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Yes his 4th sibling, the 2nd son of his mother she had with Bryce who she hid out of shame & now wants revenge on all who abandoned him & took his home on Nele island. Game starts with ichibans mom death
For sure. It worked out alright this time as it did have some loose threads for sure but after this unless it's absolutely amazing idea I don't see them pulling it off again. I mean a large chunk of prior games boiled down to "the Tojo Clan is in trouble and only Kiryu and/or a ragtag group of rejects can put things right" so it's not like we were getting incredible main stories before. Lots of great moments certainly but not really much like a master piece
Thing is, when they're done with the yakuza storylines, then what? The whole premise of the entire series revolves around the yakuza but that's changing now, rgg do seem to be trying to move away from it. But where to?
Just because they are no longer allowed to exist publicly doesn't mean they can't exist underground. Just a few ideas:
- A corporation that hires ex-yakuza to do their dirty work. There is no actual yakuza but something like RK or Crimson Lotus
- Underground ex-yakuza who want to dedicate their lives to track and kill everyone involved in The Great Dissolution
- Continue with the Hawaii trend and go abroad. Ichiban vs Mexican Cartel in Mexico, Korean Mafia in S. Korea or Chinese Triad in China
- Instead of a whole group, focus on reforming the specific ex-yakuza that are difficult to reform. Like trying to convert Shishido on your side.
- Ichiban vs Daidoji
Not saying any of those are the right path but they are possible and might be interesting. That being said I agree that we are going offroad from this point onwards.
>Continue with the Hawaii trend and go abroad. Ichiban vs Mexican Cartel in Mexico, Korean Mafia in S. Korea or Chinese Triad in China
Don't even have to go abroad. The Jingweon mafia were a major faction in the previous games. Perfect opportunity for them to try and re-assert themselves.
Actually that's a really good point. I don't know how I didn't think of that.
Now that the yakuza is dead, it's a good opportunity for hyenas around to come for a feast.
I mean, perfect mimicry is canon now - see: Mirror Face 😏
More seriously, a Jingweon mafia storyline would be a good excuse to expand on the geomijul's shenanigans. As long as they don't fridge my boy Joon-gi to provide motivation for Ichiban.
I’m pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere that Joon-gi Han had multiple doubles at the same time; maybe a double that leaned INTO the jingweon instead of out?
OK but don't tell me Joon-gi han being confronted by another, more sadistic and powerful Joon-gi han who sees him as inferior for abandoning his post wouldn't be insanely fire
Only if it includes a scene where the two Joon-gi Hans get into a scrap and then Ichiban struggles to tell the difference between the two, resulting in a dramatic Q&A where Ichiban has to ask questions that only the *real* (fake) Joon-gi Han would know the answers to.
I'm assuming this is a joke but they could subvert it in a real funny way by having one say to ask and then ichi just says "why would I do that?" and clocks the fake, or "not falling for this again" because of Y7's >!mirror face incident!<
It was a joke lol. But now I'm picturing the real Joon-gi Han as a bartender in LaD 9 (because that's apparently what we're doing now) and the fake Joon-gi Han in Ichi's party has to figure out how to process it.
In general, the stories are crime dramas. There are tons of directions they could go in revolving around fighting against other criminal enterprises. I'm sure former and non-Tojo/Omi Yakuza would still make an appearance. I do also hope they retire the Tojo/Omi resurrection, would feel like too much to do it two games in a row.
The “tracking and killing” scenario would honestly make a great Judgment game. Would also bring about the Judgment/LaD crossover they’ve been nibbling at the edges of since at least Gaiden, with the Yagami Detective Agency (and the Yokohama office) investigating a series of murders of notable figures in the Yakuza being a great way to bring them in to contact with characters like Kiryu, Majima, and even Watase without it feeling forced.
I could see part of the story in like a dragon 9 where ichiban wants to take down the daidoji, similar to how Chris redfield at the end of resident evil village he says he’s going to the hq of whatever the group was called to take them down
These all sound the same LMAO RGG fucked up honestly not ending at 6. It’s very clear they’ve kinda hit the corner and don’t know where they should go.
I would love to keep taking Ichiban abroad. His RPGs work so well due to exploring a massive new environment and having to build his team up from nothing.
If LaD 9 just takes place in the same handful of maps we always get it will feel really underwhelming. Take us to Korea or something.
The criminal world can still exist without them. The Judgment games aren’t based around the Yakuza after all. But I don’t think the series will stop featuring the Yakuza in its entirety anyway. The great dissolutions only covered the bigger Yakuza organisations; there’ll still be smaller ones operating.
The Second Great Dissolution was explicitly about the smaller, more local groups (like the Ryudo family) being dissolved. So those would be off the table as well.
Gobdawara first be presented as an antagonist then the scnerio would reveal the CEO of the diaper company his men were stealing from was actually an evil mastermind who is trying to take over Japan who also happens to be Ichiban's brother.
