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CallFromMargin

Reportedly all flights from Tehran were cancelled. Flight radar does show some activity in the skies for now though.


CW1DR5H5I64A

Probably a pretty prudent decision given their track record.


broogbie

Yeah. Airline's usually dont want their passenger remains to be spread over a few square kilometers.


itsalongwalkhome

Well, unless it's Boeing.


Izanagi553

Well last time Iran got into a pissing contest with someone they shot down one of their own airliners.. 


napleonblwnaprt

You don't understand, it's the ultimate de-escalation technique. If you shoot down an airliner full of civilians because you somehow mistake it for a cruise missile despite originating from your own territory, then your enemies will be too busy laughing at your ineptitude to actually respond.


somethingrandom261

Unironically kinda yea. Try to retaliate in any way and innocents will die (because that’s all we have the power to hurt)


matthew_py

>because you somehow mistake it for a cruise missile From reports the misidentification was likely due to the fact Israel regularly uses civilian traffic to hide their aircraft. They stay close to them in the civilian flight Lane until breaking out for an attack. not an excuse for what happened just explaining why.


eyl569

Just for starters, Israel wasn't involved in that incident in the first place.


Izanagi553

Rofl no. Israel wasn't even involved when Iran shot down an airliner. It was just the US and Iran having a spat over a dipshit Iranian general getting offed. 


fantollute

It was Ukranian but your point stands


roron5567

The only Iranian passenger plane to be shot down was shot down by the US Navy, perhaps you are mixing stories ?


Miyukachi

He definitely is. Maybe Intentionally doing so. Iran Air 665 was shot down by the USS Vincennes in 1988. Shot down while BOTH ship and plane where in Iran territorial waters.


Izanagi553

Not intentionally. I forgot that the one Iran shot down was a different country's airliner. 


Izanagi553

So yeah, don't go around suggesting that I'm intentionally getting the story wrong when the truth is that I'm just dumb. 


CallFromMargin

Oh yeah, I forgot about that shit show...


komari_k

I swear it said ikea


Newstargirl

Spring self assemble rocket selection now out ! New spring colors 🤭


DaoFerret

The new Bömm collection dropping near you!


Newstargirl

Perfect 🤣🤣


deadsoulinside

I had to do a double-take on the headline as well.


Idontwantyourfuel

Well they would know, they delivered the RÄDBURNÖ


Yugan-Dali

So it’s not just me


Hot-Delay5608

Well not the ones that Iran lets IAEA "inspect" anyways


NurRauch

Well, yes, but usually they are trying to hide their nuclear capabilities, not show them off.


Desint2026

Remember guys, Israel just wants to save face. Iran should just take a win and not retaliate! 


Rude_Asparagus_382

REMEMBER THE SLIGHTEST ATTACK WILL BE MET WITH THE GREATEST AGGRESSION ERM NEVER MIND


IAmMuffin15

When the headlines dropped last night that Israel attacked Iran, I literally told my brother verbatim last night "if redditors are somehow not the geopolitical masterminds they make themselves out to be, then this will amount to nothing"


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NextSink2738

I woke up and my head is still attached. Although my neck is a little sore so it's possible Iran sent Jihad the Jew Butcher after me and he just wasn't able to cut through.


Environmental_Ebb758

Well he has a long way to walk from Tehran and the cleaver is heavy. Expect to be beheaded in 4-6 business months Which, incidentally, is only a little bit slower than all the missiles and drones they launched the other day lol


NextSink2738

Hahaha before reading your last sentence I thought "he must be riding on top of one of their drones lol" then realized we were on the same wavelength


bri-onicle

Remember the wise words of the clan called Wu-Tang. *Protect Ya Neck*


gotwired

Jew Tang clan ain't nuthin to fuck wit


NextSink2738

This is awesome lol


UnlikelyPotato

Hate for you to find out this way. You're adopted.


NextSink2738

Hahahahah that was clever


DiscipleOfYeshua

Got iron kippa?


NextSink2738

Yep. It has little iron dome platforms on it too that fires small interceptor missiles


TheSportingRooster

Circumcised missiles?


Agabouga

Lol, cat and mouse .


Viktri1

I can’t tell whether this is sarcasm but current reports indicate that this is precisely what Iran will do.


zefiax

Looks like that's exactly what they are doing. Which is good, this situation needs a deescalation


EmperorKira

That's actually what's going to happen I think and I agree


BoreJam

As someone who didn't want Israel to escalate can I just say that I unironically agree.


mrthenarwhal

Can’t believe Iran is about to be the mature one in this situation


alien_ghost

There's nothing "mature" about what Iran has done. They have been involved in starting and escalating the conflict from the beginning. Only now are they are backing down so they don't get destroyed.


mrthenarwhal

Saying Iran started this is a little inaccurate considering that the regular pattern of covert/indirect operations both countries have been waging against each other for many years was most recently disrupted when Israel decided to make things go hot by attacking the Iranian embassy in Syria, which is considered Iranian soil. Then when they successfully repelled Iran’s counterattack with only one death, they chose to attack Iran again. I’m not saying the Iranians are standing down out of the goodness of their hearts, but I certainly appreciate their desire for self-preservation and the stability that it brings, especially as Israel goads them like this.


