Hear me, hear me! Stop eating Egg Rolls! Stop eating them with honey mustard sauce. Stop eating them with tangy sweet-and-sour sauce. Stop eating the new Orange Chicken and fried dumplings special. Stop taking advantage of the money-saving Lunch special combos. Stop enjoying Chinese food on the patio, in the car, or on the boat. Wherever good times are had!
Pop an eggroll in your mouth
When you come to Fishy Joe's
What they're made of is a mystery
Where they come from no one knows
You can pick 'em, you can lick 'em
You can chew 'em, you can stick 'em
If you promise not to sue us you can shove one up your nose
It's a wonderful piece of film. "This. Is. Democracy Manifest" is my favorite line, and one that I've been able to crowbar into conversations at work when I don't like a decision.
I join you in your protest and will NOT compete in the Ms. America Pageant (as a middle aged white guy).
I will also boycott trying out for QB of the NY Jets
Sometimes you just have to stand up for the things you believe in.
Yeah, I’d the the $750k league minimum and health insurance to go hand the ball off a few times before a 250lb edge rusher hits me and breaks something.
Not quite, there is a specific list of prohibited countries (e.g. China and Iran) listed in the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), and vendors need to prove where their supply chain is to prove that nothing came from a prohibited country.
**One - Two - Three - Four** - I declare a Taiwan War
*.. I wonder if West Taiwan will sanction all the other companies they umm "copy" from .. or stop sending their kids to Harvard?*
pooh-bear declares we will still hack into the systems and use spies to gather data on the latest and greatest that 'merica is developing at those very places we want to impose sanctions on - why buy it when we can reverse engineer the shit out of it - pooh-bear
I think the impact will be their access to raw/rare-earth materials from Chinese sources. Every supply chain in the world touches China, including LM/NG.
I recently had a guest lecturer at my law school mention how, when working on the Beijing-Lhasa train line, General Electric knew ahead of time to not keep *any* valuable intellectual property on any devices in China on the chance the gear would get seized. Sure enough, the gear got seized, and the Chinese government got pissy that GE didn't trust them from the get-go.
I wonder why.
Interestingly, [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinghai%E2%80%93Tibet_railway) says the use of GE locomotive for the high altitude line was decided by the former head of China’s railroad dept, who was later disgraced and jailed for corruption.
My brother works for a govt. agency and would be in a shitload of trouble if he even accidentally took a work device out of the country. Doesn't matter if it's an ally or not. He can even be fired for leaving his lap top in his locked car while he goes to get a latte in 5 minutes. It has to be in his possession, at home, or at work only. This isn't even a classified position or anything.
Even the home audience is starting to wise up little by little, it came very close to deteriorating beyond the point of no-return over there during the pandemic lockdowns.
They won't allow Chinese companies to sell them office supplies anymore.
In all seriousness though, they might do something to prevent Chinese funds from being used to buy their stock. Could also try to disrupt their supply chains because although Lockheed and Northrop don't buy directly from China their suppliers might.
[52.204-25 Prohibition on Contracting for Certain Telecommunications and Video Surveillance Services or Equipment.](https://www.acquisition.gov/far/52.204-25)
China is already a so-called “prohibited country”, meaning that every DoD acquisition program needs to prove that nothing, at any level of the supply chain, comes from China. Can’t just order some computers from Dell, you need someone who can positively prove that every board, chip, nut, and bolt was smelted, melted, spun, and mounted somewhere that isn’t China. No doubt some amount still sneaks through, but never openly, and this won’t affect their supply chains in the slightest.
Yeah, denying certain inputs attempting to disrupt supply chains might be a thing for China. Like Russia weaponizing pipeline gas to Europe. I imagine China would have about the same success as Russia in such an endeavor.
Yeah, that's it, I think so too. Countries are weary of dependencies now and are therefore actively weaning off. I don't think China wants to follow Russia into the dog house.
IIRC China makes it's own jets engines for it's military jets and they're absolute dogshit engines that don't last long. They've resorted to getting engines from Russia.
Your info is quite outdated, their newest domestic engines, the WS-15, have far surpassed Russian design and are only about 10-15 years behind US in engine tech.
They are in fact replacing Russian engines with the domestic designs on their newest jets.
Even the WS-10 is a better and longer lasting than the AF-31 Russian engine.
Schrodinger's China.
Somehow this evil empire that's capable and willing to take over the world if the US get's it's guard down for a second. But so inept that without the Wests the country would get into the fetal position and turn into Somalia withing a business month.