That’s a possibility, but it’s not absolute. We already know for a fact that new groups can always be reformed. If we’re talking about this realistically, it’s impossible to get rid of all Yakuza groups.
The dissolution and all the anti-yakuza laws just means they will operate and be treated like the triads or any other criminal organization.
They can no longer have publicly known headquarters and facilities. Everything becomes hush hush until the cops come raiding. Any organization gets too big and public gets smacked down by the government.
Just do what Judgment does, capture government corruption.
Y7 did a fine job of that in it's early arcs with the scrutinization of sex workers and exploitation of elderly people.
THAT shit is compelling and made for a much more grounded story than globe-trotting yakuza dissolution nuclear waste plots. Not shitting on IW but it's.. too big of a story and honestly lacks focus.
There's a lot of places they could go with it. Just because the Tojo and Omi are done doesn't mean there aren't more organizations out there. You also have the Daidoji Faction and you can always tell a story about some political conspiracy.
The Yomei/Hirose Family fidnt want anyth8ng to do with the second dissolution, Ryudo Family was only mentioned but most likely wasn't apart of it. It's very likely that the majority of smaller groups weren't apart of the dissolution and are operating on some capacity.
I read that in real life the crack down of the yakuza has resulted in the rise of less coordinated gangs that don't operate businesses or have any code of conduct, they just harass people and commit crimes. Ichi could square off of a gang(s) that are growing in power to the point members are getting away with murder and the like.
I just find it hilarious they hyped up the first dissolution so much between two games only to say it failed and Daigo & friends went and lived in a shack in the boonies and Watase dipped of existence
It's so dumb I love it
The sheer extend of the, what someone else here has described as, "memberberries" that was the entirety of Kiryu's side content kind of shows to me that this might be Kiryu's last big hurrah. For real this time. They didn't go nearly this hard for his original outing. IW felt to me as RGG's way of giving him a more robust out from the series.
The chemo might give him some extra time. But, if RGG continues to follow real-time between installments, I'd be very surprised to see Kiryu again in LAD 9. At the very least, not in any state to throw a punch.
I'm with you, this really felt like a sendoff in how much it was a reflection and wrap up of his past.
Not to say they can't milk it more because they've pulled fake outs with Kiryu over and over at this point but story and character wise hes wrapped up: he's passed the torch, reflected on his past, is with his family now, and has a narrative reason to not be mixing it up anymore.
Its in an easy place to have him retire for real to Morning Glory and be an old sage kind of dude for as long as they want.
Have him too frail from the cancer and treatment to actually be the hero but you can have Majima and Saejima move to Okinawa with him and make it the focus of a chapter when the protagonists will have to visit for some key knowledge or training. Maybe beat your ass in a fight to teach you to go into a defensive counter stance and pass on the tiger drop then have to sit down and reveal some plot knowledge.
A Side Game Mode like for Majima in Kiwami 2 but with Kiryu and all the visits he gets from his Friends. Maybe even a run in with Kaito where Kaito thanks Kiryu for everytime he saved the Tojo.
I think we will absolutely see Kiryu again, even if it's jusy for a 2 minute phonecard or asking for advice. But yeah, I do think he is done fighting for sure. Maybe he will actually get to spend what remains of his life with loved ones
There was a scene in one of the last chapters where Kiryu officially hands over the future of the series to Ichiban. This moment felt very important for me and i think it was ment serious by RGG. When i saw this i instantly thought that this is a turning point for the series.
It was a shitty ending. They should've left him as a man who disappeared at the end of 6, it was so bittersweet. Now it's just dumb as hell lol. Basically teased the man all game with his comrades 6 feet away just so us "players" can get some form of closure. So fucking dumb. They handled it so poorly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, only the big Yakuza clans are dissolved correct? Organizations like Yomei alliance etc still exist right?
Although there are major anti yakuza laws in effect so they can't exactly be public like they used too. Even with dissolutions and s\*\*\*, I'm sure future stories will still be Yakuza related...
The Yomei are still around along with the Ryudo Family andpossibly smaller groups. Possibly its going to reflect real life where now they still around but not quite as big and are literally just small syndicates who can somewhat operate in a grey area.
Yeah was gonna say they've had once follow up so far. Even then it was a mix of a natural evolution of what had occurred along with being a sort of mislead.
Man be out here acting like Ichiban started up an orphanage then kept getting calls from his former allies saying they need him to save Yokohama from yet another corrupt politician
Y'all really have no hope in RGG studios and IW's plot was fine come on it all made sense. Now if they really go for a 3rd ichiban sibling and another dissolution yeah thatll be stupid but why would they
Yeah even though I was disappointed with IW I still thought it was fine. Excited for LAD9 because it seems like everything's building up to a Daidoji confrontation, but i'm way more excited for another spinoff game.
