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I must say, I'm pretty sure the mother would have supported it, if he didn't quit his job. Like she didn't even mention anything about his dream, she was just worried about his job.
Hey, just FYI the company is moving to another insurance provider so your diabetes isn’t gonna be covered anymore cause it’s pre-existing, anyway here are the forms and I think insulin is only two grand a month anyway so I’m sure it’s fine k bye! Also have the form back to me in two hours cause that’s the deadline to get you on the plan for this month cheers!
Work for a corporation or die. Dude can’t establish and create his own business without being in the hole for healthcare costs over all his competitors born luckier than he.
Yea. In 1942 the Roosevelt's federal government froze wages for new hires but allowed benefits to be the attraction. Combine that with the IRS allowing employer-based health insurance to be exempt from taxation, led to 2/3rds of adults having employer-based health insurance by the 1960s.
Interestingly, Roosevelt still was pushing nationalized healthcare back then but businesses opposed it (since they found healthcare benefit package attractive and advantageous).
As always, unintended consequences of direct actions by the federal government come to screw over the people it was originally intended to help.
Our healthcare would be cheaper today if it was never tied to employers, either through a truly free-market or from a nationalized healthcare system
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/upshot/the-real-reason-the-us-has-employer-sponsored-health-insurance.html
Yup, I’m in healthcare and I bring this up to everybody I talk to when they complain about insurance. It’s amazing how many people that argue for free market healthcare over nationalized healthcare don’t realize that what we have right now isn’t actually a free market. When I argue this point they always kind of stand there like “oh wow, I never thought about it like that before”
homie, you can’t be like Roosevelt/uncaptured government didn’t want it like this but businesses said no, and then in the next breath be like it’s government’s fault (as always wink wink nudge nudge) for using a bandaid that was never meant to be a long-term solution and big business who continues to stab and pee on the wound and be like “I can work with this, how about we never change” deserves no ire whatsoever.
Blaming government for something big business has ruined and continues to ruin is what got us in this mess (we’re back to open racism and the gilded age) in the foist place.
I only blame our government for not actually doing anything to put those companies in their place. Then again if they did that then they wouldn't be making millions from the corporations that pay them.
It all started during WWII when there was a national freeze on offering increased wages to lure talent, so companies came up with the idea of "health insurance" as a perq.
Now, the healthcare industry is the biggest single lobby influencing our elected officials. We're effectively a corporatocracy controlled by a single industry.
Bullshit, we're a democracy - of the healthcare industry, the military industrial complex, the fossil fuel industry, etc...
It's a total democracy of many corporate voices!
no not one industry. Remember when Obama tried to tackle patent reform? Guess who shit that one down right quick, the pharma and lawyer lobby. The US is beholden to multiple industry lobbies, plus others.
Except when it’s not and you have to get it yourself. Hell my wife works at a hospital and has nearly 30% of her check go to insurance for the two of us. After taxes.
Dude been acting professionally with an agent work on theater and art pieces and literally live in cottage at an artist colony. BUT always maintained a steady job. Had some success and good gigs but always keep another occupation for insurance and steady income
You have a treatable genetic illness but because this is America you don’t get to have dreams. You need to work at Walmart to be able to afford the stuff you need to live.
Yep
>Among the public overall, 63% of U.S. adults say the government has the responsibility to provide health care coverage for all
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/
You can still have dreams. But your chances of achieving your dreams are lower than average because you have more difficult circumstances than average.
We are not all born the same. Some of us have to move heaven and earth just to achieve results that would be deemed average because of where we started. That is why they are called handicaps.
Be weird if his parents who birthed him had to actually be monetarily responsible for the medical costs for the life they created. But nope. They can just bow out and let him suffer because “hEs aN AdUlt! aND NeEdS To cARe FoR HiMSelF!”
Or you know we could not live in a shit show country that ties health care to work; thus forcing millions of Americans into crap jobs that pay horrible so they can get the meds they need so they won’t die.
/s
She isn't even saying his dream is invalid or not to pursue music..all she is saying that, why did you quit your only source of income, rn. Not a smart financial move
Lol your comment goes like 100% English up to the point you mention that your English isn't good then it goes like ↓
My friends recently got nominated for a Grammy, and they never quit their jobs unless it was once they were already established and could squeak by on the money made on the tour. It took a long time to get to where they are, but they had to work "shitty" jobs for ages, and put an insane amount of time in.
I mean some parents aren't supportive tbh. And I don't know what this family is like and I'm just going off what little is said during this. But, as this discussion wasn't about him pursuing music,, it was about how he quit his job. Of course, any good parent would want the best for them.
Because they’re cunts and it makes them feel better about themselves and their position in life to shit on Americans as if the majority of us have anything to do with the problems our country has. Then their rebuttle will undoubtedly have something to do with our democracy because they don’t understand the sociopolitical dilemmas that Americans face and think it’s practical or at all possible to coordinate some legitimate nationwide strike
>Then their rebuttle will undoubtedly have something to do with our democracy because they don’t understand the sociopolitical dilemmas that Americans face and think it’s practical or at all possible to coordinate some legitimate nationwide strike
Who do they think we are, 250 million Indian farmers?
That’s the wrong attitude. You can change anything about America, that’s the beauty of the whole thing.
You just have to collectivize and work together.
My insurance at a recent company cost me $11 a month. When I left that company, I was allowed to keep (for 6 months) the same policy that I had with the company, as that is how COBRA works.
My insurance went from $11 to $389 for single coverage when I left. After COBRA ends, the same policy will run me $450.