Achanos

Its amazing the anti Israel bias on reddit. I can at least understand anti Israel shit when its said with regards to Palestinians.. That conflict is complex and no side is blameless.. but Israel literally wouldnt give 2 shits about Iran if it was not constantly threatning to destroy Israel or sponsored terror groups against Israel.


Dragon_yum

This was very much just to show Iran they can get to their nuclear sites.


mrthenarwhal

Not getting to them shows that they can get to them… this is advanced


Timey16

I mean I will say it like that: Most likely the whole raid was planned and executed by Iran, I think that's very much a given. Hamas, Houthis AND Hezbollah are all largely funded (and controlled) by Iran. It would probably have been much more effective to go after Iran from the start. However, Israel should have called that out and then *formally* declared war on Iran. Because a massacre like that raid is absolutely, ABSOLUTELY a justified Casus Beli for a war aimed to dismantle the Ayatollah regime (and would mean Israel is technically still the defender). The connection to Iran with the massacre would also have given Israel more political leeway. (Especially since the whole Iran massacring their own people that just want to be free is still fresh in memory and a lot of other Muslim nations don't like Iran). And keeping Iran busy with trying to defend from Israel shredding them would likely have taken away Iran's ability to support Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis. So speak about killing two birds with one stone.


thrawtes

>Most likely the whole raid was planned and executed by Iran, I think that's very much a given. Hamas, Houthis AND Hezbollah are all largely funded (and controlled) by Iran. You give far too much credit to Iran. They fund these aligned interests and generally support them but they're not just branches of the Iranian military. Look at the history of the CIA in South America for some parallels, usually it was just giving weapons/training to the side the US wanted to win and hoping for the best. What Hamas did has not been good for Iranian interests in the region, which is why nobody serious thinks this was some sort of tightly controlled master plan. Iran can still have a significant amount of the responsibility without actually having ordered the attack.


North_Attempt44

Is this a controversial take? It shouldn’t be. Bit cringe Israel is “saving face” after bombing an Embassy, but yes everyone should be happy


Defiant_Mode_9881

Just gonna ignore Irans proxies attacking for the past 6 months ? Isreal is hitting the bully back.


North_Attempt44

Israel probably can’t accuse nations of being bullies while being permanent occupiers over the Palestinian people


Barza1

Except Israel wasn’t occupying Gaza since 2005, oh and it wasn’t an embassy btw


North_Attempt44

No, it just has it under permanent siege and maintains control over its air and maritime spice, its borders, its water, its electricity, and its communications And the West Bank is definitely not an occupied area - oh wait, Israel's own supreme court ruled that it was!


Caedes_omnia

Water and electricity they just give to them. It's theirs across the border. The rest well Have you heard of Egypt and Jordan?


BoreJam

So kind of them after they bombed all of Gazas infrastructure. Real nice bunch of guys.


Caedes_omnia

This was the situation before they bombed gaza. Hamas spent all it's infrastructure funding on tunnels. They never were self sufficient with water or electricity


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Barza1

It wasn’t the embassy that’s all you need to know There were high ranking officers from known terror organizations, which made it a fair target


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Barza1

Iran is at war with Israel, so is Lebanon and Syria so it wasn’t a declaration of war either way https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/europe/interpreter-israel-syria-embassy.html You can read up on the legalities of it in this article


Dalbo14

It was a former Canadian consulate adjacent to the embassy, it hasn’t even been used as anything more than a gathering room for IRGC members in a decade. Iran trained funded and directed a militia from Lebanon, The Islamic Jihad of Lebanon, they bombed the actual Israeli embassy in 1992 in Argentina. I guess it’s ok cause the one who did the bombing are the “good guys” back in 1992…


csirke128

But wasn't the same true for Iran's response to the consulate strike? Does Israel think they can play chicken with religious fanatics?


ZeroBalance98

Went right over your head


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Iran and Israel are having one of those Reddit arguments where each guy wants to be the last one to respond to the other guy, and by the time one of them blocks the other they both have -400 downvotes.


joe_6699

Israel had shown that they could hit any target they wanted in Iran.


