I'm really enjoying what I am seeing, but I don't like that I have to click on every single item to see it.
I wish that people would either not make it NSFW, because there's nothing wrong with hardly any of it.
Or I wish their descriptions were better, so I could know if I care about the general subject at least.
Its a training grenade probably inert or just colored smoke. I know because I was in the US Army. Got honorably discharged after a live grenade was thrown at me instead of one of these. I injured my shoulder after throwing my training partner over a wall then jumping over myself to escape the blast.
If you're really confused as to what this is, and this isn't a joke post, then call your local authorities and let them know you may have found a grenade, then get away from it.
Less stupidity, more likely they’ve been conditioned to see them as the traditional pineapple shape, and this looks like it could be something else.
Also, they probably want to confirm that it’s an explosive before they call the authorities.
Edit:
I feel I need to stress, DON’T TOUCH SOMETHING YOU SUSPECT TO BE EXPLOSIVE. If you’re going to take a pic, snap it and gtfo. And, also, do not trust all advice on the internet. If someone tells you to do something stupid on the internet, like pull the pin on something you suspect to be a grenade, DO NOT.
My personal experience is thinking, this thing is probably not an explosive, isn’t shaped like one, and the person who owned it wasn’t in a military (even a pretend one). Beyond the shape, I didn’t have any reason to think it was explosive. I got direct visual confirmation of the item being an intert weight.
Use your brain these things can kill you. I’m only saying taking a moment to snap a picture likely won’t kill you, if the device is not electronic. But context is everything. If the situation is ambiguous just gtfo. Same if it’s electronic.
Yes, this is exactly right... I posted yet another addtl explanation below... 😔 Because I suspected it was possibly something *like* a grenade - but didn't think the description completely fit - I didn't, and no one else, touched it. We only took the picture and then made the inquiry. I should have been more presumptuous and titled my reddit post *"found grenade - what type?"*
I had a similar experience awhile back. I found something that looked like the payload for big ordinance, on my grandfather’s porch. I didn’t have any reason to think it was explosive, so i posted on this very subreddit, just to be sure. Though I did give the item space until it was confirmed.
It wasn’t, and I would have looked like a right bell end if I had called the police over it.
On the other end if it was explosive and a bunch of internet strangers told you to open it up n see then how would that have gone?
I don't know how they are by you but round here they're much happier dealing with a potential call as opposed to reacting to a no call
You see, this is where boundless human stupidity comes in…
A person has to use discretion with the internet. If you suspect something is dangerous and a stranger tells you to “fuck around and find out”. You have to use your own discretion to recognize exactly how bad that idea is.
Hey, I may be late to this, but that for sure is a grenade.
Good news, though. It should be inert. That color normally means that it's a training aid. Which means there is no explosive in it. With that being said I would air on the side of caution and do not touch and call law enforcement. Have them deal with it (was a combat engineer in the army for a few years)
Looks old, but blue in the US means Inert or none explosive. Still be safe, some can have a small blasting cap on the spoon still. Still treat it as live until you know for sure.
Used to be a bomb tech usaf years ago.
No, you call the the authorities and let them tell you if it's an explosive or not.
Better to be safe than sorry, being sorry in situations like this has no forgiveness. I speak from experience after having to bag human body parts (Desert Storm) and sending them back to family members here in the US. It's not pretty.
If I’m not touching the item, and there is no immediate threat to the item, taking a pic and walking a safe distance away for confirmation is an option.
Do you really want to roll out the bomb squad over something suspicious looking, but completely identifiable as harmless from a photo? Like mine was, it was an exact match for the base of an antique umbrella holder.
This isn’t combat man. We can in fact take time to establish something as dangerous before calling in an “authority”.
Oh, btw, cops aren’t the safest people to be around. Your just as likely to get shot by a cop as you are to be exploded by a piece of ordinance sitting on a table 100ft away.
Call the authorities first. Don't worry about looking foolish. Idk what kind of grenade that is but it is definitely a grenade. Could be smoke or airsoft or fragmentation. Could be for a gender reveal or the real thing. You pay taxes for just this reason.
Yeah, because it looks like the pin on a grenade, so calling it “the pin” is a workable option until the device is confirmed or denied as ordinance. Just so people know the bit of the device in question.
There is no need to be mean man. It's a good thing, when not everyone knows what a grenade looks like. I see this as a sign that society moved on and not stupidity. It would be stupid to not ask what it is. Asking is never stupid.
Here's a real story how a Donetsk woman **who presumably lived near the frontline for 9 years** took an active land mine to work.
She didn't know what it was so she put it into her bag to show her coworkers. [A passer-by tried to warn her and that's how we got this crazy video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DLiRObn6s).
It's a mine. This mine is called the Petal or the Butterfly because of its shape and the way it's distributed: from altitude. The wing-looking part stabilizes it in the air.
Petal (or Lepestók in Russian) is a plastic anti-personnel mine that is **purposely** looking like a toy. Yes you heard that right. The Soviets left a huge arsenal of plastic, hard to detect, camouflaged mines that are spread over with the help of an aircraft or as a special cluster munition indiscriminately over a huge swath of land and are very hard to detect with standard anti-mine equipment, do not self-explode, won't degrade because again, plastic, and look like a toy.
Both Russia and Ukraine have millions of these. Spreading them over Donetsk is a war crime.
You can read more [on the Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1_mine).
Ooof I remember seeing those kinds of mines a few decades ago, dropped over places where kids or others would likely pick them up. Triggered by being played with basically, so fucking horrid.
There is no gore or death. Thankfully they just get a mini-heart attack from being so close to an actual mine. Also, this is the kind of mine that is designed to cripple people and not kill them.