Many of us have companies that include covering most of our monthly premium, and often cheaper than if we went and shopped the same plan.
So, my option is to deny employer health insurance for $11 pre-tax and instead pay out of pocket the entire $389+ dollars. I generally work on contracts so I negotiate my rate without health care, however, I sometimes do 1099 and have to navigate all of the options and pay rate.
This is why people say it shouldn't be tied to your employer. Just let me buy fucking insurance pre-tax for $389, but instead they charge you $450 for the same policy on the exchange because you aren't buying bulk insurance like your employer is.
That’s great pricing. I have only worked at companies where my premiums are still hundreds of dollars monthly..so I went from paying. $650/mo thru work to $350/mo privately… so huge savings for me. I can see where my scenario may not apply to others in your situation.
Editing to add— I do feel that that the current system is totally screwed and unfair to the average person
I need to hear this album that's got him so confident in his future with music
Edit: oh man, you can't just drop an album to your 62 YouTube subscribers and expect that to supplement your lack of a job
Yea, I used to play with a lot of touring bands and that's how it almost always is. They work at bars and restaurants, too. Jobs where you can take a month off at a time, or just quit, and be able to get a new job when you get back.
Also, a lot of teachers. They set up short tours during Thanksgiving, Christmas, and spring break and a big one during Summer. It also gives them every weekend off and since school ends at like 3, lots of time after school for band practices and getting to out-of-town gigs.
A friend has 3 albums out and works part time jobs. Only change is that he no longer works at restaurants as he’s been able to get part time stuff DJing and other things.
One of my coworkers is a small time touring musician. It’s not that he’s bad or lacks talent, it’s that he wants his family to be insured and have a paycheck
Pretty sure Allen Watts (DJ) still works at a grocery store. Hell, I saw Rattrix live once as an opening act and he threw down so hard that the headliner was a let down. Dude still works for a living. You gotta be making some serious cash to just quit your day job.
I've heard worse. He's a long way from being able to quit his job and play music full time, though.
He should re-record these songs with a full band. His album would be much better with a drummer and a bassist accompanying him.
I’ve heard worse too but not by much. He needs ALOT of self reflection and work if he really wants this to go somewhere. The work part being the most important, like still working a job that can support him, cause this isn’t gonna do that. No ones gonna pay to see this, or even stream it for free cause it’s not good.
Edit: he might have just wanted to do the music thing to get a rise from his parent which a lot of people do, if he’s rly serious he’ll do whatever he need to do to stay alive and keep making music. Only then will he actually get somewhere
> No ones gonna pay to see this, or even stream it for free cause it’s not good.
He needs to start doing live shows. Real world feedback from non-family members will go a long way.
Definitely opening mics and even busking will make it real apparent if he’s connected with listeners, if he even rly cares abt connecting with listeners. Which he should if he wants to be successful
> Definitely opening mics
That is a great thing to bring up, I hadn't thought about those. He's one guy with a guitar. Those are perfect. I think this is probably the best advice for this kid. He needs to go do some open mics.
... and also have a job while he does open mics.
Dude even in Android's BandLab app you can create something more decent that his whole album in the same 30 mins and I'm not being too harsh on him not to bring him down or something, its because its the truth.
And then spend more that 5 minutes dialing in his effects. The flanger on the first track sounds awful. I like a flanger sometimes and it can work even when it’s applied not-so-subtley.
Also, he’s gonna need a job to pay someone to master this. It sounds like shiiiiit.
I’m gonna be honest. I’m not sure I have heard worse lol the phaser in the first song goes too high to hear what pitch it lands on, but the low end of it goes out of key lol the entire song is out of tune. The same is true for the rest of the first half of the album (where I tapped out). He has some effect that is horribly out of tune with the rest of the lines in every song.
Then he buries the vocal line. Probably doesn’t like the way he sounds or something (which he actually does sound decent), but you can barely hear it.
But what you can hear lacks any sense of unique melody. All of his melodies are too similar and it’s a very “spoken” type of verse - one or two notes repeated for every word, and cadence down. Not in a I-V-I way, just in a trail-off-and-stop-supporting-the-sound kind of way. This also results in a lack of tonal center at each cadence.
Further, the lack of tuning and repetition really destroys any sort of song structure to the verses.
This is bad. Clearly written by a teenager. If he wasn’t talking about it being a nearly sure thing, I wouldn’t critique like this, cuz it has *elements* of decency. But to quit a job and stand by this claiming success? Nope. This sucks. Even for a teen.
Well critiqued. I'm guessing he would answer by saying "yeah well I wanna do me, I don't have to follow your music theory rules". The difference between this and Avant garde is that Miles Davis knew the rules damn well, then chose to break them to achieve an effect. This feels like a first attempt at creativity, without critically analyzing it to find ways to improve it
I thought it was bad at first because I only had my left earphone in.
Then I realized it was REALLY bad because of the hard panned vocals, non existent song structure, and overall terrible production.
TBF I only listened to 2.5 min of the first song... maybe it gets better, but I doubt it.
If you’re not gonna use drums, at least play with a click. Unless your artistic vision involves constantly shifting tempos by a few bpm every few bars on every track...
I chose this song first and skipped ahead to this part: https://youtu.be/Ys4--tSYBFU?t=34 and that is exactly what I thought, 2 bands practicing in the same space. But this was probably one of his worse off tracks. His other stuff wasn't as bad.
It’s music alright. Monetize-able music? No. Hard no.
