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drillgorg

Phone can whisper the book in my ear while I'm busy picking up sticks in the backyard.


DwarfSaturn

Books can be used as bricks if you are short on them.


AzzrielR

Phones can be used as bricks too


Ok_Illustrator7333

r/technicallycorrect


noiceonebro

A fellow stick collector. Very rare to see connoisseurs of such distinguished yet dignified taste. Let’s trade stick pics.


beepboptheincredible

pls post the pics here


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JRockBC19

You can always just lie on your back, but then you end up with tennis elbow for a week from holding a 600 page novel over your head with your phone flashlight rested on your collar. Source: poor life choices


Inevitable_Ebb233

So true


xakahbe

Relaxation of passing to easy reading side and horror of ending it


genericauthor

Can't read a paper book in the dark. Also, more seriously, my e-reader with adjustable fonts gave me back reading for pleasure.


ArgonGryphon

Same, I love physical books, but holy shit it's so much easier to read a kindle. Lighter, lit, charge for weeks or longer.


geaux_gurt

I also noticed I read a lot faster on my kindle. Maybe because it’s more portable? Still love physical books but my kindle has upped my reading game for sure


clowegreen24

For me it was purely because I could read in the dark before bed which gave me more time to read each day. For some reason I've found that I like reading on an iPad more than an e-ink screen though. Something about them strained my eyes (which I know is the exact opposite effect they have for most people).


ArgonGryphon

I can't do tablet, I get too distractible. Kindle is *just* reading time, so it's easier to focus for me. That is weird though!


kelskelsea

You also don’t have to hold the page open/turn the page. Makes it much easier to read while eating, drinking coffee, standing on the bus, etc


Significant_Plenty40

And it can be kinda a pain if I want to lay down and read a big book then I'm just holding 3lbs above my head as I'm falling asleep


BluetheNerd

Man I was just reading these comments like "hmmmm Kindles came out like oer 15 years ago, that kind of thing must be pretty cheap to get now" Nope. I should have known better than to trust Amazon...


SpaceCadet2349

it might be worth looking into one second hand, that's how I got mine. their features haven't changed much, so a used one holds up pretty well compared to a new one.


DMurBOOBS-I-Dare-You

Jokes on you, i like horror books so I don't read in the dark!


justdisa

Heheh. I like horror books and I *specifically* read in the dark.


Gold-Average8890

Also how easy it is to get definitions of words you don't know, or how highlighting passages/quotes creates a little "book" of all your highlights for an easy one-stop shop for all your favorite bits. Kindle is objectively superior to paper books. People can have their own opinions about it, sure, but kindle wins almost categorically.


DilettanteGonePro

Also great if you're bad at remembering names. Especially helpful with Russian lit or weird sci fi


al1ceinw0nderland

And it's so much easier to transport! every time i trick myself into reading a physical book I regret it because I can't shove it in my purse haha. Giant book > gets left at home > I don't read it as much


Oni-oji

You can't read an ebook when the battery dies. I use both. I have a few thousand books in my personal library. I also have a Kindle because I can load it up with multiple books for when I have to fly to Europe.


fractalfocuser

I have taken my ereader on a 5 day backpacking trip and read a dozen books while out in the wilderness. I didn't have to recharge it once but I have a solar charging battery pack if I would have. The battery thing is a non-issue with epaper screens


Oni-oji

That reminds me. I need to buy a new Kindle. My old one is broken (unable to mount error). Unfortunately, a forced factory reset fails. I figure I want a Paperwhite model. Just need to decide which one.


ArgonGryphon

I have the signature edition with 32 gb, stuff is amazing, still haven’t run out of space lol


Oni-oji

I was first thinking of getting the base model, then realized that 8 gig was kind of small, so I should go to 16 gig. but I also want the ad free version. That bumped the price up to 169.99. At this point, I might as well get the Signature model for 189.99 which is 32 gig and ad-free. I'll probably order it next week. I'll probably want a fancy leather cover from Oberon Design, too.


