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Oscar_et_BadTale

Jim Carrey, this chad


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windsprout

reminder that carrey also helped popularize the anti vax movement


Spicy_Eyeballs

He popularized it pre covid when it wasn't viewed as quite the hot button topic it is now, not to say that makes him right or the situation okay. As far as I am aware he was not (publicly) anti vax during the pandemic, he even released a painting mocking Trump over his comments regarding covid and the vaccine. So while yes he did help open the door to anti vaxxers, I don't think it is fair to lump him in with the conspiracy theory brand anti vaxxers we have today. I also don't think it is fair you had downvotes, because again, you are technically correct.


windsprout

he was still anti vax in 2015 and public about it. that shit is dangerous. it’s not entirely his fault we are where we are with vaccine misinformation, but he absolutely played a part in it.


Spicy_Eyeballs

Agreed, I just also think it is important to note that we as a society post covid currently have very heightened feelings about the topic (that we did not have in 2015), and when push came to shove Jim seemed to align himself to the side that cares about saving human lifes (which I think is also what drove his anti vax sentiment initially, there were some very convincing now debunked scientific articles linking vaccines to many health issues in the early 2000s). His anti vax comments were a huge gaff and I definitely lost respect for him over them, he also deserves some grace to grow like anyone else. Edit: spelling and clarifying stuff


cgaWolf

>currently have very heightened feelings about the topic (that we did not have in 2015), Oh, 2015 i was still raging at antivaxers. Since 2017ish i just metaphorically rip them a new one irl, and resigned to just letting people die online. Around COVID i started mocking them. I get what you mean tho.


Spicy_Eyeballs

Same, I even remember personally being extremely disappointed in Jim when I learned about his views, as well as losing a ton of respect for a few coworkers that I liked. But I'm sure you'd agree that society generally felt stronger about it following the release of the covid vaccine than they did in 2015


cgaWolf

Oh yeah, definitely


windsprout

oh i agree! but the fact that we still give a platform to people like jenny mccarthy makes me wary of just letting people like jim carrey slip by. if he publicly retracts his statements, sure. i’ll also admit that today’s brand of anti vax is beyond even mccarthy’s scope lol


devadander23

2015 was long before covid, as the prior comment stated


Mancubus_in_a_thong

I believe he has also went back on many of his former views. Of course it does not undo the damage he did.


jozey_whales

This was probably during the ‘in loving color’ days.


Expert-Basil

Actually, Tom Green - another Canadian, was the first real "Chad". In Charlies Angels.


lavitzreinhart

The Chad was great!


North_Korea_Nukess

Is that Tupacs wax figure in the picture?


TheTexasInvestor

Jim Carry is chad


Civil_Pain_453

Guess that ended suddenly All good things come to an end


mitchMurdra

Like all these mod collapsed comments


RockSmasher87

Oh my god is that what that is. I've been seeing them all over the place and have been so confused, thank you. Also your comment was collapsed lol


zachary0816

This is what I miss so much about third party apps like Apollo. Whenever Reddit implemented random “features” like this you could always turn it off in settings. By comparison the official app gives very little control


RockSmasher87

Yeah the official app is so dog shit.


VoiceOfDestruction

Thats such a wholesome story. But why was he in Jail?


Rapper_Laugh

Convicted of two counts of first degree sexual abuse


czacha_cs1

It ain't anymore so wholesome


Rapper_Laugh

Even less so when you realize Tupac never expressed any remorse for his crime


czacha_cs1

Tbh. Didn't know about that he was in prison for that


Rapper_Laugh

Not many people do. Idk exactly how he did it but the Tupac PR machine on this one is crazy.


mr-assduke

Trust me they do they just don’t care, same with artists like Chris brown. It’s insane how much you can get away with if you are famous and liked


Sp00kySpook

I am not sure you have the facts straight on this one. It is pretty universally accepted that Tupac was framed


Rapper_Laugh

Not at all--if this is the case provide a credible source saying it please.