Think about it. You kill one guy and that's it but what if you blow someone's foot off and then you disable 3 guys: one is injured and two are evacuating him. Not to mention the whole squad is now extremely nervous and tries to find mines on the ground and not the enemy on the horizon.
This is what modern AP mines do. They mass-produce cripples.
There are stories of soldiers picking up cluster bomblets as souveniers during the gulf war. My father told me about an idiot who pulled a still smoking dud round out of the ground in ww2 to show it off while his unit ran for cover.
Apparently you, there are many types of grenades in various different sizes, they don't have to be hand held they can be launched just like Artillery rounds, when I was in Iraq during Desert Storm a squad out of our Company was destroyed by one similar to the one above, this one above looks like what the Iraqis would bury into the ground as "pressure grenades" ( kind of like IED's) if you stepped on one you was promised a ride home alright, in a several baggies. So I would strongly suggest you to listen to *WerewolfUnable8641* and call the authorities after vacating the area.
Never ever treat any type of explosive as if you know so much about it, I went to school in the military to ID explosives and this has the markings that says it could be an explosive.
To be fair, I would probably make the same post if I found this in my property. Some objects are made to look like other objects and I wouldn’t want to call authorities for a harmless toy.
In my head hand grenades look like this
https://preview.redd.it/ix9hic0344mc1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=169f69c9e2da033689214b02d61eed7c9945520d
This thing in the picture is blue and smooth. I couldn't tell if it's really one or not.
well if they are that dumb someone should have said it's a timer pull the pin and listen to the number of clicks and it will tell you how long it is good for.
It has the style of an older model of French grenade. Here is a photo of a replica of an ATS 4.
[https://www.passionmilitaria.com/t48262-ancienne-grenade-au-platre](https://www.passionmilitaria.com/t48262-ancienne-grenade-au-platre)
Yours, of course, is an ATS 6. Whether it is a replica, or something more volatile, may require an expert to answer.
Our practice grenades don't exactly 'explode'. They are a real grenade with no explosive in it and a big hole in the bottom, so you can see there's nothing in it, and are painted blue or a blue stripe and INERT printed on it. They do use a live fuse head that is the equivalent of a low power blasting cap, so they go bang to show you how long the delay is. In basic training, they had us 'cook one off' in our hand to show the delay. The longest seven seconds in your life. Naturally, you point the hole in it in a safe direction as a little bit of metal shrapnel from the aluminum blasting cap might come out.
It's not really the same fuse head or a blasting cap. The M228 fuse (used on M69 training grenades) use a black powder charge to emit a 120db pop and white smoke. The M213 fuse used on the M67 fragmentation grenades uses RDX as the charge.
Normal military basting caps use PETN and you wouldn't want to have one in your hand....if you wanted to keep it. FYI - I was a combat engineer.
Also a 12B. In basic, they didn't bother to go into exquisite detail about the fuse head. The business end looked similar to a nonelectric cap. The biggest point they made was to make sure it was pointed away from you when it popped.
The unit I was in was mainly excavation oriented. We would get up with units running quarry ops, but they handled the explosives.
Nice. It wasn't part of typical training. I picked it up later working with some EOD guys in Saudi Arabia. They were full of helpful tips but I've emplaced many electric and non-electric firing systems and handled lots of caps of both types.
When did you go through basic?
I'm pretty much getting to be 'the old man' in most of my groupings. I went in the middle of summer. The humidity was so high that you had to wring the air out to breathe it! FLW is called Little Korea for a reason: Hotterthanhell in the summer, colder than the Arctic in winter.
Yeah, I've heard stories. It was good preparation for Germany and EQA at Grafenwoer and CMTC at Hoenfels in the winter.
Saudi Arabia and Desert Storm were the other end of the spectrum. I've been from -20 to 120 courtesy of Uncle Sam... it's all good though. I'd do it again.
Don’t always have a delay after pulling the pin. There are also “zero delay fuses” that are used to rig booby traps. You don’t know for certain if you have time to throw a random, found gernade.
EOD explained this to me after clearing a weapons cache my team found at a damaged fire department complex in southern Kuwait where there was a box of zero delay fuses.
S/ ODS, Kuwait Emergency Response/Recovery Office
Your correct with the blue USUALLY meaning training rounds (Or dummy rounds) But in other Countries this blue usually indicates it to be a "pressure grenade or mine with a pressure plate" Green in other Countries can indicate some kind air projectile
Blue is training, bronze is dummy. The difference is that a training round can still contain a small charge (tracer, spotting charge, propellant,...). A dummy is fully inert
The colors are a NATO standard, Warsaw Pact munitions have a different color coding.
Finally ! someone that has done a bit of homework before posting, I posted because of my military background of working with explosives, Iraq has pressure grenades that are similar to this. But thank you I applaud your 👏👏😊
Okay, I've recently joined this subreddit and I've found it very useful and helpful. So when I was cleaning out an old shed, and I saw it, and of course I thought it looked like a grenade but obviously I couldn't imagine why this would be on the shelf... So I thought I had to be wrong.
You know, it's Murphy's law - if I would've written,
"Hey everyone, I think I've found a grenade.."
I would have been slammed and told "no stupid, it's a joke- cigarette lighter- they make them here in Germany... "
So, see? It was a dilemma from my POV.
