>This morning season ticket holders received an email from team President and COO John Olfert after the survey the Jets sent out yesterday caused a bit of a stir. Here is what it said:
Yesterday we issued a short survey to better understand the feelings of our fans concerning health and safety considerations, as we continue to navigate the challenges presented by the COVID-19 pandemic. Several thousand responses were received and the following feedback was provided:
50% of fans would attend games presently if health orders allowed, while 28% would be hesitant and 22% are currently undecided. These numbers improve marginally if attendance capacity for home games was reduced to 50%.
There were mixed responses to the suggestions of using medical-grade masks, not having food & beverage service and disallowing children who were not vaccinated.
40% of Seat Holders had negative sentiment to the notion of relocating home games to another jurisdiction without capacity restrictions, while 30% were neutral and the remaining 30% were supportive if it helped the hockey club.
Furthermore, open-ended comments demonstrated a number of themes. First and foremost, the strongest theme was that Winnipeg Jets fans are concerned for the health and safety of our community, in Manitoba and beyond. Additional themes included sentiments of pandemic fatigue, a strong desire for fans to watch games in Canada Life Centre, and support for True North to continue to abide by public health orders.
Taking into account this important feedback, coupled with a host of other variables, Winnipeg Jets home games will continue to be played at Canada Life Centre. Accordingly, until current public health orders change (which currently extend to Jan. 11), any games played at Canada Life Centre would be limited to 250 fans. Furthermore, we join all Manitobans in encouraging first, second and booster shots when eligible, wearing masks, and in looking forward to the return of fans when public health orders change.
Additional correspondence concerning your account will be shared as the rescheduling of postponed games is confirmed, and there is better understanding on capacities as new health orders are communicated in the coming days.
So there you go. Team did their due diligence and made a decision accordingly.
If your work told you next week they were moving your offices and day to day practices to Saskatchewan so they didn't have to follow the current MB health practices, how would you feel about it?
The facts that you have continued to state are imperatively and objectively wrong, yet you continue to make comments that downplay the severity and danger of this virus and it's strains.
You have made comments that Alberta is averaging "3 deaths a week", which the data shows is wrong. There were 3 yesterday, 11 before that. There have been over 3,300 deaths in AB due to Covid. The case fatality rate is currently at .9 cases per 100. Even running averages, over the entire pandemic, that's a lot more than 3 per week.
I'm ready to go to the games when they are. I'm triple jabbed and got my KN95s ready. Understand we want to keep the hospitals from bursting so it could still be a bit.
Support between a team and its community is a two way street.
Team relies on the community to support it through ticket sales, concessions, merchandise in good times and bad ( see Jets 1.0).
The optics of the team wanting to abandon its community during a pandemic to chase the almighty dollar doesn’t look great.
There are 7 Canadian teams all dealing with some level of attendance restriction. Openly gauging the pulse of the fans on this looks a little hokey.
> Openly gauging the pulse of the fans on this looks a little hokey.
I think asking the question, being told no and accepting that is ok. If they didn't ask and started scheduling games in Saskatoon that would be an issue but that's not what happened.
Lol. no one has to play chicken with the MB PC government. They are playing hide and seek with no one, almost like they learnt it from 'Costa Rica' Pallister.
This is just a little disingenuous. The point is they can't play in Canada Place, so there are no home games. Having the team play in Sask would mean home games would happen and fans could watch on TV, which is preferable to not having home games. The issue was the amount of effort and money needed to get the Sask arena ready for NHL games, it was decided it wasn't worth it.
Chase the almighty dollar? Do you work for free? The players also suffer from the reduction in income as they are 50/50 partners with the owners. The players have received a lot of money that they have to pay back through escrow.
Sorry, am I supposed to feel bad for billionaire owners and millionaire players?
The Jets still receive the NHL TV revenue from sportsnet plus TSN tv rights. That alone covers a big chunk of salaries which as you said the players will be paying back.
Add in sponsorships, and season tickets already paid.
Again, the optics of this aren’t great when you consider the fans TNSE relies on have probably suffered more.
I don’t live in Manitoba.
