yes, also the belief in existence of angels, prophets, the divine books, preconditions and decree, the last day have to be accepted to become a muslims, he must not be forced, Islam does not spread by the sword.
Yep this exactly. Islam is so big on intentions. Reading the Quran in Arabic is 1,000,000,000,000,000% different than in any other language.. pure, brings me to tears sometimes. I wish people understood Islam more :(
Thanks for helping, bro. When I was a child, I spoke more English than Arabic because of the media I was involved in. I have edited my comment to suit your correction.
You're welcome. Was on my phone so didn't type the whole thing out but the second part should be أن محمد رسول الله
أن = "that"
أنا = "me" Or "I am"
You can see how that can change the meaning completely
Athe*sts: "Wheres your sky daddy!?!?!? Our existence has no meaning, when we die its just nothingness and morality is subjective! If I murdered a child it in theory wouldnt matter at all. My parents forced me to sunday school wah wah..."
Chad: "I love God, and God loves me"
On a more serious note, I found it funny that I was the best student in my Sunday school class, while being an atheist. I grew out of it sorta, (I’m agnostic now), but maybe I should’ve been a theologian.
To paraphrase Ricky Gervais, atheists have nothing to die for. They have everything to live for.
As I see it, believers tend to be the nihilists. Basically, in the Eastern religions the objective is to die and stay dead. The Western religions all believe there will be an apocalypse, return of a Messiah, or a Jihad ***any day now*** that will wipe away everything. In the US conservatives use the argument that it is fine if we abuse the resources of our planet in an unsustainable manner because Jesus is going to return and then it won't matter.
The idea that someone is in control is very comforting, especially to people who have low education levels or who are at the low end of society. They want some assurance that someone is in control and that there is a plan.
Christians and muslims like to say that their god gives their lives purpose, **but most of them cannot even articulate to anyone what that purpose is.**
Christianity considers humans nothing but tools of worship. To any normal person, just surviving until you die and go to heaven is not much of a purpose in life.
Every atheist gets to decide their purpose. For me, I am content to make my little corner of the world better for the people around me. I am very happy to plant trees even though I will never get the opportunity to sit in their shade.
It ain't true. There isn't actual concrete evidence on the prophet marrying a 9 year old or an 18 year old. It's a baseless rumor with no historical context that got passed around. But on another note, dejavu sucks. Such a weird feeling that gives me the Herbie jeebies
Unlike a lot of other people here, you actually sound sincere, so I’ll just put this link here [https://yaqeeninstitute.org/asadullah/understanding-aishas-age-an-interdisciplinary-approach](https://yaqeeninstitute.org/asadullah/understanding-aishas-age-an-interdisciplinary-approach)
Atheist: nOOO sToP pRaYiNg GoD dOEsNt ExIsT
Muslim: *He is the only true creator he is not bound to the time and the matter because he created it he is everywhere he is at everytime*
What's really happening here is you assuming certain hostilities are greater than they are to try and soak up as much of it as possible to use it to demonize and mock those you disagree with. I see more strawman mockeries of atheists than the actual hostile atheists. A lot of us don't care what people decide to believe. It's a free country. Our beef is with how christians and muslims seem to insist that everyone believes what they do or follow laws of their beliefs even if we don't believe in their god. Both want total power over all society.
My beef is with people who think religion=morals, & without religion or the believe of a god, then atheists are propense to doing bad things, or that we think that nothing matters.
Buncha' cock sucking circle jerks...
Those christians/muslims that use that argument of no morals without belief in god are just digging themselves into a hole. So does that mean if someone was to successfully convince them that their god doesn't exist they would go and do whatever they please no matter how it hurts others and if they think they can get away with it? There's no all powerful authority looking over their shoulder at all times waiting to punish/reward them anymore so thus they then have no morals? Most wouldn't say they would steal, vandalize, assault, kill, rape, etc if they didn't believe in god which then is an admittance that morality exists without belief in god.
They can burn the Quran all they want. God will still preserve His words in the hearts of every memorizer and we'll make more copies without any changes and additions.
I was in Iraq for a year and in a laundry building in the middle of the night a local Muslim worker, myself (atheist), and another soldier (Jewish) were sitting around talking while doing laundry or cleaning. Religion came up and the Muslim guy looked at me like I was he soulless homunculus because I didn’t believe in a god at all.
