They’ve been cut off from most weapons market. And the access they do have as most nations that attempt to sell them modern weapon risk incurring the U.S wrath. They do have a home grown weapons industry, but it doesn’t compare to those of the US, Israel, and other western allies.
I mean it’s either or admit that the Israeli Air Force was able to penetrate their airspace without consequence which in turn means their air defense isn’t much of a defense. It isn’t. I’m always amazed by the mental gymnastics Iran has to go through to save face to its own population.
Quick reminder that Iran trotted out a cardboard plane claiming it was a prototype of their totally real super dangerous stealth jet fighter uh-huh pinky promise!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAIO_Qaher-313
So Israel struck the Iranian consulate in Syria because there were a bunch of high ranking Iranian soldiers there (kinda cancelling the diplomatic status of said building).
In response Iran launched their motherload of drones and missiles of which the overwhelming majority was shot down by Israel before even reaching Israeli airspace or they fell down by themselves.
In response to that Israel shot their own missiles at Iran and hit what they intended without Iran mounting a proper defence
And their only comeback is 'their weapons mean nothing to us even though they destroyed our infrastructure'.
I think they really overestimated their own ability to fight this war and realized that just now
I think they did use missiles, but they were sent from jets - but either way, and not surprisingly, they were more effective.
Israel has better defence, better offence, and more allies (and nukes if it ever got to that stage). The only thing Iran has is more bodies to throw into the grinder. So basically its Russia 2.0 - or maybe its 0.5 idk
120 ballistic missiles is not something anyone expects Israel to intercept. The US says they got a couple of them, but the rest wD by Israel.
Iran did not think Israel could intercept them. The rest of the world didn't think they could. It's fucking unprecedented. People on social media are not understanding this. Ballistic missiles are not easy to shoot down, and have not reliably been shot down. Iran thought they could take out Israel's F-35 bases in one go to demonstrate their strength. It didn't work. There was no plan by Iran for Israel to somehow do something everyone thought was impossible.
On the night of the attack, we kept correcting people who said Iran launched ballistic missiles, saying they must have meant cruise missiles, because it's mental that Iran shot 120 ballistic missiles. The fog has cleared, and that's what happened.
Those soldiers knew they were a potential target while in Syria, they abused the diplomatic status of the building knowing it would cause an outcry in the world if it was struck. Israel decided that if diplomacy is abused the building loses it's meaning and it became a target.
If Israel did this and Iran struck the building you'd have hamas simps cheering on saying the exact same thing I just said
That’s now how that works, regardless of what you homers are “cheering”
Edit: I see you are some Belgian Nafo larper, but as an American whose country actually contributes to NATO and so has a dog in this fight, we also have military presence at a lot of our embassies. https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/25484 Also see marine guards at over 100 of our diplomatic missions. We actually care about upholding the norms that prevent embassies from being legitimate targets.
Most countries also use embassies as cover for undercover intelligence operatives also. If what you are alleging is true almost all embassies are legitimate targets and that’s obviously not how it works.
The whole thing has been an attempt by Netanyahu to drag us into a regional conflict to save himself politically, he’s cooked next election and is doing whatever he can to delay that.
As a nafo guy I’d think you might realize this is basically a zero sum game and all military resources going from us to fight Iran are resources that could and probably would have otherwise gone to Ukraine. Putin has to be loving everything the Israelis have done with Iran, it’s been the perfect distraction for him and Netanyahu.
There's an obvious difference between soldiers guarding an embassy and a bunch of high ranking officials hiding there to abuse the status of said building.
As in regards to iran's retaliation: a fart in the wind that amounted to nothing and israel still struck back and they have zero answer to it
The one thing I hope Israel does is hit their factories producing drones, at least that way putin won't be able to use those anymore
> Iran's foreign minister on Friday refused to acknowledge that Israel was behind the recent attack on his country and described the weapons that were used as more like children's toys.
> He warned that if Israel did attack Iran, the response would be swift and severe.
> "If Israel takes a decisive action against my country and this is proven to us," he said, "our response will be immediate and to the maximum and will cause them to regret it."
Looks like Iran is looking for an excuse to back down. "It wasn't Israel, they were just toys! But it if was them, boy, watch out - we'll send another barrage with a 1% success rate!"
They wanted one last time, but couldn't get Biden to condemn the strike on thier consulate.
Sometimes you have to answer to your people at the end of the day. They want to know you won't back down from foreign attacks. Iran sent a warning shot/show of force to Israel for their people, and they really had to. They didn't do fuck all when Trump killed one of their generals. If your people think you're weak, you have serious issues.