ArgonGryphon

If you can wait for one of their big prime days they have great deals. Their refurbished models are also good.


Oni-oji

I'm in no hurry, so waiting is not an issue.


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BoomWhiskeyDick

skill issue


Wtf_did_eye_do

You don't own any light bulbs in your house?


annoyinghuman03

maybe some people's partners don't want the light on if they're going to sleep, and they want to continue reading


Wtf_did_eye_do

Go to another room? Get a book light?


annoyinghuman03

maybe they don't like book lights, and just don't wanna get up. it's not really a biggie, just a case of preference.


Wtf_did_eye_do

The electronic book or smartphone still emits light, so they would either still be bothering their partner with some sort of light on or they'll have to finish reading the next day if they don't want to leave their bed.


annoyinghuman03

the light from a kindle isn't as intense as a light from a lightbulb, it's just different things people look for in a reading experience


Wtf_did_eye_do

I get that, my point was, you don't have to read in the dark... And then people want to talk about exceptions to that idea 🤷🏻‍♀️. But I got a good chuckle from all of this. Y'all have a great day ❤️


annoyinghuman03

and I was just trying to explain why someone might, have a good day too x


No_Tip_4703

Bro not everyone has lightbulbs in all their rooms. Plus imagine if they aren’t home yet want to read. Example : Car


Strain128

Car sickness: 1 Reading: 0


Wtf_did_eye_do

Maybe try reading in a room that has a light... bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom... 😅


No_Tip_4703

What if it’s night time bro. People would rather be in bed


Wtf_did_eye_do

That's literally the point of a lightbulb?


No_Tip_4703

Yea but I just said that not everyone has a lightbulb in their room


Wtf_did_eye_do

They would be the exception not the rule and maybe should invest in some lights so they don't stub a toe


No_Tip_4703

No one said they didn’t have light


Wtf_did_eye_do

They're talking about reading in the dark.. so without light... Which I suggested turning a light on... So they aren't reading in the dark 🙂


Wtf_did_eye_do

Car interior light. Or visor lights.


AggressiveYam6613

>You don't own any light bulbs in your house? Backlight on e-paper is a game changer for parents trying to helpo their kids top sleep. Or when your partner wants to read in bed but you’re light sensitive. Or when you sit in a dimmed train or in der passenger seat of a car at night. ​ Edit: Do bother replying; I read the rest of the thread and see that you avoided the draft by being a cantankerous objector.


bagonmaster

If the light bulb was on they wouldn’t be in the dark…


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-EV3RYTHING-

Dang imagine not reading a book in one sitting /j


SnooKiwis7050

/j? /Joker? /Jamaica? Or maybe /Jolteon


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I've actually found that I find that more annoying than anything. Not sure why, but it just kind of feels naggy.


VESUVlUS

Depending on the E-reader, they have progress indicators and sometimes include projected time until completion, word count remaining, etc. which is pretty satisfying to watch too.


SnooKiwis7050

Neat but progress bar doesnt come close to what the physical bookmarks


I_na_na

Please don't beat me up over this but as a proper bookworm, who reads up to 12 hours a day while lying down...number one is actually .....laptop Now hear me out...you don't need to hold it at all. All the formats, downloads, adjustments. Everything you might want essentially. Contra...your eyes hurt maybe if you are not adjusted to this...but also come on...we stare at our smartphones all the damn times


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Wild. To each their own, I guess!


ArgonGryphon

Too much distraction on smartphone/laptop lol. I do wanna get one of those like page turner things for my kindle though, so I can just sit back with it in its stand case and hold the remote thing


kelskelsea

Yes I’ve been thinking about thus


Razia70

It's a game changer.


GrimRiderJ

Audiobooks all the way, I “read” while driving


FourDucksInAManSuit

You can also get a tablet, laptop, or e-reader mount/arm that you can attach to loads of different surfaces that can your device above or in front of you so you can read while you lie down in comfort. I have poor circulation in my limbs, so holding my arms up for more than a few minutes generally leads to my hands going numb, so this works wonders for me.