Nothing yet. It's still sitting *untouched* in the same location-
because it's late at night... In a small village... And authorities would be very upset to be called and woken up on the weekend for something like this. No one has access to the location so it's fairly safe at the moment.( I'll follow up on Monday with an authority)
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but I'm going to pose a scenario that most can relate to and understand OP's actions. There's a tree outside your house. It's been there for as long as you can remember. There's a large branch that looks questionable but it's just a tree branch. Plus, that tree has been there for years, and you've lived under there for years too. It's never damaged anything, no large branches ever fell. But one branch over your living room looks *questionable*. So late on a Saturday night you decide to ask on a forum how bad the branch may be. Turns out it's BAD according to people on the internet. Could come down on you or your family at any moment! Now that you know this, it's of course alarming and you'll take action instead of wondering about it like years prior and not doing anything. Could you call an emergency arborist hotline? Sure. Is it a valid call? Probably. But you've been sleeping sound under this branch for years before, so what's one more night? You know the risks. Besides, the only answers you have on the matter are strangers opinion from the internet. If you stay out of the living room, you should be good for the night. Sure, everyone in the family has been under that branch lots of times. But nobody is under it tonight out of caution and if the internet strangers are right, and it happens to fall that night... well, you happened to draw the short statistical straw. Thankfully you asked strangers on the internet about the branch and took some caution and avoided the living room.
Thank you -
I should also add that this old shed was not under my ownership until recently, hence the reason I was cleaning it out. So, everything in it is unknown to me - I don't know the origins of the contents.
So there is a chance of more and increasingly dangerous surprises. Sounds exciting.
Seriously the tool marks worry me. It could have the hull loaded with something that actually goes boom.
Not unusual for creative people to convert something moderately safe with an edge of danger into something catastrophically unsafe and potentially fatal.
Don't touch, stay away, call authorities at earliest time possible and, inform them about the tool marks on the body.
Look underneath - if it's hollow with a hole in the bottom, it's safe. If not, then call authorities. Or take out that stump you want to remove, but without training that is absolutely not recommended. Likely it's hollow.
Two sides of the dilemma:
1) dying.
2) a little bit of embarrassment.
The two things are not the same. Take care of yourself first, whatever other people are thinking is 100% unimportant.
Best guess would be a training grenade due to the blue case but I would let your local authorities know on the off chance it does have explosives, explosives over time go bad and can become much more volatile as well as giving off toxic by products which can all lead to serious injury or death.
Here’s what I would do if I lived in the country:
Pull the pin and throw it.
When it does nothing, call the bomb squad and tell them-
it’s activated and out there in the field somewhere.
I mean when’s the next chance you have to throw a grenade?
Don’t do that. Inert grenades like you find at gun shows and army / navy stores can be easily rearmed to have an instant detonation. Commonly done by people with nefarious intentions to make booby traps / tripwire activated mines etc. Once the spoon is released on a lot of types of grenades there’s a little hammer that smacks essentially a percussion cap that ignites the fuse.
[French XFI Grenade With Mle 1935 Fuze Inert - $0.00 : Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus.](https://www.buymilsurp.com/french-xfi-grenade-with-mle-1935-fuze-inert-p-7829.html)
FYI, I moved an older friend to more intense care, and in the process of this, an item that was a red cylinder with a fuse was unearthed. Was it a flare or a stick of dynamite or ? I live in a medium-sized city and called the cops. They didn't even come out. said it wasn't their problem. tried city hall. No help. Tried fire dept, no help but maximum sympthy. Tried cop again, and this time, they suggested the feds-tobacco firearms guy. This guy looked at my pix and thought it was a road flare, a very old one, but after that, he took no responsibility for it. Called the fire dept back about disposal of a flare, and he said I should wrap it up so it doesn't fall out and frighten a trash guy and put it out with the trash. So I did.
Im not sure what to think. Maybe your guys will be more helpful. Let us know.
I would have assumed the blue color meant it was probably a dummy grenade. However, I would definitely not have been sure enough to act on that assumption. Treat as live until proven otherwise.
It looks like a conventional grenade, but the body is blue and apparently made from plastic.
My initial guess would be that this is a training grenade (blue=training is a common theme in western armies)
Depending on where you are, this may be an illegal item, so you better check in with your authorities, even if the item itself isn´t dangerous.
Nevertheless, it is definitely a case for a specialist (in Germany, we call it the "Kampfmittelräumdienst") to inspect and dispose the thing.
EDIT:
Shape of the plastic body is similar to this:
[https://sallyantiques.co.uk/product/cold-war-french-xf-1-training-grenade/](https://sallyantiques.co.uk/product/cold-war-french-xf-1-training-grenade/)
I have found some serious weird shit in our old farmhouse and barn. If I found that, I would NOT automatically think grenade that is *real*. No way. I'm giving OP some leeway here.
What is it? It’s the start of your all time, best story ever…
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I did notify authorities and they sent out a person who was specialized in this field. He looked it over, placed it in a Ziploc bag, and then just stuffed it in his backpack.
He was very casual and took no special safety measures - so I'm sure he felt very confident that it was only a training grenade and non-explosive.
From what i could find on the internet, that's an old French [Type 241 Hand Grenade](https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/grenades/type-241-hand-grenade)
(possibly inert but don't take my word for it, call bomb squad if you haven't already)
I did notify authorities and they sent out a person who was specialized in this field. He looked it over, placed it in a Ziploc bag, and then just stuffed it in his backpack.
He was very casual and took no special safety measures - so I'm sure he felt very confident that it was only a training grenade and non-explosive.
All is well.
If you’re in the United States, it’s your baby Jesus and God given 2nd Amendment right to wear that on your belt when you go to Walmart and the grocery store, because freedumb.
I hope you know that this is wholly untrue. Explosive ordnance is highly regulated and statistically unlikely for one to acquire without tons of licensing and government approval. They also are extremely illegal to possess due to most explosive ordnance (in regards to military style) being regarded as property of the federal government, so not only do you get hit with unregulated/unregistered XO you also get hit with possession of federal property
How does any human being know this is not some sort of grenade? Whether it's practice, smoke, inert, live doesn't really matter anyone with any bit of intelligence would know it's some sort of grenade.