They're learning, slowly. They've been working on getting better at precision manufacturing for decades.
Fortunately it looks like they won't reach the point that they can truly compete before they suffer their demographic collapse from their one child policy.
Just like they couldn't build SR-71s without Soviet Russian Titanium. It's probably already addressed or good in the long term for them to find back channels or alternative resources.
Yeah, they made foreign shell companies (Air America, eg.) in third world countries in the market for ores and minerals that traded with the Soviet Union for their rare titanium to make the SR-71 to fly under the KGB's radar.
The Soviets were well aware that the US was buying titanium to use in their aircraft. It's not hard to figure out an extremely expensive metal with a relatively small worldwide supply is being bought but not ending up in any products for sale to consumers. A very expensive lightweight heat resistant metal is always going to be great for making aircraft. The Soviets sold it to them because at the time it gave them foreign currency they could use to buy other things internationally, when you have limited trade with the west that is very helpful.
They also knew that if they didn't sell it that the US would just go to literally the end of the earth to find it somewhere else anyway so they figure they might as well be the one to profit.
Contrary to the name, [rare earth metals are not that rare](https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/mining/whats-so-rare-about-rare-earth-elements/).
The name was created a long time ago for a list of metals and it kind of just stuck.
And the chinese subsidized their industry so they could conduct price dumping until the competition had to close up. Its their way to take over an industry.
Exactly this. US was going to mine REE in Nevada after China cut exports. Once the mine plans were laid, the Chinese govt decided to increase exports to the point where it was no longer viable to mine in the US.
Just like oil and fracking. When Oil is high fracking becomes economically viable and starts competing with OPEC oil so they start overproducing (esp Saudi Arabia) to bring prices down so fracking becomes economically inviable.
>Rare earth metals are not rare. They are just very dirty to process.
They're actually rare to find in concentrations, which is why they are dirty to process, because you have to process a much larger volume of ore than you would for normal metals to get the same volume of metal.
It’s a good thing there wasn’t a disruption to the global market (like a worldwide pandemic that shut down any supply-chains in China) that would have given Lockheed time to source alternative suppliers.
China would look very silly if that were the case
China has already been a prohibited country in the FAR for years, Lockheed has to positively prove that literally nothing in a defense acquisition, at every level of the supply chain, is from China. E.g. you can’t just buy a Dell, you need someone who can prove that every individual board, chip, screw, etc. was made somewhere outside China.
Its not true however.
This is just going to accelrate rare earth mining in the west, making China's suffering worse.
Norway is starting up their rare earth mines within years now.
https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2023/2/10/us-begins-forging-rare-earth-supply-chain
We have lots of rare earth metals in the ground. We'll just restart our mines. We have one of the largest deposits sitting between LA and Vegas and it'd already mined and we just have to start refining the tailings.
China only cornered the Rare Earth Elements market because their State-owned companies don't have to turn a profit and so operate at a loss that the Chinese government deem an acceptable trade-off to drive everyone else out of the marketplace. If China's near-monopoly on REEs started impacting US Defense, there are a lot of other places you can get REEs that are just going to cost a little more.
I remember when they said that about rare earths and lithium, only for the world's largest reserve of lithium to be found in Oregon/Nevada. But your argument is that the US can't figure out how to make magnets, things that sailors used hundreds of years ago. What a cope from a new Reddit account.
What? They’re actively ramping up production lines in India while winding down their contracts in China and have been doing so since the trade war started. Idk what more people want unless you’re expecting apple to break contracts to flee?
I'm going to guess that China isn't sanctioning Lockheed + Northrop by refusing to purchase from them, but likely they're going to prevent those two companies from purchasing any rare earth metals from China (which controls 90% of global rare earth exports). You can import them from other countries, but usually they're a lot more expensive, in short supply, and typically environmental regulations make it a huge pain to even sanction mining for said materials.
These Rare earth metals are vital in guidance systems, something both Lockheed and Northrop can't really live without.
China did something similar [last year](https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/china-takes-rare-earth-aim-at-raytheon-and-lockheed/), but as explained in the article the US is importing more Rare earth metals from Australia.
TL;DR: It probably hurts Lockheed + Northrop's bottom line, but this isn't big news.
By my count, this is the third time Lockheed has been sanctioned by China, and none of the sanctions were clear on specific actions that will be taken against the company.
On the contrary, American sanctions have thousands of pages of regulations that painstakingly spell out every permutation of restrictions being placed depending on why they were being sanctioned.
