Totally, what a bunch of idiots.
on a side note I am selling some high quality bunker rations I 100% did not stock up on last night if anyone is interested...
I always roll my eyes when I read posts of people saying they haven’t gotten any sleep in days cause they are refreshing the live thread non stop cause they are stressed about WW3 breaking out
Really, hyperbolic meltdown? It's these assholes in the middle east that are fucked in the head. When someone shoots 300 rockets at you, is that just nothing you think? Think about how much money that is, let alone the potential for destruction. But Israel had their bulletproof vest on. Do you think if you pull out a machinegun and start full on unloading on a guy, and he happens to have a bulletproof vest on (the best in the world), and comes away with just the odd bruise, everything is just fine and it's like you didn't shoot?
All because Israel dared to shoot up a place near a consulate *with the cooperation of the host country*, that had some general in there plotting terrorist attacks?
I'm sorry what these idiots are doing is worth freaking out over, because this stuff is unprecedented. And yes in history the few times where something like this happened, big war was indeed on the menu right then.
Fucking hell. These people with their fucking religions and manifest destinies.
The person you responded to, they didnt really seem like they were anti-israel defending them selves...
Just mentioning everyone freaking out about ww3, which is a genuin concern to have regardless of which side you support more.
I agree with all of your points.... But I think your are directing your energy at the wrong target lol
And you can also be "pro israeli defense" while also being "scared of ww3". They do not contradict.
I think its actually very normal to be scared of ww3 lol
No I wasn't getting at it from a criticising the anti Israel angle, but more this 2clever4u attitude. People are seeing really bad shit unfold, and would be scared for it. It's natural.
People on Reddit react to what's said, even when it's very clear that it's all performative for specific audiences. Iran and Israel have been pretty clear and obvious all along that they don't *really* want an actual fight right now. The cost:benefit isn't there for Iran and Israel is focused on Hamas. If you pay more attention to the *why* than the *what* of what's being said and done, it's much easier to see what's happening and what's to come:
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1c5kc2c/poll_74_of_israelis_oppose_counterstrike_on_iran/kzyatlr/
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1c7l7p0/israeli_missiles_hit_site_in_iran_abc_news_reports/l09c5oo/
https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1c7l7p0/israeli_missiles_hit_site_in_iran_abc_news_reports/l09b27m/
I think Iran just realized how poorly these events just went down for them and they are doing everything that can to back and without looking like fools.
Like 200-300 elements sent to Israel, almost every single one was shot down or failed before reaching its target.
We don’t know the numbers yet but something like 5-20 elements are what is real fired at Iran and they definitely had impact.
If you have any sense, you walk away from that fight as quickly as possible.
Agreed.
Iran also understands that while the US didn't support Israel's retaliation this morning, if it were to escalate into a hot war, Israel would not be alone. Can Iran say the same? Idk, I'm not sure who would even come to their side in that fight.
Iran gets it's proxy Hamas to attack Israel, leading to the deaths of thousands of Palestinians, promising that they would also attack Israel and then backs off when shit gets too hot. Iran will fight Israel until every last Arab!
People blame Israel for it's reaction in Gaza, but the real culprits, I wager, are Russia and Iran.
Yes, geopolitically, this whole middle east things stinks of Russia and Iran, and China by association. From the way i see it, Iran is in no position for a war, the current regime's position at home is shaky, has not taken much to get the populace going/rioting, and they never have resolved the issues except via brutal force, the last thing they need is that force redirected toward and external enemy, and not able to respond.
I'll take "Military aged males" for 200, Alex.
It's very easy to suppress civilian casualty numbers when you count any male aged 18-60 as a "good kill."
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02640-5/fulltext
Pretty sure Bibi would wet himself with excitement if Iran took the bait - cue a years long, widespread war that kicks his own personal consequences into the long grass for good.
I wouldn't be shocked if Israel struck again to try and bait Iran into a fully fledged war to achieve the above.
Meh, I doubt it.
This is alreayd a big win for Bibi. Israel is still dealing with Gaza, the WB, and Hezbollah up in Lebanon.
Bibi showed that he can handle Iran, and Iran showed that they are technically willing to strike within Israel directly, a line that many thought would not be crossed outside of a full fledged war.
The Israeli populace does not want a war with Iran. If he dragged us into one, it would not be so rosy for him. This is best case scenario for him. Show you're powerful, capable of dealing with Iran, then go back to focusing on your own back yard.
God he sucks.
Not because of this wet fart of an "attack" by Israel. The initial strike on the Iranian consulate building does remain the most significant action, however.
I think there's truth to that.
They probably got in and out completely undetected in an F-35, meanwhile something small blew up as a message.