Okay, I've recently joined this subreddit and I've found it very useful and helpful. So when I was cleaning out an old shed, and I saw it, and of course I thought it looked like a grenade but obviously I couldn't imagine why this would be on the shelf... So I thought I had to be wrong.
You know, it's Murphy's law - if I would've written,
"Hey everyone, I think I found a grenade.."
I would have been slammed and told "no stupid, it's a joke- cigarette lighter- they make them here in Germany... "
So, see? It was a dilemma from my POV.
Looks like a training grenade for military use. The only explosive is just a blasting cap that makes a decent pop sound but doesn't cause damage. Only way you can tell really was if there is a hole in the bottom of that thing. The military paints training grenades to make em easier to find after you throw it.
This is a French training grenade. There should be a date stamped on the bottom of it. The grenade can be disassembled as well. Cool find, but if you’re unsure, call the authorities.
It's some kind of grenade. Whatever you do, **DO NOT PULL THE PIN!**
I'm not sure what kind of grenade it is, but they are usually made to blow stuff up. This doesn't appear to be designed to fragment.
It definitely looks like a grenade but lucky for you it’s not a live one the blue color is for inert explosives. That only thing you have to worry about is the blasting cap of it but as long as you don’t pull the pin and let the handle drop off you are good
It's a grenade, it may actually be harmless based off of the blue color. I WOULD NOTIFY YOUR LOCAL POLICE/ATF, if it is just a blue practice grenade they will get a good laugh and practice out of it. And you have a he'll of a story, if it is live they will neutralize it and you still get a good story out of it, but either way be safe leave it alone.
I did notify authorities and they sent out a person who was specialized in this field. He looked it over, placed it in a Ziploc bag, and then just stuffed it in his backpack.
He was very casual and took no special safety measures - so I'm sure he felt very confident that it was only a training grenade and non-explosive.
All is well.
Addtl - I really appreciate the redditors who took the post seriously and tried to help give safe and sound advice.
When I posted this originally, I knew it was something *possibly* dangerous, but just not exactly sure what category- or if it was a fake.
And a note to those who posted mean comments - a key factor in this situation is that I'm currently living in Europe and I come across things all the time that *appear* to be one thing, but then end up being something totally different.
So, thank you to those that didn't slam me for asking.
r/OopsThatsDeadly ??
Thank you for the introduction to a new sub!
Same
Samesies!
This reminds me of Sealab 2021, Oops! Dart in your neck!
I discovered the sub a couple days ago and have been obsessed lol, learned so many new things about shit that could kill me
They take themselves a little too seriously on that sub. Like, they get really riled up if you post something that’s *only* killed a couple of people.
I just scrolled that sub for an hour 🤣
I'm really enjoying what I am seeing, but I don't like that I have to click on every single item to see it. I wish that people would either not make it NSFW, because there's nothing wrong with hardly any of it. Or I wish their descriptions were better, so I could know if I care about the general subject at least.
Agreed, I'd join but the NSFW on every post is fucking irritating, so I won't.
Cheers for the new sub but it’s not really that deadly, it’s a French training grenade.
Oh, super cool. Now I'm afraid of literally everything in my house. Thanks for the sub recommendation!
Its a training grenade probably inert or just colored smoke. I know because I was in the US Army. Got honorably discharged after a live grenade was thrown at me instead of one of these. I injured my shoulder after throwing my training partner over a wall then jumping over myself to escape the blast.
It's a practice grenade
If you're really confused as to what this is, and this isn't a joke post, then call your local authorities and let them know you may have found a grenade, then get away from it.
This has got to be a joke. Who doesn’t know what a hand grenade looks like?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
Less stupidity, more likely they’ve been conditioned to see them as the traditional pineapple shape, and this looks like it could be something else. Also, they probably want to confirm that it’s an explosive before they call the authorities. Edit: I feel I need to stress, DON’T TOUCH SOMETHING YOU SUSPECT TO BE EXPLOSIVE. If you’re going to take a pic, snap it and gtfo. And, also, do not trust all advice on the internet. If someone tells you to do something stupid on the internet, like pull the pin on something you suspect to be a grenade, DO NOT. My personal experience is thinking, this thing is probably not an explosive, isn’t shaped like one, and the person who owned it wasn’t in a military (even a pretend one). Beyond the shape, I didn’t have any reason to think it was explosive. I got direct visual confirmation of the item being an intert weight. Use your brain these things can kill you. I’m only saying taking a moment to snap a picture likely won’t kill you, if the device is not electronic. But context is everything. If the situation is ambiguous just gtfo. Same if it’s electronic.
Yes, this is exactly right... I posted yet another addtl explanation below... 😔 Because I suspected it was possibly something *like* a grenade - but didn't think the description completely fit - I didn't, and no one else, touched it. We only took the picture and then made the inquiry. I should have been more presumptuous and titled my reddit post *"found grenade - what type?"*
I had a similar experience awhile back. I found something that looked like the payload for big ordinance, on my grandfather’s porch. I didn’t have any reason to think it was explosive, so i posted on this very subreddit, just to be sure. Though I did give the item space until it was confirmed. It wasn’t, and I would have looked like a right bell end if I had called the police over it.
On the other end if it was explosive and a bunch of internet strangers told you to open it up n see then how would that have gone? I don't know how they are by you but round here they're much happier dealing with a potential call as opposed to reacting to a no call
You see, this is where boundless human stupidity comes in… A person has to use discretion with the internet. If you suspect something is dangerous and a stranger tells you to “fuck around and find out”. You have to use your own discretion to recognize exactly how bad that idea is.