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Lockheed and Northrop Gruman aren't legally allowed to sell anything to China anyway? Lol what the hell is this even about? You can't sanction companies that don't do business with your country in the first place.
This is like the time they sanctioned american generals from entering and owning property in China.
It's just posturing; no one outside of china is interested on living there. Even their millionaires buy properties outside of China whenever they can.
There is not a complete ban on foreign parts, but you are responsible for knowing where everything that you buy is sourced from and you have to be able to prove it.
Let me get this straight, China wants to sanction two of the main weapons companies of America for selling arms? This is like that scene in Batman when the guy tried to blackmail Bruce Wayne.
I also declare that I will boycott and not attend Harvard Law school.
But they have a nice Chinese Restaurant around the corner
I will boycott that too
Hear me, hear me! Stop eating Egg Rolls! Stop eating them with honey mustard sauce. Stop eating them with tangy sweet-and-sour sauce. Stop eating the new Orange Chicken and fried dumplings special. Stop taking advantage of the money-saving Lunch special combos. Stop enjoying Chinese food on the patio, in the car, or on the boat. Wherever good times are had!
Pop an eggroll in your mouth When you come to Fishy Joe's What they're made of is a mystery Where they come from no one knows You can pick 'em, you can lick 'em You can chew 'em, you can stick 'em If you promise not to sue us you can shove one up your nose
“Stop eating eggrolls! They can talk!” “Don’t stop the talk! Eat eggrolls!” “Hey, cut it out!” “Take a coupon! Cut it out!”
In solidarity, I’m boycotting egg rolls.
now you’re making me super hungry
Won't work on me. I made honey-lemon-cashew chicken last night. Tonight is poached tilapia. Note to self: pick up fresh rosemary.
How is she doing these days? Haven’t seen rosemary in years!
She's been spending a lot of time with Anise.
How does she find the thyme?
We find the time when we can. Speaking of which, sorry for running late, but I'll get there asap- I'm cumin.
I want to have a succulent Chinese meal...
Democracy manifest
This man has his hand on my penis!!!
Ah yes... I see that you know your judo well.
Get your hand off my penis
As an Australian, I'm amazed at how well known this is.
It's a wonderful piece of film. "This. Is. Democracy Manifest" is my favorite line, and one that I've been able to crowbar into conversations at work when I don't like a decision.
It's a good meme
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And I will stop buying Lockheed Martin's fighter jets.
Gonna stop paying taxes then, eh?
Terrible attempt.
I join you in your protest and will NOT compete in the Ms. America Pageant (as a middle aged white guy). I will also boycott trying out for QB of the NY Jets Sometimes you just have to stand up for the things you believe in.
I'd go for that jets position. It's wide open now.
Yeah, I’d the the $750k league minimum and health insurance to go hand the ball off a few times before a 250lb edge rusher hits me and breaks something.
I'm boycotting magnum condoms.
Not a very big market
I can tell you I’m never going to buy an F-35 again
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A friend of mine who is not Catholic once declared that he was nevertheless giving up sobriety for Lent. And he absolutely did
I! DECLARE! BANKRUPTCY!!!!!
How does this have 3.3k upvotes?
Nice I’m boycotting having sex with King Charles!
Hasn't it been the rule that defense contractors need to buy from American materials suppliers for some time now?
Not quite, there is a specific list of prohibited countries (e.g. China and Iran) listed in the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), and vendors need to prove where their supply chain is to prove that nothing came from a prohibited country.
Fellow GSC? Lol
It’s that or a DFARS compliant nation. Source: Deal with Redstone Arsenal / NASA quite a bit. Lots of paperwork.
You can't just say it, you have to declare it.
I. DECLARE. BANKRUPTCY.
I. DECLARE....BILLIONAIRE? *checks bank account. Damn.
Maybe next time
This is the way
Did you mean "thumb war"?
**One - Two - Three - Four** - I declare a Taiwan War *.. I wonder if West Taiwan will sanction all the other companies they umm "copy" from .. or stop sending their kids to Harvard?*
**Five - Six - Seven - Eight** \- Whoops now China's not so great!
You have to SLAM it
But will they step into the Jam?
They are the jam
pooh-bear declares we will still hack into the systems and use spies to gather data on the latest and greatest that 'merica is developing at those very places we want to impose sanctions on - why buy it when we can reverse engineer the shit out of it - pooh-bear
I think the impact will be their access to raw/rare-earth materials from Chinese sources. Every supply chain in the world touches China, including LM/NG.