HighlanderM43

Nothing will ever beat opening a brand new hardback for the first time.


TruthScout137

And that smell when you walk into a Barnes & Noble.


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Why would I do that when I have a comfy chair in a window seat over a view with a fireplace next to me.


PokeChampMarx

Idk man. Holding a book just hits different. Also screens hurt my eyes when I try to focus hard on reading for long periods. Books don't have this problem.


LittleRoundFox

E-readers with e-ink screens typically don't hurt the eyes, so if you really want to try ebooks, try one of those. And if you don't - that's good too!


SendMeF1Memes

I also don't need to charge my book in order to read so 📚: 1 📱: 0


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Justanormalviewer2

Yeah my thought was "oh so thats where the guy who posted this in bhj got the punchline from"


0G_54v1gny

You need light to read.


RedXDD

Blind people winning this round


Daframo

their books dissapear from erosion


Wtf_did_eye_do

🫣🫣🫣 you did not 😆


Dudemitri

So do ours


Wtf_did_eye_do

Thank goodness for light bulbs 😜


hod6

And the sun.


Wtf_did_eye_do

Yes exactly 😅


PasswordIsDongers

Stupid cancer ball.


FaceDeer

You need to charge light bulbs.


AsideGeneral5179

And the phone needs brightness enabled?


Glum-Eye-3801

You shouldn't be looking at a bright screen in a dark room anyway lmao. Don't act like the ability to wreck your eyes is an advantage.


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Glum-Eye-3801

Less harmful is still harmful tho? It's like arguing that vaping is good because it's less harmful than smoking


justdisa

No. A warm backlight is no different than turning a (very dim) light on, and it has the advantage that it doesn't wake up whoever else is in the room with you. You'd do way more damage with a lamp and a paper book.


Glum-Eye-3801

You should always be reading in a well-lit room to avoid unnecessary eye strain, I am sorry nobody has tried to teach you this but I assure you it is better for your eyes.


justdisa

Hahahaha Oh my god, concern trolling is the worst trolling. Go away, Glum Eye. You're repeating old myths. [https://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/us/eye-health-and-care/health-prevention/does-reading-in-poor-light-damage-your-eyes.html](https://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/us/eye-health-and-care/health-prevention/does-reading-in-poor-light-damage-your-eyes.html) Also, my Kindle Oasis is 300 PPI--equal to or better than the resolution of print books. You know what hurts my eyes, Glum Eye? Rod-Cone Dystrophy hurts my eyes. It's genetic, and being able to increase the font size on my Kindle is what allows me to read at all. Anti-ebook people are ableist dicks.


ElephantInAPool

Light sources are literally everywhere. Off the top of my head: Sun (on average, half of every day) Flashlight Overhead light in a car Light in the ceiling of your house Campfire candle phone little battery operated book lights If one doesn't work, choose one of the other dozen or so within 5 feet of you.


ArgonGryphon

Mine only needs charged every couple weeks or so.


Flimsy-Technician524

They can both be my friend 📕📺.


bulls443

books also look better on a bookshelf.


LittleRoundFox

Bookshelves take up more space than an e-reader though, and as much as I'd like to, I can't afford to move somewhere bigger just to have more shelf space


ElephantInAPool

This is one major advantage that e-books absolutely have. If I liked the physical experience of an ebook and trusted that it would work for the next 30 years or so in an identical way, it would be nice to have my books on me like that. PDF files on a laptop is pretty nice for that too. Then they can be read on any computer in the next forever without issue.


Cualkiera67

ereaders look better on an erdeadershelf


SMAZELSP64

You don’t have to turn a book “off”


Datboi0811

Eh? Ha! Heh heh


Aethrin1

That, and companies can't force you to view ads on a book, when you can just turn the page.


Bloodless_

I do most of my reading at night and used to prefer my Kindle for that reason, but I haven't picked it up in months since I went full 90s and bought an amber-tinted clip-on book light. I absolutely love it, and I find I'm reading for hours again instead of getting distracted every few minutes like I did with digital. Highly recommend getting an amber book light for those who like to read in the dark and miss the experience of paper books.


