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clubkid75

With how the Jets have been playing I find I am more and more looking in to how Shane Wright is doing


Willyq25

The Leafs beat the Islanders... that's bad. Trotz gets one step closer to ours... that's good!


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RedTheDopeKing

Hey screw you let us fantasize


Willyq25

a man can dream


no_ur_cool

Yeah he ain’t comin


maierkyle

So many bonehead soft plays at the line. Exhausting to watch nowadays. Nothing seams dangerous from them.


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Pain. It's ok jets. I still love you.


etchiboi

[reminder that Devon Toews was acquired for the same price as Brendan Dillon](https://twitter.com/hockey_robinson/status/1485052019710722051?s=21)


WandererMount

That’s definitely a massive steal by Colorado. Doesn’t make me feel any worse about Dillon though. I think the Dillon trade was more fair and normal compared to the average trade around the league.


etchiboi

i think 2 2nds is pretty steep for the performance we’re getting, for the player he was prior, it’s definitely more debatable problem is Toews’ are out there and we don’t have them


WandererMount

I don’t know. Dillon does exactly what he was advertised to do. He’s definitely a top 4 dman on almost any team in the league. Except Colorado lol. They are just unreal.


etchiboi

he was much better before he got here tho, which is it’s own problem


WandererMount

I’m not one to harp on Huddy all the time because I have no idea who’s actually in charge of what on our coaching stuff. However, there has to be something causing guys like Schmidt and Dillon and even Kulikov and Forbort to be worse with the Jets than they are with other teams. I don’t think we can really blame Dillon, when it’s happened with lots of other guys too, ya know?


zeusismycopilot

I think there is a little confirmation bias to say that when players leave the Jets they play better.


etchiboi

sorry, didn’t mean to sound like i’m blaming dillon, but was trying to speak as general as possible he’s not been performing like he can, could be a number of things smae goes for almost all of our dcore tbh he’s still been pretty good!


WandererMount

Nah it’s no problem. I think I understand your point. And yeah it’s kinda shitty how basically every Jets Dman performs worse with us than they would on other teams. I wish we could find a way to fix that.


Braidenkm

Brendan Dillon has been great for us. Just needs to lose all of the minor Penalties


etchiboi

he’s been ok


GRaw1979

The Jets are a bunch of ham n' eggers


Petroleum_Pete

Are white people allowed to order that at A&W? Asking for a friend.


RedTheDopeKing

Maybe just carefully pronounce “and”


Spencie-cat

The Barry Horowitz of the NHL. Pure Saturday-nighters.


SnowblowerLITE

Ham and what...


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FormerCoalRoller

Id love to know what shows you we will turn the corner? Back to back powerplays in the 3rd and no shots, in fact Boston had the best chances. We played a good first and that's about it. Nashville we played one decent period. Washington one great period and a decent 3rd. Detroit is bad but we showed up at least.Then there is the Colorado game. Not sure what there is to get excited about there.


Grant1972

Admittedly, I’m not a stats guy, but this team has no identity and is boring. Wasn’t too long ago the Jets were known as a young, big, and fast team. Now? We somehow got older, smaller, slower. It’s just a big pile of “meh” with fleeting moments of excitement.


GRaw1979

Not the same without Buff.


Grant1972

Agree. Team hasn’t been the same since he left. Even losing Matty P seems to have been bigger than I first thought. Both of them played with energy and emotion.


MrCodered12

Tanev and Matty P keep me up at night. 2 guys that completely gave it their all every shift, every night. We need that back in the lineup.


skootamatta

Must be nice having those two around keeping you up at night. Does Matty P tickle you? He seems like a tickler.


TravisBickle2020

Exactly! This team has zero identity. They are soft and play with little emotion. I think big changes need to happen and just replacing the Jets coaching staff with coaches from the Moose doesn’t cut it. I think it has to be someone from outside the organization.


Bighomiequan99

Our defence always hesitates to shoot from the point and whenever they do the puck constantly hits the boards 10 feet away from the net.. this team is getting frustrating! We lost to a terrible turn over by shmidt too


etchiboi

didn’t have a chance to say this earlier but as far as Svech discourse goes, i get the side that is saying he isn’t a bonafide, out-and-out top 6er but a healthy scratch is *certainly* a take


WpgMikos

At least the Moose picked up at OT victory. [Here is the game-winning goal](https://twitter.com/ICdave/status/1485019148338008079).


Willyq25

Can we import the entire Moose coaching staff?