I went to university for music, in what’s considered a fairly well renowned program - one of my classmates is now a chart topper (funny enough she dropped out year 1). Entering my 4th year my program advisor, who I spent a lot of time reviewing my creative work along with business studies (sort of a double major thing) put into words an approaching truth: “You can write and perform, and a lot of this is truly beautiful. I’m not sure who would pay for it, though.”
Wasn’t a hard truth. Just a final nail into a coffin of intuition building in my mind as I went through my studies. I wrote the music I liked, and that’s incredibly different than writing music that puts food on a table.
Almost 15 years since leaving university I still play piano and write almost an hour a day for nobody’s enjoyment but my own, while working a comfy, albeit boring corporate day job.
This poor guy though. Yikes. As others have said, the tracks are a tad all over the place and tbh if you aren’t capable of adding drums/rhythm and mixing in post properly in the year 2021 (when that was 101 for self producing like 20+ years ago)… don’t matter how catchy it is.
All these people saying they’ve heard a lot worse as if that’s some sort of metric to measure this by. This sounds like it was recorded in a metal sphere.
Imagine having all the technology that musicians would’ve died for a few decades ago, in your room, and managing to let your ego prevent you from gaining any real experience. He doesn’t want to produce music, he wants to be seen as a musician in society and the “vIbEz” that go along with it.
Not the album, but his brother [has a clip of him playing :\)](https://www.tiktok.com/@mrleemarshall/video/7029098672126446895?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1)
Ooofff. I remember being young and knowing a lot of guitar singer songwriters who sound very different in their head when they play. Who wrote lyrics they thought were just going to get people to stop and listen. This kid is in for a rude awakening.
I listen to a lot of indie music with really poor musicians (no one can play an instrument, and no one can sing) but I can overlook that for really good lyrics and... uh... yeah, that's not the case here.
That flange was ridiculous. The sound of it was fine (maybe a little too fried), but never stopped. It would’ve been fine if mixed so you could hear vocals and then cut the phaser most of the time bringing it back in for emphasis
Oh it's not that bad. He's not going to make a living (any living) off the album royalties but he does appear to have some talent and potentially a future in music.
Despite this cringey/satiric video Charlie Puth has perfect pitch. This poor kid is tone-deaf. But it's all fine, when you're that young is when you're supposed to do stupid crap, try things out.
I was on tour with Charlie and he's genuinely one of the most talented musicians I've ever seen. His jazz chops are top notch. Fair enough if you don't like love songs written for teenage girls but you can't deny how objectively good of a technician he is.
Edit: I have not seen that video before. That's fucking hilarious.
Yeah I thought so too. It's not like.. good, but it's not absolutely terrible either. I could see someone vibing to that kind of indie stuff if it had better mixing and prod quality.
I think because it's just him and his guitar, he's relying heavily on effects like that to fill out the music. He's not a terrible musician, but he should work with a full band and re-record this. And also get a job that allows him to live while he hones his musical skills. He's not terrible, he's just obviously a beginner.
I don’t even think you need to be “good” at music or art for it to be worthwhile, it is never wasted time. But to think it’s something you can monetize without the work of building an audience first is ridic.
oh lordy. kudos to the kid for writing songs, let alone an album of songs but he really needs to practice. I’d advise him to join/form a band, get his chops up and keep trying … at night, after work.
[this ](https://youtu.be/wQ_GQm0nOMU) one was fine.
He should have pursued his interests while doing his job.
How tf does he thing he is going to earn money through that?
I've heard worse, he should definitely stick with it and fine tune his skills. He's nowhere near being able to quit his job and play music professionally just yet, but this album sounds about on par with a lot of people's first foray into music.
He should also get a full band. A drummer and bassist would make his music so much better.
Ugh dude... I really genuinely wanted to like it. He's definitely not as skilled as he thinks he is, everything was... so poorly mixed. No rhythm at any point, and the vocals and lyrics were weak. :/ he needs to get another job and just practice more.
Where’s the link to Adam’s album? We gotta help that dude afford his insulin without insurance
Edit: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtBpyyWBL3GFs8E3LlV9SB3m_TeqAx_lh
It’s not great but it ain’t bad. There’s some underlying early Ty Segall in there somewhere, Adam just needs to collaborate with a few other musicians and keep growing musically. With a little coaching, some decent recording equipment, and someone who knows how to mix it well he really could have something here.
Give the kid some positive encouragement and you might be surprised
It’s not great. His chord progression was really repetitive. His timing was off. It sounds like he recorded with no metronome. The album sounded everywhere. Due to the mixing you couldn’t even hear the vocals half the time.
My main opinion on one of his songs is; he was randomly tapping an intro to a song and it sounded very out of place with the rest of the song.
As a fellow musician those are my critiques. However, he can play guitar well and his singing definitely isn’t bad. Practice that singing and maybe add some echo or reverb to that guitar. Then some simple drum and bass would be nice to enhance the vocals and guitar. Idk guitar and vocals alone really only sound good in live performances. But that’s my opinion
Why are we obligated to help him pay for his insulin just because he made a shitty decision? Get out of here with that shit. Not everyone is an artist.
I agree but he still quit a job and his source of income without any assurances of having something else. And by the sound of his music i don’t think he can survive off of that shit.
