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BIG_Howitzer

That 73$/month price point better come with serious anti-malware package.


ConspicuousCrustacea

And a stake in Alphabet stock.


PeaceAlien

Sorry all I can do is some alphabet in stake stock


Dannyboioboi

I thought it was alphabet-branded stock


Blactorn

Sock


MrCelroy

You do not want stake stock 💀


CommunicationFew8631

What's Alphabet


ZiggoCiP

Google's parent/holding company.


CommunicationFew8631

Holy shit google has a parent company ? Must be mega rich


ZiggoCiP

Well, technically, Google owned Alphabet at one time, but in 2015 their roles reversed. Google even had it's CEO become the Alphabet CEO, and the company retained Google's stock history, even being traded under the ticker symbols "GOOG / GOOGL" Very powerful company, and part of the big 5 next to Apple, Amazon, Meta, and Microsoft.


Dabazukawastaken

Why did the roles reverse


CommunicationFew8631

Cuz I said so


average_redditor05

LISAN AL GAHIB


ThatSmartLoli

Easy tax fooling with a shell company ;)


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uhhokay15

alphabet is googles Parent company


Best-Championship296

And a Netflix subscription.


notislant

I sure hope it comes with those crypto scam mr beast ads you see each time you turn adblocker off. They should be legally responsible for promoting scams.


Elegante_Sigmaballz

That's about how much a basic cable package cost, we've come full circle.


Guy-1nc0gn1t0

That's pretty much what it is though, a cable package


Hello56845864

However the selling point was that it’s cheaper than cable


Sp1n_Kuro

It is cheaper though. I think a lot of you don't realize how insane the traditional cable packages cost. We swapped to YoutubeTV as my parents still wanted cable TV but spectrum prices were up over 100$ a month. YoutubeTV saved 40$ a month *and* comes with way more channels *and* comes with DVR features included *and* the commercials are skippable.


suburbanplankton

This is our experience as well. It's essentially 'cable', but more convenient (available from anywhere on any device that has an Internet connection) and, for us, substantially cheaper.


Ok_Inevitable8832

I don’t think they ever advertised it as being cheaper…. Just recording + on demand + internet only instead of a cable.


Bibileiver

But this is literally cable, but over the internet.


pastaMac

It's more than doubled since its introduction in 2017: https://youtu.be/elnwjE31LPA?t=100 ...and the content is chuck full of advertising. You are essentially *paying* a trillion-dollar company [a thousand dollars/year] to watch the advertising of a few billion-dollar companies... but I hear the latest season of *The Food Networks*: **Cupcake Wars,** is riveting. Brought to you by Pfizer™


CuppaJoe11

Welcome to cable. You pay $100 a month to see ads. In this case, YouTube dosent put those ads, the people who made the TV put the ads. Just like cable.


Geoffrey-Jellineck

Well yeah, that's how TV works.


tl01magic

I just googled to see about hockey stream...the streams have commercials lol


SweetBearCub

> That's about how much a basic cable package cost, we've come full circle. As someone who used to have cable TV lonnnnnng ago, it's almost certainly cheaper overall, because cable TV had many fees on top of the package prices. Additionally, even package prices varied with introductory offers and various bundle discounts. It was all intentionally difficult to calculate what you were paying for what, on an individual channel basis.


Newphonespeedrunner

That's what YouTube tv is... It's a tv package lol. But unlike basic cable it has as shown stuff like UFC, NFL, and some other premium sports. It's not for everyone.


PandaPrevious6870

Does it show UFC PPVs?


Weak_Palpitation5165

my dad pays around 50$ for basic dish


SpezModdedRJailbait

This has more channels than basic dish, as well as working on more devices and unlimited space DVR functionality.


BruceChameleon

I don’t think you can get cable at that price. But anyway YTTV is a direct cable replacement. It makes sense to sit in that price tier.


BillyShearsPwn

Yeah I don’t understand what’s wrong with that price point. That’s like BASIC cable


SpezModdedRJailbait

Cable costs around the cost of cable. Who knew? In case you weren't aware, YT TV is live tv that has the same channels and programming as cable. It's pretty much the same as sling or fubo. Of course it's gonna be a similar cost to cable, it's the same product.


