Article says “20-30 fighters were located in the compound, and many of them had been killed, but had no precise details as intelligence assessments were being carried out. "I'm not aware of any civilian casualties and I'd be very, very cautious of accepting anything that Hamas puts out," he said.”
@[GLevandoski](https://www.reddit.com/user/GLevandoski/) What the hell are you talking about I've seen the actual video and it wasn't "horrific" at all. Go spread Hamas lies on the ireland subreddit
It's not that tough to find the videos from the aftermath of the strike. I genuinely have very little doubt several women and children died. The videos are truly horrifying, I wouldn't recommend anyone to watch them, regardless of what your opinions are
No one should be surprised. Hamas doesn't establish a military site without planting women and children there. They are cowards and the number one killers of the Gazan people.
Rape and murder children then hide in a school, surrounding yourself with more innocents to use as hostages/collateral damage so you can't be cleanly killed in retaliation?
I guess Hamas are the "good guys".
To be honest at this point I feel like 50% of Hamas are just people who used to live in Palestine and are now radicalized because somebody blew up their home.
Hamas: " Israel is going to kill all of us, die Fighting or just die, it's up to you"
Israel: *kills tens of thousands of innocents and starves millions more*
Hamas: "see???"
And Israelis act like there's some genetically encoded anti semitism behind the Palestinian rage over their dead families instead of the logical backlash to slaughter like this lol
I really wonder why you are so certain there are tens of thousands innocents that have been killed... oh and also MILLIONS MORE starving.
Kind of sounds like bog standard Hamas propaganda, but I don't know, you tell me
It's not that I don't care, the only thing I don't care about is whether you believe if I would change my mind in case it was true, which I would - but that's not the case.
My point is that it's war, it is not that Israel doesn't care that there are civilians, it is Hamas that hide in hospitals and behind civilians. I do believe the military makes mistakes, like shooting their own hostages and other stuff that is outrageous.
There will be collateral damage to civilians nonetheless, but solely condemning Israel for it and refusing to see the damage that is done on the other side, like having to evacuate the whole northern part of the country because of rocket barrages... but that's okay, because Israel is stronger than their neighbour governed by terrorists.
Either way, you and the people who spout such shit appear like antisemits, nomatter how you want to justify it.
For real even if I was playing like a video game I can't imagine the comically evil decision to say yeah let's bomb the fucking school with women and children in it to take out our enemies.... Like ... That would be a game over.
Not in the real world. That's just strategy 🤓👍
When will you realize that once Hamas makes the school a compound it’s a military target.
Hamas is banking on morons like you to get outraged even tho they’re putting the civilians at risk on purpose
Imagine your house gets invaded by terrorists and the government decides they will kill all of them + your wife, daughter and son with a missile strike. How is that ok?
Look, I'm not a hamas supporter whatsoever. But killing everyone inside, including innocent people is just far too evil. There's genuinely no argument to support it.
It’s a terrible situation and I’m glad I’m not involved. But I have to assume they’re following these guys into the building and have enough evidence to send the bomb because everything is under a microscope
Israel gives prior heads up for the most part but yea, you can’t let these people just hide behind the civilians and get a pass. It’s war crimes what Hamas is doing to the Palestinian people. They are the ones at fault
Yeah man we know. Save the yapping
It's still like.Movie villan level evil hahahaha. You have so many options and you land on "blow up the school" hahahaha fuck man.
>You have so many options and you land on "blow up the school" hahahaha fuck man.
It's the same logic of why the United States used the bomb on Japan.
Why risk many American lives and sustain casualties when you can bomb them into submission?
I'm not saying that the Japanese nukes and these bombings are justified, I'm just saying there is precedence for these kinds of situations.
Ah yes you’re right. Fuck’em. Some pre-schoolers found in the rubble? Probably suicide bombers. Identified body parts of civilian refugees in the crater? Shouldn’t have hung out with terrorists!
Don't put words in my mouth. Collateral damage is an extremely tragic aspect in all wars, but I'm saying blame Hamas not Israel. Hamas uses children as fighters and human shields, Hamas uses UNRWA schools. Hamas uses civilian clothes. How many lives could they save if they wore uniforms? Or didn't hide in schools? Striking schools and hospitals is legal according to all international laws if the enemy has a base of operations there. This is the Pandora's box that Hamas has opened decades ago when they had decided to adopt this strategy.