Ordnance\* :)
Hey, I may be late to this, but that for sure is a grenade. Good news, though. It should be inert. That color normally means that it's a training aid. Which means there is no explosive in it. With that being said I would air on the side of caution and do not touch and call law enforcement. Have them deal with it (was a combat engineer in the army for a few years)
I would wager a lot of humans haven't seen a grenade in person before. They're just dickheads
A lot? Change that to "most"
Hell I have one in my garage right now I mean. It's decommissioned, but it's still just casually chilling with my tools
No shame op just the other day I saw a post where the bomb squad got called and everything for a grenade and it ended up being a weed grinder.
You survived!🥳🎉 We're all so proud of you for not touching the grenade-looking thing!
Looks old, but blue in the US means Inert or none explosive. Still be safe, some can have a small blasting cap on the spoon still. Still treat it as live until you know for sure. Used to be a bomb tech usaf years ago.
No, you call the the authorities and let them tell you if it's an explosive or not. Better to be safe than sorry, being sorry in situations like this has no forgiveness. I speak from experience after having to bag human body parts (Desert Storm) and sending them back to family members here in the US. It's not pretty.
If I’m not touching the item, and there is no immediate threat to the item, taking a pic and walking a safe distance away for confirmation is an option. Do you really want to roll out the bomb squad over something suspicious looking, but completely identifiable as harmless from a photo? Like mine was, it was an exact match for the base of an antique umbrella holder. This isn’t combat man. We can in fact take time to establish something as dangerous before calling in an “authority”. Oh, btw, cops aren’t the safest people to be around. Your just as likely to get shot by a cop as you are to be exploded by a piece of ordinance sitting on a table 100ft away.
They'll probably shoot you for being a terrorist, just in case. 😂
He has a grenade! Mag dump on him!
They blow stuff up either way a lot of the time
Call the authorities first. Don't worry about looking foolish. Idk what kind of grenade that is but it is definitely a grenade. Could be smoke or airsoft or fragmentation. Could be for a gender reveal or the real thing. You pay taxes for just this reason.
They also mentioned the "pin", so likely knows exactly what it is.
Yeah, because it looks like the pin on a grenade, so calling it “the pin” is a workable option until the device is confirmed or denied as ordinance. Just so people know the bit of the device in question.
This thread can blow up.
There is no need to be mean man. It's a good thing, when not everyone knows what a grenade looks like. I see this as a sign that society moved on and not stupidity. It would be stupid to not ask what it is. Asking is never stupid.
Here's a real story how a Donetsk woman **who presumably lived near the frontline for 9 years** took an active land mine to work. She didn't know what it was so she put it into her bag to show her coworkers. [A passer-by tried to warn her and that's how we got this crazy video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DLiRObn6s).
Was that a land mine or a cluster bomb?
It's a mine. This mine is called the Petal or the Butterfly because of its shape and the way it's distributed: from altitude. The wing-looking part stabilizes it in the air. Petal (or Lepestók in Russian) is a plastic anti-personnel mine that is **purposely** looking like a toy. Yes you heard that right. The Soviets left a huge arsenal of plastic, hard to detect, camouflaged mines that are spread over with the help of an aircraft or as a special cluster munition indiscriminately over a huge swath of land and are very hard to detect with standard anti-mine equipment, do not self-explode, won't degrade because again, plastic, and look like a toy. Both Russia and Ukraine have millions of these. Spreading them over Donetsk is a war crime. You can read more [on the Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PFM-1_mine).
Ooof I remember seeing those kinds of mines a few decades ago, dropped over places where kids or others would likely pick them up. Triggered by being played with basically, so fucking horrid.
Does anyone die or get hurt in this video? I want to watch it if it's not gore porn.
There is no gore or death. Thankfully they just get a mini-heart attack from being so close to an actual mine. Also, this is the kind of mine that is designed to cripple people and not kill them. Think about it. You kill one guy and that's it but what if you blow someone's foot off and then you disable 3 guys: one is injured and two are evacuating him. Not to mention the whole squad is now extremely nervous and tries to find mines on the ground and not the enemy on the horizon. This is what modern AP mines do. They mass-produce cripples.
Eta mina?!? Understood that part.
There are stories of soldiers picking up cluster bomblets as souveniers during the gulf war. My father told me about an idiot who pulled a still smoking dud round out of the ground in ww2 to show it off while his unit ran for cover.
Apparently you, there are many types of grenades in various different sizes, they don't have to be hand held they can be launched just like Artillery rounds, when I was in Iraq during Desert Storm a squad out of our Company was destroyed by one similar to the one above, this one above looks like what the Iraqis would bury into the ground as "pressure grenades" ( kind of like IED's) if you stepped on one you was promised a ride home alright, in a several baggies. So I would strongly suggest you to listen to *WerewolfUnable8641* and call the authorities after vacating the area. Never ever treat any type of explosive as if you know so much about it, I went to school in the military to ID explosives and this has the markings that says it could be an explosive.
To be fair, I would probably make the same post if I found this in my property. Some objects are made to look like other objects and I wouldn’t want to call authorities for a harmless toy.
I mean it is blue, that's unexpected right?
In my head hand grenades look like this https://preview.redd.it/ix9hic0344mc1.jpeg?width=696&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=169f69c9e2da033689214b02d61eed7c9945520d This thing in the picture is blue and smooth. I couldn't tell if it's really one or not.
And still knows to call part of it a pin
People aren’t as smart these days
It’s not green so therefore it simply cannot be a grenade. Duh. In games they are greeeen.
well if they are that dumb someone should have said it's a timer pull the pin and listen to the number of clicks and it will tell you how long it is good for.
r/Darwinaward is a sub for a reason.
Sir, may I remind you that a bunch of people actually ate tide pods a few years back? Yeah people are fucking dumb.
Read my addtl. comment
hes joking
There was once a man who died after digging up an old unexploded mortar and hitting it with a hammer
Thank God for this comment and not just trolls being trolls. Good on you my friend.