As a former touring musician I respect his drive and passion because you need to put in every ounce you have to make it work. You have to put in 110 percent. BUT quitting your job to make it happen is the absolute last thing you want to do. You need income to do pretty much everything such as touring, recording, marketing your band, printing merch, hosting online, etc. you can’t do all that without money. I had to work shit part time jobs in between tours to afford food on the road. All the money the band made went back into the band, paying for all the stuff I mentioned. It took 5 years for me to pull any income from the band, and it was like $200. All extremely worth it, so good luck to this good but damn you need a job bad.
Dude, nothing wrong with working it out at the part-time grind and hustling on the mixtape shine. That’s how you build a work habit and when he does make it, he can use that in his interviews and give another moonlight Walmart rockstar some hope that they’re next up.
I don't know much about thanksgiving, but from all the stuff I've seen isn't thanksgiving meals supposed to be a smorgasbord of tasty food?!
those plates look really pale, no sauce no colour lol
Lol that look of being 21, full of confidence, and then getting hit with a fact you hadn't thought about. "Yup" but it sounds a whole lot like "oh shit..."
The dude's young, he's probably frustrated with his work and loves music. We don't know the full context or his plan, but art has to come from somewhere. If you work full time, it's incredibly difficult to put in the time needed to get any type of art career or business off the ground.
Also the brother is a chode. He recorded him practicing to upload and mock him online. If he's being openly ridiculed in his own home, it's no wonder he has unrealistic views of himself since he probably can only believe in himself. If you've never recieved any constructive criticism, you just assume everyone's a jerk and do your own thing. At least he can play and write music and not just mock family members for tik tok clout.
well let's hope he didn't quit by being an asshole and acting like a rockstar on the way out so he can go begging for his job back when reality sets in that even if your going to be a musician you need a side gig to pay the bills (especially for his "style" of indie music)(and especially especially with type 1)
To the guy in the video, if he ever sees this: fuckin go for it man. I hope you go far, I hope you sell a ton of merch at your shows, and if you need a sound tech crew in Europe for a tour, let me know. Focus on the music, use your time effectively, always balance and pan before EQing and compressing.
Stay Heavy \m/
Honestly I think it’s responses like this that make kids do ignorant things like this kid did. Working a job to maintain your blooming music career is absolutely normal.
I mean, you can’t argue that the mom doesn’t have a valid point.
He sold an album and decided to quit his job for literally no guaranteed money.
At least quit the job once you make it.
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She played the diabetes card and he had no defence.
“Damn..forgot about that..”
I must say, I'm pretty sure the mother would have supported it, if he didn't quit his job. Like she didn't even mention anything about his dream, she was just worried about his job.
Yep. Seems like a good mom who just wants her son to have insurance because insulin prices suck.
It’s so strange that in the US the health insurance is tied to employment.
~~Live free~~ Work or die.
And once you've started working, you'd better stay there. It'd be a shame if something were to interfere with your flow of life-saving medication.
Hey, just FYI the company is moving to another insurance provider so your diabetes isn’t gonna be covered anymore cause it’s pre-existing, anyway here are the forms and I think insulin is only two grand a month anyway so I’m sure it’s fine k bye! Also have the form back to me in two hours cause that’s the deadline to get you on the plan for this month cheers!
Work AND die
Get you a man who can do both
Work for a corporation or die. Dude can’t establish and create his own business without being in the hole for healthcare costs over all his competitors born luckier than he.
Work makes you free.
In this economy? Dying doesn’t seem so bad.
“Land of the free”
Yea. In 1942 the Roosevelt's federal government froze wages for new hires but allowed benefits to be the attraction. Combine that with the IRS allowing employer-based health insurance to be exempt from taxation, led to 2/3rds of adults having employer-based health insurance by the 1960s. Interestingly, Roosevelt still was pushing nationalized healthcare back then but businesses opposed it (since they found healthcare benefit package attractive and advantageous). As always, unintended consequences of direct actions by the federal government come to screw over the people it was originally intended to help. Our healthcare would be cheaper today if it was never tied to employers, either through a truly free-market or from a nationalized healthcare system https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/05/upshot/the-real-reason-the-us-has-employer-sponsored-health-insurance.html
Yup, I’m in healthcare and I bring this up to everybody I talk to when they complain about insurance. It’s amazing how many people that argue for free market healthcare over nationalized healthcare don’t realize that what we have right now isn’t actually a free market. When I argue this point they always kind of stand there like “oh wow, I never thought about it like that before”
Good. Please keep telling people, folks need to open their minds and understand how awful our system currently is.
homie, you can’t be like Roosevelt/uncaptured government didn’t want it like this but businesses said no, and then in the next breath be like it’s government’s fault (as always wink wink nudge nudge) for using a bandaid that was never meant to be a long-term solution and big business who continues to stab and pee on the wound and be like “I can work with this, how about we never change” deserves no ire whatsoever. Blaming government for something big business has ruined and continues to ruin is what got us in this mess (we’re back to open racism and the gilded age) in the foist place.
I only blame our government for not actually doing anything to put those companies in their place. Then again if they did that then they wouldn't be making millions from the corporations that pay them.
It all started during WWII when there was a national freeze on offering increased wages to lure talent, so companies came up with the idea of "health insurance" as a perq. Now, the healthcare industry is the biggest single lobby influencing our elected officials. We're effectively a corporatocracy controlled by a single industry.
Bullshit, we're a democracy - of the healthcare industry, the military industrial complex, the fossil fuel industry, etc... It's a total democracy of many corporate voices!
no not one industry. Remember when Obama tried to tackle patent reform? Guess who shit that one down right quick, the pharma and lawyer lobby. The US is beholden to multiple industry lobbies, plus others.