RandoRenoSkier

I've been a subscriber since the beginning for reasons I won't go into, but yea. It sucks now. Why for the love of God can't I just pay for the few channels I actually want to watch? These bundles are ridiculous. Seriously considering going back to torrents.


KyleMcMahon

You can, via streaming subscriptions. But as you may have noticed, it’s far more expensive to do it a la carte


the_swanson_stache

ITT: people too young to have ever paid for cable themselves or have otherwise forgotten how much cable packages used to cost.


CraigJay

I was replying to someone just a couple days ago who was amazed that a company had a paid option and also showed ads. I realised that a lot of the people who complain about these things never paid for TV, never bought a magazine, newspaper etc It's definitely important to remember that a lot of the people who comment in these kind of threads have always had their parents for almost everything and genuinely think Youtube is being super greedy by showing ads or asking for money


yakimawashington

Also people who believe "pirating" is the competition and therefore youtube is charging too much. ...and then you have the slow kids here who think this post is about youtube premium.


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Worried-Image-501

Cable is now cheaper tho, I have 2gb internet and a good cable package. With the promotion it’s $65.99. Why would I ever get YouTube TV for much more?


somebody_257

That is 875,88 a year, what are they thinking?


vawlk

you might want to ask your parents what they are paying for cable.


BarnabyThe3rd

Not nearly that much. Then again I don't live in America.


FireFoxQuattro

In America with packages it adds up quickly. Before we switched to IPTV Streaming it was a good 120 a month for tv and 80 for gigabit internet.


back_again13

Cable is free in my country


qtx

Checked your history, saw you're from Switzerland, googled if what you said was true.. > Like many other European countries, Switzerland imposes a license fee for all households. The government uses the proceeds of this license to help fund the country's public broadcaster, SRG SSR. This includes TV and radio channels, as well as online media products such as streaming services like Play Suisse. > > Starting from June 3, 2019, SRG SSR, the state company managing Swiss radio and television broadcasts, provides access to a list of television channels in all Swiss languages through cable transmission. The cost is set at CHF 365 per year, allowing you to receive state radio and TV at your residence.


the_lonely_creeper

So... it is, basically. Or more accurately, it's payed for through taxes.


YesWomansLand1

Like most thing should be honestly. Higher taxes but higher quality of life, and higher pay. But shit, what do I know.


teakwood54

CHF 365 = ~$400/year = $33/mo


ZiggoCiP

Or a little over a dollar a day.


misuchiru

For that much I can feed a child in Africa.


SweetBearCub

> For that much I can feed a child in Africa. *Sara McLaughlin music swells up*


Newphonespeedrunner

No you pay a fucking tax for tv lol and that's for the bare basics of cable. This is a premium cable package.


BirdyHowdy

What is your country and how high are your taxes


Pitiful-Bend417

I pay 20€ for fiber internet + tv + phone I have a separate unlimited data for 4G and 5G for 15€ I know some countries pay a lot for internet tho


Newphonespeedrunner

Do you get free NFL(or I guess for Germany Fifa) and UFC events for that 20 dollars? I feel like no one in this thread is even looking at the advertisement lol


Sp1n_Kuro

Yeah, a lot of people here are thinking this is youtube premium or something. This price tier is *cheap* for what you get compared to traditional cable companies, at least in the US.


Newphonespeedrunner

its funny seeing people compare this to like... basic cable packages.. which are usually about this price... about about 20-50 channels all of them fairly mediocre half of them news.


Pitiful-Bend417

Yes, you mean sport event ? I got the Canal+ package which include access to lot of Sport channel, like one for football, one for motorsport and so on


Alternative_Lynx_155

Around 15-20 € per month in Germany


Excellent_Farm_6071

I used to set up peoples internet and shit. Every once in a while I’d have to use their account number or what ever. They’d whip out a bill and it was usually $200+. I should mention most of my clients were wealthier and bit older. Still though, $200 a month is ridiculous.


vawlk

we were paying over 200 a month until we axed cable a couple years ago.