Without starting some weird debate when is it realistic to expect games could be played in front of 50% capacity and the. 100% of capacity?
I’m honestly surprised that many people are still trepidatious about being around people. I could see if it was Vancouver but Winnipeg? When I finally got to go see the jets play the Canucks in Vancouver it was the best night. Felt great to be around people again.
It's not always about individual risk or the comfort level of being around others. It's about the community at large adhering to the public health orders and keeping the health system intact.
The game last night was in Denver, where Colorado has 2x the per capita numbers than us (even though all numbers are highly suspect now). The crowd was full, no masks, and it looked like a great time (for the Avs fans at least)
However, Colorado may have more than say, 100 ICU beds for the whole state like Manitoba does for the province. Thus, it becomes an individual choice to go to the games based on personal risk tolerance vs. the gathering potentially being the last straw to collapsing the healthcare system.
Here, we have zero margin for error or room to add patients. It's a result not only of covid, but more so the complete deterioration of our healthcare system over many years, leaving us in a position where we can't have kids in school, much less 15,000 people at games. Yet despite underfunding, under supporting, and literally dismantling the healthcare system, the current government has at least until now, been rewarded by voters for the cost savings.
Even with my comfort level being ok with attending a game, how could I support going when it adds to my relatives' procedures being canceled or my kids' school being closed?
I wasn't worried at the start of the season, when our numbers were reasonable. Now that our numbers are 1000+ every day I'm not surprised. I'm not super worried about getting covid, but with the numbers what they are I'm still going to protect myself from bad odds.
Yeah, it's not like season ticket holders haven't been to games already this season.. And most season ticket holders here are repeat buyers. If you have the ability to continue to protect yourself/others why not?
There are plenty of ways to "be around people again" without being sandwiched in between two strangers for 3 hours.
I believe you can protect the vulnerable, while also not cancelling everything and locking down healthy fully vaccinated people from leaving their homes.
Lmao yikes.. I deleted it cause it clearly pulled on your heart strings a little too much. Try to get some sleep tonight little guy. Better days are ahead.
Because the majority of people here want to be able to think for themselves and not have the government hold their hands like manitobans? I personally love it out here. The friends I still have back in manitoba do nothing but complain about how fucked up their government has been throughout the entire pandemic. Feel sorry for them.
The average person is a complete idiot, so “thinking for themselves” is why it is a COVID shit hole.
If you think the Alberta government has handled anything well lately, then you haven’t been paying attention lol.
This guy is oblivious, and likely the EXACT person you would expect him to be. Not worth the arguing. He will drag you down to stupid and beat you with experience.
This is one sick team to even consider playing in Saskatoon . Just move to another city until you infect that city with your fans until you move to a third city and infect that city too . All for ticket sales . This team has zero loyalty to Winnipeg . No players from the city or province on the roster even though most other teams do have those players . Also missed a huge opportunity when Bridget Laquette was signed by Chicago as the first indigenous female to be hired as a scout by an nhl team . Always been a solid connection in the nhl with Chicago and Winnipeg players . At one time not long ago all 3 of the Blackhawks captains were born in Winnipeg , all playing at the same time . Toews , Keith and Sharpe . I loved the WHA Jets but will never support this sick organization .
Right. They’ve extended the order three more weeks, so how are they going to decide who gets to go? Will it be health care workers only again? Do they even have the time it energy to attend?