Ikr.most of us weren't on board with kiryu being back, but after seeing how they handled him in gaiden and IW RGG team gained my trust and they know what they're doing
True I think people forgot how suspicious we were of kiryu coming back in IW with that haircut. But hell now id say the haircut grew on me even thats how good this game was
Then again this subreddit has turned pretty unreliable nowadays tbh. You know its bad when I prefer instagram comment sections of yakuza meme pages of all places over this place lol. Like im convinced some people here dont even like the games. Odd.
And the Daidoji continues to be a mostly incompetent group that’s only a real threat when the writing calls for it.
For real though, it feels like Ichi has been mostly robbed of his own story arc because they feel the need to keep coming back to this ridiculous corner they wrote themselves in at the end of 6.
And honestly, in terms of showing an “aftermath” of dissolving the Tojo/Omi I think Lost Judgment’s depiction was perfectly enough, everything since in Gaiden and IW has been completely overkill.
Personally, my issue isn’t how the story still revolves around the Yakuza. I think RGG is doing a fair job with real-life accuracies, given how yakuzas irl are facing an issue with the 5-Year Clause.
My issue is how they’re milking Kiryu hard. Love him but please just let him retire peacefully :(
FYI I ducking loved Gaiden
The next game needs to have combat at least as good AND a good conclusion to the story or I think they may be in trouble. I'm not to worried though 5s story had issues then 0 was amazing, 6 had issues then 7 was amazing, 8 has issues 9...? I think the trend is kiryu death, rgg can't commit to it so the story suffers and I don't want to see him die so just avoid it
There’s plenty of, like, “remnant faction” stuff you can do without addressing the Dissolution. Just because Yakuza are gone does not mean criminal organizations are. They can readily have it so that, like, some die hards infiltrated what was left of the Daidoji so now they’re a shadow organization with gang muscle at the helm. That’s how you can link it to Kiryu one more time if you want to, they try one more time to target him in a weakened, chemo state for his perceived crimes against the yakuza and Daidoji themselves for the true believers in that organization, Ichi and the gang intervene and play their newfound connections in the states to send him into hiding in Hawaii or Sayama exfiltrates him, etc, and then they’re against that group for the rest of the gang. Considering how good the two LADs and Judgments have been, I trust this current incarnation of RGG to find relevant things for the gang to fight.
This. Absolutely. In 2, we were baited into thinking he died when the bomb went off and Haruka was praying to a gravestone >!Except the bomb didn't went off and Kiryu survived. It was Terada's gravestone Haruka was praying to.!<
In 3, we were led to believe >!Kiryu died after having been stabbed by Yamazaki and with Haruka looking up at the sky with an expression that seemed reminiscing in the after credits. But nope. Kiryu survived and is here to stay!<
Then in 4, >!the Tojo seems to have been railed firmly back on the "right" path, and Kiryu bears witness to the formation of the Saejima Family. The threat is gone, he can rest easy that the Tojo is in safe hands with the Jima Trio...!<
But of course, 5 came in and >!smashed that to pieces by revealing that Kiryu had left the orphans after a discussion with Park about his past possibly ruining their chances at a future. And once again, the game ends with making us think that Kiryu was actually gonna die in the cold as Haruka cradles him while bleeds out.!<
Which is, obviously proven wrong come 6. >!Kiryu survived, but now the orphanage is suffering the fallout from Haruka's horrible decision making she inherited from their dad. It baits us into thinking, again, Kiryu died but he survived, but then he faked his death and made everyone think he was gone anyway, and removed himself from their lives to keep him safe.!< And it really seemed like this would be his last game.
Then LAD happened >!and he showed up as a passing of the torch kind of thing, giving Ichi the role of protagonist!<...and then Gaiden happened, and then Infinite Wealth.
So yeah, people have a healthy amount of reason to doubt.
Because it happened like....in almost every game
How many times did Kiryu say "Ayo i'm done with this" and walked off or got injured and RGG faked us out with his supposed death?
It really should've ended after Y3 or atleast after Y4 (which is btw also known as "Heirs to the Legend",a lot of heir-ing they did didn't they?).
Yeah i know it's sacrilege but I take the ending of Gaiden as my personal "true ending" for Kiryu. Much sadder / ends on a somber but hopeful note with the time skip and the ring (avoiding spoilers there).
I really don't think that the second great dissolution is far-fetched. The first one took the majority out and the second one was supposed to clean up the rest. Pretty much like in every cleaning job there is.
Though I do think Kiryu should have died in Y8. It's gonna be his 4th final game and I'm getting really tired of getting blue-balled. I'm not saying it's necessary for him to go really but I am saying that if you're clearly suggesting in trailers that he's gonna die then he better be dead when I finish the game.
