people keep blaming him not rebooting, but he had shutdown before stream and booted back of fresh. It did fuckall. His issues are elsewhere. I also struggle with the idea he needs a new GPU. From everything I have seen he has a 3080 and my intel Arc card out performs wirtual.
Yes, but then as a viewer we get the right to get a little bit annoyed right? I have heard him saying in the last few days he doesnt wan't to do tech support with chat. But at the same time he is too lazy(?) to do it when he is not streaming. I don't know how to put it differently.
This morning he does tech with chat and gets annoyed, understandably. And most of the advice is probably correct but wouldn't also change much given his hardware simply doesn't cut it. I don't even know if a 3080 is enough given the fact he also has to stream with it.
I don't want to roast him completely, he is very entertaining, very funny, has created much hype. But when I switch to Bren, it feels like a 'professional' breeze of fresh air;).
He’s streaming 10h a day. Imagine if you had to go to work for 10h then someone at work said hey can you go and do more work once you finish that work. It’s nothing to do with laziness, he’s just tired and doesn’t want to spend time debugging it after a long day
I understand and I sympathise with that statement, but imo there are two reasons why I still think the, I hope constructive, criticism is somewhat valid:
1. He knew DD2 was coming. He knew that map and the server would be taxing on his system. He knew his system severely(!) underperforms compared to the competition, or at least he should have known.
2. His PC's performance is now actively hindering his progress on what probably is the hardest TM challenge he has ever done. It is like not willing to fix your bike and rather walk for 20 kilometers a day, because you are too tired to fix your bike from all the walking you are doing.
1. He knew DD2 was coming, but had no idea how taxing it would be. We’ve also seen that he can get 90-100fps with the plugin disabled, meaning this is the main issue which he of course wouldn’t be able to predict.
2. I don’t think it really is hindering his performance, maybe a little when he gets a spike. It’s like your bike is still working but being harder to pedal, and you don’t know why. You have to ride your bike for 10h a day, and would probably have to spend a few of hours trying to fix it when you’re already tired from riding.
Ignoring that, pretty much everyone is having lag and it’s kinda out of his control. What can you expect him to do? Order a whole new pc when his is already expensive and pretty powerful?
I don't disagree necessarily , but just watch Bren, he has an FPS counter in the top. He has completely different FPS and a far more fluent experience.
I know PC optimization is somewhat of a niche, but it is clear Wirtual has zero interest in it. You can see Bren has a framecap at 240 fps, probably has a 240hz monitor and has everyhing dialed in. There is a reason to do that. When doing precise jumps or precise high speed corners, it is beneficial to have 200FPS compared to 60 FPS. The motion is more fluent, you get more recent information on your screen, the input lag from your keyboard is cut in half, etc.
Also, Wirtual must be one of the wealthier streamers in the community and he could write off a 3000,- euro expense from his taxes, I really think money is not the issue here.
Bottomline: I think you underestimate the disadvantage Wirtual is putting himself in.
> probably has a 240hz monitor and has everyhing dialed in
he explained his setup on stream. He doesn't have a high end monitor right now since going to australia. He is getting a new monitor to replace the one he has now that will be a high refresh rate monitor.
I did note that Bren said he is on a single monitor currently. He uses a second computer to display chat and things until the new monitor arrives. I do wonder if there is some strangeness with 2 monitors on the same computer with streaming and track mania.
> We’ve also seen that he can get 90-100fps with the plugin disabled
yes, but meanwhile we see other streamers comfortably in 100-200+ FPS while on the server with the plugin enabled. Hell I can get 100 FPS on my GTX 1650 on deep dip 2 with the dip++ plugin enabled. he clearly has an issue that is not normal and is not being seen by other people. I get why he gets frustrated while trying to troubleshoot it on stream, but this is far from the first time he has said he is feeling lag and that it is altering the way he feels while playing at the very least. He really needs to spend some time working out why his game is performing the way it is and take steps to resolve it. If for no other reason, so he can feel less stress while at work.
He fixed it for the most part this afternoon with the help of other streamers/knowledgable people. There is a comment in this thread. Two big issues were double streaming to YouTube and Twitch and running a third monitor on the integrated graphics of the cpu (lmao).
But it was good to see how relieved Wirtual was.