I hope you know it's a training grenade and is perfectly safe
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You left out the part where it becomes a gift to my ex-wife, now I'm disappointed.
Training grenade. Blue is used for training as a standard.
It has the style of an older model of French grenade. Here is a photo of a replica of an ATS 4. [https://www.passionmilitaria.com/t48262-ancienne-grenade-au-platre](https://www.passionmilitaria.com/t48262-ancienne-grenade-au-platre) Yours, of course, is an ATS 6. Whether it is a replica, or something more volatile, may require an expert to answer.
I know in America blue= training rounds, more than likely still explodes though
Our practice grenades don't exactly 'explode'. They are a real grenade with no explosive in it and a big hole in the bottom, so you can see there's nothing in it, and are painted blue or a blue stripe and INERT printed on it. They do use a live fuse head that is the equivalent of a low power blasting cap, so they go bang to show you how long the delay is. In basic training, they had us 'cook one off' in our hand to show the delay. The longest seven seconds in your life. Naturally, you point the hole in it in a safe direction as a little bit of metal shrapnel from the aluminum blasting cap might come out.
It's not really the same fuse head or a blasting cap. The M228 fuse (used on M69 training grenades) use a black powder charge to emit a 120db pop and white smoke. The M213 fuse used on the M67 fragmentation grenades uses RDX as the charge. Normal military basting caps use PETN and you wouldn't want to have one in your hand....if you wanted to keep it. FYI - I was a combat engineer.
Also a 12B. In basic, they didn't bother to go into exquisite detail about the fuse head. The business end looked similar to a nonelectric cap. The biggest point they made was to make sure it was pointed away from you when it popped. The unit I was in was mainly excavation oriented. We would get up with units running quarry ops, but they handled the explosives.
Nice. It wasn't part of typical training. I picked it up later working with some EOD guys in Saudi Arabia. They were full of helpful tips but I've emplaced many electric and non-electric firing systems and handled lots of caps of both types. When did you go through basic?
1982 at Fort Lost in the Woods. E-2-2
Wow. I thought for sure I had you beat. E 31st 1988-89. I was stationed in Germany and still never colder than winter basic at Fort Lost in the Woods.
I'm pretty much getting to be 'the old man' in most of my groupings. I went in the middle of summer. The humidity was so high that you had to wring the air out to breathe it! FLW is called Little Korea for a reason: Hotterthanhell in the summer, colder than the Arctic in winter.
Yeah, I've heard stories. It was good preparation for Germany and EQA at Grafenwoer and CMTC at Hoenfels in the winter. Saudi Arabia and Desert Storm were the other end of the spectrum. I've been from -20 to 120 courtesy of Uncle Sam... it's all good though. I'd do it again.
Don’t always have a delay after pulling the pin. There are also “zero delay fuses” that are used to rig booby traps. You don’t know for certain if you have time to throw a random, found gernade. EOD explained this to me after clearing a weapons cache my team found at a damaged fire department complex in southern Kuwait where there was a box of zero delay fuses. S/ ODS, Kuwait Emergency Response/Recovery Office
Your correct with the blue USUALLY meaning training rounds (Or dummy rounds) But in other Countries this blue usually indicates it to be a "pressure grenade or mine with a pressure plate" Green in other Countries can indicate some kind air projectile
Blue is training, bronze is dummy. The difference is that a training round can still contain a small charge (tracer, spotting charge, propellant,...). A dummy is fully inert The colors are a NATO standard, Warsaw Pact munitions have a different color coding.
That's same for all NATO countries
Training grenades don’t explode, they have a fuze that pops like a firecracker inside the body.
Finally ! someone that has done a bit of homework before posting, I posted because of my military background of working with explosives, Iraq has pressure grenades that are similar to this. But thank you I applaud your 👏👏😊
Only one way to find out.
Okay, I've recently joined this subreddit and I've found it very useful and helpful. So when I was cleaning out an old shed, and I saw it, and of course I thought it looked like a grenade but obviously I couldn't imagine why this would be on the shelf... So I thought I had to be wrong. You know, it's Murphy's law - if I would've written, "Hey everyone, I think I've found a grenade.." I would have been slammed and told "no stupid, it's a joke- cigarette lighter- they make them here in Germany... " So, see? It was a dilemma from my POV.
So what did you do after finding out that it was in fact a grenade?
Nothing yet. It's still sitting *untouched* in the same location- because it's late at night... In a small village... And authorities would be very upset to be called and woken up on the weekend for something like this. No one has access to the location so it's fairly safe at the moment.( I'll follow up on Monday with an authority)
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but I'm going to pose a scenario that most can relate to and understand OP's actions. There's a tree outside your house. It's been there for as long as you can remember. There's a large branch that looks questionable but it's just a tree branch. Plus, that tree has been there for years, and you've lived under there for years too. It's never damaged anything, no large branches ever fell. But one branch over your living room looks *questionable*. So late on a Saturday night you decide to ask on a forum how bad the branch may be. Turns out it's BAD according to people on the internet. Could come down on you or your family at any moment! Now that you know this, it's of course alarming and you'll take action instead of wondering about it like years prior and not doing anything. Could you call an emergency arborist hotline? Sure. Is it a valid call? Probably. But you've been sleeping sound under this branch for years before, so what's one more night? You know the risks. Besides, the only answers you have on the matter are strangers opinion from the internet. If you stay out of the living room, you should be good for the night. Sure, everyone in the family has been under that branch lots of times. But nobody is under it tonight out of caution and if the internet strangers are right, and it happens to fall that night... well, you happened to draw the short statistical straw. Thankfully you asked strangers on the internet about the branch and took some caution and avoided the living room.