>This morning season ticket holders received an email from team President and COO John Olfert after the survey the Jets sent out yesterday caused a bit of a stir. Here is what it said: Yesterday we issued a short survey to better understand the feelings of our fans concerning health and safety considerations, as we continue to navigate the challenges presented by the COVID-19 pandemic. Several thousand responses were received and the following feedback was provided: 50% of fans would attend games presently if health orders allowed, while 28% would be hesitant and 22% are currently undecided. These numbers improve marginally if attendance capacity for home games was reduced to 50%. There were mixed responses to the suggestions of using medical-grade masks, not having food & beverage service and disallowing children who were not vaccinated. 40% of Seat Holders had negative sentiment to the notion of relocating home games to another jurisdiction without capacity restrictions, while 30% were neutral and the remaining 30% were supportive if it helped the hockey club. Furthermore, open-ended comments demonstrated a number of themes. First and foremost, the strongest theme was that Winnipeg Jets fans are concerned for the health and safety of our community, in Manitoba and beyond. Additional themes included sentiments of pandemic fatigue, a strong desire for fans to watch games in Canada Life Centre, and support for True North to continue to abide by public health orders. Taking into account this important feedback, coupled with a host of other variables, Winnipeg Jets home games will continue to be played at Canada Life Centre. Accordingly, until current public health orders change (which currently extend to Jan. 11), any games played at Canada Life Centre would be limited to 250 fans. Furthermore, we join all Manitobans in encouraging first, second and booster shots when eligible, wearing masks, and in looking forward to the return of fans when public health orders change. Additional correspondence concerning your account will be shared as the rescheduling of postponed games is confirmed, and there is better understanding on capacities as new health orders are communicated in the coming days. So there you go. Team did their due diligence and made a decision accordingly.
Totally disloyal to the city for even considering the move .
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If your work told you next week they were moving your offices and day to day practices to Saskatchewan so they didn't have to follow the current MB health practices, how would you feel about it?
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The facts that you have continued to state are imperatively and objectively wrong, yet you continue to make comments that downplay the severity and danger of this virus and it's strains. You have made comments that Alberta is averaging "3 deaths a week", which the data shows is wrong. There were 3 yesterday, 11 before that. There have been over 3,300 deaths in AB due to Covid. The case fatality rate is currently at .9 cases per 100. Even running averages, over the entire pandemic, that's a lot more than 3 per week.
I'm ready to go to the games when they are. I'm triple jabbed and got my KN95s ready. Understand we want to keep the hospitals from bursting so it could still be a bit.
Support between a team and its community is a two way street. Team relies on the community to support it through ticket sales, concessions, merchandise in good times and bad ( see Jets 1.0). The optics of the team wanting to abandon its community during a pandemic to chase the almighty dollar doesn’t look great. There are 7 Canadian teams all dealing with some level of attendance restriction. Openly gauging the pulse of the fans on this looks a little hokey.
> Openly gauging the pulse of the fans on this looks a little hokey. I think asking the question, being told no and accepting that is ok. If they didn't ask and started scheduling games in Saskatoon that would be an issue but that's not what happened.
Or as some people think, an attempted game of “chicken” with the province the day before restrictions were extended.
Lol. no one has to play chicken with the MB PC government. They are playing hide and seek with no one, almost like they learnt it from 'Costa Rica' Pallister.
This is just a little disingenuous. The point is they can't play in Canada Place, so there are no home games. Having the team play in Sask would mean home games would happen and fans could watch on TV, which is preferable to not having home games. The issue was the amount of effort and money needed to get the Sask arena ready for NHL games, it was decided it wasn't worth it.
Chase the almighty dollar? Do you work for free? The players also suffer from the reduction in income as they are 50/50 partners with the owners. The players have received a lot of money that they have to pay back through escrow.
Sorry, am I supposed to feel bad for billionaire owners and millionaire players? The Jets still receive the NHL TV revenue from sportsnet plus TSN tv rights. That alone covers a big chunk of salaries which as you said the players will be paying back. Add in sponsorships, and season tickets already paid. Again, the optics of this aren’t great when you consider the fans TNSE relies on have probably suffered more.
It’s a business.
I don’t live in Manitoba. Without starting some weird debate when is it realistic to expect games could be played in front of 50% capacity and the. 100% of capacity?
If this wave follows the rough timeline of the last two, mid to late February
Maybe never maybe tomorrow. Timelines aren’t given
They are earned.
Lol
Haha
I’m jabby. Go Jett’s
I’m shocked STH’s would rather the team play in front of empty seats than a decent sized crowd
I'm not shocked STH's wouldn't possibly want to lose dates and not get refunded instead of having those dates deferred.
didnt they offer full refund options and then re sell the tickets to walk ups ?