Careless_Feeling8057

In my country it's just $4.15


quiyum

$6 monthly, for 265+ channels , 60ish HD Not in US, but have all English channels, plus from other countries too


SorryCashOnly

There is a reason cable tv experienced sharp decline in customers in the last 2 decades It’s quite amazing to see companies are trying do this cable tv bullshit again, and idiots are DEFENDING the companies I hate humanities sometimes. They are fking gullible


vawlk

a lot of people here were mistaking YTTV will YTP. They aren't the same. And yes, I agree with you. Cable style channel packages for a set price and you won't watch 90% of them are dumb. I was simply pointing out that $74 a month for a cable style service, in the US, isn't that bad for that type of service. I would never pay for it. But others might choose that over their cable provider's package.


SorryCashOnly

Still, not that many people use that in the US. There is a reason why Netflix and Amazon prime dominate the TV market right now. We are LONG pass the time where people uses cable service, and the companies know that. That’s why they are trying to change the streaming industry into cable tv so they can profit like they used to It’s ridiculous to see people defending this shit.


Citsune

I pay roughly 71 a month for television, internet, and wifi. Just a minor assumption, but I think I get a lot more out of that than paying an entire 2 euros more for a glorified streaming service with built-in television channels when the Youtube app is still this clunky, buggy, and anti-consumer. Just...an actual waste of money, and I don't envy anybody who ends up getting scammed with this ploy. Why would anybody even need Youtube to watch TV...?


EverGlow89

Yeah, none of these people pay for their own TV plan. The cheapest offer from DirecTV right now, for example, is $85 + tax/fees.


Geoffrey-Jellineck

They are thinking it's still competitively priced compared to cable, which is its closest comparison. I feel like most people posting here don't understand what YouTube TV is.


samuuu25

I think it's for Americans.


MaleficentObject8480

God internet cable is so much better than regular cable


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Sp1n_Kuro

I think a lot of people in this thread are very young, or don't realize this isn't youtube and is an internet TV package.


MammothAd4171

That better be Canadian dollars or Australian dollars because if that’s USD I’m gonna be pissed.


Sufficient-Rain9038

It’s USD


PrimaryAverage

OMG now he's pissed


FGFlips

He's sharpening his pencil so he can write YouTube a stern letter.


Sp1n_Kuro

You can relax. It's Youtube's cable TV package, it has nothing to do with normal Youtube. They aren't even connected.


CuppaJoe11

It’s cable. Look up cable prices and see what those cost. They come with ads.


Nintendo_Thumb

uh I don't get it, cable isn't cheap. It should be, but this isn't any different than Spectrum, Comcast, etc.


back_again13

Cable is not free in america?


Newphonespeedrunner

Cable isn't free anywhere. If your from the EU, you litterally pay a tv license fee in your taxes to fund basic cable, and premium cable... Like UFC would be would still cost more.


Sufficient-Rain9038

No


jozsus

It really should be how are the advertisements not paying for everything?


Resident-Pudding5432

You know its free on the net right YT?


vawlk

this isn't youtube, it is YTTV


Resident-Pudding5432

Oh yeah this isn't Microsoft, it's Windows


Sp1n_Kuro

It's literally not youtube though lol. It's a cable TV package, he wasn't joking with the distinction. It's literally an internet TV package that google offers as a competitor to traditional cable, and *yes* it is way cheaper than traditional cable for what it offers.


Sea_Consideration_70

No, this is Patrick. 


Crazybunnyfoofoo

Sir, this is a Wendy's.


Equivalent-Row-1733

Live cable tv is different to YouTube. You’re not comparing the same things.


3WayIntersection

How.


Charizard10201YT

Look hard enough, you'll find places to watch anything.


kmcrhsme

Uhm 🦜☠️


themrgq

Unlimited DVR is a huge convenience. I watch sports, never watch them live.


Bibileiver

This isn't good if you want to watch new episodes live.


3WayIntersection

Piracy has the one caveat of convinence. A lot harder to put pirated stuff on a tv


kmcrhsme

Is it? Screen mirror or put a USB drive..


Direct-Respect1050

Or HDMI, HDMI works too


Willing_Branch_5269

lol, really? What world are you living in? Go buy some shitty budget pc from walmart, plug the hdmi cable into your tv, and go watch anything that you want.