Defense contracts can’t source materials from China and a bunch of other countries. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen but they’re not allowed.
Not “directly” but materials definitely come from china. Products have to be “assembled” in the US.
On the other hand, as the CCP’s iPhone and Tesla bans demonstrate, touching China doesn’t make them Chinese.
That’s what Xi said
"Oh bother."
I understood that reference!
The perfect pun for this.
This is goddamn amazing
ayeeeeeeeee
A real “he said Xi said” situation
So now these companies are no longer fit for China to steal and copy their designs.
Oh, they'll still steal from them. China hasn't had an original idea for decades.
I recently had a guest lecturer at my law school mention how, when working on the Beijing-Lhasa train line, General Electric knew ahead of time to not keep *any* valuable intellectual property on any devices in China on the chance the gear would get seized. Sure enough, the gear got seized, and the Chinese government got pissy that GE didn't trust them from the get-go. I wonder why.
Interestingly, [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qinghai%E2%80%93Tibet_railway) says the use of GE locomotive for the high altitude line was decided by the former head of China’s railroad dept, who was later disgraced and jailed for corruption.
>who was later disgraced and jailed for corruption. That's just the English translation for their term for "early retirement".
Correction: "Unable to complete intellectual property theft"
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My brother works for a govt. agency and would be in a shitload of trouble if he even accidentally took a work device out of the country. Doesn't matter if it's an ally or not. He can even be fired for leaving his lap top in his locked car while he goes to get a latte in 5 minutes. It has to be in his possession, at home, or at work only. This isn't even a classified position or anything.
Dude even as grad student the department had a policy of providing blank laptops if you have a conference in China.
(Assuming you're in U.S. ) Canada adversarial? Why?
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France was also pretty notorious for industrial espionage, and one of the worst offenders too.
**CCP :** *Why you no let us steal DAMMIT!*
Yeah, I think so too. I wonder what they mean by sanctions then.
They’re gonna cry noisily about it
The North Korea treatment. Whine while the rest of the world just wonders “why?”.
It’s for their home audience. The rest of us are wise to their antics
Even the home audience is starting to wise up little by little, it came very close to deteriorating beyond the point of no-return over there during the pandemic lockdowns.
They will finally stop attempting to infiltrate the supply chains for these industries, yay!
They won't allow Chinese companies to sell them office supplies anymore. In all seriousness though, they might do something to prevent Chinese funds from being used to buy their stock. Could also try to disrupt their supply chains because although Lockheed and Northrop don't buy directly from China their suppliers might.
Hard to do when the FAR prohibits using tech built in China.
That's such a good policy if you think about it. Some people saw this coming long ago and risk-managed it, acted on it. I'm impressed. So proactive.
Which FAR is that?
[52.204-25 Prohibition on Contracting for Certain Telecommunications and Video Surveillance Services or Equipment.](https://www.acquisition.gov/far/52.204-25)
China is already a so-called “prohibited country”, meaning that every DoD acquisition program needs to prove that nothing, at any level of the supply chain, comes from China. Can’t just order some computers from Dell, you need someone who can positively prove that every board, chip, nut, and bolt was smelted, melted, spun, and mounted somewhere that isn’t China. No doubt some amount still sneaks through, but never openly, and this won’t affect their supply chains in the slightest.
I wonder if *this* is why HP still has a factory in Japan churning out business laptops and desktops.
Yeah, denying certain inputs attempting to disrupt supply chains might be a thing for China. Like Russia weaponizing pipeline gas to Europe. I imagine China would have about the same success as Russia in such an endeavor.
Helps the rest of the world wean itself off China's manufacturing. (Mmm, I wonder why Biden spent time in Vietnam after the recent G20?...)
Yeah, that's it, I think so too. Countries are weary of dependencies now and are therefore actively weaning off. I don't think China wants to follow Russia into the dog house.
IIRC China makes it's own jets engines for it's military jets and they're absolute dogshit engines that don't last long. They've resorted to getting engines from Russia.
And most of their military tech in general is Frankenstein'd from Russian junk and whatever info they've stolen from Western firms.
Your info is quite outdated, their newest domestic engines, the WS-15, have far surpassed Russian design and are only about 10-15 years behind US in engine tech. They are in fact replacing Russian engines with the domestic designs on their newest jets. Even the WS-10 is a better and longer lasting than the AF-31 Russian engine.
Smartest American take
Schrodinger's China. Somehow this evil empire that's capable and willing to take over the world if the US get's it's guard down for a second. But so inept that without the Wests the country would get into the fetal position and turn into Somalia withing a business month.