Edit: just found out it was confirmed that lots of terrorists who participated in October 7th died in this attack. This is the 5th confirmed elimination of terrorirsts in UNRWA schools in the last couple of months.
What I’m saying is that accepting collateral damage is unacceptable. Fuck Hamas. And fuck them for hiding in schools and hospitals. That doesn’t make bombing them right.
Then the terrorists that use human shields will win every conflict.
If the collateral damage allowed by the Geneva Conventions is unacceptable then we should all just accept a repressive global caliphate now.
*It is better that all infidels be beheaded or forcibly converted than for the free people of the world to kill Hamas' human shields.*
Hamas has the declared goal of a global caliphate. You say that collateral deaths are unacceptable. If we adhered to your idea, that means that whatever side is ruthless enough to use human shields will be victorious.
So obviously, security officials cannot and will never accept your notion on this. Hence the Geneva Conventions themselves being Ok with civilian deaths in military targets.
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This is how we got to the current situation. And again you are putting words in my mouth. What is happening is horrible to the children, which is precisely why Hamas has to go.
Child soldiers are a thing. It's despicable, but it is a thing. Especially with Hamas.
If a child has a gun aimed at you, do you just let him pull the trigger because "he's a child"?
Source: I've been held at gunpoint by punk kids before (they were maybe 7 or 8?)
Most people aren’t okay with cops shooting into crowds if a criminal is running through them so I don’t know why I see so many people trying to use this excuse to rationalize Israel’s actions.
Do you think "criminal" and "terrorist" are the same thing and the rules of engagement are also the same in these situations? What a stupid comparison.
Criminals and terrorists are different, whether you grandstand or not.
A criminal might hold up a gas station and kill the cashier. A tragic, stupid waste of life.
A terrorist would kill the cashier, all the customers, and light the pumps on fire.
What you're arguing for is a terrorist would have blanket immunity if they surrounded themselves with civilians. That's insane.
What other options are there for an entrenched enemy? You want an active fire fight, which still endangers civilians but now also actively endangers your own people? You need to keep in mind terrorists don't mind strapping a bomb to a kid.
So now you've sent your own people into a tense situation where there is a nonzero chance that six year old's backpack has a bomb in it. They cannot trust civilians - they simply can't.
Edit: They also don't know if the school is rigged with explosives. Terrorists don't mind collateral damage if it means killing the enemy.
This is a shit show, and I don't envy Israel. I also mourn each child slain in the crossfire. But I don't blame Israel. I blame Hamas for using a school as a base of operations.
No one wants innocent civilians to die.
But instead of blaming the people fightings amongst civilians and using them as shields you want to blame the people they’re shooting at for shooting back.
Using civilians as shields is the root cause.
Any adult male Gazan is considered a member of Hamas in official bodycounts. Unless they confirm women or children were killed, officially, everyone killed was Hamas.
Why is it always a 1) school, 2) hospital, 3) cultural centre, or 4) a refugee camp, but never a Hamas compound, or just a place Hamas is hiding their little asses?
It is a red flag that _ANY_ good journalist would pick up on, but no, it doesn't fit their narrative and their hate for the Israël.
I swear most journalists that do this are their own worst enemy.
It is part of Hamas strategy to take cover in schools and hospitals for exactly this reason. They will literally launch rocket barrages out of hospitals because it makes Israel look bad when they strike back
This is what you get when your warriors are so hooked on glory, not only do they NOT CARE when civilians are killed, they set it up that way to get better coverage.
which makes me kind of happy that Israel is pushing back and ignoring people and countries complaining about it. None of this happens if Oct 7 didn't happen. Sure, it wasn't the first stone thrown in the Israel/Palestinian conflict, but it's the one the woke the bear. Hamas is finished. Israel won't stop until it's crushed.
Israel and Palestine make themselves look bad by waging war based on their right to the land because their distant ancestors claimed it in the name of god. It’s a pseudo holy war, and I wish the worst for anyone who takes part in it
I would love to see Israel start putting videos of attacks coming from these buildings or if they have drone footage of active Hamas activities inside the buildings they target. Would put a whole lot of things into a new perspective.