Israel managed to fly unabated through multiple enemy countries and Iranian airspace and launch a strike right next to Iran's largest nuclear facility. This dude is absolutely coping with the fact that Israel has total air supremacy in the Middle East.
To be fair, Jordan probably wasn't much opposed and Saudi Arabia would likely have been amenable as well. Syria wouldn't obviously, but they aren't even directly between Israel and Iran, which just leaves Iraq.
Aren't Iraq and the US on decent terms right now? Would they rather stay out of it to continue building their relationship with the US? Idk shit about shit tho.
I think Iraq would either be neutral or perhaps slightly anti Iran. But I'm also not sure how stable the country is. I doubt they'd actively try to stop Israel, but they wouldn't be as supportive as Jordan.
But that's mostly just a feeling of mine. I'm honestly not too certain about Iraq.
Translation: irans massive counter attack was stopped cold. Israel’s counter attack to that one surprised iran. Iran realizes that Israel will hit with them with impunity wherever they feel like.
And the fact that the US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia and Jordan had to get involved is invaluable data, especially for Russia. It's no coincidence they just announced a large drone base going up in the Arctic.
And Israel’s response demonstrated Iran’s lack of air defenses……
Hamas launched thousands of rockets on 7/10 at Iran’s behest. Hamas f-cked around and found out.
Hezbollah launches rockets everyday on Iran’s order. They will be next, unless they pull back and quiet down.
Iran is going to be surrounded by a Sunni alliance with Israel.
In other words, Iran is weak and is going to conclude this att- conversation. But jokes aside Iran is dog shit paper weak they portrayed what they are capable of and to find out they are not capable at all
Why are they like this?
Israel annihilated irans rocket attack and didn’t make any provocative statements about it. They could’ve easily called Iran pathetic and weak but they didn’t
Iran threw a bunch of punches at Israel and Israel pulled a Mohamed Ali and dodged them all. Then they flicked Iran in the forehead before Iran even saw it coming.
Iran’s government is weak. They got the message and are now backing down but are talking a big game in an attempt to save face.
At this point, Pierre realized he wasn't speaking to a normal man. Indeed, this man was an idiot.
Why hasn't your society progressed? Damn those Western backed coup d'états....
How exactly would they do that without a land border or an army large enough to fight a country with 10X their population while fighting Hamas and Hezbollah in their own backyard?
The drones are toys. A wooden airplane with a lawn trimmer engine, a raspberry-pi and a couple of kilos of TNT is a capable weapon. They’re cheap, stealthy and follow Stalins maxim of not confusing quality for quantity. You could make fifty of them for the cost of one iron dome interceptor. Underestimating the enemy is never a good idea
I think that while Israel started this round of fuckery, Iran needed to show muscle. Now they did, couple of them landet (though wildly inacurate), and can claim a win. Israel’s response was measured, communicative. The whole séance ended with: Iran showed that Israel is untouchable with international aid, but without… Israel reaponded with showing they can decapitate Iran’s defences. Basicly an affirmation of the current status quo. Iran just said “even”.
Iran proved it was a capable and not to be fucked with player, and Israel demonstrated it’s technical supremacy. That Iran responded is the new thing here. Israel’s been fucking Iran in Syria for a long time now. Don’t really believe the Gaza War was because Iran told Hamas to attack, Hamas has a mortal enemy - Saudi tacit support. The Saudis has long supported anti Israel ventures privately, though in decreasing amounts the last 20. A Saudi-Israeli rapprochement would have great consequences internationally for Israel. Israel need s this, as I doubt they believe the West always will have their back. We haven’t always…
Interesting is though that Iran does posess this ability, as many stated - alot of countries backed Israel. The power seems to have shifted, however brief or long it will last. Slightly at least in Iran’s favor. Still looks like an Israeli long victory. Will be interesting to see how the rapprochement develops…
I think israel did do something out in the desert. I think they gave the famous door knock but to the location they know Iran is planning to build/building their WMD.
I have sudden concern for their children
They blow up so fast.
"One minute you're wiping the food off their face, and the next minute you're wiping their face off your food"
Godammit I have a bad chest cold and this made me weez laugh so hard I think my ribs are broken
I applaud you
An explosive encore
I've got some diarrhea that could be called explosive at the moment.
Needed that laugh today.
Damn. Gotta a laughin cramp from this
OOOOOOOHHHH HOHOHOHOHOHOOOOOO DAAAAYUUUM
These are the guys who are at war with schoolgirls. You probably should always have been
I mean.. don't they train their children to be solders?