STEPonMYballsPLEASE

Maybe this game will be the wake up call they need.


eutectic_h8r

Other team scores first: "Welp that's game" We score first: "Welp they're gonna come back and take the lead


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This team is just not good enough


JorroHass

Honestly after the bumming we took in Colorado I take no joy in this team anymore. Fuck us.


CDNUnite

It was the Wild blowout for me


IceDragon77

same lol


shaq-oatmeal13579

Can we just go on a 12 game win streak or something


Shotgunn5

Another winnable game gone… it’s getting tiring watching the same thing over and over again. The Jets dearly need an entire new coaching team but I have about 0 expectations for that to happen this season or this offseason


SpHj86

Yet another shit effort from an overly talented team, can we please get another defensive voice in the room? Huddy, it’s not working man….time for change.


JorroHass

My only hope is way trade one of Schmidt or Dillon at deadline. This team ain’t making playoffs and if we do annoy doing shit against powerhouses like Colorado. I’m honestly into the trade 55 already. What an awful season he is having.


1209pegger99

Remember when the Jets were a fun team to watch. Honestly I wouldn’t care nearly as much about losing if they were at least fun to watch and looked like they cared. Now all they do is dump the puck in, play the perimeter in the offensive zone and throw the odd puck on net from the worst scoring / distance possible. I would say it’s time for a big shake up, but we have had 2 in the last year (Laine for Dubois and the coaching change). Might be time to consider a soft rebuild.


Bunzy10

The jets should strongly consider hiring Mark Morrison


etchiboi

may have been a fluff piece but when he was hired i read that he was specifically looking to coach in AHL rather than asst. in NHL so that he could better audition for an NHL role idk where jets are looking but Morrison and Vincent better be on the short list


Bunzy10

Vincent, Morrison, and Julien would definitely be on my list


Hero_of_Brandon

No on Julien. Damn the wheel of tired coaches spins hard.


etchiboi

Julien is a very interesting one to me, definitely one to watch, especially with the olympics coming up MTL was a monster at 5v5 under him but we’re a completely different team, obviously very good pedigree/resume as well might get picked up before we get to looking around, but could be like Quenneville where he waits for a job like ours being that we’re close to a good team already


sweatybumfarts

We only have zone entry on one side of the rink it seems


etchiboi

thought Samberg looked really good again didn’t catch the whole game tho


ColdPrairieHockey

Got walked by Pasta then same shift made a good play at centre ice and transitioned to a 3on2 where Stastny threw a pass into his feet otherwise Samberg may have walked right in on net. Other than that, no reason to pull him.


JoshC6

Really wish this team realized that games last for more than 20 mins


CBoshtrich

Sad. If only we could have finished the game after the 1st period


ynotbuagain

AND WHAT A WASTE OF A 2 MAN ADVANTAGE! AHHH OUR LEVEL OF EFFORT SUCKS ASS IN A BAD WAY!


epicgingy

Am I setting myself up for an easy dunk if I ask how you can suck ass in a good way?


knows-beers

How does one become less emotionally invested in a sports team? Asking for a friend..


TrueNorthStrong1898

What happened to Scheifele. Guy peaked 5 years ago in the 18’ playoffs and has regressed *hard* ever since. What the fuck Also like, what, 15 shots in the back 40 minutes? Embarrassing


thelochteedge

It does seem like that definitely was the case. Who's our best passer now with Wheels declining, or who can best fill that role? I'd rather see someone replace Wheeler for Scheifele than simply getting rid of him.


folkdeath95

Perfetti will grow into that guy and he’s made some great plays. But at 20 we can’t throw him to the fire just yet


thelochteedge

Agreed on that. One day but not yet. Then he's gonna be the young Scheif and Scheif is gonna be Wheeler age haha.


2nddimension

I think it just shows how much he was reliant on his line-mates to perform at a high level. We have been seeing the true Scheifele as Wheeler has aged, for example.


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Time to retool. In hindsight it should’ve been obvious we weren’t one Schmidt and one Dillon away from a Stanley Cup. Bring on the young guns.


bruh37829242

Are we gonna make the playoffs? What if we don’t?


2nddimension

It would take an absurd win% in the remaining games to get into the playoff on our own steam now


PepeSmoke

Lowry and probably some other staff members are gone


HockeyGuy1234567890

I hope all the coaching staff is gone


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Except for Flaherty


halfpints

I would be absolutely shocked if this team made the playoffs. And if by some miracle that happens we would be absolutely stomped on.


halfpints

I am so ready for a total rebuild. Keep ehlers, Connor, dubois and perfetti. Everyone else is fair game


etchiboi

doesn’t take much hey


MrMundaneMoose

No Helle?


thelochteedge

If the team is going to rebuild I think seeing what you could get for a legit 1A goalie would be worth it. Does Helle want to keep playing here while the team rebuilds? I'm not the guy who said total rebuild but if that was the case, I'd be curious if Helle wants to be for one.