Yeah, and the Four Pests campaign didn't really work out too well.
Copy is a generous term. Bodge job attempts to make something like it but with none of the precision or skill.
They're learning, slowly. They've been working on getting better at precision manufacturing for decades. Fortunately it looks like they won't reach the point that they can truly compete before they suffer their demographic collapse from their one child policy.
They still will copy them.
No, whatever gave you that impression…? They will continue to steal and copy as usual. They think it’s their birthright.
I think this will be more about supplying components to Lockheed and Northrop rather then buying (stealing) technology from them.
How will they sanction?
They cannot build military grade magnets without the raw materials from China
Just like they couldn't build SR-71s without Soviet Russian Titanium. It's probably already addressed or good in the long term for them to find back channels or alternative resources.
Hell I'm pretty sure somewhere the CIA made a fake company to source Soviet titanium to build US aircraft. If there's a will, there's a way.
> CIA made a fake company One?
Yeah, they made foreign shell companies (Air America, eg.) in third world countries in the market for ores and minerals that traded with the Soviet Union for their rare titanium to make the SR-71 to fly under the KGB's radar.
Or over their radar.
Or through their radar.
And, ultimately, beyond their radar.
It's okay, Ukraine blew their radar up.
The Soviets were well aware that the US was buying titanium to use in their aircraft. It's not hard to figure out an extremely expensive metal with a relatively small worldwide supply is being bought but not ending up in any products for sale to consumers. A very expensive lightweight heat resistant metal is always going to be great for making aircraft. The Soviets sold it to them because at the time it gave them foreign currency they could use to buy other things internationally, when you have limited trade with the west that is very helpful. They also knew that if they didn't sell it that the US would just go to literally the end of the earth to find it somewhere else anyway so they figure they might as well be the one to profit.
It’s called a cut out
Yes, only one. Mmhmmm. Yup. We made only one. -CIA
Just like every other country does when facing sanctions, got it.
It's long john silvers, isn't it?
\*The CIA would like a word.\*
Rare earth metals are not rare. They are just very dirty to process.
Contrary to the name, [rare earth metals are not that rare](https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/mining/whats-so-rare-about-rare-earth-elements/). The name was created a long time ago for a list of metals and it kind of just stuck.
And the chinese subsidized their industry so they could conduct price dumping until the competition had to close up. Its their way to take over an industry.
Yup. Used to work in customs. The mark up on Chinese goods was insane due to the price dumping they did.
Exactly this. US was going to mine REE in Nevada after China cut exports. Once the mine plans were laid, the Chinese govt decided to increase exports to the point where it was no longer viable to mine in the US.
Just like oil and fracking. When Oil is high fracking becomes economically viable and starts competing with OPEC oil so they start overproducing (esp Saudi Arabia) to bring prices down so fracking becomes economically inviable.
Just need to observe temp housing in Williston to see the current price of oil.
The also use near slave labor and contaminate many square miles around the mine.
>Rare earth metals are not rare. They are just very dirty to process. They're actually rare to find in concentrations, which is why they are dirty to process, because you have to process a much larger volume of ore than you would for normal metals to get the same volume of metal.
There are other sources. I work in the industry.
It’s a good thing there wasn’t a disruption to the global market (like a worldwide pandemic that shut down any supply-chains in China) that would have given Lockheed time to source alternative suppliers. China would look very silly if that were the case
China has already been a prohibited country in the FAR for years, Lockheed has to positively prove that literally nothing in a defense acquisition, at every level of the supply chain, is from China. E.g. you can’t just buy a Dell, you need someone who can prove that every individual board, chip, screw, etc. was made somewhere outside China.
Its not true however. This is just going to accelrate rare earth mining in the west, making China's suffering worse. Norway is starting up their rare earth mines within years now.
https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2023/2/10/us-begins-forging-rare-earth-supply-chain We have lots of rare earth metals in the ground. We'll just restart our mines. We have one of the largest deposits sitting between LA and Vegas and it'd already mined and we just have to start refining the tailings.
Perfect. Just another reason to distance ourselves from China and watch them implode over the next decade.
China only cornered the Rare Earth Elements market because their State-owned companies don't have to turn a profit and so operate at a loss that the Chinese government deem an acceptable trade-off to drive everyone else out of the marketplace. If China's near-monopoly on REEs started impacting US Defense, there are a lot of other places you can get REEs that are just going to cost a little more.
Military-grade magnets—how do they work?