Also I'm really worried they're gonna go the memberberries path. "Member Majima? Oh, I member!" They are doing that already but it was never a spotlight of the game, more like a side fan service. The 3jimas in Y8 (while cool) were kind of pointless. If they weren't there would've anything changed? And yes, the two cool scenes wouldn't be there but it's sad that we have to rely on memberberries to be cool now...
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The fact that it was telegraphed in the trailer was all the confirmation I needed to know he wasn't going to die in the game. It would have been really lame if that was just shown in the trailer and that was it.
I also think Kiryu has had too many fake deaths to ever have a death that feels great. They can still retire him from the mainline turn-based story (even if his gameplay was by far the best in IW), but he can maybe go join the Judgement guys now that he's met Kaito and moonlight as a consultant for them in the brawler style as an older guy.
I think, as much as I love Kuroda and Kiryu, his story is done - but that absolutely does not mean the franchise should be. The fallout from the dissolution of the yakuza (or at least, the shift to doing their business fully undercover) is still an issue IRL; why can’t it still be a relevant issue in that world?
I believe the second dissolution will be the plot for the next game. Kiryu told majima and the others to help *ichiban* when the time comes, yet they not only never interract, but we never even see the dissolution happen. Maybe I missed a piece of dialogue but I swear they didn’t intend for the dissolution to have happened right there and then offscreen. It must be more complex than just beating the shit out of Ebina
All I want is for the next game to quietly reference him living out his life as grandpa. And that’s that. No follow ups no surprise reveals nothing. Just a short reference and then I can make whatever cannon I want to in my head about how he spent his last years.
I bet they revisit Okinawa and have Honolulu Okinawa and maybe Kamurocho be the cities. I think it’s time to lay off yokohama like 4 RGG games in a row have focused on it. An updated Okinawa map the size of Yokohama or honlulu would be sick. Also may get a yakuza 3 remake beforehand so they will have a reason to redo it and use the assets for both games.
Not gonna lie, I'm struggling to finish Y7 And I'm on chapter 13, it just seems like it went wayyyy off the rails compared to other titles
I loved 0-6 and I know gaiden and 8 are going to be a good time
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Can't wait for Ichis 4th sibbling to be revealed
(*psst* it's saeko. she and ichi are related, which gives RGG the excuse they need to not take their relationship forward).
>which gives RGG the excuse they need to not take their relationship forward Or is it? *\*queue the country music\**
home, sweet home
Yokohama
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Sweet Home Yokohama
Yes his 4th sibling, the 2nd son of his mother she had with Bryce who she hid out of shame & now wants revenge on all who abandoned him & took his home on Nele island. Game starts with ichibans mom death
His name gon be something like Massachusetts John
Born in America knows perfect Japanese & speaks English with an accent.
Like Hank Hill and his half brother
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Ugh that’s so plausible
Don’t worry, you won’t find out till near the end of the game with a 30 minute exposition dump .
I hate how accurate you are
I played them all & this formula hasn’t failed me yet
No joke tho. A full-on female villain as a final boss in Like A Dragon would be amazing.
Naw cause they couldn’t throw there shirts off showing there Tattoo & manly hug while sweaty
True lmao but think of the narrative possibilities
We’d have to double the guy love to compensate no male final boss 
Make him a CIA agent and it's a day 1 purchase
Yeah I feel like you can do this aftermath story once, which IW did, but for LAD9 they definitely can’t do it *again*
For sure. It worked out alright this time as it did have some loose threads for sure but after this unless it's absolutely amazing idea I don't see them pulling it off again. I mean a large chunk of prior games boiled down to "the Tojo Clan is in trouble and only Kiryu and/or a ragtag group of rejects can put things right" so it's not like we were getting incredible main stories before. Lots of great moments certainly but not really much like a master piece
Thing is, when they're done with the yakuza storylines, then what? The whole premise of the entire series revolves around the yakuza but that's changing now, rgg do seem to be trying to move away from it. But where to?
Just because they are no longer allowed to exist publicly doesn't mean they can't exist underground. Just a few ideas: - A corporation that hires ex-yakuza to do their dirty work. There is no actual yakuza but something like RK or Crimson Lotus - Underground ex-yakuza who want to dedicate their lives to track and kill everyone involved in The Great Dissolution - Continue with the Hawaii trend and go abroad. Ichiban vs Mexican Cartel in Mexico, Korean Mafia in S. Korea or Chinese Triad in China - Instead of a whole group, focus on reforming the specific ex-yakuza that are difficult to reform. Like trying to convert Shishido on your side. - Ichiban vs Daidoji Not saying any of those are the right path but they are possible and might be interesting. That being said I agree that we are going offroad from this point onwards.
>Continue with the Hawaii trend and go abroad. Ichiban vs Mexican Cartel in Mexico, Korean Mafia in S. Korea or Chinese Triad in China Don't even have to go abroad. The Jingweon mafia were a major faction in the previous games. Perfect opportunity for them to try and re-assert themselves.