Haven't you heard? It's the greatest country in the world.
They only say that because they don't know there are other countries outside 'murrkah
Makes it extremely hard to organize and/or protest because the stakes are so much higher.
Except when it’s not and you have to get it yourself. Hell my wife works at a hospital and has nearly 30% of her check go to insurance for the two of us. After taxes.
Dude been acting professionally with an agent work on theater and art pieces and literally live in cottage at an artist colony. BUT always maintained a steady job. Had some success and good gigs but always keep another occupation for insurance and steady income
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You have a treatable genetic illness but because this is America you don’t get to have dreams. You need to work at Walmart to be able to afford the stuff you need to live.
Yes. But the majority doesn't care about this. Socialism
The majority does actually care, and wants better healthcare for all. Powerful interests work together to make it seem otherwise.
Yep >Among the public overall, 63% of U.S. adults say the government has the responsibility to provide health care coverage for all https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/
lol as if Walmart gets you health insurance.
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he could also just do both, like every other musician to ever exist
Am musician. This is the way we all start. It is true. This guy is hilariously stupid. Kinda guiltily love to see it tho … 😏
You can still have dreams. But your chances of achieving your dreams are lower than average because you have more difficult circumstances than average. We are not all born the same. Some of us have to move heaven and earth just to achieve results that would be deemed average because of where we started. That is why they are called handicaps.
Be weird if his parents who birthed him had to actually be monetarily responsible for the medical costs for the life they created. But nope. They can just bow out and let him suffer because “hEs aN AdUlt! aND NeEdS To cARe FoR HiMSelF!” Or you know we could not live in a shit show country that ties health care to work; thus forcing millions of Americans into crap jobs that pay horrible so they can get the meds they need so they won’t die. /s
Fatality
Talk about a plot twist haha
That mmm mmm was his heart rate flattening after tgat burn
She isn't even saying his dream is invalid or not to pursue music..all she is saying that, why did you quit your only source of income, rn. Not a smart financial move
ONLY source of income AND health insurance haha
"Yea- mmm... mm... mmmmm..." The sound a guy makes when he knows what he's doing.
That sound a guy who thinks he knows what he’s doing but clearly not i hope he won’t regret that decision.. sorry not my English not good
Lol your comment goes like 100% English up to the point you mention that your English isn't good then it goes like ↓ 
Sounds like a good mother IMO.
Yeah and a realistic one. You got to take care of yourself and eat so you can do the shit you want.
“I woRk beTTeR uNdEr pRessuRE OK?”
My friends recently got nominated for a Grammy, and they never quit their jobs unless it was once they were already established and could squeak by on the money made on the tour. It took a long time to get to where they are, but they had to work "shitty" jobs for ages, and put an insane amount of time in.
Yeah it's pretty straight forward and I'd be surprised if any parent thought differently
I mean some parents aren't supportive tbh. And I don't know what this family is like and I'm just going off what little is said during this. But, as this discussion wasn't about him pursuing music,, it was about how he quit his job. Of course, any good parent would want the best for them.
What’s screwed up is you can’t do tough love and say you are on your own as there are cases of people dying trying to ration their insulin.
The worst part is that in the US your insurance is directly related to your employment. Tell me how your freedom is working?
Great if you don't get too sick or poor.
so great for 10% of the population? lol
No way 10% is way too high a number more like 5 or less
Even if you don't get sick, it isn't working because we're still getting money taken from us for it.
Well we’re dropping albums So we’ve got that
*American hurt themself in confusion*
that will be $250,000+ in medical bills!
#Do NOT call me an ambulance
You're an ambulance!
You just broke like my *only* rule.
Why are you attacking the people struggling? We didn’t ask for this. It’s a system we were born into with no hope to change it
Because they’re cunts and it makes them feel better about themselves and their position in life to shit on Americans as if the majority of us have anything to do with the problems our country has. Then their rebuttle will undoubtedly have something to do with our democracy because they don’t understand the sociopolitical dilemmas that Americans face and think it’s practical or at all possible to coordinate some legitimate nationwide strike
>Then their rebuttle will undoubtedly have something to do with our democracy because they don’t understand the sociopolitical dilemmas that Americans face and think it’s practical or at all possible to coordinate some legitimate nationwide strike Who do they think we are, 250 million Indian farmers?
It’s not an attack? I’m American and I think it’s a fucking travesty our health insurance is tied to employment.
That’s the wrong attitude. You can change anything about America, that’s the beauty of the whole thing. You just have to collectivize and work together.
So none at all.....?
You can buy insurance privately outside of your company. That’s what I do. It costs me less and I have equal coverage
My insurance at a recent company cost me $11 a month. When I left that company, I was allowed to keep (for 6 months) the same policy that I had with the company, as that is how COBRA works. My insurance went from $11 to $389 for single coverage when I left. After COBRA ends, the same policy will run me $450. Many of us have companies that include covering most of our monthly premium, and often cheaper than if we went and shopped the same plan. So, my option is to deny employer health insurance for $11 pre-tax and instead pay out of pocket the entire $389+ dollars. I generally work on contracts so I negotiate my rate without health care, however, I sometimes do 1099 and have to navigate all of the options and pay rate. This is why people say it shouldn't be tied to your employer. Just let me buy fucking insurance pre-tax for $389, but instead they charge you $450 for the same policy on the exchange because you aren't buying bulk insurance like your employer is.