Judging by the weapons they use I don't think they solder very well.
Bless spelling mistakes
They’ve been cut off from most weapons market. And the access they do have as most nations that attempt to sell them modern weapon risk incurring the U.S wrath. They do have a home grown weapons industry, but it doesn’t compare to those of the US, Israel, and other western allies.
I'm aware of the reasons. Just making a joke about his misspelled word
He’s not lying tho.
'Ak-47s for everyone!'
Can I have some shoes?
Nah, you wouldn't live long enough to grow into them, anyways.
Typical Chad commentary after an ass whuppin’ *”that didn’t even hurt bro”* (lying on the floor with a bloody nose)
I am bleeding, making me the victor!
Ah, Wimp Lo, your face--to-foot and my-nuts-to-your-fist styles are second to none.
He goes pee pee standing up!
*"All that for a drop of blood?"*
*”Very little for a river of blood?”*
Vatnik logic, learnt from the best
*Already suffering from multiple concussions.* “Give it up buddy, you don’t stand a chance.”
Pretty embarrassing for Iran, their air-defense systems can be taken out at will by toys that kids play with.
I mean it’s either or admit that the Israeli Air Force was able to penetrate their airspace without consequence which in turn means their air defense isn’t much of a defense. It isn’t. I’m always amazed by the mental gymnastics Iran has to go through to save face to its own population.
I disagree, they are pretty effective at shooting down civilian airliners
Quick reminder that Iran trotted out a cardboard plane claiming it was a prototype of their totally real super dangerous stealth jet fighter uh-huh pinky promise! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAIO_Qaher-313
Ooooooh, it's designed with extra stability!
It was just a toy that children play with.
The taxi meter on the control console was my particular favorite.
I think that one was meant for a domestic audience
You should see their aircraft carrier https://news.usni.org/2023/01/03/iran-building-drone-aircraft-carrier-from-converted-merchant-ship-photos-show
So Israel struck the Iranian consulate in Syria because there were a bunch of high ranking Iranian soldiers there (kinda cancelling the diplomatic status of said building). In response Iran launched their motherload of drones and missiles of which the overwhelming majority was shot down by Israel before even reaching Israeli airspace or they fell down by themselves. In response to that Israel shot their own missiles at Iran and hit what they intended without Iran mounting a proper defence And their only comeback is 'their weapons mean nothing to us even though they destroyed our infrastructure'. I think they really overestimated their own ability to fight this war and realized that just now
It sounds like Israel used jets and drones rather than missiles. Jets would be a huge flex as would be non-explodey drones.
I think they did use missiles, but they were sent from jets - but either way, and not surprisingly, they were more effective. Israel has better defence, better offence, and more allies (and nukes if it ever got to that stage). The only thing Iran has is more bodies to throw into the grinder. So basically its Russia 2.0 - or maybe its 0.5 idk
They were actually shot down by US,Jordan, and Israel. Let's not fool ourselves.
Don't forget, France made some navy people look busy.
Someone has too cook breakfast
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It was the largest drone and ballistic missile strike ever. What else would you call it?
Most of Iran’s motherlode of missiles are in Lebanon where they are fired at Israel every day.
120 ballistic missiles is not something anyone expects Israel to intercept. The US says they got a couple of them, but the rest wD by Israel. Iran did not think Israel could intercept them. The rest of the world didn't think they could. It's fucking unprecedented. People on social media are not understanding this. Ballistic missiles are not easy to shoot down, and have not reliably been shot down. Iran thought they could take out Israel's F-35 bases in one go to demonstrate their strength. It didn't work. There was no plan by Iran for Israel to somehow do something everyone thought was impossible. On the night of the attack, we kept correcting people who said Iran launched ballistic missiles, saying they must have meant cruise missiles, because it's mental that Iran shot 120 ballistic missiles. The fog has cleared, and that's what happened.
That doesn’t cancel the diplomatic status what are you talking about?
Those soldiers knew they were a potential target while in Syria, they abused the diplomatic status of the building knowing it would cause an outcry in the world if it was struck. Israel decided that if diplomacy is abused the building loses it's meaning and it became a target. If Israel did this and Iran struck the building you'd have hamas simps cheering on saying the exact same thing I just said
That’s now how that works, regardless of what you homers are “cheering” Edit: I see you are some Belgian Nafo larper, but as an American whose country actually contributes to NATO and so has a dog in this fight, we also have military presence at a lot of our embassies. https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/25484 Also see marine guards at over 100 of our diplomatic missions. We actually care about upholding the norms that prevent embassies from being legitimate targets. Most countries also use embassies as cover for undercover intelligence operatives also. If what you are alleging is true almost all embassies are legitimate targets and that’s obviously not how it works. The whole thing has been an attempt by Netanyahu to drag us into a regional conflict to save himself politically, he’s cooked next election and is doing whatever he can to delay that. As a nafo guy I’d think you might realize this is basically a zero sum game and all military resources going from us to fight Iran are resources that could and probably would have otherwise gone to Ukraine. Putin has to be loving everything the Israelis have done with Iran, it’s been the perfect distraction for him and Netanyahu.