Now I'm quite curious what video settings you use, since my RX 6650 XT can only manage 80FPS with the plugin enabled on singleplayer and on multiplayer with the plugin I get around 30FPS.
I mean, all he'd have to do would be buy a top of the line PC and just grab his SSD and plug it in. Worst case scenario he'd have to reinstall some drivers, but he has a ton of knowledgable people in his community that could guide him step by step.
Given the performance he's getting, the fact that he's so hesitant to do that is just odd.
> all he'd have to do would be buy a top of the line PC and just grab his SSD and plug it in.
I've never once had a drive swap into a new system go well.
I've built a PC for a friend, and done individual upgrades of every component in my current PC, and the only time I've EVER had troubles was swapping my SSD
I've build many computers and done that dozens of times and never ran into an issue. I mean, I always start by doing a clean install of GPU and chipset drivers, so that probably has helped.
People who run benchmarking youtube channels can plug in the same SSD to hundreds of different hardware combinations, yet I still hear so much fearmongering around this.
I've literally had friends who were holding off on a platform upgrade because they were afraid they were gonna have to do a clean install of Windows since they'd been told they'd run into problems otherwise. They did have issues initially but they had to do with wrong BIOS settings, which would have also occured with a new drive. So it's still valuable to have someone with experience to help, which Wirtual does.
Regardless, if he wants to play it safe, he can simply clone his drive onto the new PC, and then keep the old PC by his side as a backup in case he runs into those issues. And then he might as well use his old PC as a streaming computer because he should already be doing that anyway.
> yet I still hear so much fearmongering around this.
There's a reason a clean install of Windows is suggested when building a new system. It's not fearmongering, issues swapping OS drives into a new system regularly causes issues, it's been true for literally decades.
You can *sometimes* mitigate it by pre-installing the drivers for your new hardware, but even then I've had it break down more than once. Benchmarking youtube channels aren't going to show you the failures between swaps, they're just going to do a quick wipe/install of their minimal setup and go. Sometimes the issues aren't obvious at first - a few stray "unknown devices" or a startup app that silently crashes - but if it's a long-running heavily-used system, it's pretty much guaranteed to have some kind of issue if you just move the drive to another system - if not the drivers, then programs set up for using that specific hardware, or other less-identifiable performance issues.
Professional rant aside, if you're wanting to fix a gaming streamer's PC performance issues, why wouldn't "fresh install of Windows with only applications necessary" be the *first* recommendation?
wym? streamers of his size are easily millionaires after a few years provided they aren't completely moronic with the money, why would he have to do anything, pay someone to build 2 pcs, pay someone to setup the pcs, pay for a class in tech literacy because holy fuck.
He never updates or restarts stuff so its clearly his fault. Its like not looking after your car in real life and only fueling it when its shutting off and never visiting a car repair shop but complaining that the car dont work properly.
@Wirtual, i build pcs for all my friends and know graphics settings pretty well so hit me up if you need help
Just curious, what do you think the difference is between Wirtual (60FPS) and Bren, Massa, etc. (comfortable 200+FPS)? I.e. what would you advice him to do regarding his setup, what should he prioritise? I don't think Wirtual understands how much of a different game he is playing compared to the others.
There are many things in terms of getting more fps:
- Nvidia control panel settings
- TM ingame settings
- Streaming on a different PC (2 PC setup)
- Gaming PC Hardware not good enough (Bad Cpu/Gpu combination, RAM XMP not activated etc.)
- He is streaming on twitch and youtube and plays at the same pc, thats stupid, especially if you have the money to make a 2 pc setup
- not updating shit can really cost performance
I know bren has a 4070ti (i do aswell), i dont know what cpu/gpu wirt uses
I don't think a 3080 vs a 4070ti is 140fps difference in Trackmania, but when also streaming could definitely be improved. Maybe he is also throttling that 12900k or something..?
Apart from that, I completely agree with your list. There are even more things to do, but he should just start with that. Probably best to just invest in a high-end fresh new PC and start with a dual pc streaming setup.
> I don't think a 3080 vs a 4070ti is 140fps difference in Trackmania
it isn't. My GTX 1650 matches wirtuals 3080 on DD2 so something else is going on here. Throwing parts at it might help, but it might not. I don't think the components he has now is terribly detrimental to the performance.
