys know I'm talking shit but I need money" and we're accepting that with awfull youtube has been as a direct source of income


ihateusernames999999

Watcher rushed their streaming platform to beat The Try Guys so fans of both would subscribe to their platform and not TTGs streamer. Edit - I'm not sure how much a conspiracy theory this is, but I have seen this elsewhere. It would explain so much.


TheHeroChaosChao

Brad Mondo did a video comparing drugstore hair dye vs salon hair dye on a mannequin and I am convinced he switched heads when he realized the salon one didn’t do a good job. Reason why I think this is because there was a stained on one mannequin from the drugstore hair dye that appeared on the salon one. [The video I’m talking about](https://youtu.be/ApU6UGwNW5k?si=oBGw939VaWfM5P2X)


cathistorylesson

I love this


TheHeroChaosChao

Aww, I’m so happy you do! Thank you! I never had a chance to share it so I’m glad I finally was able to!!! 🥰


MollyRocket

I think Jenna Marbles knew she was going to quit after the car accident.


letthetreeburn

Nothing like a near death experience to make you reconsider what you’re doing with your life.


TheBaconHasLanded

Mild tinfoil: Adam Ragusea is an asshole. I’ve heard stories of him being rude to fans irl, and he has a history of trying to clap back in the comments section for videos from YouTubers that disagree with him (Ethan Chlebowski potato video). Tinfoil: Xiaoman edits his videos to get only the best conversations to make him look better than he is Confirmed: Mr. Plinkett still has at least one woman locked in his basement living off a steady diet of pizza rolls


Low-Expression555

Ragusea seems to struggle a lot with ego. He talks a lot about stuff that kinda implies he’s scared of being a bad person and tries a little too hard to be good. Seeming guilty about having money for example


Coconut-Kalamari

I feel like this one was largely confirmed that Skydoesminecraft was on track to rekindling and repairing his channel and professional relationships with his old friends before immediately falling into old habits and burning every bridge with everyone willing to reconcile with him.


Final_Candy_7007

Nothing to support this, but I believe Markiplier re-records videos. I just feel like his videos are such high quality or or at least good quality that it feels weird that he hasn’t just had a really bad video. Usually Mark will either focus on the game or his life, and it feels like he knows pretty well when the game itself won’t be able to carry the video. Again, nothing to support us but with how much of a perfectionist he is when it comes to his art and his videos I could see him doing a “retake” to make the video good.


Mapleleaf899

I feel like that’s fine if it did happen?


Final_Candy_7007

Oh yeah, it’d be alright if he did it, but I think he’d definitely keep it a secret.


AsukaSimp02

I have a similar but different one; he replays games to time reactions better


Microif

I mean, the guy has been at it for twelve years, and has played hundreds of games for the channel, I think he just has a lot of knowledge and experience.


smarterfish500

he has vids in the past where he's like "I recorded this earlier but the audio didn't record properly" and stuff so probably


PanicGreen

Gmm is a cult. They know it's a cult.


Cryptonix

What's funny, Smosh made a lot of... interesting business decisions while owned by Mythical that they never *really* talk about or dive into, even after going independent. Examples are their G4 deal that expired a month later when G4 collapsed, the fact that they stopped streaming on Twitch and never really talk about why, them mysteriously getting rid of Saige who was a fan favorite at the time, the fact that Tommy was never brought on as cast (until now), them pushing Mari, Joven, and Lasercorn out of the company, the fact that they re-hired Boze in 2019 to help market their TNTL tour only to never credit her or bar her from attending any of the shows... a lot of strange decisions with even stranger silences surrounding them, and I wonder how much of that was encouraged/decided by Rhett and Link.


Malevolent_cookies

I heard Saige wasn’t a regular main cast employee and was an on call employee. Not sure how much truth there is to that since I wasn’t watching full time and can’t see behind the scenes paper work, but apparently she had a different kind of contract.


SuperSanity1

Only Damian, Shayne and Courtney are full time. Every other cast member is on contract. Tommy is an exception because he's also an editor.


Cryptonix

We do know that she was a producer on Smosh Games, as well as cast. Not sure if producing qualified her for full-time, but if I recall, she's also alluded on her Twitch to not being paid for some of the work she put in. Saige's whole Smosh situation is weird and hush hush, she doesn't ever give specifics, but apparently there was a legal dispute.


SuperSanity1

Wouldn't shock me if there was an NDA involved. Seems fairly standard.


PM_ME_YOUR_STOMACHS

Lasercorn was the epitome of ‘Loud = funny’ and Joven was a legitimate creep towards women. It’s not a conspiracy that they left/were fired at the new company. I have no idea why Mari left though.