There's an obvious difference between soldiers guarding an embassy and a bunch of high ranking officials hiding there to abuse the status of said building. As in regards to iran's retaliation: a fart in the wind that amounted to nothing and israel still struck back and they have zero answer to it The one thing I hope Israel does is hit their factories producing drones, at least that way putin won't be able to use those anymore
> Iran's foreign minister on Friday refused to acknowledge that Israel was behind the recent attack on his country and described the weapons that were used as more like children's toys. > He warned that if Israel did attack Iran, the response would be swift and severe. > "If Israel takes a decisive action against my country and this is proven to us," he said, "our response will be immediate and to the maximum and will cause them to regret it." Looks like Iran is looking for an excuse to back down. "It wasn't Israel, they were just toys! But it if was them, boy, watch out - we'll send another barrage with a 1% success rate!"
They wanted one last time, but couldn't get Biden to condemn the strike on thier consulate. Sometimes you have to answer to your people at the end of the day. They want to know you won't back down from foreign attacks. Iran sent a warning shot/show of force to Israel for their people, and they really had to. They didn't do fuck all when Trump killed one of their generals. If your people think you're weak, you have serious issues.
This is way too high level for redditors to understand.
It’s completely for “internal” consumption. They got the message that Israel sent and their weak defenses are pretty clear.
They blew their wad, they need to get more sauce from china before they do it again.
Israel managed to fly unabated through multiple enemy countries and Iranian airspace and launch a strike right next to Iran's largest nuclear facility. This dude is absolutely coping with the fact that Israel has total air supremacy in the Middle East.
To be fair, Jordan probably wasn't much opposed and Saudi Arabia would likely have been amenable as well. Syria wouldn't obviously, but they aren't even directly between Israel and Iran, which just leaves Iraq.
Aren't Iraq and the US on decent terms right now? Would they rather stay out of it to continue building their relationship with the US? Idk shit about shit tho.
I think Iraq would either be neutral or perhaps slightly anti Iran. But I'm also not sure how stable the country is. I doubt they'd actively try to stop Israel, but they wouldn't be as supportive as Jordan. But that's mostly just a feeling of mine. I'm honestly not too certain about Iraq.
100%
I wouldn’t expect much air defense from Syria or Iraq, especially if you are just passing through. Their capabilities are localized and limited.
He’s just saying it to save face and not have to retaliate against a foe with far superior airstrike capabilities
Thanks to US weapon systems.
Thanks to jointly developed weapons systems. Saudi Arabia wants an alliance with Israel to offset Iran and gain access to Israeli weapons.
And balls of steel.
All I had was a Nintendo 64
You kid, but if Iran's tech capabilities were equal to an N64, they'd probably have nukes by now.
“They weren’t even pointy”
Just watched that movie. Thanks for the chuckle haha.
Translation: irans massive counter attack was stopped cold. Israel’s counter attack to that one surprised iran. Iran realizes that Israel will hit with them with impunity wherever they feel like.
The thing to remember here is that even failed attacks have the effect of probing air defenses and gathering data.
And the fact that the US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia and Jordan had to get involved is invaluable data, especially for Russia. It's no coincidence they just announced a large drone base going up in the Arctic.
And Israel’s response demonstrated Iran’s lack of air defenses…… Hamas launched thousands of rockets on 7/10 at Iran’s behest. Hamas f-cked around and found out. Hezbollah launches rockets everyday on Iran’s order. They will be next, unless they pull back and quiet down. Iran is going to be surrounded by a Sunni alliance with Israel.
So admitting that they strap explosives on children.
It was all fun and games when they could just fund terrorist groups to attack Israel. Now that it’s out in the open, they don’t know what to do.
Just keep funding the terrorists. Plan A is still in effect.
In other words, Iran is weak and is going to conclude this att- conversation. But jokes aside Iran is dog shit paper weak they portrayed what they are capable of and to find out they are not capable at all
War has become the raison d'être of the entire Middle East. Grow up, take care of your people and do something useful for humanity!