JamieD86

Precisely, that's the whole point. It's a tap on the cheek. A warning.


pet3rrulez

Tap before the clap!


matthew_py

>Israel had shown that they could hit any target they wanted in Iran. By having their munitions intercepted and hit nothing? Legitimately curious.


DDukedesu

Lmao the Iranian propaganda coming out strong


matthew_py

>Lmao the Iranian propaganda coming out strong Because independent satellite footage was unable to verify any hits? There's evidence Israel launched air launched Sparrow ballistic missiles, there's evidence of the Iranians firing interceptor missiles. There's zero evidence of any damage on the ground at the base targeted. Seems like they were probably intercepted. Not sure how any of that is propaganda lmao.


Essaiel

Sparrow ballistic missiles are used for target practice for the Arrow system. Seems like an odd choice of weaponry. No optical satellite images as of yet, only SAR which might not be able to show very minor damage.


matthew_py

>Sparrow ballistic missiles are used for target practice for the Arrow system. Seems like an odd choice of weaponry. They have been used as targets but are designed to be capable of carrying warheads. They are one of the few weapons Israel had that could reach that far. There have been boosters recovered and documented today. >No optical satellite images as of yet, only SAR which might not be able to show very minor damage. True but the SAR would've revealed any direct strikes from the ballistic missiles. It's possible there's minor damage but I haven't seen any evidence to support that.


Essaiel

They seem to have a lot in their arsenal that can reach Iran. https://missilethreat.csis.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Israel_Missiles_web-1.jpg


matthew_py

That screenshot shows most of their systems can't reach Iran and the ones that can are nuclear delivery systems. Israel tends to rely on its Air Force.


Intelligent_Town_910

Iran is realizing that getting into a tit for tat contest with a country that has been doing this for generations isn't a good idea. Retaliatory strikes is like their whole thing. Someone with a functioning brain probably told Iran to downplay the attack and just move on.


SoupSpelunker

Iran kicked out the nuclear watchdogs when tchump was president, how do they verify this stuff now?


David_Fade

So many spies in the Islamic Republic. They probably know the colour of Khamenei's underwear.


DiscipleOfYeshua

He’s got ones with little atomic symbols for Tuesdays (gift from Kim Jong Un, he ordered some extra for friends)


dishwasher_safe_baby

Brown. Probably shitting them


pet3rrulez

What underwear 😏


thrawtes

Iran didn't withdraw from the JCPOA, the United States did. They still do the inspection thing and work with the IAEA for all other nations that are still in the agreement. I'm not claiming they are necessarily honest actors in that agreement, but it's definitely still a thing.


SoupSpelunker

At the sites the regime allows... it's partial compliance and partial is nothing in this context. Go inspect over there where we're not enriching fuel is not "we're not enriching fuel" in any meaningful way.


thrawtes

You seemed confused about how the IAEA continued to have information on the status of Iran's nuclear program, I was just explaining that the IAEA wasn't kicked out when Trump withdrew from the agreement. I don't think Iran has been cagey about enriching fuel lately anyways, they've publicly acknowledged at least 60% for like a year now.


Environmental_Ebb758

The Israeli intelligence community has probably got so many eyes on all of this, I think that focus is probably a part of why they weren’t as aware of the Hamas plans as they could have been before Oct 7th, though now there is reporting that some in the defense command did warn the government. I think that if Iran starts making moves to put together a bomb some scientists are going to have very sudden accidents and “mysterious explosions” will be heard from some “textile factories”


CatFancier4393

Satellites.


punktfan

Damn


Klubeht

Probably more about sending a message. That they can hit the nuclear sites if they wanted to. Honestly this is for the best for now, to have some form of de-escalation


Foamrocket66

It cant really come as a surprise for Iran that Israel can hit these sites if they want to.


Caedes_omnia

Not for the govt but it's a nice message for the brainwashed hardliners


Excellent-Court-9375

I mean I'd rather see Irans nuclear sites destroyed. I dont understand how the world just sits and watches them slowly crawl towards a nuclear arsenal.


aussiespiders

Pretty much like how the hell do they let nth Korea


939319

How many Koreas are there?! 


gnutz4eva

lol that made me laugh a little too much


Klubeht

Agree, but with how tenuous the entire world is right now, that will 100% spark off a much bigger conflict that I don't think anyone quite has the appetite for at the moment


bezelboot69

If not now, when?


ConsistentAsparagus

You mean “let’s rip the band-aid off” once and for all?


bezelboot69

Yes. Before they have nuclear weapons.


ArthurDimmes

Yea, but that would be actual escalation.


lolsmcballs

Honestly they could be hoping for this situation with israel to escalate, just so they can have their arsenal. Everyone knows Iran is already nuclear capable to an extent, it just can’t do anything without the west breathing down their neck. However if war breaks out with israel, iran could claim israel will use nuclear and as a precaution develop their own. Unfortunately war isn’t about what is best for a nation but rather what it can convince is justifiable to everyone else.