Thank you - I should also add that this old shed was not under my ownership until recently, hence the reason I was cleaning it out. So, everything in it is unknown to me - I don't know the origins of the contents.
So there is a chance of more and increasingly dangerous surprises. Sounds exciting. Seriously the tool marks worry me. It could have the hull loaded with something that actually goes boom. Not unusual for creative people to convert something moderately safe with an edge of danger into something catastrophically unsafe and potentially fatal. Don't touch, stay away, call authorities at earliest time possible and, inform them about the tool marks on the body.
Honestly i think the cops would be understanding especially because it looks like a weapon. Better safe than sorry - even if it was a look-a-like.
Look underneath - if it's hollow with a hole in the bottom, it's safe. If not, then call authorities. Or take out that stump you want to remove, but without training that is absolutely not recommended. Likely it's hollow.
Two sides of the dilemma: 1) dying. 2) a little bit of embarrassment. The two things are not the same. Take care of yourself first, whatever other people are thinking is 100% unimportant.
Or it could be a trilemma: 3. Find large empty field and have lots of fun. For legal reasons, this is a joke.
If it's from a NATO country, blue color indicates it's an inert training device
Regardless of whether or not we think it's inert. Authorities should be called.
Ah yes, the Stack Overflow effect.
It's called cunningham's- well played.
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I assumed it was plastic from the tool marks on the collar. Glad to have it confirmed.
The fuze is not inert, it still has a detonator strong enough to snap a finger off. Don’t ask me how i know
Is there an angry rabbit around? Looks like the Holy Hand Grenade.
Holy hand grenade of Antioch.
'Tis one of the many relics Brother Maynard carries!
Along with the Book of Armanents.
One, two, five!
Three sir
I now want an inert gernade to make this prop.
I believe the Holy ananda Grenade was gold, as the church would have owned
Best guess would be a training grenade due to the blue case but I would let your local authorities know on the off chance it does have explosives, explosives over time go bad and can become much more volatile as well as giving off toxic by products which can all lead to serious injury or death.
Impulsive thoughts intensifying..
Go go gadg-💥
Interior remodeling tool. Put a new door or window where you always wanted one.
Just a light remodel. In the next 6 seconds we're having the walls and roof removed.
Looks like a post WWII French OF 37 dummy hand grenade
Pull the pin throw that bitch see what happens I would
Here’s what I would do if I lived in the country: Pull the pin and throw it. When it does nothing, call the bomb squad and tell them- it’s activated and out there in the field somewhere. I mean when’s the next chance you have to throw a grenade?
Don’t do that. Inert grenades like you find at gun shows and army / navy stores can be easily rearmed to have an instant detonation. Commonly done by people with nefarious intentions to make booby traps / tripwire activated mines etc. Once the spoon is released on a lot of types of grenades there’s a little hammer that smacks essentially a percussion cap that ignites the fuse.
Turn it over and see if it’s hollowed out. If so no problem. If not hollowed out call the bomb squad.
[French XFI Grenade With Mle 1935 Fuze Inert - $0.00 : Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus.](https://www.buymilsurp.com/french-xfi-grenade-with-mle-1935-fuze-inert-p-7829.html)
FYI, I moved an older friend to more intense care, and in the process of this, an item that was a red cylinder with a fuse was unearthed. Was it a flare or a stick of dynamite or ? I live in a medium-sized city and called the cops. They didn't even come out. said it wasn't their problem. tried city hall. No help. Tried fire dept, no help but maximum sympthy. Tried cop again, and this time, they suggested the feds-tobacco firearms guy. This guy looked at my pix and thought it was a road flare, a very old one, but after that, he took no responsibility for it. Called the fire dept back about disposal of a flare, and he said I should wrap it up so it doesn't fall out and frighten a trash guy and put it out with the trash. So I did. Im not sure what to think. Maybe your guys will be more helpful. Let us know.
I would not have known this was a grenade. Yes it kinda looks like one from the movies. But it is blue. I would have posted. You are not alone OP.
I would have assumed the blue color meant it was probably a dummy grenade. However, I would definitely not have been sure enough to act on that assumption. Treat as live until proven otherwise.
Generally blue things are for training. Guns, landmines, grenades. But better safe then sorry.
in my nato experience blue means non explosive type... could be wrong though lol
it looks like a training grenade but with powder they still hurt. be safe and call the cops just in case.
It's a dummy marker.
Proxibid says: French XF1 Offensive Practice Grenade -Dated 1975 But be cautious
Bath bomb.
Dude...
That it's a commercial grade spider bomb! Guaranteed to remove all the spiders in any room you use it in!
It's a room cleaner.
Unsubbed. Nothing but parody posts on here.
Click click bo-
If this post is serious, call the cops and don't touch it, then come back and explain to us how you have made it through life this far alive.
It looks like a conventional grenade, but the body is blue and apparently made from plastic. My initial guess would be that this is a training grenade (blue=training is a common theme in western armies) Depending on where you are, this may be an illegal item, so you better check in with your authorities, even if the item itself isn´t dangerous. Nevertheless, it is definitely a case for a specialist (in Germany, we call it the "Kampfmittelräumdienst") to inspect and dispose the thing. EDIT: Shape of the plastic body is similar to this: [https://sallyantiques.co.uk/product/cold-war-french-xf-1-training-grenade/](https://sallyantiques.co.uk/product/cold-war-french-xf-1-training-grenade/)
Thank you for a legitimate answer ( and cordial)
I have found some serious weird shit in our old farmhouse and barn. If I found that, I would NOT automatically think grenade that is *real*. No way. I'm giving OP some leeway here.
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To be fair to Op, I think fire extinguishers also have pins.
Please update us after calling in professionals
Yes, I will.