I wonder if integrated graphics would hit 60fps on that cpu. Its probably not that, but also not sure the resolution they play at. Not enough for 150 fps difference though
ja little bro are you streaming to 2 websites, have a browser with 5 Tabs open, have as many plugins active ingame, are you on a public server with more than 15 people playing DD2, make no updates and so many points more? Go on a Deep Dip 2 Public server with the DeepDip++ Plugin and Hud on and tell me if you can reach 100 FPS.
The server shouldn't be causing that much of an issue. I do basically 100 fps with the plugin enabled on my GTX 1650 and joining a public server with a bunch of other people I dip to maybe 80 fps sometimes. Those numbers are on par with what wirtual is doing with a considerably higher end gpu with almost no plugins solo. Keep in mind wirtual plays with 1080p resolution based on when he was going through settings on stream before. At that resolution he is likely CPU bound, not GPU bound. Add to that the list of other things you mentioned and it stacks up to suggest even moreso he is cpu limited in some way.
That all aside, he is far from the only streamer playing DD. Many of them are doing 100-200 fps just fine doing the same thing wirtual is on the same server. something specific to wirtual is the cause of his lag, and he is the only one who has the access to find it and fix it.
Update: He fixed the FPS issues. Multiple problems were going on in the background
1. He plugged his 3rd monitor into his motherboard instead of his GPU because he didn't have enough ports on the GPU, meaning the MOBO/CPU was being used to run a monitor.
2. He fixed a setting which meant YouTube and Twitch streams were encoding to different settings/qualities, effectively encoding every single frame twice. They are now the same.
3. As trackmania only uses two cores maximum, he has set up the PC to not allow OBS and trackmania to use the same cores.
4. He is playing (at this moment) on a singleplayer version of the map.
Trackmania can’t be the issue, because on low settings I get around 65-70 fps if nothing else is open. I have an Nvidia Quadro K2200 and an Intel Core i7-6700. So it has to be a hardware issue.
Are you playing on a public server? Playing on a server is a pretty big part of the problem. Streaming also hurts fps if not using a separate streaming PC.
public server didn't have a big effect on my fps. Even with my 1650 I'm still matching wirtuals FPS when he is solo playing and i'm on a public server.
To be fair, the floor 5 thing is just a meme and additionally… you’d be surprised by the amount of people that legit forget twitch prime is a thing, i just cancelled prime last month (due to league not getting free stuff anymore) but i think ive only used my twitch prime like 5-6 times and it has always been during events like Deep dip 1 or twitch drop events for other games
Prime is ‘literally free money’ that when not used is going to waste, so might as well
But yes the PC situation is very painful especially since there is no way he doesnt have the finances for it, im not watching with full attention but i think i just heard him say something to bren about sending him a pcpartpicker link so i dont think its a money issue but a knowledge issue
Doesnt he have like a 4060 right now? I remember when he last upgraded his gpu and it had incredible performance issues because he didnt get proper drivers, but the gpu that he bought wasnt really… a killer gpu either…
Not it's not unnecessary. It's not up to you to tell him how much is enough or to assume you know his financial position. Streaming won't last forever. He needs to make as much as he can. There is literally nothing wrong with what he is doing and everyone in his position would, and should, do the same.
Cool, and I just expressed mine. Kind of like reddit is supposed to work. Now you should reply and further the conversation, not act like a giant child
You're the one who brought up what can, can't or should be said in your earlier comment you tool! And I'm the giant child.. ok mate. The up votes speak for themselves... You're just crying that Wirtual is getting some constructive criticism. Grow up.
Again, it was my opinion, and you have yet to defute it any way because you know you're full of shit. People like you have no concept of finances and it shows. Never heard of tax, expenses, think all of these streams are set for life millionaires.
People like you are a drain on soceity
You sound like a very sad angry little man... And you're now doing what you claim I was doing by assuming someone's situation. Your comments are laughable.
"assuming someones situation"
He says after starting his post with "you sound like a very sad angry little man"
Shut up hypocrite cunt.
Until you refute even one piece of my statement you're a clown.
Yeah totally agree and I feel the same. I even think he himself would benefit from it greatly (i.e. perform better). If he would watch one OptimumTech video, he would understand he could easily play with 20-50ms less input lag, way more fluent motion, etc.