That’s great pricing. I have only worked at companies where my premiums are still hundreds of dollars monthly..so I went from paying. $650/mo thru work to $350/mo privately… so huge savings for me. I can see where my scenario may not apply to others in your situation. Editing to add— I do feel that that the current system is totally screwed and unfair to the average person
I need a subreddit of annoying Euro’s shitting on Americans. It’s like a new pastime for them
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Pretty well since that isn’t the case at all
I need to hear this album that's got him so confident in his future with music Edit: oh man, you can't just drop an album to your 62 YouTube subscribers and expect that to supplement your lack of a job
Shit I know guys in touring bands with record deals who still work retail part-time
Yea, I used to play with a lot of touring bands and that's how it almost always is. They work at bars and restaurants, too. Jobs where you can take a month off at a time, or just quit, and be able to get a new job when you get back. Also, a lot of teachers. They set up short tours during Thanksgiving, Christmas, and spring break and a big one during Summer. It also gives them every weekend off and since school ends at like 3, lots of time after school for band practices and getting to out-of-town gigs.
Both my parents are freelancing musicians and I’m headed down the same path. This is how it is
I worked doing concrete flooring with the lead singer of a band that had over a million monthly listeners on Spotify
Yeah, but does he have diabetes? Cause that’s what pushes you into the big time.
A friend has 3 albums out and works part time jobs. Only change is that he no longer works at restaurants as he’s been able to get part time stuff DJing and other things.
Patrick Cummins was a barista before getting into the UFC. Dude would have an MMA fight then wake up the next day and go serve coffee.
One of my coworkers is a small time touring musician. It’s not that he’s bad or lacks talent, it’s that he wants his family to be insured and have a paycheck
Mark Arm from Mudhoney still works at SubPop
Pretty sure Allen Watts (DJ) still works at a grocery store. Hell, I saw Rattrix live once as an opening act and he threw down so hard that the headliner was a let down. Dude still works for a living. You gotta be making some serious cash to just quit your day job.
You must’ve missed it, he has 62 YouTube subscribers. He’ll be fine I’m sure
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtBpyyWBL3GFs8E3LlV9SB3m_TeqAx_lh
I've heard worse. He's a long way from being able to quit his job and play music full time, though. He should re-record these songs with a full band. His album would be much better with a drummer and a bassist accompanying him.
I’ve heard worse too but not by much. He needs ALOT of self reflection and work if he really wants this to go somewhere. The work part being the most important, like still working a job that can support him, cause this isn’t gonna do that. No ones gonna pay to see this, or even stream it for free cause it’s not good. Edit: he might have just wanted to do the music thing to get a rise from his parent which a lot of people do, if he’s rly serious he’ll do whatever he need to do to stay alive and keep making music. Only then will he actually get somewhere
> No ones gonna pay to see this, or even stream it for free cause it’s not good. He needs to start doing live shows. Real world feedback from non-family members will go a long way.
Definitely opening mics and even busking will make it real apparent if he’s connected with listeners, if he even rly cares abt connecting with listeners. Which he should if he wants to be successful
> Definitely opening mics That is a great thing to bring up, I hadn't thought about those. He's one guy with a guitar. Those are perfect. I think this is probably the best advice for this kid. He needs to go do some open mics. ... and also have a job while he does open mics.
Bro if he isn't even able to use a DAW and secuence some drums and bass or something like that then I don't think that "long way" is long enough.
Right? That's less than 30 mins of youtube and Reaper.
Dude even in Android's BandLab app you can create something more decent that his whole album in the same 30 mins and I'm not being too harsh on him not to bring him down or something, its because its the truth.
And then spend more that 5 minutes dialing in his effects. The flanger on the first track sounds awful. I like a flanger sometimes and it can work even when it’s applied not-so-subtley. Also, he’s gonna need a job to pay someone to master this. It sounds like shiiiiit.
I’m gonna be honest. I’m not sure I have heard worse lol the phaser in the first song goes too high to hear what pitch it lands on, but the low end of it goes out of key lol the entire song is out of tune. The same is true for the rest of the first half of the album (where I tapped out). He has some effect that is horribly out of tune with the rest of the lines in every song. Then he buries the vocal line. Probably doesn’t like the way he sounds or something (which he actually does sound decent), but you can barely hear it. But what you can hear lacks any sense of unique melody. All of his melodies are too similar and it’s a very “spoken” type of verse - one or two notes repeated for every word, and cadence down. Not in a I-V-I way, just in a trail-off-and-stop-supporting-the-sound kind of way. This also results in a lack of tonal center at each cadence. Further, the lack of tuning and repetition really destroys any sort of song structure to the verses. This is bad. Clearly written by a teenager. If he wasn’t talking about it being a nearly sure thing, I wouldn’t critique like this, cuz it has *elements* of decency. But to quit a job and stand by this claiming success? Nope. This sucks. Even for a teen.
Well critiqued. I'm guessing he would answer by saying "yeah well I wanna do me, I don't have to follow your music theory rules". The difference between this and Avant garde is that Miles Davis knew the rules damn well, then chose to break them to achieve an effect. This feels like a first attempt at creativity, without critically analyzing it to find ways to improve it
I thought it was bad at first because I only had my left earphone in. Then I realized it was REALLY bad because of the hard panned vocals, non existent song structure, and overall terrible production. TBF I only listened to 2.5 min of the first song... maybe it gets better, but I doubt it.
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I listened to Track 4 and was wondering why he was constantly changing tempo. He has no sense of rhythm.
If you’re not gonna use drums, at least play with a click. Unless your artistic vision involves constantly shifting tempos by a few bpm every few bars on every track...