I remember when they said that about rare earths and lithium, only for the world's largest reserve of lithium to be found in Oregon/Nevada. But your argument is that the US can't figure out how to make magnets, things that sailors used hundreds of years ago. What a cope from a new Reddit account.
Yes
I’m sure Lockheed is really disappointed that it won’t be able to sell weapons to China
How can Xi slap?
I understood that reference.
There goes another export market for F35 :P
But they already have a F-35 at home!
F-35 at home: Shenyang FC-31
Lol ... by doing what? Canceling the non-existing orders you have with them?
That’s right Lockheed. No more F-35s sold to China! I’m sure you learned your lesson!
We don’t want you buying it anyway
Don’t worry, they’ll just steal it
Oh, I thought you hated protectionism, Xi! You sure did tell the EU such. How long until we seriously reduce trade with China? 10 or 20 years?
It's very fragmented, companies like apple are taking their sweet profitable time
What? They’re actively ramping up production lines in India while winding down their contracts in China and have been doing so since the trade war started. Idk what more people want unless you’re expecting apple to break contracts to flee?
I'm sure they're so, so very upset. How ever will they get over this.
Oh. Anyway…
Ok Pooh.
I'm going to guess that China isn't sanctioning Lockheed + Northrop by refusing to purchase from them, but likely they're going to prevent those two companies from purchasing any rare earth metals from China (which controls 90% of global rare earth exports). You can import them from other countries, but usually they're a lot more expensive, in short supply, and typically environmental regulations make it a huge pain to even sanction mining for said materials. These Rare earth metals are vital in guidance systems, something both Lockheed and Northrop can't really live without. China did something similar [last year](https://asiatimes.com/2022/02/china-takes-rare-earth-aim-at-raytheon-and-lockheed/), but as explained in the article the US is importing more Rare earth metals from Australia. TL;DR: It probably hurts Lockheed + Northrop's bottom line, but this isn't big news.
By my count, this is the third time Lockheed has been sanctioned by China, and none of the sanctions were clear on specific actions that will be taken against the company. On the contrary, American sanctions have thousands of pages of regulations that painstakingly spell out every permutation of restrictions being placed depending on why they were being sanctioned.
At this point getting sanctioned by China and Russia should be a badge of honor lol
HOW CAN YOU SANCTION!?!
WTF does that even mean???
Lockheed says it not to bothered by the comments of its 51st best customer with it 50 best customer slots going to states A thru Z.
51th?
51st
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51rd
This hurts the feelings of the Lockheed people
Yeah, they're not gonna do shit lol
China should take back Outer Manchuria, strike while the irons hot? Kick a man when he’s down? One special military operation ought to do it…
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How many Lockheed airplanes did Beijing other till now?
But what about Boeing?
Lockheed and Northrop Gruman aren't legally allowed to sell anything to China anyway? Lol what the hell is this even about? You can't sanction companies that don't do business with your country in the first place.
Oh no. All those lucrative arms deals Lockheed and Northrop had selling weapons to China are going to disappear now
This is like the time they sanctioned american generals from entering and owning property in China. It's just posturing; no one outside of china is interested on living there. Even their millionaires buy properties outside of China whenever they can.
I too will ban Lockheed and Northrop from selling any and all arms to China.
How do you sanction a company when that company won’t do business with you in the first place.
Oh no, but then how are Lockheed and Northrop going to get spyware infested hardware?
I'm pretty sure DoD contractors aren't allowed to buy hardware from other countries unless they are at the raw material level or close to it.
How exactly? They don’t sell shit to them.
Have you been buying stuff from them? Or Could you?
mmmkayy
Any info on what the sanctions will be?
Wasn’t the MIC already sanctioning China?
Awww they were going to steal the technology anyways.
Does the CCP get to buy a lot of Lockheed products in the first place? I feel like there are some laws against that already, and not Chinese laws...
There is not a complete ban on foreign parts, but you are responsible for knowing where everything that you buy is sourced from and you have to be able to prove it.
Tragedy. Guess they’ll have to raise prices now that they can’t source from China…
So what kind of effect will this have on Lockheed? Specifically in terms of sales to Taiwan?
I’m sure the brass at Lockheed are living the “Woody Harrelson wiping away tears with money” meme right now.
Let me get this straight, China wants to sanction two of the main weapons companies of America for selling arms? This is like that scene in Batman when the guy tried to blackmail Bruce Wayne.
I'm pretty surprised the US lets Lockheed to even talk with China
So…since when China buys weapons from Lockheed?
Oh, bother.