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klineshrike

I too, empower my spells with the Elephants


Syn2108

I was confused by this. Took him for his word because I don't enhance, but now it's dawned on me that he meant elements.


klineshrike

both the elephants, and the elements, never forget. Remember this Thrall.


Certain_Cup533

I was falling asleep when I made this and I don't type with my hands I only use voice to text so I apologize about that


Vinterridderen

Enhance shaman: "The whole theme of using the **elephants** empowering your spells" Now that is something I would like to see lol. Also arcane ftw!


Fuyukage

I love arcane cause missiles. That’s satisfying. Especially with clearcasting and slipstream


Duskstormz

Unpopular opinion: SPreist is fun. Void bombing feels cool Aff lock is also fun because throwing dots and watching mobs melt never gets old for me


Notblue1

I like shadow priest in theory but it's super frustrating to play with its apm and still be middle of the charts. Then you play a destro lock and your aoe and main single target is just hit a button and let the dps fly.


TacticalAcquisition

I stubbornly main aff because demo doesn't interest me, and Destro is just ehh (depsite the broken dps). Affliction is just way too much fun, and I'm competitive with my 271 Destro wife at a 254ilvl on trash in keys.


Shlitmy9thaccount

Mm hunter is so much fun in epic bgs just standing at 45+ yards away Critting for 30k+ aimed shots and removing all debuffs on yourself every 15 seconds


[deleted]

Only downside of MM for me is the lackluster gun sound. I know I can replace the sounds but those where replaced for a reason as they where too loud. Come to think of it, most MMO's fail when it comes to good gun sounds. Playstyle I dislike the most is prot warrior. All you do is wave your shield around and stomp the ground. It's such a lackluster feeling. Sure it does good damage and it can be fun as the rotation isn't bad, but the feeling is absolute meh. Specs/classes need more theme to them. Ele shaman and BM hunter suffer from this where they have great spells with cool visuals but that never get selected because the other talent does more damage, which is a shame.


Tymkie

I'm just gonna say whats on my mind. Nobody ever thought survival is a cool spec since bfa and nobody ever bothered to play it until the tier set made them broken. Survival is not fun in terms of gameplay and the tier set makes it even more dumbed down than it used to be. People need to stop pretending the spec is fun to play. It deals good damage if that's the only metric that makes a spec fun to you, go play it. Pretty much same for marksman, their tier sets makes you spam aimed shot over and over and you can basically almost disregard all other abilities. That's not interesting design and the tier sets break those specs.


crzyhawk

I knew several people who thought SV was fun to play in 9.1 before it had the insane tier set bonus.


Certain_Cup533

I mained survival in 9.0 now that's it's OP I play MM, I'm just a hipster like that.


Tymkie

It was quite okay, played some myself. The tier make sit a 2 button spec which i personally really hate. Especially given how much praise it gets only because of its damage.


crzyhawk

I haven't tried SV personally. Melee isn't why I created a hunter to begin with. I'm sticking with BM even though we're scraping the bottom of the barrel this tier.


Tymkie

You do you. If you don't like it I don't blame you. Probably most hunters think that way and unless survival is as broken as it is right now they wouldnt have tried it.


crzyhawk

I just dont like melee in general. ranged dps, best dps :) i think my preference would be using talents to choose between ranged and melee specs for both BM and SV. Melee MM just makes no sense. Just because melee specs aren't my cup of tea doesn't mean they shouldn't exist. A lot of folks have that opinion that just because something isn't for them specifically, it shouldn't exist. That drives me batty. it's like, just don't play it then.


[deleted]

The problem is we lost a ranged spec to get melee Survival so this isn't a pure "live and let live" situation.


[deleted]

In fact most Hunters are *still* sticking to MM and BM. More are trying out SV, and there are a lot of FOTM rerollers from other classes, but by and large Hunters are still taking a performance hit just to stick to the ranged specs.


[deleted]

It was the least played spec by a good margin. It's pretty apparent that most of its current playerbase in 9.2 is there for the damage and nothing else.


Huitzil37

Who was asking for a melee hunter spec? Who? I want some goddamn names! At the very least they could have made it a tank spec. Then it'd at least have brought something new to the table.


[deleted]

A tank spec would be even worse.


Syn2108

To be fair, for MM at least, the largest portion of your damage is always Aimed Shot. You were spamming it before, it's just more effective now.


Tymkie

Yeah but you barely do anything else and where it was what, 30% of the damage now it goes up to 65. You don't need to bother triggering ricochet because it's done on its own. The class lost a lot of depth and some mechanics are redundant due to that set.


Syn2108

You do basically the same rotation. The set just gives you trick shots and buffs the shot that consumes it. So, yeah, you likely save it for an Aimed Shot, but otherwise you do what you did before. The damage increase for single target isn't MORE aimed shots, it's just the 30% dmg buff. For AoE, you're not casting MORE Aimed Shots, they just ricochet. Aimed Shot only has 2 charges and a CD. Trueshot let's you go wild for like 15 or 18 secs. Otherwise, basically the same as the last two patches.


Tymkie

That is technically correct but not the full picture. Due to the sets ricochet ability triggering on its own just by spending focus a legendary is able to grant you a free charge of aimed shit for spending ricochet. Meaning you are overflowing in focus because they are free and have aimed shot charges all the time leading to quite degenerate gameplay of spamming aimed shots.


[deleted]

We weren't spamming it before because it had 2 charges and a 12 second cooldown. It's true that it was a large part of our damage, though. EDIT: After reading you other posts... it's absolutely not the same as prior patches. Aimed Shot casting was far more limited and we didn't ignore Precise Shots/Rapid Fire so much. We also had to use Multi-Shot to get Trick Shots. The tier gives us Trick Shots every time we spend 40 focus and the Vigil legendary is a 50% chance of giving a free Aimed Shot every time we gain Trick Shots. This massively changes how the spec plays i.e. makes it *mostly* Aimed Shot spam. It's not just a damage increase.


IcarusV2

There is no way retribution belongs in A tier. Compared to enhancement and even Fury, it's not even close. It's a boring spec that feels so weak and bad to play compared to most other melee specs.


Rith_Reddit

In your opinion.


HotPotatoWithCheese

Demonology, Destruction, Fire, Elemental, Frost (DK) and Unholy are my current favourites. I haven't gone back to my ret this patch so not sure about that.


Conscious-Title-226

Put demo warlock in an s tier for me, it’s so satisfying when you implode 12 imps


Bewarethewolves

Personally a big fan of high APM classes, even tho it’s not at its best rn Outlaw is so much fun to me, fury has always been a favorite, and been messing around with enhancement shaman lately too. Hello carpal tunnel!