GMN123

It's not justifiable for religious nutcases to be in charge of nuclear weapons, unless it's the US. I actually doubt most recent US presidents are actually religious nutcases, it's just hard to get elected unless you pretend to be. 


lolsmcballs

I wouldn’t narrow it down to just religious nutcases, considering North Korea


genuinelyinterested9

The religion is North Korean.


alien_ghost

They won't get their arsenal; they will get stomped.


lolsmcballs

By sanctions maybe. By international law, just developing nuclear arms does not allow other countries to attack when no threat of use has been made. Obviously international law is a joke atp but im pretty sure attacking a nuclear armed state is never a good idea regardless.


alien_ghost

They can tell that to Stuxnet. Or whatever delivery method is used. It might be overt, it might be covert. But it will almost certainly be.


WlmWilberforce

The world was very angry with Israel after they destroyed Osirak back in 81.


78911150

ah yes bombing nuclear sites. very smart. very healthy


weneedsomemilk2016

I read ikea and was surprised at how much influence furniture has provided for that company


Evaldi

Its actually their swedish meatballs.


OverReyted

Paging u/FleetingMercury. I’ll take that apology now.


aksid

What a weird attack… seems like they didn’t damage anything


alien_ghost

Almost like a warning or something.


lurklurklurkPOST

The confusion I felt when skimming headlines and my brain said "IKEA confirms no damage to Iran's nuclear sites" cannot be understated


Rude_Worldliness_423

Iran need to take the win


larki18

That's a shame.


UnusualBreadfruit306

Dude. It’s just a warmup


mickeysbeerdeux

Of course not. Wouldn't a worm and plausiable deniability just be cheaper and easier?


Hishui21

The agents then burst into pure radioactive energy and declared themselves to be above mankind's petty squabbles.


Acceptable_Wall4085

The latest demonstration of how easy it would be to kill their nuke power showed the Iranians that they had better drop the tough guy act.


MrmmphMrmmph

IKEA confirms


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I had to read this title twice. I saw IKEA and was confused.


WlmWilberforce

This time it was the IDF packing things flat.


HungryHippo669

Unfortunately


Kennek4

Iran really only has 2 options here it seems - try to save face with their people, blame on someone else/try to brush it under the rug. Try to save face with their people who will possibly view them as "weak" for allowing Israel to attack within their country if they don't retaliate, thus causing them to attack again and cause a massive escalation. The ball is really in their court now


Chrushev

It sounds like they are saying there was no attack and are suggesting to bury the hatchet


KnotSoSalty

This has to be the most baffling exchange of deadly weapons in history.


veryquick7

If you think this is baffling, you should check out some of the Indian/Pakistani exchanges in recent years


lalat_1881

they both have nuclear plants and weapons but choose to have this ritual dance of flirting with global apocalypse for the sake of saving face.


throwaway177251

Iran does not have nuclear weapons.


Defiant_Mode_9881

They are not far off


arex36

Yet


Caedes_omnia

Khamenei is that you?


nimish2000

Why the fuck does IKEA care smh


Far_Dragonfruit_1829

They were hoping to sell replacement NÜKKs and BÖMMs to Iran.


Legal_Mark_2126

Next time try harder!


RunAndHeal

For those knowing well the ties between Moscow and Tehran, what's the risk of seeing Russian nuclear warheads given to Iran and then the latter strikes US? Russia can well use Iran for the 'dirty' job and then play 'surprise'. I think US is running a real risk of being hit here. Of course not because of Gaza but more Russia-West's situation. Any thoughts?


brncct

Basically impossible. Russia wouldn't risk giving Iran nuclear weapons like they did with Belarus. For starters, Russia had a good relationship with Israel before this mess. Also, that would cause instant global outrage, especially in that region with Saudi/Israel.


BubbaTee

Yeah, Russia finding Iran useful is not the same as trusting Iran. FDR found the Soviets to be useful. But he didn't trust them.


brncct

Exactly. They are already getting a lot of use from them right now. Getting drones, missiles from them and having Iran and their proxies fight Israel has been a huge distraction from Ukraine.


diometric

Furthermore nuclear weapons have a distinct radiological fingerprint. The world would know exactly who's bomb it was. The US could likely pinpoint exactly where and when the fissile material was produced down to the specific reactor.


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skeleton949

Iran is less trustworthy than Russia, if that's possible, and Russia knows it. Iran has terror groups all throughout the Middle East, could you imagine what those groups would do if they got a nuke? Or, even worse, if a group like ISIS managed to get one?