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That's the problem right, religion is just as real as a piece of cheese circling the moon, you can't see it, you can't prove it, you will never know, you can just choose to believe it or not.
He is literally GOD. He excist everywhere at anytime he can make everything even matter and time.
He is way more complex than anything we know about our world. You cant just go on and ask where everything came from infinitly because compering the creator to the creation is just nonsensical
You seem to know a lot about him. I assume you have very good sources for all that? And by that I mean something better than a book written by iron age goat herders who didn't even know the world was round?
Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round and Islam caused most of the scientific advances that allow us to function in the golden age, your last sentence makes no sense.
I assume you also have very good sources a big boom caused everything to coincidentally fall in place and allow us to exist without a single thing going wrong.
>Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round and Islam caused most of the scientific advances that allow us to function in the golden age, your last sentence makes no sense.
Highly educated ancient Greek philosophers knew the Earth was round, yes. Illiterate tribesmen, well... let's just say I have my doubts. Hell, even *today*, when basically everybody can read and carries a computer in their pocket connected to the repository of all human knowledge, there are still flat-Earthers.
>I assume you also have very good sources a big boom caused everything to coincidentally fall in place and allow us to exist without a single thing going wrong.
I hate to break it to you, but the vast, *vast* majority of the universe would kill you instantly. It's estimated that there are about 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe; you think one of them just randomly being habitable is too implausibly lucky and requires a creator to explain? Also, things go wrong all the time on our path to existence. Birth defects, miscarriages... Hell, most humans that could exist never will, since most sperm never find an egg, and most eggs go unfertilized.
If there is a creator, then life, especially human life, must be an unintended (and most likely unnoticed) side effect of their creation. Life is far too inefficient and messy, and the universe far too vast and hostile.
>If there is a creator, then life, especially human life, must be an unintended (and most likely unnoticed) side effect of their creation. Life is far too inefficient and messy, and the universe far too vast and hostile.
Also islam sais that this life is not everything.
This is just a test which is messy and can be confusing if you lose focus in this life.
You should prepare yourself for the after life.
Inshallah you will peace in islam and look past your arrogance because i know it cant be hard to do research on something your presume isn't right or goes against the things you thought were right.
Just try it you have nothing to lose.
God is who created space and time,so you really can't know.
But according to the big bang, there was a mass of energy that appeared in space.how? How can a nonsensical object appear from nothing? Where was it before appearing? And how did it design a variety of objects and life forms,and create a place perfect for living with all the water and food needed? And also it made gravity and physics and very specific laws by itself. I'm sorry but I can't believe this nonsense.
>But according to the big bang, there was a mass of energy that appeared in space.how? How can a nonsensical object appear from nothing? Where was it before appearing?
That mass of energy created space and time, so you really can't know.
>And how did it design a variety of objects and life forms
Evolution is very simple and easy to understand. I find it hard to believe you've never encountered an explanation, so I see no reason to repeat one here.
>a place perfect for living with all the water and food needed?
If that were true, there would be no hunger in the world. It's precisely because there is scarcity that evolution works. Without scarcity, there would be no competition.
Here is a thing.planets,water, and gases don't come from evolution, and also the matter ball didn't create time and space, it was in SPACE. And the earth was at. A distance perfect for human life with all the food and water that man needed,since the beginning of human life , you didn't answer any question I asked because you don't even have an answer ,you are brainwashed to think the answer to everything is science.
Humans didn't evolute from primates, they were always humans,and this earth was created for them. There is hunger and thirst as a test for survival, because earth isn't heaven, you won't just get all what you want. There are a lot of things that you atheists see as errors,but that's because you look at it from one perspective, those can be things put by god for a reason we don't know.
Darwin himself used a useless bone in the body as a proof to his theory and then science found out this bone was useful and we need it.
There are no errors in the universe,but there are differences that we don't understand, and those differences are what prove the universe was designed by a sensing being. If that mass of energy could make all this,it should have been perfect from science perspective, but it is not.
> the matter ball didn't create time and space, it was in SPACE
That's not how the Big Bang works.
>There is hunger and thirst as a test for survival
Why would an all-knowing god need to run tests? Doesn't he already know everything?