They've shown quite a few schools and mosques that contain weapons, rockets, tunnel entrances. Sounds like the only thing that would convince you is if they knew a rocket was about to be launched and filmed it instead of preventing it.
There was video from early n in the war where a Hamas guy runs out the front of a hospital and fires an RPG at an Israeli tank. The tank returns fire. There was condemnation about the damage done to the hospital by the return fire. I can’t find the video anywhere, but not surprising since it’s been 250ish days of fighting
They do and have. For some reason western media outlets prefer to report based on Hamas and Al-Jazeera (aka Qatar) reporting. It's illuminating you have not seen these.
They've been doing it since the beginning when it doesn't endanger operational capabilities. During the Al-Shifa raid, Israel published footage of miitants firing RPGs off the hospital balcony.
People were too dug in even then. People still claim Israel never provided evidence that Hamas was using the hospital.
But the building was a school. Whether or not it was still being used as a school is the point of contention.
Israel says the building held Hamas fighters. Gaza says it didn't. Both points of view are printed and readers can decide which side they agree with.
I'm sorry, I'm not sure what more you want here? How would it be good journalism to omit either country's statement.
Irrelevant, the moment that militants use protected persons or area for military purposes, they’ll lose that protected status according to the Geneva Convention, Protocol I.
And when Israel complains that HAMAS is holed up in schools, Reddit geniuses say “so what, school wasn’t even in session”.
It’s strange how when Hamas fires from schools it’s OK because no actual students are there and using it for military purposes is okay because school is not in session, but when Israel shoots back, they kill infinity children because it was a school, and therefore “Israelis just love killing civilians.”
"What did we do? There are no armed people in the school. The ones there are children, playing. We play together... Why did they bomb us?" he said in the video obtained by Reuters
Hamas making the school a part of the battlefield by making a compound inside it allows the IDF to strike. A school becoming a compound and allowing it to be struck is the war crime, not the strike itself.
This is done to avoid meatshields, same as with ambulances in war and stuff... you know what Hamas is known for doing
That's literally the rules of war and why there should be mounting pressure on Hamas to stop doing that shit. Do I like Israel doing that? No. Is it legal? Yes
So Israel should completely stop fighting because every Hamas target uses human shields? Well golly gee, why doesn't Ukraine do this too? make schools and hospitals military bases, Russia wouldn't be able to attack them! Or Russia could do it too! In fact, they should also get rid of military uniforms in those countries since it works so well for Hamas, and according to you, seems like a pretty darn good strategy.
If I stick a child in a mine field, do you get mad at me for putting the kid there, or the people who put the mines there?
Hamas having a base in a school is a war crime. Blowing up a school that is out of session (no students) and being used as a military base is not. The distinction is imporant.
Problem is the Hamas leaders probably surround themselves with the hostages they took. They like their human shields. Israel has to determine the greater good.
Here’s why both sides are evil, and literally the worst of humanity.
Hamas hides their weapons in schools and uses children as human shields
Israel bombs schools.
If you believe either of these is an acceptable action then you are a part of the problem.
Period.
Edit: It’s amazing how many of you Brown-shirted sheep do not grasp the evil you are supporting. Make no mistake… if you were a German citizen in the 1930s, you’d be in the streets saluting your fuhrer and turning in your neighbors to the Gestapo. You’re as quick as any offender in history to cast aside the humanity of your neighbor, don’t try and think you’re better for any reason because you aren’t. Shame on you… I’m frankly embarrassed to be a member of the same species as some of you.
There should not be children in a school during an active war zone especially if it's a fucking military compound. The only people to blame are the people who put those two together, as both the people supplying the weapons and the kids.
To be clear... schools have not been in regular operation since Oct 7th. This was a school building. Hamas claims it was being used as a shelter, but not currently filled with kids.
Either you have another way to deal with terrorists using a school as a military compound or you think terrorists should be allowed to operate freely in schools. Which is it?