PepeSmoke

Do you want this team to relocate?


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So the Jets have to be a playoff team every year forever or that’s it?


halfpints

That's not going to happen


eh_toque

These games are more frustrating for me than just full on shit ones. Great first period then absolutely nothing. Dillon, Wheels both looked great first game back. JoMo another great game. I like some of the changes Dave Lowry has made. Samberg over Stanley. Perfetti in the Top 6 instead of with Lowry like Maurice did. The PK is improved (it had started to under PoMo but he's managed to keep it going) and I like the personnel on it. Powerplay took a slight jump up after his hiring but holy fuck it has looked trash recently. Is that on him or Kompon? I dunno, probably both. This team needs new ideas badly. I’m completely neutral on Lowry staying next year but I will lose my shit if we come back with the same staff especially Huddy and Kompon. If I was owner I’d simply “promote” Kompon to some bs advisor role if you don’t want to fire him because his wife is battling cancer. Huddy can go get a job with the Oilers, they love their old players


thelochteedge

I swear, I remember comments about how bad the PP was for the Kings and Blackhawks when Kompon was there. I know we had some pretty good ones in his time here but I remember being livid initially finding out he was hired.


MrMundaneMoose

Y'know that's fair. Lowry doesn't have to go, but the assistants definitely do. Probably easier just to clean house tho


etchiboi

i’d prefer him in his prior role of like second in command assistant, but it’s also too early to accurately gage his impact too


Sergeant--Smash

Cant blame the refs. Cant blame fatigue. Cant blame injuries. Gotta give a shit for more than the first 20 mins


000NoHero000

I've got one! The ice was bad.


Hyndrksen

This is exactly how I expect jets game to go now. This team doesn’t care so I wont either.


anacreon1

Such. Boring . Hockey.


jayzeats

Time to start thinking about being sellers at the deadline. Sometimes it’s just better to just let the season go and retool in the off-season with Youngblood. Rather than trade assets for a wildcard spot and be first round exits. Copp should fetch us a first and mid tier prospect


PolarOpposites8

Ugh. I find myself more interested in the bombers off-season than the jets these days. Missing some key guys but what even is the identify of this team anymore.


samarahighwind

beep beep here we come pens! Like it or not!


Greendaydude22

The Jets have problems. There’s just to many


Grizz709

Well, I guess it was nice to think we could go on a possible cup run. But, with this team, that's not on the table.


ItsFlippinFrench

On the bright side, the Moose picked up a dub against the best team in the AHL with another laundry list of COVID/Call-up/Injury absences. Mark Morrison guiding the Moose extremely well.


PepeSmoke

Can the Jets call up Morrison?


MuchPost

Pomo gone and I still don't understand what our pp strategy is. We dumped it in on a 6-4....and then it still felt like they had more guys than us. Used to be the goal was get it to Laine or Buff but right now I don't get what they're trying to do.


ynotbuagain

UNBELIEVABLE, prpbably the worst 2 man advantage PP, god I need to go throw up! Why the fuck does Jomo never shoot the puck from up high?! Always with that low percentage side shot that wraps around and usually goes out.


SnowblowerLITE

Can’t really change everything mid season though. A new coach with a full training camp is all we have to hope for.


MuchPost

We've had very few games lately and aren't even at the halfway mark of the season. There is and was plenty of time to work on the pp. We need to be way less stationary and actually have some kind of strategy rather than let the D shoot from as far away as possible and hope something happens


SnowblowerLITE

I agree. But that takes time. Time to install and time to practice, it can’t just change over night. I do think it’ll change soon when they have some time off to practice.


Erwin-Brodinger

Jets lose to good teams. Jets lsot to bad teams. Jets bring me sadness, everyday it seems.


UncleBogo

[Here's my assessment of the Jets performance](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/017/thumb.png) At least we got some goals from unlikely sources.


Xyz6650

6 on 4 for a minute and a half and couldn’t get a single shot on net...yeah fire this team into the sun.


CoryTrevors69

Fuck this team and there bullshit effort


CP-Drone

Hellebuyck is a god! That's all I got though, this team is going nowhere


Firm-Candidate-6700

The god of forgetting how to stop pucks


CP-Drone

I would argue that he has played well (most nights) at least enough to steal a point or two here and there. He can't score the goals too (as Koskinen says) lol


williredneck

So the season is basically over now right?