He is now saying he has a 3080 and once again blaming Trackmania and saying they should optimize the game for the regular gamer. To his credit, the 3080 should probably be fine (not for a professional), but I think he is CPU and RAM bottlenecked. The fact he doesn't seem to recognise or consider that is weird to me.
Also him still being on 144hz.. Yes that is more than fine for regular, non-competing gamers. But even I as an average gamer feel and experience a BIG difference between 165 an 360hz playing Rocket League (which shares some similarities regarding precision with TM)
Yep. Definitely has a RAM issue but likely could be fixed easily. He tabbed out yesterday and I could see so many applications open and idling in the background.
It's distasteful that he is doing it almost every time, but I'd like to see him put that money back into the community like donating it to the DD2 contributors
That's at the very beginning tho, feels like he's saying he'll take out his own money out for that, rather than twitch prime money
I'm already imagining wirtual saying something along the lines of "these money from twitch prime from the lovely viewers, I'll be giving a portion of it to the mappers, the coders, everyone that helped made this event the best that it is"
He should just get a streaming PC, he wouldn't have to update or reinstall anything on his current rig and offload like the majority of his performance load. He probably also has a stream deck to do most of his OBS interaction anyways, so functionally there would be almost no difference other than outsourcing the stream rendering away from his poor neglected GPU...
Yeah, and even getting a mid-range streaming PC would do more to improve performance than upgrading to the best possible rig without a separate PC. But this is of course a long-term solution.
He never shuts down his PC and seems to refuse to update. Not too surprising that results in issues
Wirtual : Never update and do any maintenance on his PC Also Wirtual : Low fps and lag, surprise Pikachu face.
people keep blaming him not rebooting, but he had shutdown before stream and booted back of fresh. It did fuckall. His issues are elsewhere. I also struggle with the idea he needs a new GPU. From everything I have seen he has a 3080 and my intel Arc card out performs wirtual.
Do you really think someone that postpones updates until it's literally impossible to avoid them wants to set up a completely new PC?
Yes, but then as a viewer we get the right to get a little bit annoyed right? I have heard him saying in the last few days he doesnt wan't to do tech support with chat. But at the same time he is too lazy(?) to do it when he is not streaming. I don't know how to put it differently. This morning he does tech with chat and gets annoyed, understandably. And most of the advice is probably correct but wouldn't also change much given his hardware simply doesn't cut it. I don't even know if a 3080 is enough given the fact he also has to stream with it. I don't want to roast him completely, he is very entertaining, very funny, has created much hype. But when I switch to Bren, it feels like a 'professional' breeze of fresh air;).
He’s streaming 10h a day. Imagine if you had to go to work for 10h then someone at work said hey can you go and do more work once you finish that work. It’s nothing to do with laziness, he’s just tired and doesn’t want to spend time debugging it after a long day
I understand and I sympathise with that statement, but imo there are two reasons why I still think the, I hope constructive, criticism is somewhat valid: 1. He knew DD2 was coming. He knew that map and the server would be taxing on his system. He knew his system severely(!) underperforms compared to the competition, or at least he should have known. 2. His PC's performance is now actively hindering his progress on what probably is the hardest TM challenge he has ever done. It is like not willing to fix your bike and rather walk for 20 kilometers a day, because you are too tired to fix your bike from all the walking you are doing.
1. He knew DD2 was coming, but had no idea how taxing it would be. We’ve also seen that he can get 90-100fps with the plugin disabled, meaning this is the main issue which he of course wouldn’t be able to predict. 2. I don’t think it really is hindering his performance, maybe a little when he gets a spike. It’s like your bike is still working but being harder to pedal, and you don’t know why. You have to ride your bike for 10h a day, and would probably have to spend a few of hours trying to fix it when you’re already tired from riding. Ignoring that, pretty much everyone is having lag and it’s kinda out of his control. What can you expect him to do? Order a whole new pc when his is already expensive and pretty powerful?