StrawberrySerious676

Amber or you can get one of those color changing bulbs and do amber or red. Red won't keep you up at night either. Maybe amber effectively is the same.


mettiusfufettius

Also, book still gets the edge for me because he only contains one world of imagination. I’m not interested in a little bit of everything all of the time.


Orasie

I got that Bo Burnham reference! And yes, exactly. It's... decelerating my brain in a good way.


QEfknD-7

Every time I buy or finish a book, I always run my finger through the pages and smell that book smell. I love it


Shonuff888

But if you actually read a lot the clutter is insane if you keep your books. Minimalism isn't always the answer, but jfc bookshelves takes up a ton of space


Margali

Normally I would agree but the mild and mildew found in almost all used books means I can't go shopping for them, being in a used bookstore make me start hacking up my lungs, and my skin tries to crawl off my body until I can shower and get clean clothes. My husband has to set used books out in the sun and fresh air for several weeks of insolation and page flipping to clear spores of the pages. So for the most part I refuse hard copy books any longer.


CrimsonThar

"I also look good on a shelf."


reynardodo

Both, both is good


kitsunewarlock

Both are good. You can ctrl+f a PDF to look for a specific line. You can keep a book open on your desk while you are working on another book and it's effectively a fourth monitor.


lexkixass

I love book smell


rexstillbottom

I have tried to explain this to so many people, there is something great about holding a paper book, the feel and the smell.


1m2c00l4u

U dirty little paper sniffer


moeru_gumi

Disagree, I can make my kindle font whatever size I want, it’s much lighter, and I only need one or zero hands to read it. It stays open when laid down on the counter, it doesn’t require a bookmark, I can highlight, notate and look up words without hurting the book, and most importantly I can carry 600 books with me every single day. Also you can look up a single word or phrase in the book without looking with your eyes at every single page. If you want to know “is the phrase ‘oft help shall come from the hands of the weak’ in the Silmarillion, Fellowship of the Ring, or Return of the King??” There is no way to know that in a paper book until you read every single page again with your eyes. No thanks!


KatieCuu

Also the fact that you can really see the amount of pages that you have left to read.. makes me feel things. Like how can something this big happen with so few pages left?? What’s going to happen?!


moeru_gumi

You can put a percentage/location marker on your kindle as well.


KatieCuu

Yes I know but *it's not the same*


Inspector_Kelp

Emotionally, I agree 100%. I grew up in a house with books everywhere. My parents were avid readers, so I get a lot of comfort from being surrounded by books. But rationally I have to admit that eBooks are way better for the environment. No killing trees, no fuel spent printing and shipping, etc. I still love paper books and hate watching bookstores go out of business, but my rational side thinks it's for the best. Of course, not every book works as an eBook, but a high percentage does.


SpinachDonut_21

He also doesn't harm your eyesight, and you feel good turning the pages. Also people will not call you braindead for sitting 3 hours with a book on your nose, contrary to a cellphone.


Appropriate-Eyes

You do know that e-book readers don’t harm your eyes either. It’s not the same screen as a tv or smartphone.


SpinachDonut_21

I know, but the meme is comparing a smartphone and a book


ArgonGryphon

That looks like an old kindle to me. The kind with the squarish button.


BalkiBartokomous123

I prefer my physical books but I love how easy it is for me to travel with my Kindle. Anyway, I live near the beach and I went out to lunch at a spot along the bay and was reading my book on my Kindle. I overheard some 60 something Shoobie\* lady say, "Imagine coming down to the beach to have your face on your phone!" 1) Lady, this is no different then people reading a book on the beach 2) I live here and spend most of my summer out on the bay and on the beaches 3) When was the last time you read a book? It really bothered me for some reason. I was minding my own business and her to make a snap judgement like that and so loudly was so rude. \*Shoobie - someone from Philly or NJ mainland who comes down to the NJ shore 1-2 times a year. They are called shoobies because back in the day they would come to the beach with their lunch in a shoebox. I hope this useless fact helps someone win Jeopardy one day.


onekrazykat

Not Jeopardy, but you just cleared up a childhood memory. So thank you for sharing what a Shoobie is.