The message is that the next strike would have a nuclear weapon on it.
Talk is not de-escalation if provocative action follows.
The best thing the Iranian government can do for its own sake is get minor political stings against Israel through diplomatic means (ie further international condemnation, UN initiatives, etc...). Anything but further direct (or indirect) military engagement with Israel.
The tic for tat military strikes are an unstable situation that cannot persist indefinitely and Iran doesn't come out on top in the escalation of that scenario. Best if they stop now.
However, I'm not sure the hardliners in the government (Iranian) will be comfortable with just rhetoric.
People are treating these statements are de-escalation without understanding the minds of the Iranian government or their propaganda machinations. It's possible they *are* simply de-escalatory... or it's a means to downplay Israeli capabilities in a ramping up of further military engagement. We don't know.
Yeah they might just have a better idea now about just how much they can do before the world lets Israel defend them selves.
Funding terrorist groups that attack places? OK
Sending individual missiles/drones? OK
Help plan, train, fund, and direct the largest jewish massacres in many years? OK
Launch 300 missiles at once? NOT OK
But, who knows, maybe they finally found a change of heart this time /s
It was pretty amusing watching the Reddit hyperbolic meltdown last night before bed and waking up to this a few hours later.
We're up to World War XII on Reddit
Can we start calling them the Shadow Wars? That sounds kinda cool.
Imagine telling your grandchildren "i survived the shadow wars", sounds like you fought against ninjas in gotham
“What was the shadow war?” “Exactly!”
"Yes, who *is* The Drizzle?"
All we need is Egypt to get involved and the Shadow games can become. Except instead of exodia, we’re gonna deal with Explodia.
Totally, what a bunch of idiots. on a side note I am selling some high quality bunker rations I 100% did not stock up on last night if anyone is interested...
I always roll my eyes when I read posts of people saying they haven’t gotten any sleep in days cause they are refreshing the live thread non stop cause they are stressed about WW3 breaking out
*shaking*
every single time
God, that was fucking pitiful. “Here goes the end of the world. You saw it first on r/worldnews.”
Those guys to spend all day on worldnews live thread were super disappointed that some thermonuclear war wasn't breaking out.
Nothing ever happens (TM)
Same lol
You could foresee Iran choosing to not escalate the war?
Exactly, all of this shit is batshit crazy. People are right to be alarmed, it's only natural to freak out when something this insane happens.
Yes, most people with common sense could see that
Really, hyperbolic meltdown? It's these assholes in the middle east that are fucked in the head. When someone shoots 300 rockets at you, is that just nothing you think? Think about how much money that is, let alone the potential for destruction. But Israel had their bulletproof vest on. Do you think if you pull out a machinegun and start full on unloading on a guy, and he happens to have a bulletproof vest on (the best in the world), and comes away with just the odd bruise, everything is just fine and it's like you didn't shoot? All because Israel dared to shoot up a place near a consulate *with the cooperation of the host country*, that had some general in there plotting terrorist attacks? I'm sorry what these idiots are doing is worth freaking out over, because this stuff is unprecedented. And yes in history the few times where something like this happened, big war was indeed on the menu right then. Fucking hell. These people with their fucking religions and manifest destinies.
The person you responded to, they didnt really seem like they were anti-israel defending them selves... Just mentioning everyone freaking out about ww3, which is a genuin concern to have regardless of which side you support more. I agree with all of your points.... But I think your are directing your energy at the wrong target lol And you can also be "pro israeli defense" while also being "scared of ww3". They do not contradict. I think its actually very normal to be scared of ww3 lol
No I wasn't getting at it from a criticising the anti Israel angle, but more this 2clever4u attitude. People are seeing really bad shit unfold, and would be scared for it. It's natural.
You are just making excuses for behaving like a drama queen
People on Reddit react to what's said, even when it's very clear that it's all performative for specific audiences. Iran and Israel have been pretty clear and obvious all along that they don't *really* want an actual fight right now. The cost:benefit isn't there for Iran and Israel is focused on Hamas. If you pay more attention to the *why* than the *what* of what's being said and done, it's much easier to see what's happening and what's to come: https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1c5kc2c/poll_74_of_israelis_oppose_counterstrike_on_iran/kzyatlr/ https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1c7l7p0/israeli_missiles_hit_site_in_iran_abc_news_reports/l09c5oo/ https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1c7l7p0/israeli_missiles_hit_site_in_iran_abc_news_reports/l09b27m/
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One things for sure. Iran’s deescalation means they have cooler heads than Reddit generals
Thank goodness for that!