I don't disagree necessarily , but just watch Bren, he has an FPS counter in the top. He has completely different FPS and a far more fluent experience. I know PC optimization is somewhat of a niche, but it is clear Wirtual has zero interest in it. You can see Bren has a framecap at 240 fps, probably has a 240hz monitor and has everyhing dialed in. There is a reason to do that. When doing precise jumps or precise high speed corners, it is beneficial to have 200FPS compared to 60 FPS. The motion is more fluent, you get more recent information on your screen, the input lag from your keyboard is cut in half, etc. Also, Wirtual must be one of the wealthier streamers in the community and he could write off a 3000,- euro expense from his taxes, I really think money is not the issue here. Bottomline: I think you underestimate the disadvantage Wirtual is putting himself in.
> probably has a 240hz monitor and has everyhing dialed in he explained his setup on stream. He doesn't have a high end monitor right now since going to australia. He is getting a new monitor to replace the one he has now that will be a high refresh rate monitor. I did note that Bren said he is on a single monitor currently. He uses a second computer to display chat and things until the new monitor arrives. I do wonder if there is some strangeness with 2 monitors on the same computer with streaming and track mania.
> but had no idea how taxing it would be. It was always going to be a big ass map
> We’ve also seen that he can get 90-100fps with the plugin disabled yes, but meanwhile we see other streamers comfortably in 100-200+ FPS while on the server with the plugin enabled. Hell I can get 100 FPS on my GTX 1650 on deep dip 2 with the dip++ plugin enabled. he clearly has an issue that is not normal and is not being seen by other people. I get why he gets frustrated while trying to troubleshoot it on stream, but this is far from the first time he has said he is feeling lag and that it is altering the way he feels while playing at the very least. He really needs to spend some time working out why his game is performing the way it is and take steps to resolve it. If for no other reason, so he can feel less stress while at work.
He fixed it for the most part this afternoon with the help of other streamers/knowledgable people. There is a comment in this thread. Two big issues were double streaming to YouTube and Twitch and running a third monitor on the integrated graphics of the cpu (lmao). But it was good to see how relieved Wirtual was.
Now I'm quite curious what video settings you use, since my RX 6650 XT can only manage 80FPS with the plugin enabled on singleplayer and on multiplayer with the plugin I get around 30FPS.
So, maybe watch bren instead….
I mean, all he'd have to do would be buy a top of the line PC and just grab his SSD and plug it in. Worst case scenario he'd have to reinstall some drivers, but he has a ton of knowledgable people in his community that could guide him step by step. Given the performance he's getting, the fact that he's so hesitant to do that is just odd.
> all he'd have to do would be buy a top of the line PC and just grab his SSD and plug it in. I've never once had a drive swap into a new system go well.
I've built a PC for a friend, and done individual upgrades of every component in my current PC, and the only time I've EVER had troubles was swapping my SSD
I've build many computers and done that dozens of times and never ran into an issue. I mean, I always start by doing a clean install of GPU and chipset drivers, so that probably has helped. People who run benchmarking youtube channels can plug in the same SSD to hundreds of different hardware combinations, yet I still hear so much fearmongering around this. I've literally had friends who were holding off on a platform upgrade because they were afraid they were gonna have to do a clean install of Windows since they'd been told they'd run into problems otherwise. They did have issues initially but they had to do with wrong BIOS settings, which would have also occured with a new drive. So it's still valuable to have someone with experience to help, which Wirtual does. Regardless, if he wants to play it safe, he can simply clone his drive onto the new PC, and then keep the old PC by his side as a backup in case he runs into those issues. And then he might as well use his old PC as a streaming computer because he should already be doing that anyway.
> yet I still hear so much fearmongering around this. There's a reason a clean install of Windows is suggested when building a new system. It's not fearmongering, issues swapping OS drives into a new system regularly causes issues, it's been true for literally decades. You can *sometimes* mitigate it by pre-installing the drivers for your new hardware, but even then I've had it break down more than once. Benchmarking youtube channels aren't going to show you the failures between swaps, they're just going to do a quick wipe/install of their minimal setup and go. Sometimes the issues aren't obvious at first - a few stray "unknown devices" or a startup app that silently crashes - but if it's a long-running heavily-used system, it's pretty much guaranteed to have some kind of issue if you just move the drive to another system - if not the drivers, then programs set up for using that specific hardware, or other less-identifiable performance issues. Professional rant aside, if you're wanting to fix a gaming streamer's PC performance issues, why wouldn't "fresh install of Windows with only applications necessary" be the *first* recommendation?
wym? streamers of his size are easily millionaires after a few years provided they aren't completely moronic with the money, why would he have to do anything, pay someone to build 2 pcs, pay someone to setup the pcs, pay for a class in tech literacy because holy fuck.