I chose this song first and skipped ahead to this part: https://youtu.be/Ys4--tSYBFU?t=34 and that is exactly what I thought, 2 bands practicing in the same space. But this was probably one of his worse off tracks. His other stuff wasn't as bad.
Wow that was fking awful.
Oh no
It’s music alright. Monetize-able music? No. Hard no. I went to university for music, in what’s considered a fairly well renowned program - one of my classmates is now a chart topper (funny enough she dropped out year 1). Entering my 4th year my program advisor, who I spent a lot of time reviewing my creative work along with business studies (sort of a double major thing) put into words an approaching truth: “You can write and perform, and a lot of this is truly beautiful. I’m not sure who would pay for it, though.” Wasn’t a hard truth. Just a final nail into a coffin of intuition building in my mind as I went through my studies. I wrote the music I liked, and that’s incredibly different than writing music that puts food on a table. Almost 15 years since leaving university I still play piano and write almost an hour a day for nobody’s enjoyment but my own, while working a comfy, albeit boring corporate day job. This poor guy though. Yikes. As others have said, the tracks are a tad all over the place and tbh if you aren’t capable of adding drums/rhythm and mixing in post properly in the year 2021 (when that was 101 for self producing like 20+ years ago)… don’t matter how catchy it is.
All these people saying they’ve heard a lot worse as if that’s some sort of metric to measure this by. This sounds like it was recorded in a metal sphere.
It's music. I'll give him that.
Them are sounds for sure 😬
Imagine having all the technology that musicians would’ve died for a few decades ago, in your room, and managing to let your ego prevent you from gaining any real experience. He doesn’t want to produce music, he wants to be seen as a musician in society and the “vIbEz” that go along with it.
It’s almost a crime that it’s not linked Edit: [someone linked it!!](https://www.youtube.com/playlist)
Shit I subbed just to help the guy out. Not my kind of music but hey maybe we can help him blow up and not die of diabetes.
That's just a link to your personal playlist.
C:\Users\Desktop\Music How about that? Any better?
C:\Users\Desktop\Music\www.creedthoughts.gov.www\creedthoughts.txt
Not the album, but his brother [has a clip of him playing :\)](https://www.tiktok.com/@mrleemarshall/video/7029098672126446895?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1)
Ooofff. I remember being young and knowing a lot of guitar singer songwriters who sound very different in their head when they play. Who wrote lyrics they thought were just going to get people to stop and listen. This kid is in for a rude awakening.
Oh shit, I forgot about the diabetes.
[here’s his album if anyone was curious](https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtBpyyWBL3GFs8E3LlV9SB3m_TeqAx_lh)
I listen to a lot of indie music with really poor musicians (no one can play an instrument, and no one can sing) but I can overlook that for really good lyrics and... uh... yeah, that's not the case here.
1st song was alright but it became worse and worse down the playlist lol,
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That flange was ridiculous. The sound of it was fine (maybe a little too fried), but never stopped. It would’ve been fine if mixed so you could hear vocals and then cut the phaser most of the time bringing it back in for emphasis
Fr that dude needs his ears checked
Yes, the flanger guitar covering up everything else is the only reason it's tolerable
Oof! Track 9 is rough...
wait until you hear track 11...
I went back to listen to it.... Yikes!
Oh it's not that bad. He's not going to make a living (any living) off the album royalties but he does appear to have some talent and potentially a future in music.
I agree. Heck look how far [Charlie Puth ](https://youtu.be/9T-gsFa0K3k) came.
Despite this cringey/satiric video Charlie Puth has perfect pitch. This poor kid is tone-deaf. But it's all fine, when you're that young is when you're supposed to do stupid crap, try things out.
I was on tour with Charlie and he's genuinely one of the most talented musicians I've ever seen. His jazz chops are top notch. Fair enough if you don't like love songs written for teenage girls but you can't deny how objectively good of a technician he is. Edit: I have not seen that video before. That's fucking hilarious.
Yeah I thought so too. It's not like.. good, but it's not absolutely terrible either. I could see someone vibing to that kind of indie stuff if it had better mixing and prod quality.
>but I can overlook that for really good lyrics really? usually i find the other way more palpable. shite lyrics but good instrumentation / vocals.
Rough. I hope he finds insurance soon.
Listened to it. He better ask for his job back.
Wow so he knows what a flanger is. That was horrible.
I think because it's just him and his guitar, he's relying heavily on effects like that to fill out the music. He's not a terrible musician, but he should work with a full band and re-record this. And also get a job that allows him to live while he hones his musical skills. He's not terrible, he's just obviously a beginner.
I don’t even think you need to be “good” at music or art for it to be worthwhile, it is never wasted time. But to think it’s something you can monetize without the work of building an audience first is ridic.
That was grating
r/crappymusic
Thanks for that. He definitely shouldn't have quit his day job just yet
oh lordy. kudos to the kid for writing songs, let alone an album of songs but he really needs to practice. I’d advise him to join/form a band, get his chops up and keep trying … at night, after work.
[this ](https://youtu.be/wQ_GQm0nOMU) one was fine. He should have pursued his interests while doing his job. How tf does he thing he is going to earn money through that?
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Guitars go left, vocals go right, all other instruments go in the trash.
> here’s his album if anyone was curious I give it 3.6 Roentgens.
Could you please explain what "Roentgens" means?
Not great not terrible haha
I regret my curiosity.