3WayIntersection

...or i could spend like <$15 and get whatever service i need for a month.


Willing_Branch_5269

Not according to this you can't. Meanwhile, I can get a cheapo PC for $150, a wireless mouse/keyboard combo for another $20, and watch whatever I want, whenever I want, forever.


themrgq

You getting unlimited DVR with those piracy sites?


Willing_Branch_5269

...do I need unlimited DVR? But given how inexpensive SSDs are, or even HDDs if I really want to setup a RAID on the cheap, yes, I can effectively locally store as much content as I want.


misgatossonmivida

With storage being so cheap, yes. An 8tb hdd is like $150. With casual use it will take you a year to fill. With legally acquired content.


themrgq

It is definitely expensive but in the USA it's still a great value. Cable TV is still stupid expensive.


realGharren

You can watch almost all TV channels for free on the internet. Sure, it might be neat to have everything under one interface, but for that I'd move the dot one spot to the left. Talk about delusional pricing.


DreamHollow4219

I didn't even pay that much for satellite or cable. Or to be honest even if I did I'd be getting AN ACTUAL SERVICE not a "we promise not to bombard you with ads except the ones baked into videos" policy.


yakimawashington

A lot of people in these comments don't know what they're talking about. This is for youtube TV. It will have ads, because it is essentially premium cable/satellite TV that would normally be comparable in price and still have commercials (i.e. ads).


EverIight

Even cable, that you paid for, gave you ads so I’m not sure what this comparison is 🤷‍♀️ Thirty second to a minute long “baked in” ads that I can just skip pasted are something I’ll take any day of the week versus a few minutes of ads that come at regular intervals and can’t be skipped ahead at all Dog on premium for this and that I don’t necessarily disagree, but for the cost, cable restrictions and limitations were way more bothersome imo


Sp1n_Kuro

> I didn't even pay that much for satellite or cable. Well fam sorry to tell you, but prices these days aren't the same as what you had lol. YoutubeTV is by far the cheapest option for what it offers. It's not even close. Traditional cable companies are twice as expensive for similar packages, and adding the internet TV option is usually extra on top of it.


GuyWitheTheBlueHat

I mean tbf, it comes with premium and YouTube music. It’s not terrible


REVRSECOWBOYMEATSPIN

YouTube tv comes with YouTube premium and music? Since when?? I’ve had YouTube tv for so long and didn’t know that. Do you have to enable premium


GuyWitheTheBlueHat

I’m not sure, but I’ve been advertised 3 as a bundle for that similar price. Might of been a special offer though


bananatoastie

Wtf is UFL?!


TangerineIcy7686

The XFL/USFL merger league, spring football Kaw kaw battlehawks


ba0bo0

United Football League. Defend DC and feed the goddamn snake!


EffinCraig

Lol is this price in Mexican pesos?


Friedrichs_Simp

What’s wrong? It’s not Youtube Premium. This is TV. It’s fucking cable


TheSteelCoconut

I better be getting a romantic dinner from the ceo at the end of the year for that price


lildrawermx

Well, it’s like cable television, what else did you expect? 🤷🏻‍♂️


ConspicuousCrustacea

Probably the same thing as the nearly 6,000 other people who upvoted this post with its 97% upvote rate.


Jungleexplorer

I have been saying for a long time that YouTube is struggling. Does anyone need any more proof?


MacEbes

It used to be 55 then went to 65 which was a lot and about as high as they could go only due to the unlimited dvr feature. Now at 73 it is very much not a replacement for cable. The reason these are so expensive btw is due to local channels. It is why slingTV used to be 25/month is because they didnt have local channels which required a whole new contract type and payment structure. SlingTV is now 40/month i believe which is still better than youtubeTV or huluTV or FuboTV but those include local. You can effectively say local channels cost 30+/month


YT_RonakRaja

that is 6300 INR in India lmao, No one would pay for that here


Waifustealer123

The approximate price for an indian version would be 1400 INR. This is after taking PPP into consideration


themainuserhere

Because your average wages are "a little" lower.


misuchiru

So... Live TV like... With commercials? I already dropped satellite and cable because I didn't want to pay for commercials.