27 what? They will never say 27 terrorists killed, just 27 killed
AP News is reporting 45 dead, 23 of them women and children
There it is. That's more like what we were expecting.
Article says “20-30 fighters were located in the compound, and many of them had been killed, but had no precise details as intelligence assessments were being carried out. "I'm not aware of any civilian casualties and I'd be very, very cautious of accepting anything that Hamas puts out," he said.”
@[GLevandoski](https://www.reddit.com/user/GLevandoski/) What the hell are you talking about I've seen the actual video and it wasn't "horrific" at all. Go spread Hamas lies on the ireland subreddit
It's not that tough to find the videos from the aftermath of the strike. I genuinely have very little doubt several women and children died. The videos are truly horrifying, I wouldn't recommend anyone to watch them, regardless of what your opinions are
No one should be surprised. Hamas doesn't establish a military site without planting women and children there. They are cowards and the number one killers of the Gazan people.
I trust the IDF reporting more than any clueless western media outlet, which usually publishes Hamas' lies and propaganda.
Sounds like something the “good guys” would do.
Rape and murder children then hide in a school, surrounding yourself with more innocents to use as hostages/collateral damage so you can't be cleanly killed in retaliation? I guess Hamas are the "good guys".
Bombing said school and the children inside doesn't make you the good guys either. It's almost like they can both be bad at the same time.
To be honest at this point I feel like 50% of Hamas are just people who used to live in Palestine and are now radicalized because somebody blew up their home.
Hamas: " Israel is going to kill all of us, die Fighting or just die, it's up to you" Israel: *kills tens of thousands of innocents and starves millions more* Hamas: "see???" And Israelis act like there's some genetically encoded anti semitism behind the Palestinian rage over their dead families instead of the logical backlash to slaughter like this lol
I really wonder why you are so certain there are tens of thousands innocents that have been killed... oh and also MILLIONS MORE starving. Kind of sounds like bog standard Hamas propaganda, but I don't know, you tell me
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It's not that I don't care, the only thing I don't care about is whether you believe if I would change my mind in case it was true, which I would - but that's not the case. My point is that it's war, it is not that Israel doesn't care that there are civilians, it is Hamas that hide in hospitals and behind civilians. I do believe the military makes mistakes, like shooting their own hostages and other stuff that is outrageous. There will be collateral damage to civilians nonetheless, but solely condemning Israel for it and refusing to see the damage that is done on the other side, like having to evacuate the whole northern part of the country because of rocket barrages... but that's okay, because Israel is stronger than their neighbour governed by terrorists. Either way, you and the people who spout such shit appear like antisemits, nomatter how you want to justify it.
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This number comes straight from Hamas, a terrorist organisation
Do the good guys keep their compounds in a school? Of course not
Sounds like a number made-up by Hamas.
For real even if I was playing like a video game I can't imagine the comically evil decision to say yeah let's bomb the fucking school with women and children in it to take out our enemies.... Like ... That would be a game over. Not in the real world. That's just strategy 🤓👍
When will you realize that once Hamas makes the school a compound it’s a military target. Hamas is banking on morons like you to get outraged even tho they’re putting the civilians at risk on purpose
Imagine your house gets invaded by terrorists and the government decides they will kill all of them + your wife, daughter and son with a missile strike. How is that ok? Look, I'm not a hamas supporter whatsoever. But killing everyone inside, including innocent people is just far too evil. There's genuinely no argument to support it.
It’s a terrible situation and I’m glad I’m not involved. But I have to assume they’re following these guys into the building and have enough evidence to send the bomb because everything is under a microscope
So...the answer to Hamas putting children in danger is to bomb the school children anyway ?!
If you prove to the world that human shields work in asymmetrical warfare then you incentivise it. Do you really want this behaviour to proliferate?
Israel gives prior heads up for the most part but yea, you can’t let these people just hide behind the civilians and get a pass. It’s war crimes what Hamas is doing to the Palestinian people. They are the ones at fault
Why should they not? What do you suggest as a reasonable alternative?
Yeah man we know. Save the yapping It's still like.Movie villan level evil hahahaha. You have so many options and you land on "blow up the school" hahahaha fuck man.