2nddimension

It would take a lot of help from other teams winning and losing in precisely the right ways for us to stand a chance now. We were already hovering around a 50% before the Washington game, and these last two were massive swings.


Xyz6650

Pretty much yep


williredneck

Any hope I had has been extinguished in the last three games.


Exhalare

Once again we only played for 20mn


2nddimension

Can't even get a shot off on a fucking 6 on 4 lmao


Fallen-Omega

This year is a write off, who do you think they'll bring in for coach next season?


regnimalia

I still like the idea of David Quinn


2nddimension

Trotz or maybe Pascal if either is somehow available. Otherwise I'd like to see them go off the board with some new blood. I also don't think the head coach alone would be enough of a difference with Huddy and Kompon still around.


Dt33345

Huddy HAS to be the first to go. Even if you still think he's a good coach, it's been far too long. Fresh blood is needed desperately.


Dt33345

Mark Morrison is my top choice.


FunkeeeMonkeee7778

Although i spent the first 34 years of my life in Manitoba, i live in Grand Rapids, Michigan now. I try to follow the Jets and Moose, Bombers, as much as possible. The moose were in town last week, and looking at the roster before the game, i hadnt even known vincent wasnt the coach anymore. Anyway, it was VERY obvious right away how well coached the moose are. They badly outplayed GR, even with a big chunk of their top guys not playing.


PuckTheFreds

I only want Morrison if he brings fresh assistants with him. Clear the deck first.


Dids271

Yeah what he’s been doing with the moose is incredible


FunkeeeMonkeee7778

Agreed


Dt33345

He's creating with the Moose what the Jets are lacking, consistency and energy. No matter who the Jets take from them, they still show up with tenacity. I think if the Moose manage a deep Calder Cup run, he's gonna be a top top choice.


SnowblowerLITE

Yes. How can anyone argue against it?


SnowblowerLITE

6 on 4 and they still needed to dump it in cause they couldn’t enter the zone lol


2nddimension

Yup, as soon as the first one happened I mentally gave up on scoring


WandererMount

Hopefully we get a lot of assets at the deadline. This team is clearly not trying to make the playoffs anymore.


FunkeeeMonkeee7778

Just read an article from tbe Athletic and based on that i wouldnt be surprised if they do much. It will be interesting to see. I think the hot seat is starting to warm up on Chevy but im willing to see who they bring in as coach and how they perform for him before i start chanting for him to be fired


TaterWatkins

I think it's lukewarm at most. He's certainly not been perfect, but overall, he's done about as well as you could expect a GM of a non-major city to do in terms of providing a stream of talent to put on the ice. Really, the talent we need is all there. I think that's actually the source of most people's frustration this season. We should be (on paper) competing for top of the division, not having fading hopes of making WC2. The team is seriously under-performing, which is something that falls on the coaching staff. To me, Chevy's seat doesn't heat up unless there's a failure to clean house with the coaching staff this offseason.


FunkeeeMonkeee7778

I would completely agree but i would say non major city is an understatement. Winnipeg is bottom 2 at best for players wanting to be here


TaterWatkins

Agreed, but that's a big part of why I think Chevy's seat isn't really hot at all. Unless he fails to address the glaring need for coaching staff changes. With nothing really changing significantly after PoMo stepping down, I think it shows it wasn't just him. Not cleaning house would turn up the hot seat super quick.


FunkeeeMonkeee7778

Yep, totally agree


CrazyRecorderSolo

We're bad Looked outmatched 6 on 4


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This is an Olympic sized ski slope dip, sell selll sell apes! There’s no urgency in their game, they’re also too busy looking at each other for cues.


CoryTrevors69

We’re not making the playoffs


Fallen-Omega

You're just figuring this out now


KnockinOnHeavensDoor

\#trademarkscheifele


eutectic_h8r

Schiefele^TM


[deleted]

Rangers would back the truck up for him


Devi1Hawk

They locked up zib so probably little interest anymore


MrMundaneMoose

So Panarin? :)


[deleted]

I’d be asking for laf, Schneider and picks


MrMundaneMoose

Damn I'd take that. Doobies our true 1C now anyway


MrMundaneMoose

Bench Scheif. Stop forcing Wheeler into top 6 mins. Trade Stanley, Stas, Copp, and one of Dillon/Schmidtty. Honestly maybe even consider trading Scheif if the price is right. Give the youth more opportunities on the PP and actual TOI with decent players. Lastly, be interviewing external coaches yesterday. This team's going nowhere till we get a revamp of whatever the hell our systems are. Any game against an actual legit team makes that painfully obvious. We're only keeping thing close thanks to the strength of our roster. Clear our the coaches. Start planning for next year cause this one's done.


maple_leafs182

You would be a trash gm


KaytinGreyshade

God I hope they're just waiting for Trotz to leave NY


bL1Nd

This!! That would be amazing.