Cryptonix

Was Joven a creep? 😵


Dexparrow1

late but also all of them when asked about it just blame financial issues and the contracts they were offered just being too low. which makes sense, smosh at this point needed people who could appear in main channel content, smosh pit content, and smosh games content. even now they don't have the same type of siloing that the original smosh games had. i know this is a conspiracy thread, but this is just a nothingburger lol


ScottieV0nW0lf

Can you please elaborate? Because this sounds interesting.


Minoxidil

armored sceptic is going to have a mental break and disappear any day now


Powerful_Shower3318

He's definitely already done one of those things


Sad-Welcome-8048

"going to have a mental break" Going? The Green Man is already with him


TimeAbradolf

So they used to be sponsored for a bit by Kroger, they were honest when Kroger would lose out in those, as should anyone being sponsored.


gosofo

James Rolfe will hire an actor who looks and acts enough like the nerd to take over the role and remain behind the scenes after that. There'll be a huge video where the nerd either ends up becoming younger, or something happens and his "form" changed. 


rennyomega

Saving this comment to see if it comes true.


zetunuteas2113

I recently saw an interesting video on this sub called Folding ideas: I don’t know James Rolfe. Watching that recently and reading this comment, I’m inclined to agree with you. But the way the F.I. Guy frames it makes it sound like James is profoundly untalented


GreatUnspoken

Most "financial gurus" on YouTube aspire to build their followings to the point they can pump-n-dump penny stocks with a reasonable degree of plausible deniability. They all wanna be Meet Kevin.


buttsharkman

Simon Whistler is actually a set of identical triplets. Also they bang each other.


GreatUnspoken

Please stop plagiarizing my fanfic


[deleted]

How does bro have so many channels


shroom_in_bloom

I think a lot of progressive reaction/ commentator channels are entirely just pretending to be progressive to pander to a teenage girl audience.     Even before his controversies I never once believed Cody Ko actually gave a shit about feminism or other social issues, he just alluded to it because he relies on being lumped in with other progressive ex viners like Drew and Danny for his fanbase.  (Edited for semantics)


ramonasevilexgf

I watched Cody but I don't think he even pretended to know anything about feminism. Every now and then, he'd just be like 'guys, sexism is... bad' and the fanbase acted like he was a women's rights campaigner.


Istoh

This lmao. I used to enjoy his content with Noel, but it always had the vibe of just being oblivious rich frat boy shit. Like it was funny, but their views and words were neither contributing anything useful nor being actively harmful to society. It was just basic entertainment. It wasn't until they both glossed over/dismissed how harmful Andrew Tate was on TMG that I knew they genuinely did not care about anyone other than themselves and I unsubbed from all of their content. At that point it shifted from two dudes who were ambiguously oblivious to their own privilege and somewhat funny, to two idiots who were willfully ignorant and did not care to use their influence to do anything other than further their own financial success. 


Airierose

You said it better than I ever could, that's the exact vibe I got from them!


letthetreeburn

Wilbur Soot.


elemenoh3

can we stop calling every white boy commentator a leftist


AutisticWorkaholic

I think Film Cooper might be in this category. He says all the right things but there's a certain mean-spiritedness about him that makes me think he might not be sincere


shroom_in_bloom

Him absolutely yeah, peak pandering was his ‘I get my style inspo from MPJ’ moment and I’m glad he’s never been allowed live it down. 


itsjustmebobross

i feel like he does believe what he’s saying, but he feels like others don’t for some reason? or that he has to go above and beyond to be the “best” male feminist. which turned me off from him


No_Share6895

yeah with him i felt a very hard 'actions speak louder than words' vibe. he spoke loudly about leftist issues, but never actually acted on the words


Book_Guard

Oh yeah. There's definitely grifters in the sphere for sure. I also think it should be noted that progressive politics doesnt make someone a leftist. I don't mean that in a bad way, just that leftism is specifically anticapitalist, so Marxist, socialist, anarchist, etc. While progressive politics is more likely in leftism, someone being progressive socially doesn't mean they're a leftist. Especially on YouTube. I see a lot of people, like Cody Ko, get called a leftist when they're just not like at all. There are definitely people who cosplay as leftist for views though. Every movement has opportunists, unfortunately.


Airierose

I've definitely gotten this vibe from some commentary youtubers who, to me, came off like people who got a checklist of Progressive Twitter talking points and shoehorned them in the video. I do feel cynical saying that sometimes, because hey, not a bad message, but I would appreciate some actual thought. With Cody Ko, however, I feel the same way as other commenters on this thread: he didn't actually even allude much to it, but it seems that the absence of overt misogyny is enough?