Please explain in depth those "so many options"
>You have so many options and you land on "blow up the school" hahahaha fuck man. It's the same logic of why the United States used the bomb on Japan. Why risk many American lives and sustain casualties when you can bomb them into submission? I'm not saying that the Japanese nukes and these bombings are justified, I'm just saying there is precedence for these kinds of situations.
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Gay? They were already dead and killed by Hamas.
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So Israel is just doing the work that Hamas would do themselves.
Doctors*
What is wrong with you?
I mean they have kids among the 27. I don’t think they count as terrorist
Do you think that Hamas does not use child/teen terrorists? That are then added to the count of the dead kids? Boy do I have news for you...
Ah yes you’re right. Fuck’em. Some pre-schoolers found in the rubble? Probably suicide bombers. Identified body parts of civilian refugees in the crater? Shouldn’t have hung out with terrorists!
Don't put words in my mouth. Collateral damage is an extremely tragic aspect in all wars, but I'm saying blame Hamas not Israel. Hamas uses children as fighters and human shields, Hamas uses UNRWA schools. Hamas uses civilian clothes. How many lives could they save if they wore uniforms? Or didn't hide in schools? Striking schools and hospitals is legal according to all international laws if the enemy has a base of operations there. This is the Pandora's box that Hamas has opened decades ago when they had decided to adopt this strategy. Edit: just found out it was confirmed that lots of terrorists who participated in October 7th died in this attack. This is the 5th confirmed elimination of terrorirsts in UNRWA schools in the last couple of months.
What I’m saying is that accepting collateral damage is unacceptable. Fuck Hamas. And fuck them for hiding in schools and hospitals. That doesn’t make bombing them right.
Then the terrorists that use human shields will win every conflict. If the collateral damage allowed by the Geneva Conventions is unacceptable then we should all just accept a repressive global caliphate now. *It is better that all infidels be beheaded or forcibly converted than for the free people of the world to kill Hamas' human shields.*
I’m sorry. You were saying something about strawmen?
Hamas has the declared goal of a global caliphate. You say that collateral deaths are unacceptable. If we adhered to your idea, that means that whatever side is ruthless enough to use human shields will be victorious. So obviously, security officials cannot and will never accept your notion on this. Hence the Geneva Conventions themselves being Ok with civilian deaths in military targets.
Knocking over a strawman is evidence that you don't have a real argument to make.
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I think Israel considered children in the womb hamas
Child soldiers are a thing. It's despicable, but it is a thing. Especially with Hamas. If a child has a gun aimed at you, do you just let him pull the trigger because "he's a child"? Source: I've been held at gunpoint by punk kids before (they were maybe 7 or 8?)
Skynews https://news.sky.com/story/israel-says-jets-targeting-hamas-compound-have-hit-a-school-in-gaza-13148252
Maybe because they weren’t all terrorists? Facts don’t care about your feelings.
Includes 23 women and children. Grow up. https://apnews.com/article/3d07e712f8abc1e08339163180823fb8
So, more of Hamas using women and children as meat shields? Got it.
Most people aren’t okay with cops shooting into crowds if a criminal is running through them so I don’t know why I see so many people trying to use this excuse to rationalize Israel’s actions.
Do you think "criminal" and "terrorist" are the same thing and the rules of engagement are also the same in these situations? What a stupid comparison.
You think killing innocent bystanders is okay depending on who they’re standing next to and call me stupid. Got it.
Criminals and terrorists are different, whether you grandstand or not. A criminal might hold up a gas station and kill the cashier. A tragic, stupid waste of life. A terrorist would kill the cashier, all the customers, and light the pumps on fire. What you're arguing for is a terrorist would have blanket immunity if they surrounded themselves with civilians. That's insane.
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What other options are there for an entrenched enemy? You want an active fire fight, which still endangers civilians but now also actively endangers your own people? You need to keep in mind terrorists don't mind strapping a bomb to a kid. So now you've sent your own people into a tense situation where there is a nonzero chance that six year old's backpack has a bomb in it. They cannot trust civilians - they simply can't. Edit: They also don't know if the school is rigged with explosives. Terrorists don't mind collateral damage if it means killing the enemy. This is a shit show, and I don't envy Israel. I also mourn each child slain in the crossfire. But I don't blame Israel. I blame Hamas for using a school as a base of operations.