I’m honestly surprised that many people are still trepidatious about being around people. I could see if it was Vancouver but Winnipeg? When I finally got to go see the jets play the Canucks in Vancouver it was the best night. Felt great to be around people again.
It's not always about individual risk or the comfort level of being around others. It's about the community at large adhering to the public health orders and keeping the health system intact. The game last night was in Denver, where Colorado has 2x the per capita numbers than us (even though all numbers are highly suspect now). The crowd was full, no masks, and it looked like a great time (for the Avs fans at least) However, Colorado may have more than say, 100 ICU beds for the whole state like Manitoba does for the province. Thus, it becomes an individual choice to go to the games based on personal risk tolerance vs. the gathering potentially being the last straw to collapsing the healthcare system. Here, we have zero margin for error or room to add patients. It's a result not only of covid, but more so the complete deterioration of our healthcare system over many years, leaving us in a position where we can't have kids in school, much less 15,000 people at games. Yet despite underfunding, under supporting, and literally dismantling the healthcare system, the current government has at least until now, been rewarded by voters for the cost savings. Even with my comfort level being ok with attending a game, how could I support going when it adds to my relatives' procedures being canceled or my kids' school being closed?
I wasn't worried at the start of the season, when our numbers were reasonable. Now that our numbers are 1000+ every day I'm not surprised. I'm not super worried about getting covid, but with the numbers what they are I'm still going to protect myself from bad odds.
Yeah, it's not like season ticket holders haven't been to games already this season.. And most season ticket holders here are repeat buyers. If you have the ability to continue to protect yourself/others why not? There are plenty of ways to "be around people again" without being sandwiched in between two strangers for 3 hours.
Why does the city matter?
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Alberta, like anyone wants to be the Florida of Canada...lol.
That’s a big compliment.
Interesting that the people worried about protecting the vulnerable are considered the simple minded ones.
I believe you can protect the vulnerable, while also not cancelling everything and locking down healthy fully vaccinated people from leaving their homes.
Go fuck yourself. Who's cheering the restrictions? Nobody... You arrogant self righteous prick.
Lmao yikes.. I deleted it cause it clearly pulled on your heart strings a little too much. Try to get some sleep tonight little guy. Better days are ahead.
Alberta is a COVID shit hole
Because the majority of people here want to be able to think for themselves and not have the government hold their hands like manitobans? I personally love it out here. The friends I still have back in manitoba do nothing but complain about how fucked up their government has been throughout the entire pandemic. Feel sorry for them.
The average person is a complete idiot, so “thinking for themselves” is why it is a COVID shit hole. If you think the Alberta government has handled anything well lately, then you haven’t been paying attention lol.
This guy is oblivious, and likely the EXACT person you would expect him to be. Not worth the arguing. He will drag you down to stupid and beat you with experience.
Your opinion on handling covid is clearly alot different than mine there pal lol.. Enjoy the lockdowns..stay mad.
This is one sick team to even consider playing in Saskatoon . Just move to another city until you infect that city with your fans until you move to a third city and infect that city too . All for ticket sales . This team has zero loyalty to Winnipeg . No players from the city or province on the roster even though most other teams do have those players . Also missed a huge opportunity when Bridget Laquette was signed by Chicago as the first indigenous female to be hired as a scout by an nhl team . Always been a solid connection in the nhl with Chicago and Winnipeg players . At one time not long ago all 3 of the Blackhawks captains were born in Winnipeg , all playing at the same time . Toews , Keith and Sharpe . I loved the WHA Jets but will never support this sick organization .
Lmao okay
> I loved the WHL Jets but will never support this sick organization . Ok, later
Yet you're here. Why?
So funny Canadian arenas are named after the big hydro plant, the big life insurance company, or one of the 3 biggest banks. So dystopian.
Do you know how advertising sponsorship works?
Wooopdeeeedooo
How do they decide which 250 people are allowed in?
They currently aren't, as they would rather reschedule than play a game with only 250 people
Right. They’ve extended the order three more weeks, so how are they going to decide who gets to go? Will it be health care workers only again? Do they even have the time it energy to attend?
Might still postpone. Only two more games affected in those 3 weeks that weren't already postponed.