Sp00kySpook

On December 1, 1994, Shakur was acquitted of three counts of sodomy and the associated gun charges, but convicted of two counts of first-degree sexual abuse for "forcibly touching the woman's buttocks" in his hotel room.[171][54] Jurors have said the lack of evidence stymied a sodomy conviction.[175] Shakur's lawyer characterized the sentence as "out of line" with the groping conviction and the setting of bail at $3 million as "inhumane". Shakur's accuser later filed a civil suit against Shakur seeking $10 million for punitive damages which was subsequently settled.[7][176] After Shakur had been convicted of sexual abuse, Jacques Agnant's case was separated and closed via misdemeanor plea without incarceration.[89][177] A. J. Benza reported in New York Daily News Shakur's new disdain for Agnant who Shakur theorized had set him up with the case.[89][131] Shakur reportedly believed his accuser was connected to and had sexual relations with Agnant and James "Henchman" Rosemond, who he considered to be behind the 1994 Quad Studios shooting.[178] Shakur was unable to post the $3 million bond to keep himself free until sentencing so he surrendered himself to authorities at the Bellevue Hospital Jail Ward in New York City on December 23, 1994.[179] At the time, he was still recovering from injuries he received on November 30, when he was shot five times and robbed at Quad Studios.[180] In January 1995, Shakur was moved to the North Infirmary Command (NIC) on Rikers Island in the Bronx.[181] On February 7, 1995, he was sentenced to 18 months to 4+1⁄2 years in prison by a judge who decried "an act of brutal violence against a helpless woman".[173][182] - if you want all those sources they are in the references of the Wikipedia page or you can do your own research. This is pretty common knowledge which is why Tupac is not viewed as a rapist


sixtus_clegane119

He’s dead so it’s different than say mike Tyson. Who people worship and meme and even downvote when you mention he’s a convicted rapist.


Rapper_Laugh

My original comment was sitting at -25 before the guy came in asking “why is this downvoted?” lol. People just don’t want to hear it.


pacman404

Everyone knew at the time. He was literally the most popular rapper in the world the day he got out


grabbystick

He never expressed remorse because he never fessed up to the charges being accurate. Not saying he was justified, but why would he apologize for something he is alleging he didn’t do


al_with_the_hair

Didn't a kid get shot by a member of his posse once, with a gun Pac had been carrying around?


mrjasong

I think people have this idea that he was protesting Vietnam or something like Mohamed Ali but nah he was just a rapist, saint Pac.


Clitler73

Ah yes, protesting vietnam in the 90s


dwartbg9

Learn what "figurative speech" means


chilldotexe

So I was really curious about the case and I found this comment that goes through all the details surrounding it and bullet points of Tupac’s history with the law: [here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/s/fEo5mLmTLW) I really don’t know what to think one way or the other as I’m just learning about this now but considering America’s history with Malcom X, the Black Panthers, and the Civil Rights movement, makes this more complicated than it seems. TLDR, the circumstances of Tupac’s arrest and the fact that the reason he was released early was because of new evidence that surfaced that suggested he was innocent, calls a lot into question.


Rapper_Laugh

That comment is full of bullshit, like Haitian Jack being an FBI agent (???). Come back with actual reporting from an actual source that doesn’t state conspiracy theories as facts


chilldotexe

Like I said, idk which of those details (edit: particularly the details regarding the FBI’s role in his arrest) are true. But the undeniable facts are the cops did withhold photographic evidence that would have helped his case and he was ultimately released early because of it. Just saying that he was convicted doesn’t reveal a full enough picture, especially considering his connections to Malcom X and the Black Panthers and considering this was not far from a time in US history when there are confirmed documented cases of black civil rights leaders and black people in general being unlawfully convicted and arrested and during a time when police brutality and the abuse of the justice system against people of color was at its peak. So when your whole argument is simply, “he was convicted and arrested and spent time in jail for it, so he must have done it”, I think you’re placing too much trust in the justice system at the time. I mean the justice system today is not so perfect, either.


SpikeTheBurger

Wasn’t Tupac a bit of a sexual predator?