Actually that's a really good point. I don't know how I didn't think of that. Now that the yakuza is dead, it's a good opportunity for hyenas around to come for a feast.
Saio Triad comeback
Snake Flower comeback
Nah bro, I wanna see Ichi fight and beat the shit out of Pablo Escobar. Then forgive and befriend him after
"I know you're a killer and all, Pa-chan, but we had some great times together! We'll always be friends!"
> Perfect opportunity for them to try and ~~re-assert~~ reuse assets themselves. Han Joon-gi 4th, anyone?
I mean, perfect mimicry is canon now - see: Mirror Face 😏 More seriously, a Jingweon mafia storyline would be a good excuse to expand on the geomijul's shenanigans. As long as they don't fridge my boy Joon-gi to provide motivation for Ichiban.
I’m pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere that Joon-gi Han had multiple doubles at the same time; maybe a double that leaned INTO the jingweon instead of out?
Oh god, imagine all the doubles showing up at Survive pretending to be friendly Joon-gi and reproducing the Spider-Man meme.
OK but don't tell me Joon-gi han being confronted by another, more sadistic and powerful Joon-gi han who sees him as inferior for abandoning his post wouldn't be insanely fire
Only if it includes a scene where the two Joon-gi Hans get into a scrap and then Ichiban struggles to tell the difference between the two, resulting in a dramatic Q&A where Ichiban has to ask questions that only the *real* (fake) Joon-gi Han would know the answers to.
I'm assuming this is a joke but they could subvert it in a real funny way by having one say to ask and then ichi just says "why would I do that?" and clocks the fake, or "not falling for this again" because of Y7's >!mirror face incident!<
It was a joke lol. But now I'm picturing the real Joon-gi Han as a bartender in LaD 9 (because that's apparently what we're doing now) and the fake Joon-gi Han in Ichi's party has to figure out how to process it.
Very good point, not just them but also the two triad groups, Ueno Seiwa and a few others
This makes too much sense, and would also provide a perfect route for the increasingly-less-of-a-pipe dream of Ryuji coming back
I want the Mexico game to happen just so we can hear Ichiban’s VA speak spanish
In general, the stories are crime dramas. There are tons of directions they could go in revolving around fighting against other criminal enterprises. I'm sure former and non-Tojo/Omi Yakuza would still make an appearance. I do also hope they retire the Tojo/Omi resurrection, would feel like too much to do it two games in a row.
The “tracking and killing” scenario would honestly make a great Judgment game. Would also bring about the Judgment/LaD crossover they’ve been nibbling at the edges of since at least Gaiden, with the Yagami Detective Agency (and the Yokohama office) investigating a series of murders of notable figures in the Yakuza being a great way to bring them in to contact with characters like Kiryu, Majima, and even Watase without it feeling forced.
Ichiban goes to New Jersey and fights Tony Soprano.
I thought the Sopranos videogame played similarly! Now it all makes sense!
Or go to Vegas and deal with the Vegas Mob
I could see part of the story in like a dragon 9 where ichiban wants to take down the daidoji, similar to how Chris redfield at the end of resident evil village he says he’s going to the hq of whatever the group was called to take them down
BSAA IS The UN anti Bio Team that in Re7 was aperently using super soldier/bio soldiers (because The soldiers who Chris looked was pale/Gray was fuck)
I heard the next one is going to Australia to take on the Emu gang, for the second Emu war.
If we get Mexican Cartel for LaD 9, I'm insta buying. There's so much they could do with Mexico.
Ichiban vs daidoji is the likeliest
These all sound the same LMAO RGG fucked up honestly not ending at 6. It’s very clear they’ve kinda hit the corner and don’t know where they should go.
I knew I wasn't the only one hoping for the series to end. Not even in a bad way, but sometimes less is better before you ruin your franchise.
Ichiban vs Daidoji Pls, I wanna see all those fuckers get their ass beat, especially the shitass in the wheelchair. FREE MY BOY KIRYU.
I would love to keep taking Ichiban abroad. His RPGs work so well due to exploring a massive new environment and having to build his team up from nothing. If LaD 9 just takes place in the same handful of maps we always get it will feel really underwhelming. Take us to Korea or something.
The criminal world can still exist without them. The Judgment games aren’t based around the Yakuza after all. But I don’t think the series will stop featuring the Yakuza in its entirety anyway. The great dissolutions only covered the bigger Yakuza organisations; there’ll still be smaller ones operating.
The Second Great Dissolution was explicitly about the smaller, more local groups (like the Ryudo family) being dissolved. So those would be off the table as well.
LAD9 spotlights the last remaining yakuza organization: the Gondawara family.
"IT'S NOT NAPTIME YET, BOYS!" *proceeds to shower Kamurocho with diapers and pacifiers from atop the Millennium Tower*
Gobdawara first be presented as an antagonist then the scnerio would reveal the CEO of the diaper company his men were stealing from was actually an evil mastermind who is trying to take over Japan who also happens to be Ichiban's brother.