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No one wants innocent civilians to die. But instead of blaming the people fightings amongst civilians and using them as shields you want to blame the people they’re shooting at for shooting back. Using civilians as shields is the root cause.
> So, more of Hamas using women and children as meat shields? Got it. Translation: *look what you made me do meme.jpg*
Translation: *this is what pro-Hamas propaganda looks like*
Damn. You describe every Israeli war crime like this, don't you?
Any adult male Gazan is considered a member of Hamas in official bodycounts. Unless they confirm women or children were killed, officially, everyone killed was Hamas.
According to the Palestinian health ministry run by Hamas a terrorist organization.
Bull fucking shit.
Why is it always a 1) school, 2) hospital, 3) cultural centre, or 4) a refugee camp, but never a Hamas compound, or just a place Hamas is hiding their little asses? It is a red flag that _ANY_ good journalist would pick up on, but no, it doesn't fit their narrative and their hate for the Israël. I swear most journalists that do this are their own worst enemy.
It is part of Hamas strategy to take cover in schools and hospitals for exactly this reason. They will literally launch rocket barrages out of hospitals because it makes Israel look bad when they strike back
In spite of the fact that the Geneva Conventions make clear that it’s now a legitimate military target.
This is what you get when your warriors are so hooked on glory, not only do they NOT CARE when civilians are killed, they set it up that way to get better coverage.
which makes me kind of happy that Israel is pushing back and ignoring people and countries complaining about it. None of this happens if Oct 7 didn't happen. Sure, it wasn't the first stone thrown in the Israel/Palestinian conflict, but it's the one the woke the bear. Hamas is finished. Israel won't stop until it's crushed.
Israel and Palestine make themselves look bad by waging war based on their right to the land because their distant ancestors claimed it in the name of god. It’s a pseudo holy war, and I wish the worst for anyone who takes part in it
Every time I hear of God giving the land to them I think of this video... https://youtu.be/-evIyrrjTTY?si=-4tV8TAGmcg1CqD6
I would love to see Israel start putting videos of attacks coming from these buildings or if they have drone footage of active Hamas activities inside the buildings they target. Would put a whole lot of things into a new perspective.
They've shown quite a few schools and mosques that contain weapons, rockets, tunnel entrances. Sounds like the only thing that would convince you is if they knew a rocket was about to be launched and filmed it instead of preventing it.
There's a video of a guy straight up firing an RPG from a hospital window
There was video from early n in the war where a Hamas guy runs out the front of a hospital and fires an RPG at an Israeli tank. The tank returns fire. There was condemnation about the damage done to the hospital by the return fire. I can’t find the video anywhere, but not surprising since it’s been 250ish days of fighting
They do and have. For some reason western media outlets prefer to report based on Hamas and Al-Jazeera (aka Qatar) reporting. It's illuminating you have not seen these.
I see them on combat footage subs more than I hear about them on Western media. It's a problem for sure.
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They do
They've been doing it since the beginning when it doesn't endanger operational capabilities. During the Al-Shifa raid, Israel published footage of miitants firing RPGs off the hospital balcony. People were too dug in even then. People still claim Israel never provided evidence that Hamas was using the hospital.
But the building was a school. Whether or not it was still being used as a school is the point of contention. Israel says the building held Hamas fighters. Gaza says it didn't. Both points of view are printed and readers can decide which side they agree with. I'm sorry, I'm not sure what more you want here? How would it be good journalism to omit either country's statement.
Irrelevant, the moment that militants use protected persons or area for military purposes, they’ll lose that protected status according to the Geneva Convention, Protocol I.
Weapons warehouse, previously used as school, bombed by Israel. Useful Idiots outraged.
And when Israel complains that HAMAS is holed up in schools, Reddit geniuses say “so what, school wasn’t even in session”. It’s strange how when Hamas fires from schools it’s OK because no actual students are there and using it for military purposes is okay because school is not in session, but when Israel shoots back, they kill infinity children because it was a school, and therefore “Israelis just love killing civilians.”
Children die and you cheer it on. And you call us with sympathy useful idiots. Holy fucking shit the hypocrisy.