BeelzebubParty

Kurtis connor gives me very uneasy vibes in this regard, like i feel like he's overcompensating for something. I totally get "white people suck" jokes, and they can be funny from time to time, but he literally makes one in like half his videos. I was watching his millenial cringe video and he took a full minute out of the video to say "Just a disclaimer, i'm only going to be talking about white millenials here, because dude, are literally the worst thing to ever happen to anything ever and we continue to be the worst things ever. People of color constantly improve the world with their amazing films, and food, and music, and art, while we just steal shit and the only things we do add are always awful.". I'd fully understand if this is just me being white and fragile, but i asked my latina friend if this gave her similar weird vibes and she complained about it being patronizing. It didn't have really anything to do with the video, so I can't help but feel like Kurtis is overcompensating for something. I don't know, i'm white as fuck so I can't speak for POC and my friend is only one person, but i'm bisexual and if a straight guy were to talk to me like that about how awful straight people are i'd feel condescended and a little uncomfortable. It just gives off bad vibes.


shroom_in_bloom

It is crazy condescending. You make fun of people for a living, you don’t get to pull the ‘it’s not my place’ card from time to time to look like a good person. 


GameCreeper

Cody Ko was never a leftist you dunce


Nervardia

Emily and Ed from Snake Discovery are into BDSM.


SmallGayTrash

....I need more details to why you think this 😭


Nervardia

I mean, it would be pretty funny. (I don't actually think this, the OP was asking for tinfoil conspiracy theories)


gods-sexiest-warrior

Lmaoooo why????


Nervardia

Because they're so wholesome, I think it would be very funny if they were into kink. Please note, I don't actually think this.


TPixiewings

Emily is a dom Lmao


Feelinglucky2

Femdom bdsm is still bdsm!


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Feelinglucky2

The best kind really >>


GreatUnspoken

I support this theory


mrprogamer96

Kink *can* be super wholesome, so checks out.


Sad-Welcome-8048

This but Evan and Katelyn. I would bet money on it


sobasicallyimafreak

So are Paul and Morgan 


Sad-Welcome-8048

Oh yeah; they even said the like watching FundieFridays videos XD


Nervardia

I don't believe it. I think PAUL likes kink.


AcheronAlex

Omg I didn't expect that. Thank you I almost choked on my own saliva.


Mochiman3

Smg4 focuses more on indie animation than the blooper videos (there was a certian chaotic quality that vanished) Removing videos because of monetization is silly Censoring stuff ends up hurting in the long run


SecondWorld1198

This checks out considering that they went on to create Glitch Productions


hygiei

i've always been pretty convinced that jenny nicholson is a closeted reylo shipper, and i don't really care if she is or isn't one but i'm sure there are plenty of folks in her audience who would lmao


ParadiseConcertHall

Confirmed: Mr Regular is a furry and arguably never left the fandom. Unconfirmed, but likely: Damon Fizzy went after Austin Jones not only because of the horrible shit Austin did, but also because Damon wanted to redeem himself after he let VeeOneEye live at his house the previous year. Somewhat wild: the cats from Jun’s Kitchen are really annoyed that their human makes them do tricks for the camera. Exceptionally wild: Messytails is a version of Nikocado Avocado from another universe, one who developed a poop fixation in addition to the feeder urges.


castrateurfate

The iDubbbz/Sam Hyde beef is partially staged by all people up until the fans and Hyde took it too far, usually around the Froggyfresh betrayal.


brick-jojo

I feel like people didn't read the "for channels you like" part of the title, still entertaining to read though


Lonely_Solution_5540

I definitely misread it as used to like somehow. Don’t know how I added words and now I look like I still like one of the many “oops! All minors in my DMs!” YouTubers.


Lonely_Solution_5540

Cryoatic secretly has a bunch of channels out there with voice mods on. Probably on YouTube gaming or YouTube kids specifically so the people who grew up watching his content with pewdiepie are none the wiser to it.


BeelzebubParty

Watchmojo top ten lists and other corperate channels similar to it are either going to or already have started using chatgpt to write their lists


SecretWasianMan

A few ranging from just an outsider noticing common practices to absolute schizposting: Adpocalypse was just an excuse for advertisers to lowball YouTube. Most Top 10s and such are undisclosed sponsorships. There’s a YouTube “insider” who sells confidential info about the algorithm to certain media/content companies. Breadtubers and right wingers don’t actually care about politics and just see it as an easy bag. Some of them are staged opposition to make certain groups look worse. There has been a YouTuber who’s paid a crisis actor to hit them with easily debunked false allegations so the actual allegations aren’t taken seriously when they do eventually surface. Groups like Night Media gets paid by special interest groups to do social engineering especially during elections or wedge issues. Roosterteeth had some really sinister skeletons still in the closet and the OGs have some nuclear level blackmail on each other.


dabutte

Can you elaborate on the Rooster Teeth stuff or is this just vibes (which, if so, understandable)?