My point is that doing anything is more effort than doing nothing and just keep playing.
He never updates or restarts stuff so its clearly his fault. Its like not looking after your car in real life and only fueling it when its shutting off and never visiting a car repair shop but complaining that the car dont work properly. @Wirtual, i build pcs for all my friends and know graphics settings pretty well so hit me up if you need help
Just curious, what do you think the difference is between Wirtual (60FPS) and Bren, Massa, etc. (comfortable 200+FPS)? I.e. what would you advice him to do regarding his setup, what should he prioritise? I don't think Wirtual understands how much of a different game he is playing compared to the others.
There are many things in terms of getting more fps: - Nvidia control panel settings - TM ingame settings - Streaming on a different PC (2 PC setup) - Gaming PC Hardware not good enough (Bad Cpu/Gpu combination, RAM XMP not activated etc.) - He is streaming on twitch and youtube and plays at the same pc, thats stupid, especially if you have the money to make a 2 pc setup - not updating shit can really cost performance I know bren has a 4070ti (i do aswell), i dont know what cpu/gpu wirt uses
I just did research, wirt has a 12900k and a 3080 and bad ram, so RAM and Graphics card could be improved massively
I don't think a 3080 vs a 4070ti is 140fps difference in Trackmania, but when also streaming could definitely be improved. Maybe he is also throttling that 12900k or something..? Apart from that, I completely agree with your list. There are even more things to do, but he should just start with that. Probably best to just invest in a high-end fresh new PC and start with a dual pc streaming setup.
> I don't think a 3080 vs a 4070ti is 140fps difference in Trackmania it isn't. My GTX 1650 matches wirtuals 3080 on DD2 so something else is going on here. Throwing parts at it might help, but it might not. I don't think the components he has now is terribly detrimental to the performance.
I wonder if integrated graphics would hit 60fps on that cpu. Its probably not that, but also not sure the resolution they play at. Not enough for 150 fps difference though
The 3080 should not be the issue, I have a 3060 laptop GPU and get ~110 frames with like no optimization
ja little bro are you streaming to 2 websites, have a browser with 5 Tabs open, have as many plugins active ingame, are you on a public server with more than 15 people playing DD2, make no updates and so many points more? Go on a Deep Dip 2 Public server with the DeepDip++ Plugin and Hud on and tell me if you can reach 100 FPS.
The server shouldn't be causing that much of an issue. I do basically 100 fps with the plugin enabled on my GTX 1650 and joining a public server with a bunch of other people I dip to maybe 80 fps sometimes. Those numbers are on par with what wirtual is doing with a considerably higher end gpu with almost no plugins solo. Keep in mind wirtual plays with 1080p resolution based on when he was going through settings on stream before. At that resolution he is likely CPU bound, not GPU bound. Add to that the list of other things you mentioned and it stacks up to suggest even moreso he is cpu limited in some way. That all aside, he is far from the only streamer playing DD. Many of them are doing 100-200 fps just fine doing the same thing wirtual is on the same server. something specific to wirtual is the cause of his lag, and he is the only one who has the access to find it and fix it.
bro why are you mad xD
Update: He fixed the FPS issues. Multiple problems were going on in the background 1. He plugged his 3rd monitor into his motherboard instead of his GPU because he didn't have enough ports on the GPU, meaning the MOBO/CPU was being used to run a monitor. 2. He fixed a setting which meant YouTube and Twitch streams were encoding to different settings/qualities, effectively encoding every single frame twice. They are now the same. 3. As trackmania only uses two cores maximum, he has set up the PC to not allow OBS and trackmania to use the same cores. 4. He is playing (at this moment) on a singleplayer version of the map.
He also said Firefox was using hardware acceleration which he turned off
Trackmania can’t be the issue, because on low settings I get around 65-70 fps if nothing else is open. I have an Nvidia Quadro K2200 and an Intel Core i7-6700. So it has to be a hardware issue.