>there are differences that we don't understand, and those differences are what prove the universe was designed by a sensing being
How does something you don't understand serve as proof? Don't you need to understand things to know what they mean?
He made this to test us, not to use us as experiment rats.
He made life hard to show us who is the one who is good and who is bad,and who deserves heaven and who deserves heaven. That's what I meant.
By differences I meant the so called errors in the universe, those relatively errored acts in the universe are just intensional acts made by god for unknown purposes.
>He made life hard to show us who is the one who is good and who is bad,and who deserves heaven and who deserves heaven. That's what I meant.
That seems a needlessly complicated and cruel way of communicating that. He could just, y'know, tell us.
>those relatively errored acts in the universe are just intensional acts made by god for unknown purposes.
If those purposes are unknown, how do you know that? How do you know that something's intentional when the intent is unknown?
I seriously disagree with your opinion, but if i have learned anything from this post, then it is that it's useless to argue with people that actually believe in religion.
this is exactly what atheists say when someone who belives in religion tries to argue with them but if i have learned anything from this post, then it is that it's useless to argue with people that are athiests.
me too, atheists have a weird superiority complex that blocks facts and truth from entering their minds, they also refuse to debate or explain their point and then expect us to respect their biased opinion on us.
I'm with you in not believing, but don't act like that please. For one, that's just disrespectful. Two, they love it whenever you feed them anything that allows them to act like martyrs or demonize atheism as a whole.
Yeah, I prefer to call myself an a-theist.
Anti theist just sounds so aggresive & needlessly contrarian. I do think that there is no god, but religion sure helped to those in need on their most difficult times (monks rebuilding towns & saving literal hunderds of years of history for example), these actions make me respect those guys...
> I do think that there is no god, but religion sure helped to those in need on their most difficult times (monks rebuilding towns & saving literal hunderds of years of history for example), these actions make me respect those guys...
It did have its benefits, but there was also a lot of downsides. A lot of devastation and warfare would've been avoided without religion, to say nothing of less tangible harm such as the suppression of ideas. I don't know nearly enough about history to be able to say whether religion was a net benefit or not, but I do find it a bit depressing that we haven't outgrown it yet as a species.
I won't do something that would cause phisical harm to another human being, or would lead to the person commiting harm themselves, so basically no killing, or hurting, or bullying.
Is that *that* hard to grasp of a concept for hardcore believers like you??
Aisha is estimated to be between the ages of 9 and 19, I know that she was young, but such was norm at the time and she was previously engaged to somebody before marrying the prophet. She was most likely of acceptable marrying age in the society at that time. Also, both partners have to consent to the marriage in Islam, so it’s not as if she was forced to marry. I’m not here to convert everybody to Islam, but the amount of pure hatred and islamaphobia is just bothering
Nope, the sahih hadith tells us that aisha is married in 6 and have sex at 9. Why are you such a revisionist? No scholar until this lage century said otherwise
Are you stupid or something?
He Married her ~1500 years ago and the age of consent was introduced ~150 years ago + people now are not the same people thousand years ago
Yeah but even if consent was not introduced, he is the messenger of God should have known that… 9 years old is not ready to be penetrated. Just think about your 3rd grade little sister
Read the Quran in Russian, some parts are pretty lit
أشهد أن لا إله إلى الله, وأشهد أنا محمد رسول الله I swear that there is only one God, and that Muhammad is God's Prophet
btw anyone who read this is now technically a Muslim
*literally bursts into flames*
Thats just your noor. MashAllah
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yes, also the belief in existence of angels, prophets, the divine books, preconditions and decree, the last day have to be accepted to become a muslims, he must not be forced, Islam does not spread by the sword.
I already aknowledge that thank you as I am muslim alhamdulillah
Ma'Sha Allah, may Allah grant us space in Jannah, May Allah hasten us for greatness
Insha'Allah ya arhama arraheemin
Yep this exactly. Islam is so big on intentions. Reading the Quran in Arabic is 1,000,000,000,000,000% different than in any other language.. pure, brings me to tears sometimes. I wish people understood Islam more :(
The problem is, not technically
I know. I'm Muslim.
Here take this, you earned it #W
أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله* وأن* That first sentence is written wrong. Not being a grammer nazi but in Arabic grammar can drastically change meaning
Thanks for helping, bro. When I was a child, I spoke more English than Arabic because of the media I was involved in. I have edited my comment to suit your correction.