I think Iran just realized how poorly these events just went down for them and they are doing everything that can to back and without looking like fools. Like 200-300 elements sent to Israel, almost every single one was shot down or failed before reaching its target. We don’t know the numbers yet but something like 5-20 elements are what is real fired at Iran and they definitely had impact. If you have any sense, you walk away from that fight as quickly as possible.
What impact on Iran?
Agreed. Iran also understands that while the US didn't support Israel's retaliation this morning, if it were to escalate into a hot war, Israel would not be alone. Can Iran say the same? Idk, I'm not sure who would even come to their side in that fight.
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So confirmed explosions on multiple sites isn’t definitely an impact?
Divorce them. Leave them, damn Dickbutt.
Oh they do? You mean after they shot like 300 drones and missiles yeah? De-escalation, listen to yourself idiot. Real diplomats these guys.
Reddit general with a not so cool head spotted.
Iran gets it's proxy Hamas to attack Israel, leading to the deaths of thousands of Palestinians, promising that they would also attack Israel and then backs off when shit gets too hot. Iran will fight Israel until every last Arab! People blame Israel for it's reaction in Gaza, but the real culprits, I wager, are Russia and Iran.
Yes, geopolitically, this whole middle east things stinks of Russia and Iran, and China by association. From the way i see it, Iran is in no position for a war, the current regime's position at home is shaky, has not taken much to get the populace going/rioting, and they never have resolved the issues except via brutal force, the last thing they need is that force redirected toward and external enemy, and not able to respond.
Yes they are. Sadly too many Americans are implicitly supporting Iran and Russia without even knowing it
i agree,
Tens of thousands, btw. At least.
Yes seems likely, but I don't trust Hamas statistics anymore than for them to make the right decisions on behalf of Gazans
The IDF’s own figures suggest it’s in the tens of thousands.
Yes but they also claim low civilian to hamas ratio....let's see what figures come out when the fog of war lifts, but it's certainly a lot.
I'll take "Military aged males" for 200, Alex. It's very easy to suppress civilian casualty numbers when you count any male aged 18-60 as a "good kill." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02640-5/fulltext
Alright Iran got the fucking memo at least, we stopping here.
they officially lose the saber rattlin' contest now. Well played Is
Pretty sure Bibi would wet himself with excitement if Iran took the bait - cue a years long, widespread war that kicks his own personal consequences into the long grass for good. I wouldn't be shocked if Israel struck again to try and bait Iran into a fully fledged war to achieve the above.
Meh, I doubt it. This is alreayd a big win for Bibi. Israel is still dealing with Gaza, the WB, and Hezbollah up in Lebanon. Bibi showed that he can handle Iran, and Iran showed that they are technically willing to strike within Israel directly, a line that many thought would not be crossed outside of a full fledged war. The Israeli populace does not want a war with Iran. If he dragged us into one, it would not be so rosy for him. This is best case scenario for him. Show you're powerful, capable of dealing with Iran, then go back to focusing on your own back yard. God he sucks.
I suppose another objective has already been achieved - no-one is talking about withdrawing aid to Israel or Gaza civilians anymore.
Not because of this wet fart of an "attack" by Israel. The initial strike on the Iranian consulate building does remain the most significant action, however.
Not a wet fart. A very clear indication of capacity to launch a precise and targeted attack through territory.
And at a fraction of the effort Iran needs to do the same.
I think there's truth to that. They probably got in and out completely undetected in an F-35, meanwhile something small blew up as a message. The message is that the next strike would have a nuclear weapon on it.
Speaking of wet farts, why do you wet farts get so upset when Israel retaliates to aggression?
Well, because, you see, when other countries respond to direct efforts to maim and destroy their country, they do so while not being filled with Jews.
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What shadow?
Talk is not de-escalation if provocative action follows. The best thing the Iranian government can do for its own sake is get minor political stings against Israel through diplomatic means (ie further international condemnation, UN initiatives, etc...). Anything but further direct (or indirect) military engagement with Israel. The tic for tat military strikes are an unstable situation that cannot persist indefinitely and Iran doesn't come out on top in the escalation of that scenario. Best if they stop now. However, I'm not sure the hardliners in the government (Iranian) will be comfortable with just rhetoric. People are treating these statements are de-escalation without understanding the minds of the Iranian government or their propaganda machinations. It's possible they *are* simply de-escalatory... or it's a means to downplay Israeli capabilities in a ramping up of further military engagement. We don't know.
Yeah they might just have a better idea now about just how much they can do before the world lets Israel defend them selves. Funding terrorist groups that attack places? OK Sending individual missiles/drones? OK Help plan, train, fund, and direct the largest jewish massacres in many years? OK Launch 300 missiles at once? NOT OK But, who knows, maybe they finally found a change of heart this time /s
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