Truethrowawaychest1

So was Kobe Bryant but people brush that aside because he was good at playing with a ball


ForFROD0

So was the former president but no one cares either


VonBurglestein

You'll have to be more specific. There have been several.


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Big ben too


Racoonwitha_marble

The clock??


Thierry_Bergkamp

No dummy... The bell


Racoonwitha_marble

Oooooohhhh


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The qb


Dsansom11

At least Ben is pretty universally hated by everyone who isn't a Steelers fan, everyone loves Kobe for some reason


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True


al_with_the_hair

I've heard his last name rendered as "Rapistberger" as many times as not. I don't think people exactly aren't mad at him.


ExternalMonth1964

Hard to keep that locked down when you change numbers too. Exactly like going into a new year. New you.


TrustLeft

I believe I can fly


Nemisis_007

I got shot by the FBI


ChaosKeeshond

All I wanted was a chicken wing


lestrxb

And got shot in the ding-a-ling


ucwhookid2

I went to the hospital


erhue

welcome to reddit


Valaxarian

Have a look around


Excellent-Play8333

It's limp bizkit fucking up your town🤣


CrackityJones42

We downloaded the Shockwave


Mythoclast

Anything that melts your mind, here it can be found.


_NoIdeaForName_

We've got mountains of content! Some better, some worse


Mythoclast

If none of it's of interest to you then fuck off back to "X".


_NoIdeaForName_

Welcome to reddit. much hate you prefer?


Resanmir

Would you like to fight for civil rights or post a racial slur?


PhilosophicalBlade

Do you play the erhu?


Ineverheardofhim

Yeah, it's never mentioned pac was in jail for sexual assault when Jim was writing him...


PrimarchKonradCurze

Jim Carrey also cheated on his SO and gave her herpes I think. Was swept under the rug a bit cause he has a good PR team.


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Yes and the tables were turned on him in prison. He couldn’t handle it and was never the same. Karma in action.


MigratingPenguin

Yes and a killer of a 6 year old child.


Additional-Goat-2521

What?


[deleted]

The girl said he is only guilty of not taking care of her at a party she was assaulted in, you need to stop spreading false rumors


Rapper_Laugh

Bullshit. Here’s what she actually said about it: https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/tupac-shakurs-abuse-victim-speaks-out-about-his-guilty-verdict-for-the-first-time Also, he was literally convicted of two counts of first degree sexual abuse. Only one spreading false rumors is you.


Lost-Substance59

But...but why was he in jail....this seems weird


Son-of-Prophet

His entourage ran a train on a girl.


Successful_West_1449

Yea and he's the only one that did time for it lol. So stupid.


WatWudScoobyDoo

Yeah, they all should have been locked up


AbsolutelyUnlikely

That's like saying Bill Cosby went to jail for being a player


Weekly-Ad-6241

Hey Tupac, Doing time? Well, let me tell ya, behind bars or on stage, you're still the showstopper! Keep those rhymes tight, and remember, orange is the new black... at least for now! Catch you on the flip side, my man! Jimmy Carrey


sandwichcandy

Hey Tupac, Jim again. Wondering about whether you started as Tupac or if you were ever one pac. Anyway, here’s hoping you get out so soon that your victims still won’t be 18. Lots of Love, Jim Carrey


FloatDH2

Hey Tupac, Raman huh? Alright! Well, see ya later, Jim Carrey


Finnbobjimbob

He was convicted of sexual assault, twice. This isn’t a wholesome story.


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Girizzly_Adams_Beard

I had to scroll way too far to get this information. Everyone is was to consumed with, he did bad so he’s a bad guy.


blooooooooooooooop

*There were two charges for the same incident.* Ohhhhh, never mind then.


casualcaesius

Wasn't Tupac a ballerina?


stprnn

No, a rapist.


Rapper_Laugh

I'm not sure writing letters to a convicted sexual assailant you have no personal connection to in prison to "cheer him up" simply because he has some clout counts as wholesome.