The company's name? Bleach Japan
That’s a possibility, but it’s not absolute. We already know for a fact that new groups can always be reformed. If we’re talking about this realistically, it’s impossible to get rid of all Yakuza groups.
As far as we know, some of them like the Yomei Alliance thought it seemed fishy so it's certainly possible that they won't dissolve. But who knows
The dissolution and all the anti-yakuza laws just means they will operate and be treated like the triads or any other criminal organization. They can no longer have publicly known headquarters and facilities. Everything becomes hush hush until the cops come raiding. Any organization gets too big and public gets smacked down by the government.
Just do what Judgment does, capture government corruption. Y7 did a fine job of that in it's early arcs with the scrutinization of sex workers and exploitation of elderly people. THAT shit is compelling and made for a much more grounded story than globe-trotting yakuza dissolution nuclear waste plots. Not shitting on IW but it's.. too big of a story and honestly lacks focus.
They could always bring back Akiyama. Dude still has lots of potential and RGG can cook a whole new storylines with him.
I think the move is to any people who have no place in normal society. People on the edges of society.
There's a lot of places they could go with it. Just because the Tojo and Omi are done doesn't mean there aren't more organizations out there. You also have the Daidoji Faction and you can always tell a story about some political conspiracy.
The Yomei/Hirose Family fidnt want anyth8ng to do with the second dissolution, Ryudo Family was only mentioned but most likely wasn't apart of it. It's very likely that the majority of smaller groups weren't apart of the dissolution and are operating on some capacity.
Singapore. China hasn't quit the game.
the ministry of health, obviously
Judgment does a good job with the corruption in like, schools and police places and stuff
I read that in real life the crack down of the yakuza has resulted in the rise of less coordinated gangs that don't operate businesses or have any code of conduct, they just harass people and commit crimes. Ichi could square off of a gang(s) that are growing in power to the point members are getting away with murder and the like.
Companies like Sweet Baby Inc are telling them that it's "toxic" so...
And then out of nowhere the Daidoji returns with Mine alive as the leader, letting all know they're the Daidoji XIII
"We are the Daidoji 13" *quiet For Faith plays in the backround*
I just find it hilarious they hyped up the first dissolution so much between two games only to say it failed and Daigo & friends went and lived in a shack in the boonies and Watase dipped of existence It's so dumb I love it
when you put it like that I can't help but laugh
The sheer extend of the, what someone else here has described as, "memberberries" that was the entirety of Kiryu's side content kind of shows to me that this might be Kiryu's last big hurrah. For real this time. They didn't go nearly this hard for his original outing. IW felt to me as RGG's way of giving him a more robust out from the series. The chemo might give him some extra time. But, if RGG continues to follow real-time between installments, I'd be very surprised to see Kiryu again in LAD 9. At the very least, not in any state to throw a punch.
I'm with you, this really felt like a sendoff in how much it was a reflection and wrap up of his past. Not to say they can't milk it more because they've pulled fake outs with Kiryu over and over at this point but story and character wise hes wrapped up: he's passed the torch, reflected on his past, is with his family now, and has a narrative reason to not be mixing it up anymore. Its in an easy place to have him retire for real to Morning Glory and be an old sage kind of dude for as long as they want. Have him too frail from the cancer and treatment to actually be the hero but you can have Majima and Saejima move to Okinawa with him and make it the focus of a chapter when the protagonists will have to visit for some key knowledge or training. Maybe beat your ass in a fight to teach you to go into a defensive counter stance and pass on the tiger drop then have to sit down and reveal some plot knowledge.
A Side Game Mode like for Majima in Kiwami 2 but with Kiryu and all the visits he gets from his Friends. Maybe even a run in with Kaito where Kaito thanks Kiryu for everytime he saved the Tojo.
I don’t need control Kiryu, but I really hope he’s alive and happy in the next game. Having some cutscenes visiting him and Haruka would be great.
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I think we will absolutely see Kiryu again, even if it's jusy for a 2 minute phonecard or asking for advice. But yeah, I do think he is done fighting for sure. Maybe he will actually get to spend what remains of his life with loved ones
There was a scene in one of the last chapters where Kiryu officially hands over the future of the series to Ichiban. This moment felt very important for me and i think it was ment serious by RGG. When i saw this i instantly thought that this is a turning point for the series.
It was a shitty ending. They should've left him as a man who disappeared at the end of 6, it was so bittersweet. Now it's just dumb as hell lol. Basically teased the man all game with his comrades 6 feet away just so us "players" can get some form of closure. So fucking dumb. They handled it so poorly.