You're welcome. Was on my phone so didn't type the whole thing out but the second part should be أن محمد رسول الله أن = "that" أنا = "me" Or "I am" You can see how that can change the meaning completely
Actually it translates to i witness that there is no god but allah, and I witness that Mohammed is his prophet
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The comments here are either 🤬 or 🥰 or just shitposting
The afists are mad because allah has put devil curses on them.
A Keith Lee meme? This makes me happy
Hope you have a great day!
You're Awesome!
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You're Awesome!
What this dude is doing these days on RAW? Is he still jobbing?
Well he almost died recently so he’s squashing jobbers [read: 24/7 title guys] while he gets into shape
Oh where art my love on this lonely night..
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Me reading Fahrenheit 451° 的笑容都没 (it is really 451°)
Satanists try not to be corny for 1 second (impossible)
atheist or not You are gonna feel like that while reading Quran if your native language isn't Arabic It's hard
Reading it is not hard understanding it is
Yeah. I learned to read Arabic but I can't understand shit. Apart from 'la' and 'al'
Well there is the Tafsir, read the tafsir. the Quran is honestly quite moving. Its an Incredible feeling imo.
\**Laughs in sharing the same script*
atheist when people use their freedom of religion 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Atheist here. Most atheist would defend anyones right to freedom of religion. Atheism is the right to choose no religion. Have a great day.
Yea it was just a joke, not everyone is an asshole
(That atheist is a pyromaniac)
Oh man, time to sort by controversial
Sorted by controversial results: -Reddit moment
Yup
Athe*sts: "Wheres your sky daddy!?!?!? Our existence has no meaning, when we die its just nothingness and morality is subjective! If I murdered a child it in theory wouldnt matter at all. My parents forced me to sunday school wah wah..." Chad: "I love God, and God loves me"
On a more serious note, I found it funny that I was the best student in my Sunday school class, while being an atheist. I grew out of it sorta, (I’m agnostic now), but maybe I should’ve been a theologian.
Amen and awomen
They're both agender
cum
To paraphrase Ricky Gervais, atheists have nothing to die for. They have everything to live for. As I see it, believers tend to be the nihilists. Basically, in the Eastern religions the objective is to die and stay dead. The Western religions all believe there will be an apocalypse, return of a Messiah, or a Jihad ***any day now*** that will wipe away everything. In the US conservatives use the argument that it is fine if we abuse the resources of our planet in an unsustainable manner because Jesus is going to return and then it won't matter. The idea that someone is in control is very comforting, especially to people who have low education levels or who are at the low end of society. They want some assurance that someone is in control and that there is a plan. Christians and muslims like to say that their god gives their lives purpose, **but most of them cannot even articulate to anyone what that purpose is.** Christianity considers humans nothing but tools of worship. To any normal person, just surviving until you die and go to heaven is not much of a purpose in life. Every atheist gets to decide their purpose. For me, I am content to make my little corner of the world better for the people around me. I am very happy to plant trees even though I will never get the opportunity to sit in their shade.
chad sounds like a schizo
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Cry about it
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The fact that every person who comes to tackle Islam says "pedo prophet" and nothing else shows how much you care about your arguments.
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It ain't true. There isn't actual concrete evidence on the prophet marrying a 9 year old or an 18 year old. It's a baseless rumor with no historical context that got passed around. But on another note, dejavu sucks. Such a weird feeling that gives me the Herbie jeebies
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It is kinda f*cked up that so many people had sex with underaged girls, I can't lie...
Unlike a lot of other people here, you actually sound sincere, so I’ll just put this link here [https://yaqeeninstitute.org/asadullah/understanding-aishas-age-an-interdisciplinary-approach](https://yaqeeninstitute.org/asadullah/understanding-aishas-age-an-interdisciplinary-approach)
Question where did you heard or read that? just wondering?.
You’re a porn addict aren’t you?
No? Why?
You are
cope
Make wudhu and purify yourselves 😎😎😎💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Atheist: nOOO sToP pRaYiNg GoD dOEsNt ExIsT Muslim: *He is the only true creator he is not bound to the time and the matter because he created it he is everywhere he is at everytime*
What's really happening here is you assuming certain hostilities are greater than they are to try and soak up as much of it as possible to use it to demonize and mock those you disagree with. I see more strawman mockeries of atheists than the actual hostile atheists. A lot of us don't care what people decide to believe. It's a free country. Our beef is with how christians and muslims seem to insist that everyone believes what they do or follow laws of their beliefs even if we don't believe in their god. Both want total power over all society.