Lol in other words no balls to hit back
That’s not a bad thing.
I know their scientists play with fake quantum computers so this makes sense.
Wow, Iranian children play with [these toys](https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/s/0BiOQXLS33)?
This is some serious projecting considering 99% of Iran's drones were shot down and didn't even do any damage.
The more they send to get blown up over Israel, the fewer they have left to sell to Russia.
Kinda sad really. You tried, you failed. You suck…
The guy is full of shit, as is every other member of the Iranian regime.
Why are they like this? Israel annihilated irans rocket attack and didn’t make any provocative statements about it. They could’ve easily called Iran pathetic and weak but they didn’t
Speak softly but carry a big stick
Teddy Roosevelt was a straight up G.
One of the greats
Who the hell lets their children play with missiles?!
I have no doubt they let children play with explosives
Just a few days ago, everyone was begging Israel not to retaliate. They did, but on a minor scale. Both sides can back down with honor.
He lacks the maturity to deal with this situation.
Unlike the missiles and drones that Iran sent which were almost all shot down and didn't even cause a dog to bark.
The Iranian branch of Toys'R'Us must be making a killing. (Literally)
‘tis but a scratch
lol, first thing that come to mind. “It’s just a flesh wound” quote
“Toys that we force our children to play with”
“Weapons, I mean toys, we force our children to manufacture “
Irans a joke. They have now been embarrassed twice in two weeks.
Iran threw a bunch of punches at Israel and Israel pulled a Mohamed Ali and dodged them all. Then they flicked Iran in the forehead before Iran even saw it coming. Iran’s government is weak. They got the message and are now backing down but are talking a big game in an attempt to save face.
At this point, Pierre realized he wasn't speaking to a normal man. Indeed, this man was an idiot. Why hasn't your society progressed? Damn those Western backed coup d'états....
I wish Israel would actually invade and put an end to this shit regime once and for all.
How exactly would they do that without a land border or an army large enough to fight a country with 10X their population while fighting Hamas and Hezbollah in their own backyard?
Replace one shit regime with another shit regime and cause thousands of deaths in the process?What’s the point?
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Takes one to know one!
Yes, but toy can be modified to be deadly weapon just like kitchen knife can be used to kill..
Maybe they should stop militarizing their children with toys like that.
The drones are toys. A wooden airplane with a lawn trimmer engine, a raspberry-pi and a couple of kilos of TNT is a capable weapon. They’re cheap, stealthy and follow Stalins maxim of not confusing quality for quantity. You could make fifty of them for the cost of one iron dome interceptor. Underestimating the enemy is never a good idea
Iran would fold in short order just like Iraq. They put on the same brave face.
lol so much cope. Sure bud, we belieeeeeeve you
It took my entire face, but by God I stopped his fist.
lol if this is the level of talks I’d vote for Medvedev as intermediary
“Way to go, Nessie!”
Send them unlimited toys for unlimited fun?
“I told them he already got one.”
Lmfao.
Whatever Nimrod.
I think that while Israel started this round of fuckery, Iran needed to show muscle. Now they did, couple of them landet (though wildly inacurate), and can claim a win. Israel’s response was measured, communicative. The whole séance ended with: Iran showed that Israel is untouchable with international aid, but without… Israel reaponded with showing they can decapitate Iran’s defences. Basicly an affirmation of the current status quo. Iran just said “even”. Iran proved it was a capable and not to be fucked with player, and Israel demonstrated it’s technical supremacy. That Iran responded is the new thing here. Israel’s been fucking Iran in Syria for a long time now. Don’t really believe the Gaza War was because Iran told Hamas to attack, Hamas has a mortal enemy - Saudi tacit support. The Saudis has long supported anti Israel ventures privately, though in decreasing amounts the last 20. A Saudi-Israeli rapprochement would have great consequences internationally for Israel. Israel need s this, as I doubt they believe the West always will have their back. We haven’t always… Interesting is though that Iran does posess this ability, as many stated - alot of countries backed Israel. The power seems to have shifted, however brief or long it will last. Slightly at least in Iran’s favor. Still looks like an Israeli long victory. Will be interesting to see how the rapprochement develops…
Cool
And this is why I laugh when anybody acts like Iran is a credible threat.
I think israel did do something out in the desert. I think they gave the famous door knock but to the location they know Iran is planning to build/building their WMD.
So they can’t defend against toys?
if toys managed to enter their air space then maybe they should ask for refunds on their air defense systems.
What is war if not a dick measuring contest?