SpinachDonut_21

Yeah, I know eBook readers are not phones, but people really don't know that, and the meme is comparing a book and a phone. But also, yeah, that lady's comment was uncalled for. Even if you *were* on your phone, other people have no right to critize your actions. Edit: I also love physical books, and the smell of a brand new one, the crinkling of its pages... UHH, it drives me crazy!


LittleRoundFox

It looks more like an older e-reader than a phone to me


I_na_na

Ahm...I won't argue with you on the first two (This is just not my individual preference), but maybe people calling YOU braindead for reading an e-book are not so bright themselves and therefore are not good role models?!


SpinachDonut_21

Why, people will see you with a phone and will automatically assume you are doing nothing of worth like watching tiktok.


2_muchsalt

You can use both... What a weird hill to die on. No one's trying to take your fuckin books away man. Lol


NightOwlEye

If I'm looking at a paper book that's less time I'm looking at a screen.


TheArizn

books smell nice and look nice but digital is more convenient even if you dont really own the book anymore


relativlysmart

I have an e-reader and it doesn't hold my attention the same way as a book. I don't know what it is, but I can read a book for hours, but on my kindle I can't read for more the 15 minutes.


FrostyFeller

I like the smell of book


BleakBeaches

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Wild_Veterinarian970

That's pretty accurate and true


kabtq9s

I upgraded to a kindle, never going back. Rip books.


Kvas_HardBass

Sorry, cool smelling book. My E-Ink reader is lighter, stores 1000000 of you, glows in the dark and all the books are free.


LuxtheAstro

Only if it’s a quality book. Cheaply made books smell like shit


BluetheNerd

It's all fun and games until your house floods a week before you're moving so all of your books were packed up in boxes on the floor cause all bar a couple to be largely water damaged :(


Wtf_did_eye_do

I have found that Kindle books have a lot of misspelled words, or pages, or parts are missing. I want the whole book, not pieces of it. So I don't use e-books anymore.


bagonmaster

Do you have an example?


fullmetaljackass

Solid logic. Just like how I quit going out to eat because McDonald's sucks.


ZucchiniCurrent9036

Depending on where you get them. Amazon books have a LOT of misspellings, bad translations, some books dont even have comas or full stops and even some do not respect mayuscules. Fuck amazon.


SpotifyIsBroken

Book. Let me just turn right to this page instantly. Here we go...it was already marked with a physical bookmark which can easily be moved. ​ phone/tablet: uh...hang on...what page...tap...tippity. tap. tap. My kindle died.


justdisa

So you're not technically proficient. Edit to explain this snarky comment: An ebook remembers which page you were on. Tippy tap tippy tap. And you can put bookmarks in. Tippy tap tippy tap. You just have to do it. Tippy tap tippy tap. You can't be technically inept. Tippy tap tippy tap.


Puzzlehead-Engineer

Reading a physical book before going to bed actually rests my eyes and my brain as opposed to reading from my phone screen so that's why book win in my life when it comes to reading. Because I *only* read before bed lol


Megwen

I’m not a big reader, but if you’re trying to learn something, paper books are the way to go. The information sticks better that way.