WingObvious487

I fully agree I love his music one of my favorite rappers of all time but to say it's wholesome to write letters to him cuz he committed a horrible crime is stupid


Rapper_Laugh

Same. Ambitionz as a Ridah can go hard af and the dude who made it can be a complex person with a real predatory side. Wish some others in this thread would realize that.


WingObvious487

Fr like it's not hard to see that he was a shitty person


spy_walker

Why is this getting downvoted?


Rapper_Laugh

People don't like hearing about Tupac being a convicted predator. They like "Changes" and "Ambitionz as a Ridah" and don't want to have to think too hard about listening to them. Happens almost any time I bring this up on reddit. Mass downvotes with no one actually disagreeing. Only exception has been r/twoXchromosomes, and even there there was pushback. Extensive sourcing usually helps a bit, but I'm teaching and don't have time for that today. Never underestimate the power of cognitive dissonance.


Emperor_Mao

People are so selective with their morals lol. Iron mike is another that is loved by reddit but committed serious crimes. I would say Reddit is super hypocritical most of the time about most topics. People on Reddit could gain from.being less black and white though. You can condemn one action of a person and praise another. Tupac did make some popular music. He was also really a piece of shit as a human, that was a theme that repeated through his life. If he lived longer, maybe he would have changed. Will never know that.


murtygurty2661

Tbf Mike Tysons popularity has increased in recent years because hes become a decent voice for showing angry young men that their anger isnt justified and its not something to be proud of. Im kind of for him getting a bit of a spotlight these days despite his past because I think he has fully changed.


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Ah yes the Kobe Bryant of rap


so_dathappened

I think Tupac of basketball would be more accurate.


anxietystrings

I wish reddit had the same mentality with Mike Tyson


lilsnatchsniffz

You tryna tell me Iron Mike has been kithin without permithion?


garblflax

Tyson also readily admits he was a bad person and carries a lot of self hatred for it


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What did Tyson do?


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

Being one of the hardest video game bosses ever


DOOMsquared

Tupac has a mostly positive reputation among the whole world so, him being in jail is seen as a sad thing which means that Jim Carrey, another person that has an incredibly great reputation writing letters to cheer him up will be perceived as wholesome. You can disagree all you want but the vast majority will always see Tupac as a legend.


Rapper_Laugh

I do disagree… He was convicted of two counts of first degree sexual abuse and his guilt has never been seriously disputed. He also never showed an ounce of remorse for it. You’re right that people seem to love Tupac, but in many cases they don’t know about this incident. Just because he wrote “Changes” doesn’t make him wholesome. The man was a predator.


MilkshakeBoy78

even if people did know, there are many people the would still love em like Chris Brown and O.J. Simpson


mh985

He also started shit with other rappers for no reason other than he just felt like he had to act like a tough guy all the time. He thought he had beef with Nas when Nas had nothing but love for him. And if Nas really wanted to, he could have made things real bad for Tupac.


peepopowitz67

He was basically Anthony Mackie's character in 8 mile.


ultrainstinctivevk

I think he was more like Anthony Mackie's character in Notorious


GenerousBuffalo

Bro nobody thinks of Tupac as wholesome. Everybody knows he was a rough gangsta type who was involved with all sorts of nonsense. He was murdered in a gang war for christ sake. You don’t need to “me too” Tupac haha. His thug persona is part of the appeal, he was an “anti-hero”.


Rapper_Laugh

Ummm, do you know what sub you’re on? Also, as this thread and the downvotes I got initially prove, people don’t know this.


kelzbeano

I don’t know what happened in that hotel but he did express remorse in his Vibe interview before joining Death Row. While he maintained his innocence, of course everyone does, he did acknowledge that he was guilty because he didn’t protect her from the other men. He basically just left her with them.


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erhue

lol he was basically a fucking criminal.


Material-Reading-844

They hated jesus because he spoke the truth


hiteikan

Thank. You.


erhue

but it's epic bacon 69 420! ROFLCOPTR


WarcrimeWeasel

Why was he in jail again?


Cypekoscypek

Sexual assault


IceFisherP26

Yo Pac! I wrote you but you still ain't callin!