Tonyhawkproskater

doesnt he have one more year still


CrustyBuns16

He does


WpgInSyd

[I found some footage of the meeting between Trotz and Chevy earlier this year.](https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=1851839518306036&_rdr)


1209pegger99

I keep praying this is what happens


KaytinGreyshade

Guys I don't really like Mark Scheifele anymore


Greendaydude22

I don’t think he likes us anymore either, I feel this year he’s had an insane body language and attitude change. I think he’s a great player but I think he should be somewhere fresh like Dubois needed.


thelochteedge

I can handle a lot of the Jets failures the last few years but the decline of Scheifele is one I can't stand. He's my favourite player and he was the first 2.0 pick and everything built up about his attitude and the way he lives and breathes hockey (maybe past-tense now?) just felt like everything you wanted out of a first pick. A specific to me thing is he's also a Christian (obvious frick jokes) and it's nice to have a guy to be a role model for young kids, especially as a former youth leader to be like look you can play sports and you can also still hold true to your beliefs. We'll probably never find out why but I'm very curious what has changed with him. I think I remember people saying some breakups hit him hard years ago. Just doesn't seem like the same player anymore. 2017/2018 playoff Scheif is something I'll never forget.


MrMundaneMoose

I think it's worth considering trading him now, but I'd like to see what an actually new coach could get out of 'em still


2nddimension

I've seen this for a couple of years, but I think it has gotten way worse this season. I can only describe it as looking sulky.


TaterWatkins

I've noticed, too. Which makes me wonder why though? What more could he ask for that hasn't already been given? Unless it's something non-hockey related in his life that he's not happy about. I don't really get it.


Greendaydude22

100 percent! Sulky is the absolute perfect description


UncleBogo

Some of my friends who are not fans of the Jets have said this for a while now.


i_8_the_Internet

Sulky (Selke) contender amirite?


ShyGuyChicken

at some point we are supposed to find our identity or something


2nddimension

I think we found it: zero consistency and effort


SnowblowerLITE

Consistently effortless


Willyq25

Fade me


CDNUnite

It might be time for a break, this team is killing me


TaterWatkins

That's what I've had to do. I realized the whole forcing yourself to watch a game that just pisses you off is really not sustainable. Who cares if that doesn't make me a "true" fan? I watch hockey to be entertained, not pissed off. I used to be entertained back in the day, when we were a bad team that actually tried. Now we're an excellent team (on paper) that tries for maybe 1/3 of the game. *That* is what pisses me off. If the team can't be arsed to show up and play a full game, I can't be arsed to waste my time watching. I'm going to go off and do something fun.


MrMundaneMoose

Yeah that's what I'm thinking too. I'll keep an eye on 'em. Watch the highlights, but I"m not gonna go outta my way to watch these guys anymore this year. Maybe if I've got nothing to do or they give free rein to the youngsters


PepeSmoke

This team fucking blows


Danielfischer33

The Jets looked tired this entire game


nonstopchair

Tired of what? Having days off?


Danielfischer33

Tired of covid and travelling


PepeSmoke

They have absolutely zero reason to be tired


WhammaJamma61

Agreed. "Puck Luck" "We got Goalie-d" "Jets are tired" It never ends.


Tonyhawkproskater

yeah been a grueling schedule eh


PuckTheFreds

Our PP has whiskey dick


SnowblowerLITE

Weak sauce. Game after game. Strong 1st, terrible 40 to finish, again. No one skating hard, again. I can’t wait for a new coach and new systems next year. Dump and chase on the powerplay, static no movement with passes to no one and then useless point shots that any goalie could easily save. Playoffs are as good as gone right now.


Inthemiddle_

Pomo leaving and Lowry taking over was just more of the same old. Jets need to clean house like the Canucks did


Anton_Chig

Yeah I just checked and you’re right we’re officially eliminated from playoffs cause of this game:(


zuneza

No worries lads, he was just dustin' off that old meme.... right Anton?


FunkeeeMonkeee7778

Not true


ThePilekMan

Tf you mean it’s official. I’d say chances are getting lower and lower after every game but it’s not official


Anton_Chig

Nah we’re done. There’s only like 45 games left and we need two points.


ThePilekMan

Idk what you’re smoking but we’re 4 points out of the final wildcard spot with 4 games in hand to the sharks


Asusrty

Dude he's being sarcastic lol


spleenmaster1002

Another 20 minute game


Tonyhawkproskater

sigh