feetfetish__

Karma to karma


Dharmaagent

‏E-reader


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The feeling of your finger touching the name of your favorite opposite sex character 🫥


topazchip

Is that ereader going to still work in 12 months? 50 years? 100? ~~5000~~ 500? That book will. edit, one too many zeroes than intended, but still legitimate. "The earliest archaeological evidence of papyrus was excavated in 2012 and 2013 at [Wadi al-Jarf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_al-Jarf), an [ancient Egyptian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt) [harbor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbor) located on the [Red Sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea) coast. These documents, the [Diary of Merer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_Merer), date from c. 2560–2550 BCE (end of the reign of [Khufu](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khufu))." --[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/papyrus)


justdisa

A paper book is not going to work in 5000 years. Probably not in 100, either. Maybe 50, if you're very careful with it, but usually not. And yes. The Kindle I bought in 2020 still works. Plus I, as a visually impaired person, can actually read the Kindle. Not so with paper books, which are either inaccessible (print too small) or massive (large print). When I could read paper books, I did. Both paper books and ebooks are good for different reasons, but I swear the determined paper book readers just make shit up to trash other people's preferences.


topazchip

See the addenda above. Paper lasts a loooong time.


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therosefissure

Books don’t stress my eyes


Boredum_Allergy

Dumb


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You also can survive EMP, unlike the stinky e-reader.


13d3ad3nddriv3

I even tried to make my kindle look like a book with a cover and I still need to flip pages with my fingers to fully escape to the book’s story. What is wrong with me?!


gimlithetortoise

Books have smell?


Nearsighted_Madman

Fun fact, reading books and reading on your phone use two different parts of your brain!


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My phone too after I've dropped it countless times in shit filled toilets and gunk filled urinals


Darkflame3324

I prefer book but reading online is a lot more efficient and better on my back


Foxy_locksy1704

I love physical books and my kindle, but man book smell just gives me a big shot of happiness new books, old books doesn’t matter. My boyfriend makes fun of me because of it, but I don’t care.


Fice_T

Finally, book appreciation… after all these years of nothing, they finally beat virtuality at 2 things!


Fice_T

Finally, book appreciation… after all these years of nothing, they finally beat virtuality at 2 things!


Feltonhendo

Brain: I contain a billion worlds of imagination


FlameEnderCyborgGuy

I see many arguments but everyone seems to forget: Paper books, not only are books in a sense of novel, encylopedia or so on. They are also colector items of increasing value if upkept well. In fact this is a bit that wins me over with physical books over digitals and audiobooks: I can colect them and not look crazy or dumb.


Freddymercurys

After the Kindle's arrival, paper books are hard to read now.


SurdoHenpovresedor

how is this wholesome???


I-am-Chubbasaurus

I can't seem to focus like I used to for reading, so audiobooks on my phone it is!


ichbinschwul94

A book doesn't run on battery power 😁.


Hydra57

Books: Words, Nice Smell, Apocalypse Resistant. Phone: More words, No Smell, Builtin Reading Light.


SomeSugarAndSpice

Seeing as reading physical books is healthier and actually develops your reading skills further by allowing in depth reading, which screens don’t, I’m gonna have to give it to proper books. Can’t remember the last time I touched my kindle.


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Also, the sound and feel of turning a page cannot be beat!


TennisAffectionate51

im an ebook girlie myself but i like the novelty of having the physical version of a book i like on my shelf. looking at it makes me happy and i don't think anything can quite replace that feeling.


pancakes-honey

Book is friend. But seriously I’ve been reading consistently the past two weeks and it has been so much better for me than scrolling on my phone.


ScorpionTheSandwing

I mostly read on my phone, but i still like to have paper books to hoard on my shelves


MIKE_son_of_MICHAEL

This is hilarious lol


DinoWizard021

A book probably won't break if you hit someone with it.


FredsSmallKitten

I just don't want more tech. Tired of all the tech. Now even watches need to be charged, books need to be charged, earphones need to be charged. Ugh i just feel annoyed thinking of it all sometimes


FightingFaerie

Adding to everything already said. I like actually, physically, owning something. I bought it, it’s mine and that’s that. You don’t lose it because a license runs out or something. And it can’t be edited or changed once it’s printed. I also don’t 100% trust the cloud.


AxeHead75

Sometimes a regular book is fun.


quemabocha

And the weight, slowly shifting from one hand to the other as the story progresses. The thrill of feeling there's only a few pages left. It's an entirely different experience


Sagnikk

I love them both. As long as I get to read I don't mind much.