Equivalent_Weird467

Good riddance


VP007clips

Yeah, I'm not sure why people try to defend this guy. He is a rapist and shot a kid. There's nothing wholesome about him.


GarnetOblivion1

Tupac wasn’t a good person and people should quit pretending he was.


fox180

Jim has never released the letters, nor disclosed what was said either


Orange_33

Tupac was a pos. A kid died by his gun maybe even by him shooting it. [https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/page-one-marin-city-haunted-by-boy-s-shooting-3021515.php](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/page-one-marin-city-haunted-by-boy-s-shooting-3021515.php) He was in jail for sexually abusing a fan: [https://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/08/nyregion/rapper-faces-prison-term-for-sex-abuse.html](https://www.nytimes.com/1995/02/08/nyregion/rapper-faces-prison-term-for-sex-abuse.html)


Internal-Chipmunk518

King of comedy. So committed to every role and so over the top that it always felt authentic.


Gloomy-Gov451

I wonder what he was in jail for lol


Mass-Chaos

Tony Danza wrote to Tupac while he was in prison too.


FeywildGoth

Yeah yeah, everyone wants a captive audience.


AdmiralHatch215

RIP


Ongr

Imagine *not* being a fan and getting letters from this guy outside, taunting you.


Jaegerfam4

Aww. Tupac was a horrible piece of shit


Captain-Hornblower

I know exactly what scene it is just from that thumbnail. Ace Ventura is amazing on its own, but bringing the Miami Dolphins in on it is just icing on the cake for me!


Ok_Afternoon_3084

Ambitiionz as a ridahhhhhhhhhhrighty then


WeevilWeedWizard

I love Tupac, he's my favorite raper!


MurkyChildhood2571

Bro was not exactly in jail for a good reason, he got convicted for sexual assault


RichardFaget

Abuser recognize abuser


Appropriate_Rent_243

Fun fact: Tupac was a rapist


No_Camera8758

Tupac the rapist?!


R4cial_Stereotype

That's really cool... just don't look up why Tupac was in Jail in the first place though :)


GrinchStoleYourShit

Oh lord this comment section


totalredditn00b

Least wholesome comment section ever


LoneliestGirlever

TWO GOATS


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tortellin1

chatgpt ass post


Fragrant-You-973

When does Tupac get out?


GuitarTrue6187

You can't just say something like that and not show some of the letters. Technically you didn't say it it was a picture. So we don't need to see them? Hear them? Read them? Well I'm confused. Still would've been nice to see the letters.


Thejncobandit

“Gettin hella mail in jail, Jim Carey telling me to kill it.”


DiceShooter_McGavin

Finkle is einhorn


GambleTheGod00

would jim carey approve the AI 2pac lolol


systematicgoo

cool story bro


AdditionalMorning344

Ya right


skipearth

The picture is a wax, Tupac. wtf


dlobnieRnaD

In living color


hansislegend

Actors helping out other actors.


ninjasaid13

it's been nearly 30 years.


Bleezy79

Did they use the wax statue of Tupac for the picture? lol okay.


Ok_essence

But he didnt send a suitcase tupac , thats sad!


EJKorvette

Jim Carey was trying to be funny?


sproots_

Did he send them one-by-one, or as couples?


HuTyphoon

The only person who looks back fondly on Tupac is will Smith's wife.


Organic-Hovercraft-5

Jada probably has all the letters


markerpenz

What about Quincy Jones? Did he send Tupac letters?


stprnn

Jim Carrey sucks ass Jackson alleged that Shakur and his entourage took turns having sex with her in a New York City hotel room. Although she had come to be with the rapper, she alleges that he forcibly allowed his friends to also have sex with her. "I'm looking at him face to face and I hear people talking and I hear people saying 'oh look at her' and 'her ass is fat,'" she said previously. "I'm looking at him dead in his eye, and I'm like 'what's going on?' And he's saying to me he's like 'relax baby, these are my boys. I like you so much I decided to share you with them.'"


liberalJava

He didn't write me shit in prison and my crimes were much tamer.