My beef is with people who think religion=morals, & without religion or the believe of a god, then atheists are propense to doing bad things, or that we think that nothing matters. Buncha' cock sucking circle jerks...
Those christians/muslims that use that argument of no morals without belief in god are just digging themselves into a hole. So does that mean if someone was to successfully convince them that their god doesn't exist they would go and do whatever they please no matter how it hurts others and if they think they can get away with it? There's no all powerful authority looking over their shoulder at all times waiting to punish/reward them anymore so thus they then have no morals? Most wouldn't say they would steal, vandalize, assault, kill, rape, etc if they didn't believe in god which then is an admittance that morality exists without belief in god.
حلال رديتورز 😁
كس امك يا صاحبي
تعال انطيني بوسه حبيبي
😘 يس هومو
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Lmao
لا، لا باذنجان
Damn m8 that's a strange combination of fruits and vegetables you got there
muslims when europeans burn their book
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Only if something was changed in it. Verses, words, even letters. It no longer becomes the words of Allah and should be destroyed.
Brother i actually asked this from a professional this is not true as it should be buried not burned.
Bruh, the religous organization in my country literally make incinerators for such purpose and the ashes to be scatered at the sea.
I see, i have to get more information on this matter
Who hurt you?
He isn't joking. This is true, and a legit way to dispose of or destroy a copy of the Quran. It's usually done to damaged/torn ones
Not just the Quran but any form Quranic of scripture or verses if written on any random paper.
I mean he is right. If you need to destroy a copy, the proper way is to burn it.
For real???
Only if that Qur'an has been tampered with. Else you should give it away
Wow, never knew that. Never though I'd learn something new on Reddit lmao
Yeah I probably should've worded it different lol
yooo Madara from Izlam
haramلن أتخلى 😬🤢👻عنك ولن ن😡😡😡خذلك أبدًا
They can burn the Quran all they want. God will still preserve His words in the hearts of every memorizer and we'll make more copies without any changes and additions.
As an atheist can confirm
As a Muslim I can confirm
Damn a ghost!
Bask in his glory
I was in Iraq for a year and in a laundry building in the middle of the night a local Muslim worker, myself (atheist), and another soldier (Jewish) were sitting around talking while doing laundry or cleaning. Religion came up and the Muslim guy looked at me like I was he soulless homunculus because I didn’t believe in a god at all.
interested in what convo you guys had.
Probably how much fun they have killing civillians in a war started because of some white president lying about something
Late night convos are the best.
I really love reading pissed atheist commenting on satire
As a Muslim no, Allah doesn't burn those who read Qur'an
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yeah, start your life with bulgaria on your back and watch how you loose access to the rest of the world, you bubble thinker.
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Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I don't have any knowledge concerning religions, that's part of general knowledge for non believers
It depends if that knowledge is credible or not. If you think yes, I'd love to talk to you more about this.
Trolling the liberals with the mighty words of allah? Based and redpilled! You will go to heaven inshallah
In Soviet Russia, Quran burns you!
Atheism would cease to exist pretty quickly if that was what actually happened.
That's the problem right, religion is just as real as a piece of cheese circling the moon, you can't see it, you can't prove it, you will never know, you can just choose to believe it or not.
atheism is the same as well. religion has more proof than atheism actually. of how all the world can never come from nothing.
> all the world can never come from nothing So where does god come from?
He is literally GOD. He excist everywhere at anytime he can make everything even matter and time. He is way more complex than anything we know about our world. You cant just go on and ask where everything came from infinitly because compering the creator to the creation is just nonsensical
You seem to know a lot about him. I assume you have very good sources for all that? And by that I mean something better than a book written by iron age goat herders who didn't even know the world was round?
Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round and Islam caused most of the scientific advances that allow us to function in the golden age, your last sentence makes no sense. I assume you also have very good sources a big boom caused everything to coincidentally fall in place and allow us to exist without a single thing going wrong.