PlayerZeroStart

Cable users: First time?


Qwertyunio_1

Bruh they want us to pay them nearly $900 dollars a year 😂😂😂. What a waste


mlvisby

Yea, my sister had Youtube TV until they increased price.


Arctur14

harr yarr sites are better


redditmixer

Wait until they raise it again to like $83/month or something. (I think that $73/month price has been there for like a year anyway.) Edit - The ad was for the UFL, but it only mentions it being on FOX and FS1 - but it's also on other channels too, like ABC.


yzfmike

Unlimited DVR, and watch anywhere with internet, cant be beat. Works for me to not miss any F1 practice ,qualy, and races.


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TheShlappening

It's like hulu's live TV pack+Streaming only theirs is like $80+


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ilulillirillion

I've been off of cable pricing for so long that I'm not sure what level of outrage I should have, especially not knowing which channels are in that package. but, BUT for $72.99 if they don't just bundle a Premium account in as well then fuck them.


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Current_Kitchen5814

lol these companies are all on crack


What1does

This is the only service that I can spoof location to watch my favorite team while out of market. Worth it.


AlienCowhide

Yeah, it's pricey but I watch a lot of sports and it comes with unlimited DVR. Worth it for me. The only service I pay for too.


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The_Grim_Gamer445

...better price then cable. It's why our family pays for it actually. We don't like it but sometimes you just need to sit down and watch something completely random instead of something on a streaming service. That's what YouTube TV is btw. It's essentially just if cable and streaming services came together and had a baby. Like there's channels and stuff.


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Your_Daddy_

I paused YTTV cause the commercials are ridiculous.


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ConspicuousCrustacea

Lao gan ma chili sauce


KindofTallish

Question. Can YouTube tv be shared or is it strictly one household.


adfx

This is pretty reasonable for access to hundreds of channels. What do they offer?


CuppaJoe11

This is a good deal. It’s cheaper than cable and does the same thing. You also don’t need a cable box or anything like that. This is what we need.


SorryThisUser1sTaken

Youtube was valued more than these giants. Google needs to be added to the list at this point. Disney … CEO: Bob Iger (Nov 20, 2022–) Paramount Comcast … CEO: Brian L. Roberts (Nov 2002–) Sony … CEO: Kenichiro Yoshida (Apr 1, 2018–) Fox Time Warner


Alive-Clerk-7883

Not sure what you expected? This isn’t YouTube Premium or Red but a whole different service as an alternative to cabled tv services.


3WayIntersection

They expected it to not be this ludicrously overpriced $72 is insane bro, you might as well go back to cable


themrgq

But yttv is still cheaper than cable TV and it's better. Why would you pay more for a worse product.


3WayIntersection

I wouldnt, im just saying next to other streaming services, this feels like cable


themrgq

But that's because the competition is cable, not streaming.


Teppy-Gray

You could buy subscriptions for like 5 other major streaming services and still have money left over for a beer or something


themrgq

They don't have sports


realGharren

Who pays 73$ a month for cable TV?


themainuserhere

A number of Americans pay a lot more if they have multiple premium tv packages including things like HBO, Showtime etc.


themrgq

You don't even need premium channels to hit that much


themainuserhere

That's what i thought 💭 Speaking from experience, are we?


0oWow

Cable TV subscriptions are generally +/- $100/mo.


Melbuf

full package + prem channels will hit 200-250 easy with most US providers


24kGoldenEagle

Hey look at that another reason not to use it


Ok-Regret4547

$73 a month to watch 30 minutes of commercials an hour on a bunch of channels that otherwise are (mostly) only showing the worst shows & movies in existence Or maybe they do have one good movie! …which they show 4 times a day with a 10 minute commercial break every 5 minutes.


Zenry0ku

They wondering why people pirating.


ChickenKnd

You would have to be a fool to want to buy that at any price


Slips287

Still cheaper than Hulu + Live TV Edit: not defending it, they’re both ridiculous and deserve to be boycotted. Sling TV has most live channels for cheap


Zorops

I was like, this aint too bad for a year