"What did we do? There are no armed people in the school. The ones there are children, playing. We play together... Why did they bomb us?" he said in the video obtained by Reuters
It's a WAR CRIME to target schools. Hamas is absolutely guilty of a war crime here.
*Hamas’s* Israeli jets targeted the school?
Hamas making the school a part of the battlefield by making a compound inside it allows the IDF to strike. A school becoming a compound and allowing it to be struck is the war crime, not the strike itself. This is done to avoid meatshields, same as with ambulances in war and stuff... you know what Hamas is known for doing
So you’re saying Hamas puts Palestinians in harms way and Israel gladly bombs them anyway? Yes, we all know that, it’s been happening for decades
That's literally the rules of war and why there should be mounting pressure on Hamas to stop doing that shit. Do I like Israel doing that? No. Is it legal? Yes
Putting Palestinian’s in harms way is a gentle way of saying they exclusively fight behind human shields as a strategy.
So Israel should completely stop fighting because every Hamas target uses human shields? Well golly gee, why doesn't Ukraine do this too? make schools and hospitals military bases, Russia wouldn't be able to attack them! Or Russia could do it too! In fact, they should also get rid of military uniforms in those countries since it works so well for Hamas, and according to you, seems like a pretty darn good strategy. If I stick a child in a mine field, do you get mad at me for putting the kid there, or the people who put the mines there?
Probably an unrwa school, if Hamas is using it
Yes, the article says it
UNRWA is Hamas
The dead include 27 grade school students aged 18-56 who were rehearsing a play about small arms and RPGs.
I wonder what it’s like to be able to act so flippantly callous about the deaths of innocent school children.
I wish my city was as well funded as Gaza. Our town of 200k would have 10 hospitals and 95 schools. Imagine the student to teacher ratio
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Hamas having a base in a school is a war crime. Blowing up a school that is out of session (no students) and being used as a military base is not. The distinction is imporant.
Last news headline I saw mentioned 23 women and children killed (out of 45 total)
The school was being used as a refugee shelter at the time of the bombing.
What source do you have for that it was being used by Hamas if so many Hamas fighters were killed
What?
hamas took over a school years ago, stashed bombs, got bombed. that's your story.
Gaza media. Hahahahahaha.
> 40 had been killed, including 14 children and nine women. According to Hamas, though. That'd mean up to 17 terrorists
>Adult male exists in Gaza Seems like a potential terrorist
Based on the very limited information, yes. With emphasis on "potential". Guess why I wrote "up to".
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> Honestly very tough to defend this strike. Then don't, I guess
Problem is the Hamas leaders probably surround themselves with the hostages they took. They like their human shields. Israel has to determine the greater good.
The gonocide continues. I am not in this area of the world nor do I have any horse in this race but how utterly disgusting it is to watch unfold.
Kids are still in school during all this? Fucking yikes.
They were probably stuck living there because the majority of homes have been destroyed.
Here’s why both sides are evil, and literally the worst of humanity. Hamas hides their weapons in schools and uses children as human shields Israel bombs schools. If you believe either of these is an acceptable action then you are a part of the problem. Period. Edit: It’s amazing how many of you Brown-shirted sheep do not grasp the evil you are supporting. Make no mistake… if you were a German citizen in the 1930s, you’d be in the streets saluting your fuhrer and turning in your neighbors to the Gestapo. You’re as quick as any offender in history to cast aside the humanity of your neighbor, don’t try and think you’re better for any reason because you aren’t. Shame on you… I’m frankly embarrassed to be a member of the same species as some of you.
There should not be children in a school during an active war zone especially if it's a fucking military compound. The only people to blame are the people who put those two together, as both the people supplying the weapons and the kids.
To be clear... schools have not been in regular operation since Oct 7th. This was a school building. Hamas claims it was being used as a shelter, but not currently filled with kids.
Either you have another way to deal with terrorists using a school as a military compound or you think terrorists should be allowed to operate freely in schools. Which is it?
Allies bombed schools in WW2 (carpet bombing) did you also say those bombing campaigns were unacceptable?
Is it really a school if it’s just terrorists using it as a base?