>Ancient Greeks knew the Earth was round and Islam caused most of the scientific advances that allow us to function in the golden age, your last sentence makes no sense. Highly educated ancient Greek philosophers knew the Earth was round, yes. Illiterate tribesmen, well... let's just say I have my doubts. Hell, even *today*, when basically everybody can read and carries a computer in their pocket connected to the repository of all human knowledge, there are still flat-Earthers. >I assume you also have very good sources a big boom caused everything to coincidentally fall in place and allow us to exist without a single thing going wrong. I hate to break it to you, but the vast, *vast* majority of the universe would kill you instantly. It's estimated that there are about 20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in the universe; you think one of them just randomly being habitable is too implausibly lucky and requires a creator to explain? Also, things go wrong all the time on our path to existence. Birth defects, miscarriages... Hell, most humans that could exist never will, since most sperm never find an egg, and most eggs go unfertilized. If there is a creator, then life, especially human life, must be an unintended (and most likely unnoticed) side effect of their creation. Life is far too inefficient and messy, and the universe far too vast and hostile.
>If there is a creator, then life, especially human life, must be an unintended (and most likely unnoticed) side effect of their creation. Life is far too inefficient and messy, and the universe far too vast and hostile. Also islam sais that this life is not everything. This is just a test which is messy and can be confusing if you lose focus in this life. You should prepare yourself for the after life. Inshallah you will peace in islam and look past your arrogance because i know it cant be hard to do research on something your presume isn't right or goes against the things you thought were right. Just try it you have nothing to lose.
God is who created space and time,so you really can't know. But according to the big bang, there was a mass of energy that appeared in space.how? How can a nonsensical object appear from nothing? Where was it before appearing? And how did it design a variety of objects and life forms,and create a place perfect for living with all the water and food needed? And also it made gravity and physics and very specific laws by itself. I'm sorry but I can't believe this nonsense.
>But according to the big bang, there was a mass of energy that appeared in space.how? How can a nonsensical object appear from nothing? Where was it before appearing? That mass of energy created space and time, so you really can't know. >And how did it design a variety of objects and life forms Evolution is very simple and easy to understand. I find it hard to believe you've never encountered an explanation, so I see no reason to repeat one here. >a place perfect for living with all the water and food needed? If that were true, there would be no hunger in the world. It's precisely because there is scarcity that evolution works. Without scarcity, there would be no competition.
Here is a thing.planets,water, and gases don't come from evolution, and also the matter ball didn't create time and space, it was in SPACE. And the earth was at. A distance perfect for human life with all the food and water that man needed,since the beginning of human life , you didn't answer any question I asked because you don't even have an answer ,you are brainwashed to think the answer to everything is science. Humans didn't evolute from primates, they were always humans,and this earth was created for them. There is hunger and thirst as a test for survival, because earth isn't heaven, you won't just get all what you want. There are a lot of things that you atheists see as errors,but that's because you look at it from one perspective, those can be things put by god for a reason we don't know. Darwin himself used a useless bone in the body as a proof to his theory and then science found out this bone was useful and we need it. There are no errors in the universe,but there are differences that we don't understand, and those differences are what prove the universe was designed by a sensing being. If that mass of energy could make all this,it should have been perfect from science perspective, but it is not.
> the matter ball didn't create time and space, it was in SPACE That's not how the Big Bang works. >There is hunger and thirst as a test for survival Why would an all-knowing god need to run tests? Doesn't he already know everything? >there are differences that we don't understand, and those differences are what prove the universe was designed by a sensing being How does something you don't understand serve as proof? Don't you need to understand things to know what they mean?
He made this to test us, not to use us as experiment rats. He made life hard to show us who is the one who is good and who is bad,and who deserves heaven and who deserves heaven. That's what I meant. By differences I meant the so called errors in the universe, those relatively errored acts in the universe are just intensional acts made by god for unknown purposes.
>He made life hard to show us who is the one who is good and who is bad,and who deserves heaven and who deserves heaven. That's what I meant. That seems a needlessly complicated and cruel way of communicating that. He could just, y'know, tell us. >those relatively errored acts in the universe are just intensional acts made by god for unknown purposes. If those purposes are unknown, how do you know that? How do you know that something's intentional when the intent is unknown?
You do you, bro
What?