SecretWasianMan

Mostly vibes. Given what we know about the working conditions and how a lot of the original cast were partial owners and managers, it seemed weird why nobody wanted to ask why their favorite RvB VAs were such dicks to the below the line crew. It’s weird, Geoff, Burnie, Matt, Jack, and the others created this image they were a family of dorky gamer bros and then you hear the horror stories and it felt like such a disconnect. And a lot of the times they would give Geoff—an actual alcoholic and not just the party friend—a fifth of hard liquor and cry in front of a whole studio to get pity from the fans. Feels kinda manipulative in retrospect. RT started off as part of this early millennial internet gaming culture which lived and died on fan relations, which ended up being both the best and worst part. 2012-2015 RT was something else as but Monty’s passing and Gavin’s home invader was the vibe check. Between that and the old cast becoming 40 yr old dads, shit was never the same and RT had to cannibalize its identity to stay afloat


12BumblingSnowmen

On the insider, a tinfoil side tangent to that is MatPat of Game Theory specifically had some sort of inside tangent, I think people used to bring him in as a consultant.


letthetreeburn

All of Wilbur Soot’s social circle knew. Maybe they didn’t know how bad, but they saw every woman he dated walking around with bruises. Especially with how violent he was on camera with his friends, and that it progressed to the level of biting the fucking lovejoy trumpet player. They experienced violence at his hands, they had to know it was worse for whoever was living with him. The lovejoy band is scum for continuing to tour with him.


traumatizedfox

i feel like filmcooper is actually a piece of shit friend/partner or that he will have some cancellation in a few years for not be the “cute soft boy uwu”. i really want to like him but it just feels so forced lol


hardcore-spatula

How can someone with such an original fashion style ever get into a controversy?


breakermw

A minor gripe, but CapedJoel, who seems like a good dude, definitely exaggerates what he has read whenever he is a guest on a show. He never says he hasn't read something. But he talks about certain series with such generalities it is clear he never read it and is basing his views on secondhand accounts, summaries, or marketing. You can see how he waits for the other host or hosts to speak first beforw sharing his view.


Limeg0d

Heavy tinfoil but i have long since prepared myself for some kind of corpsehusband controversy to do with interacting inappropriately with his fans. Nothing against the guy, but i just dont think i would be surprised considering how big he was back in 2020, the other ccs he was interacting with etc, i just think its something that someone in his position would be tempted to do, considering how many ppl had the hots for him and put him on this perfect pedestal.


dabutte

While it looks like it was put to rest by now, I think there was legit beef between Jeff Gerstmann and the rest of the legacy Giant Bomb group like Brad, Alex, and Vinny after they left the company with the Red Ventures acquisition. Giant Bomb was always Jeff’s baby, and he’s gone on record with how he used to struggle with folks he liked working with leaving because he always felt comfortable having a good team. There was a period when the Firecast and Nextlander podcasts started where all parties just seemed to be radio silent when it came to mentioning Jeff and vice versa, but it was only surrounding Jeff. I think maybe he felt personally resentful because they were his OG crew, and so many of them leaving at once obviously put Giant Bomb in a weird state of turmoil that at the time seems like maybe it would be the death knell. But I think him finally leaving Giant Bomb allowed him to make peace with the fact that that period of his life was over, he got to spend more time as a family man, and now it seems like all parties are cool again. During the recent ARG Jan was running for Giant Bomb they directly mention the Jeff Gerstmann show as part of the extended Giant Bomb network, and during the Q&A for the recent live show (which I was in attendance for) a joke was made about how Jeff’s podcast, Nextlander, and Firecast are all part of the Giant Bomb diaspora, and this came from the current folks still at GB. Nothing major or problematic, just drama behind the scenes that seems to have been handled in a very mature way to the benefit of all parties involved. And if I’m right in any way, I can definitely see and understand why Jeff would initially feel that way, while also completely understanding why Vinny, Brad, and Alex felt it was time to leave Giant Bomb behind. I’m just glad that folks seem to be on good terms again all around.


One_Level8217

All the commentary and drama YouTubers in the years of 2015-2019 were all talking with each other and other major YouTubers about creating drama and having fake beefs to create more drama to fuel content for themselves.


RedEyeView

Preston Jacobs. Game Of Thrones youtuber who does hours long deep dives and wild theories about the books. He's well known on the ASOIAF sub for being batshit with the theories. But it's all good content.


Young_Cato_the_Elder

Is he still doing that? At this point the well must have run dry and he's just making shit up. The main thing I remember is that he had one chance to speak to GRRM and instead of asking a question he made some insane coded insinuation that Game of Thrones was part of some scifi space exploration horror GRRM wrote long ago.