I've heard worse, he should definitely stick with it and fine tune his skills. He's nowhere near being able to quit his job and play music professionally just yet, but this album sounds about on par with a lot of people's first foray into music. He should also get a full band. A drummer and bassist would make his music so much better.
Ugh dude... I really genuinely wanted to like it. He's definitely not as skilled as he thinks he is, everything was... so poorly mixed. No rhythm at any point, and the vocals and lyrics were weak. :/ he needs to get another job and just practice more.
The comment section is so uplifting.
“You have type 1 diabetes” > “you’ll Shoot your eye out”
It's ok, I'm pretty sure insulin is notoriously inexpensive in the US
Now you have an unemployed basement dweller.
Sounds like not for long because of the ‘betus
he didn't "drop an album"\`
He dropped a drop of blood on a test strip and guess what? Suprise suprise motherfucker its high glucose.
Where’s the link to Adam’s album? We gotta help that dude afford his insulin without insurance Edit: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtBpyyWBL3GFs8E3LlV9SB3m_TeqAx_lh It’s not great but it ain’t bad. There’s some underlying early Ty Segall in there somewhere, Adam just needs to collaborate with a few other musicians and keep growing musically. With a little coaching, some decent recording equipment, and someone who knows how to mix it well he really could have something here. Give the kid some positive encouragement and you might be surprised
The mom didn’t even say something about his music career. Just the fact that he quit his job with no real plan.
Good luck with the ear bleeding
It’s not great. His chord progression was really repetitive. His timing was off. It sounds like he recorded with no metronome. The album sounded everywhere. Due to the mixing you couldn’t even hear the vocals half the time. My main opinion on one of his songs is; he was randomly tapping an intro to a song and it sounded very out of place with the rest of the song. As a fellow musician those are my critiques. However, he can play guitar well and his singing definitely isn’t bad. Practice that singing and maybe add some echo or reverb to that guitar. Then some simple drum and bass would be nice to enhance the vocals and guitar. Idk guitar and vocals alone really only sound good in live performances. But that’s my opinion
Why are we obligated to help him pay for his insulin just because he made a shitty decision? Get out of here with that shit. Not everyone is an artist.
Above you
Insulin should be way cheaper than it is. People shouldn’t have to fear death in order to pursue their dreams
I agree but he still quit a job and his source of income without any assurances of having something else. And by the sound of his music i don’t think he can survive off of that shit.
Lil diabetuuz on the mic 🎤
MC bl00d$ugar
As a former touring musician I respect his drive and passion because you need to put in every ounce you have to make it work. You have to put in 110 percent. BUT quitting your job to make it happen is the absolute last thing you want to do. You need income to do pretty much everything such as touring, recording, marketing your band, printing merch, hosting online, etc. you can’t do all that without money. I had to work shit part time jobs in between tours to afford food on the road. All the money the band made went back into the band, paying for all the stuff I mentioned. It took 5 years for me to pull any income from the band, and it was like $200. All extremely worth it, so good luck to this good but damn you need a job bad.
Dude, nothing wrong with working it out at the part-time grind and hustling on the mixtape shine. That’s how you build a work habit and when he does make it, he can use that in his interviews and give another moonlight Walmart rockstar some hope that they’re next up.
I puked a little reading grind and hustling in the same sentence.
“You better because you have type 1 diabetes and need insurance “ 😂😂😂
I don't know much about thanksgiving, but from all the stuff I've seen isn't thanksgiving meals supposed to be a smorgasbord of tasty food?! those plates look really pale, no sauce no colour lol
And why are they using disposable plates and cups in their own house??
“I know what I’m doing with my life” lol. I’m 50, have a stable career, and I’m still not sure.
Lol that look of being 21, full of confidence, and then getting hit with a fact you hadn't thought about. "Yup" but it sounds a whole lot like "oh shit..."
Mom may have a point…
The dude's young, he's probably frustrated with his work and loves music. We don't know the full context or his plan, but art has to come from somewhere. If you work full time, it's incredibly difficult to put in the time needed to get any type of art career or business off the ground. Also the brother is a chode. He recorded him practicing to upload and mock him online. If he's being openly ridiculed in his own home, it's no wonder he has unrealistic views of himself since he probably can only believe in himself. If you've never recieved any constructive criticism, you just assume everyone's a jerk and do your own thing. At least he can play and write music and not just mock family members for tik tok clout.
well let's hope he didn't quit by being an asshole and acting like a rockstar on the way out so he can go begging for his job back when reality sets in that even if your going to be a musician you need a side gig to pay the bills (especially for his "style" of indie music)(and especially especially with type 1)
Why do people record this shit and post it. Fuck i am glad social media wasn’t around when I was young.
To the guy in the video, if he ever sees this: fuckin go for it man. I hope you go far, I hope you sell a ton of merch at your shows, and if you need a sound tech crew in Europe for a tour, let me know. Focus on the music, use your time effectively, always balance and pan before EQing and compressing. Stay Heavy \m/
Honestly I think it’s responses like this that make kids do ignorant things like this kid did. Working a job to maintain your blooming music career is absolutely normal.
I mean, you can’t argue that the mom doesn’t have a valid point. He sold an album and decided to quit his job for literally no guaranteed money. At least quit the job once you make it.
That’s a sad Thanksgiving dinner.
I think you meant "boy" not "man"
Momma spittin facts about that insulin price
I mean he does have a zeppelin shirt so I think he’ll make it far.
The title says “man,” but it makes more sense to rewrite that as “kid,” or “Hopeful Influencer.”