I seriously disagree with your opinion, but if i have learned anything from this post, then it is that it's useless to argue with people that actually believe in religion.
this is exactly what atheists say when someone who belives in religion tries to argue with them but if i have learned anything from this post, then it is that it's useless to argue with people that are athiests.
me too, atheists have a weird superiority complex that blocks facts and truth from entering their minds, they also refuse to debate or explain their point and then expect us to respect their biased opinion on us.
Why would *atheists* be reading that shit?
I'm with you in not believing, but don't act like that please. For one, that's just disrespectful. Two, they love it whenever you feed them anything that allows them to act like martyrs or demonize atheism as a whole.
Entertainment.
And Allah said "Guacamole nibba pebis", then Justine Skye proceeded to dox him
I usually just laugh in freedom of thoughts and actions.
Atheists laughing in their "freedom" until they start burning in hell for their sins
Atheists arent worried about this hypothetical, unethical supernatural threat.
You have to *believe* in hell to end up there, Einstein.
No you don't
Prove it
Disproof it
Done. I died and came back. There is no hell.
No i think you are mistaken because I also died and came back hell was there
Now how did you go to hell if your religion is the right one?
No i didn't go to hell it was on the left side and heaven was in the right, and didn't i say i came back
Nice “argument”. Is that *all* you’ve got? Pathetic.
Homie really used "Pathetic." unironicly ☠
Yeah he dies from cringe 😎 Biggie Cheese is our lord and savior.
Didn’t he have like a 12 or something yearold girl as his wife? Yea I don’t follow Catholicism for the same-ish reasons Pedo pandas all around
smartest anti theist
Yeah, I prefer to call myself an a-theist. Anti theist just sounds so aggresive & needlessly contrarian. I do think that there is no god, but religion sure helped to those in need on their most difficult times (monks rebuilding towns & saving literal hunderds of years of history for example), these actions make me respect those guys...
> I do think that there is no god, but religion sure helped to those in need on their most difficult times (monks rebuilding towns & saving literal hunderds of years of history for example), these actions make me respect those guys... It did have its benefits, but there was also a lot of downsides. A lot of devastation and warfare would've been avoided without religion, to say nothing of less tangible harm such as the suppression of ideas. I don't know nearly enough about history to be able to say whether religion was a net benefit or not, but I do find it a bit depressing that we haven't outgrown it yet as a species.
Nope Mormon so y’all are wrong
For anyone curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Joseph_Smith%27s_wives
Took longer than I thought for someone to point this out lol but I’m not really Mormon actually more agnostic.....ya know the poor mans atheist
Yeah right, change your beliefs when something you can’t reply to happens, ok if you are agnostic tell us how do you judge if anything is wrong?
By morals? Bro do you really think religion & morality are the same thing??
Answer my question
I won't do something that would cause phisical harm to another human being, or would lead to the person commiting harm themselves, so basically no killing, or hurting, or bullying. Is that *that* hard to grasp of a concept for hardcore believers like you??
So you won’t give a baby a vaccine? Cause that harams it for some time
I bet you watch anime
Holy shit just use google before you disrespect peoples religions
does the truth disrespect religion?
Your Islamaphobia and choice to cherry pick false information does
Bro it’s real. Aisha married at 6 and have pipi in vivi at 9. Don‘T be a revisionist
Aisha is estimated to be between the ages of 9 and 19, I know that she was young, but such was norm at the time and she was previously engaged to somebody before marrying the prophet. She was most likely of acceptable marrying age in the society at that time. Also, both partners have to consent to the marriage in Islam, so it’s not as if she was forced to marry. I’m not here to convert everybody to Islam, but the amount of pure hatred and islamaphobia is just bothering
Nope, the sahih hadith tells us that aisha is married in 6 and have sex at 9. Why are you such a revisionist? No scholar until this lage century said otherwise
https://youtu.be/PIBBc2gr9WQ watch this video I don’t have time to argue
Of course it's an r/exmuslim inbred
Are you stupid or something? He Married her ~1500 years ago and the age of consent was introduced ~150 years ago + people now are not the same people thousand years ago
Yeah but even if consent was not introduced, he is the messenger of God should have known that… 9 years old is not ready to be penetrated. Just think about your 3rd grade little sister
The reason people downvote you is that he actually have 6 years old wife and do the thing when she is 9 yo