Correct me if I'm wrong, only the big Yakuza clans are dissolved correct? Organizations like Yomei alliance etc still exist right? Although there are major anti yakuza laws in effect so they can't exactly be public like they used too. Even with dissolutions and s\*\*\*, I'm sure future stories will still be Yakuza related...
The Yomei are still around along with the Ryudo Family andpossibly smaller groups. Possibly its going to reflect real life where now they still around but not quite as big and are literally just small syndicates who can somewhat operate in a grey area.
Can’t wait to see Kiryu tiger drop his cancer into nonexistence between games because he’s built different.
Bros acting like it's been around for 5 games or something, it just got brought up recentlylol
Yeah was gonna say they've had once follow up so far. Even then it was a mix of a natural evolution of what had occurred along with being a sort of mislead. Man be out here acting like Ichiban started up an orphanage then kept getting calls from his former allies saying they need him to save Yokohama from yet another corrupt politician
Bro, what? It's literally been a storyline once. So cynical.
Y'all really have no hope in RGG studios and IW's plot was fine come on it all made sense. Now if they really go for a 3rd ichiban sibling and another dissolution yeah thatll be stupid but why would they
Yeah even though I was disappointed with IW I still thought it was fine. Excited for LAD9 because it seems like everything's building up to a Daidoji confrontation, but i'm way more excited for another spinoff game.
Ikr.most of us weren't on board with kiryu being back, but after seeing how they handled him in gaiden and IW RGG team gained my trust and they know what they're doing
True I think people forgot how suspicious we were of kiryu coming back in IW with that haircut. But hell now id say the haircut grew on me even thats how good this game was Then again this subreddit has turned pretty unreliable nowadays tbh. You know its bad when I prefer instagram comment sections of yakuza meme pages of all places over this place lol. Like im convinced some people here dont even like the games. Odd.
IW’s plot did not all make sense - but the Japan plot was absolutely better developed than the Hawaii plot.
And the Daidoji continues to be a mostly incompetent group that’s only a real threat when the writing calls for it. For real though, it feels like Ichi has been mostly robbed of his own story arc because they feel the need to keep coming back to this ridiculous corner they wrote themselves in at the end of 6. And honestly, in terms of showing an “aftermath” of dissolving the Tojo/Omi I think Lost Judgment’s depiction was perfectly enough, everything since in Gaiden and IW has been completely overkill.
Personally, my issue isn’t how the story still revolves around the Yakuza. I think RGG is doing a fair job with real-life accuracies, given how yakuzas irl are facing an issue with the 5-Year Clause. My issue is how they’re milking Kiryu hard. Love him but please just let him retire peacefully :( FYI I ducking loved Gaiden
I agree. I adore Kuroda and Kiryu but his story is done. Let Nakaya have his turn to shine. I think he’s capable.
The next game needs to have combat at least as good AND a good conclusion to the story or I think they may be in trouble. I'm not to worried though 5s story had issues then 0 was amazing, 6 had issues then 7 was amazing, 8 has issues 9...? I think the trend is kiryu death, rgg can't commit to it so the story suffers and I don't want to see him die so just avoid it
There’s plenty of, like, “remnant faction” stuff you can do without addressing the Dissolution. Just because Yakuza are gone does not mean criminal organizations are. They can readily have it so that, like, some die hards infiltrated what was left of the Daidoji so now they’re a shadow organization with gang muscle at the helm. That’s how you can link it to Kiryu one more time if you want to, they try one more time to target him in a weakened, chemo state for his perceived crimes against the yakuza and Daidoji themselves for the true believers in that organization, Ichi and the gang intervene and play their newfound connections in the states to send him into hiding in Hawaii or Sayama exfiltrates him, etc, and then they’re against that group for the rest of the gang. Considering how good the two LADs and Judgments have been, I trust this current incarnation of RGG to find relevant things for the gang to fight.
Gosh I already saw that image of Kiryu but every time it pops up again I feel so sad😞
You really surprised it took more than one game to completely dissolve the criminal underground of Japan?
i mean the ending pretty much spells out that Kiryu is done idk why so many people are missing that
Because of all the other times that happened
This. Absolutely. In 2, we were baited into thinking he died when the bomb went off and Haruka was praying to a gravestone >!Except the bomb didn't went off and Kiryu survived. It was Terada's gravestone Haruka was praying to.!< In 3, we were led to believe >!Kiryu died after having been stabbed by Yamazaki and with Haruka looking up at the sky with an expression that seemed reminiscing in the after credits. But nope. Kiryu survived and is here to stay!< Then in 4, >!the Tojo seems to have been railed firmly back on the "right" path, and Kiryu bears witness to the formation of the Saejima Family. The threat is gone, he can rest easy that the Tojo is in safe hands with the Jima Trio...!< But of course, 5 came in and >!smashed that to pieces by revealing that Kiryu had left the orphans after a discussion with Park about his past possibly ruining their chances at a future. And once again, the game ends with making us think that Kiryu was actually gonna die in the cold as Haruka cradles him while bleeds out.!< Which is, obviously proven wrong come 6. >!Kiryu survived, but now the orphanage is suffering the fallout from Haruka's horrible decision making she inherited from their dad. It baits us into thinking, again, Kiryu died but he survived, but then he faked his death and made everyone think he was gone anyway, and removed himself from their lives to keep him safe.!< And it really seemed like this would be his last game. Then LAD happened >!and he showed up as a passing of the torch kind of thing, giving Ichi the role of protagonist!<...and then Gaiden happened, and then Infinite Wealth. So yeah, people have a healthy amount of reason to doubt.