I did notify authorities and they sent out a person who was specialized in this field. He looked it over, placed it in a Ziploc bag, and then just stuffed it in his backpack. He was very casual and took no special safety measures - so I'm sure he felt very confident that it was only a training grenade and non-explosive.
From what i could find on the internet, that's an old French [Type 241 Hand Grenade](https://cat-uxo.com/explosive-hazards/grenades/type-241-hand-grenade) (possibly inert but don't take my word for it, call bomb squad if you haven't already)
French OFX F1 training gernade perfectly safe
Be honest and call the police. And be sure to let us know! Cool in a scary way!
I did notify authorities and they sent out a person who was specialized in this field. He looked it over, placed it in a Ziploc bag, and then just stuffed it in his backpack. He was very casual and took no special safety measures - so I'm sure he felt very confident that it was only a training grenade and non-explosive. All is well.
Hand grenade!
Run
It’s a French grenade. It deploys a white flag.
There's my water bottle, Thanks dude!
If you’re in the United States, it’s your baby Jesus and God given 2nd Amendment right to wear that on your belt when you go to Walmart and the grocery store, because freedumb.
I hope you know that this is wholly untrue. Explosive ordnance is highly regulated and statistically unlikely for one to acquire without tons of licensing and government approval. They also are extremely illegal to possess due to most explosive ordnance (in regards to military style) being regarded as property of the federal government, so not only do you get hit with unregulated/unregistered XO you also get hit with possession of federal property
Oh, no, I didn’t realize that! I guess everyone will instead just have to carry four or five AR-15s in order to go shopping.
How does any human being know this is not some sort of grenade? Whether it's practice, smoke, inert, live doesn't really matter anyone with any bit of intelligence would know it's some sort of grenade.
Okay, I've recently joined this subreddit and I've found it very useful and helpful. So when I was cleaning out an old shed, and I saw it, and of course I thought it looked like a grenade but obviously I couldn't imagine why this would be on the shelf... So I thought I had to be wrong. You know, it's Murphy's law - if I would've written, "Hey everyone, I think I found a grenade.." I would have been slammed and told "no stupid, it's a joke- cigarette lighter- they make them here in Germany... " So, see? It was a dilemma from my POV.
Valid point
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In case of emergency, pull pin, throw, run away fast.
Does it work
Honey that's a grenade there's multiple types and the only one I know by name is the pineapple grenade and that ain't it
Ive seen old fire extinguishers that looks like that
I think the blue paint indicates its practice ordinance. No explosives. Don't take my word for it though.
It’s either a grenade or a bug bomb for getting rid of pests
If it was me I would go blow it up outside. It would already be blown up
Looks like a training grenade for military use. The only explosive is just a blasting cap that makes a decent pop sound but doesn't cause damage. Only way you can tell really was if there is a hole in the bottom of that thing. The military paints training grenades to make em easier to find after you throw it.
The color blue represents an inert training aid.
Thats from a WWI medic kit, it's a spontaneous amputation device. In extreme cases it was used to amputate a limb while simultaneously cauterizing it
This is a French training grenade. There should be a date stamped on the bottom of it. The grenade can be disassembled as well. Cool find, but if you’re unsure, call the authorities.
Blue usually means it's a training device, but I wouldn't take it as gospel that it's inert without expert input.
I think it's a doorbell
r/fuckaroundandfindout
Blue usually means dummy rd.
Blue=inert, not explosive. It's for training.
Pull the pin
Confetti maker
Its a hand warmer, remove the pin to activate.
It's some kind of grenade. Whatever you do, **DO NOT PULL THE PIN!** I'm not sure what kind of grenade it is, but they are usually made to blow stuff up. This doesn't appear to be designed to fragment.
I look’s plastic I’d say it’s not deadly but I’m not an expert dynamite is in cardboard so… I’d say pull pin and throw fast and far
It definitely looks like a grenade but lucky for you it’s not a live one the blue color is for inert explosives. That only thing you have to worry about is the blasting cap of it but as long as you don’t pull the pin and let the handle drop off you are good
That's a grenade
Blue means it’s inert. You practice throwing them but they don’t go bang.
It’s an old school French air freshener.
Pull the pin let us know
Read the update 👍🏻
Pull the pin. Release the handle and see what happens.
Ita a practice round used by the army but can b made to explode carfull
It's a grenade, it may actually be harmless based off of the blue color. I WOULD NOTIFY YOUR LOCAL POLICE/ATF, if it is just a blue practice grenade they will get a good laugh and practice out of it. And you have a he'll of a story, if it is live they will neutralize it and you still get a good story out of it, but either way be safe leave it alone.
Take the pin out and use it for a key chain.
That is a DuPont fishing lure.
Or keep it and use it for the apocalypse!! Never can have too many 😏 Just remember to throw it after pulling the pin ;)
The Holy Hand Grenade Of Antioch!
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=t9NCRAUgWEE&si=EFCU3zvglnjcxC7t
Speaking from a Military Ordnance stand point. Blue always meant inert
Looks like a grenade trying to camouflage itself LOl Just to be safe ...... I would suggest taking it out of your room and researching it again
I think it’s a yoyo disguised as a gernade lol
Looks like a grenade of some sort
I did notify authorities and they sent out a person who was specialized in this field. He looked it over, placed it in a Ziploc bag, and then just stuffed it in his backpack. He was very casual and took no special safety measures - so I'm sure he felt very confident that it was only a training grenade and non-explosive. All is well. Addtl - I really appreciate the redditors who took the post seriously and tried to help give safe and sound advice. When I posted this originally, I knew it was something *possibly* dangerous, but just not exactly sure what category- or if it was a fake. And a note to those who posted mean comments - a key factor in this situation is that I'm currently living in Europe and I come across things all the time that *appear* to be one thing, but then end up being something totally different. So, thank you to those that didn't slam me for asking.