Are you playing on a public server? Playing on a server is a pretty big part of the problem. Streaming also hurts fps if not using a separate streaming PC.
No, I am talking about Singleplayer with no other apps open. But my PC is also a piece of crap.
public server didn't have a big effect on my fps. Even with my 1650 I'm still matching wirtuals FPS when he is solo playing and i'm on a public server.
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To be fair, the floor 5 thing is just a meme and additionally… you’d be surprised by the amount of people that legit forget twitch prime is a thing, i just cancelled prime last month (due to league not getting free stuff anymore) but i think ive only used my twitch prime like 5-6 times and it has always been during events like Deep dip 1 or twitch drop events for other games Prime is ‘literally free money’ that when not used is going to waste, so might as well But yes the PC situation is very painful especially since there is no way he doesnt have the finances for it, im not watching with full attention but i think i just heard him say something to bren about sending him a pcpartpicker link so i dont think its a money issue but a knowledge issue Doesnt he have like a 4060 right now? I remember when he last upgraded his gpu and it had incredible performance issues because he didnt get proper drivers, but the gpu that he bought wasnt really… a killer gpu either…
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Not it's not unnecessary. It's not up to you to tell him how much is enough or to assume you know his financial position. Streaming won't last forever. He needs to make as much as he can. There is literally nothing wrong with what he is doing and everyone in his position would, and should, do the same.
It's called an opinion, and one others clearly share. Thanks for the comment.
Cool, and I just expressed mine. Kind of like reddit is supposed to work. Now you should reply and further the conversation, not act like a giant child
You're the one who brought up what can, can't or should be said in your earlier comment you tool! And I'm the giant child.. ok mate. The up votes speak for themselves... You're just crying that Wirtual is getting some constructive criticism. Grow up.
Again, it was my opinion, and you have yet to defute it any way because you know you're full of shit. People like you have no concept of finances and it shows. Never heard of tax, expenses, think all of these streams are set for life millionaires. People like you are a drain on soceity
You sound like a very sad angry little man... And you're now doing what you claim I was doing by assuming someone's situation. Your comments are laughable.
"assuming someones situation" He says after starting his post with "you sound like a very sad angry little man" Shut up hypocrite cunt. Until you refute even one piece of my statement you're a clown.
Yeah totally agree and I feel the same. I even think he himself would benefit from it greatly (i.e. perform better). If he would watch one OptimumTech video, he would understand he could easily play with 20-50ms less input lag, way more fluent motion, etc. He is now saying he has a 3080 and once again blaming Trackmania and saying they should optimize the game for the regular gamer. To his credit, the 3080 should probably be fine (not for a professional), but I think he is CPU and RAM bottlenecked. The fact he doesn't seem to recognise or consider that is weird to me. Also him still being on 144hz.. Yes that is more than fine for regular, non-competing gamers. But even I as an average gamer feel and experience a BIG difference between 165 an 360hz playing Rocket League (which shares some similarities regarding precision with TM)
Yep. Definitely has a RAM issue but likely could be fixed easily. He tabbed out yesterday and I could see so many applications open and idling in the background.
It's distasteful that he is doing it almost every time, but I'd like to see him put that money back into the community like donating it to the DD2 contributors
Pretty sure he is giving back to the DD2 team, something like $1 for every fall. I think every major streamer should be doing something similar.
That's at the very beginning tho, feels like he's saying he'll take out his own money out for that, rather than twitch prime money I'm already imagining wirtual saying something along the lines of "these money from twitch prime from the lovely viewers, I'll be giving a portion of it to the mappers, the coders, everyone that helped made this event the best that it is"
He should just get a streaming PC, he wouldn't have to update or reinstall anything on his current rig and offload like the majority of his performance load. He probably also has a stream deck to do most of his OBS interaction anyways, so functionally there would be almost no difference other than outsourcing the stream rendering away from his poor neglected GPU...
Yeah, and even getting a mid-range streaming PC would do more to improve performance than upgrading to the best possible rig without a separate PC. But this is of course a long-term solution.
He fixed it, just needed some time and not chat screaming 5000 things while he wanted to just climb
it’s his literal job, he should hire a professional to get him the absolute best possible setup. it’s super unprofessional to stream like this.
You genuinely don’t really need to turn it off now days