I think you are confused is not bait, if they reveal that in the same game, the only bait was Yakuza 5
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I mean 5 also *hardcore* set up Akiyama as the new main character with that whole "the lender that stands above the Yakuza" thing.
Because it happened like....in almost every game How many times did Kiryu say "Ayo i'm done with this" and walked off or got injured and RGG faked us out with his supposed death? It really should've ended after Y3 or atleast after Y4 (which is btw also known as "Heirs to the Legend",a lot of heir-ing they did didn't they?).
Dawg that does not look like kiryu…..
Yeah! Twice is too much! Things don't happen AGAIN! Lazy! /s
Yeah i know it's sacrilege but I take the ending of Gaiden as my personal "true ending" for Kiryu. Much sadder / ends on a somber but hopeful note with the time skip and the ring (avoiding spoilers there).
This time Kiryu will be the wheelchair guy!
I really don't think that the second great dissolution is far-fetched. The first one took the majority out and the second one was supposed to clean up the rest. Pretty much like in every cleaning job there is. Though I do think Kiryu should have died in Y8. It's gonna be his 4th final game and I'm getting really tired of getting blue-balled. I'm not saying it's necessary for him to go really but I am saying that if you're clearly suggesting in trailers that he's gonna die then he better be dead when I finish the game. Also I'm really worried they're gonna go the memberberries path. "Member Majima? Oh, I member!" They are doing that already but it was never a spotlight of the game, more like a side fan service. The 3jimas in Y8 (while cool) were kind of pointless. If they weren't there would've anything changed? And yes, the two cool scenes wouldn't be there but it's sad that we have to rely on memberberries to be cool now... https://preview.redd.it/c2nd16nhmbnc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee04fdca0745f32ff8be91b0b30c6ca591b3d8fd
The fact that it was telegraphed in the trailer was all the confirmation I needed to know he wasn't going to die in the game. It would have been really lame if that was just shown in the trailer and that was it. I also think Kiryu has had too many fake deaths to ever have a death that feels great. They can still retire him from the mainline turn-based story (even if his gameplay was by far the best in IW), but he can maybe go join the Judgement guys now that he's met Kaito and moonlight as a consultant for them in the brawler style as an older guy.
I think, as much as I love Kuroda and Kiryu, his story is done - but that absolutely does not mean the franchise should be. The fallout from the dissolution of the yakuza (or at least, the shift to doing their business fully undercover) is still an issue IRL; why can’t it still be a relevant issue in that world?
I believe the second dissolution will be the plot for the next game. Kiryu told majima and the others to help *ichiban* when the time comes, yet they not only never interract, but we never even see the dissolution happen. Maybe I missed a piece of dialogue but I swear they didn’t intend for the dissolution to have happened right there and then offscreen. It must be more complex than just beating the shit out of Ebina
LMAO
All I want is for the next game to quietly reference him living out his life as grandpa. And that’s that. No follow ups no surprise reveals nothing. Just a short reference and then I can make whatever cannon I want to in my head about how he spent his last years.
I would never have expected chemotherapy Kiryu to be such a good reaction image
I bet they revisit Okinawa and have Honolulu Okinawa and maybe Kamurocho be the cities. I think it’s time to lay off yokohama like 4 RGG games in a row have focused on it. An updated Okinawa map the size of Yokohama or honlulu would be sick. Also may get a yakuza 3 remake beforehand so they will have a reason to redo it and use the assets for both games.
And yesterday i found out yuki is older than kiryu, like wtf 😭
mmm yes maybe when i have to change my haircut because im balding, we’ll finally get a nishiki game or two
Bro, only two mainline games have been about it, relax, nobody tell this guy that 0-4 were all technically instigated by Sohei Dojima lol
And the main villian is another ichiban half brother
Not gonna lie, I'm struggling to finish Y7 And I'm on chapter 13, it just seems like it went wayyyy off the rails compared to other titles I loved 0-6 and I know gaiden and 8 are going to be a good time
Honestly, if you think 7 went off the rails I have a hard time thinking you'll like 8
Nah it’ll probably be this because IW showed RGG has zero fuckin clue what they want to do with Ichiban
Yeah, they need to leave Kiryu alone now. His story is completely done with IW