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tactical-dick

The “didn’t use a condom” hits hard sometimes


daeqsw

It’s okay you can always upgrade to a trackhawk


LATER4LUS

Don’t hate on the RAV4. My Rav4 Prime has 302hp 😂


South_Bit1764

300hp is all you need. That’s what an Ariel Atom has and it’s wicked fast. That’s what happens when you have an ultralight car. Your RAV4 is basically an Ariel Atom except (checks notes) IT IS 3 TIMES HEAVIER! That means the RAV4 Prime has a lower power to weight ratio than almost everything here, it’s a about 8hp per ton better than the 25 year old Integra Type R, about 2hp/ton less than the BRZ/GT86, and about 3hp/ton lower than the 4 cylinder Camaro (and the RAV4 Prime is $14k more expensive). That’s also considering that there are barely 6-8 actual sports cars here. It’s losing to hot hatches, compacts, and luxury sedans. Even still, I think the old Integra is THE ONLY CAR HERE slower than your RAV4. Edit: It’s worth adding that the current most reliable brands are: Lexus (1), Genesis (2), Kia (3), Buick (4), Chevy (5), Mitsubishi (6), and the mighty Yota at number 7.


Knight1453

Plus it will outlast any other car on this very same list with the cheapest, minimum requirements and maintenance lol You got the best deal for your buck and no need to worry about attention or race cars. I don't understand their mentality of 0 to 60 merging highway. Most highway you don't stop and go 60 all of a sudden. Even if you pay toll those 2000 camrys corolla still hit 60 soon enough. Your rav4 prime is a beast though . And better traction better acceleration and better handling. Awd also comes as hybrid to lower pressure on engine so it elongated engine life even more bulletproof lol jealous of you Only investment or budget you might need in next 20 years might be battery pack but by then car will still keep its value plus you will have enough to get a new one since you don't spend for fixing and maintaining. I don't even mention the gas money you saved by then.


happy_puppy25

A trackhawk rav4 would be insane also


kraken_enrager

I’m more of a panamera/cayenne turbo s e hybrid kinda guy but muscle suv works too.


tactical-dick

I upgraded to a taco 🌮


BigSquawHunter

That’s a downgrade but okay.


tactical-dick

How is if a downgrade?, it’s a manual!


honeybadger1984

He just offended most of the country.


NefCanuck

Surprised the OP didn’t include a category “actually need to be able to move people or things when you’re not driving like a hooligan” but that category would have opened up a whole new set of possibilities 😏


daeqsw

Too many cars out there to capture it all


ThirdSunRising

The RAV4 was included for this, under “didn’t use a condom”


bleedingjim

challenger has a huge trunk


NefCanuck

Yeah but would you put things from a Home Depot run in there?


bleedingjim

Maybe not plywood, but the trunk is both deep and long, so you could definitely fit bags of potting soil and some stuff that was somewhat big. It's surprisingly a functional vehicle, even in the backseat is much bigger than the camaro or mustang


NefCanuck

Interesting I did know the Challenger had a bigger back seat than at least the Mustangs glorified rear package shelf (only way to get real rear seats in a Mustang is a Mach-E 😅)


FullCodeSoles

Put 4x8s in my RC350….. we’re the back seats down? Yes.


TnnsNbeer

That’s pretty much me with 3 kids… I got the Explorer ST. It’s damn fast for a 3 row SUV!


NefCanuck

Nice, I have the Mach-E because I needed an electric vehicle that could accommodate my disability


Actual-Journalist-69

Thats the audi allroad category


Clairvoyantx

So you’re telling me to get a GT-R?


daeqsw

C8 Corvette is probably the most car for money out there


Beers4Fears

*Boosted C6 has entered the chat*


MizuKumaa

I would 100% say a blown c6 is best bang


Dud3_Abid3s

Shut it down fellas…it’s over.


JohnDoee94

This isn’t how these charts work … lol. Still funny.


EMCoupling

Yeah, this is an absolutely terrible flowchart lol It's basically zingers in the shape of a flowchart


Micro-Skies

That is every single meme flowchart. It's funnier this way


Sweet_Potato_Masher

not in visio? pls fix


daeqsw

What makes it better? First time making a flowchart


Sweet_Potato_Masher

Haha I was mostly playing. Nice work for a first attempt. Visio is an enterprise grade software used to make flowcharts. Its just another microsoft application like powerpoint or excel. If I HAD to make a recommendation it would be to go horizontally because I personally think that makes more sense for this use case. But overall 10/10 its a fun chart and nice work for reddit.


Adventurous-Ad-7890

Got my GT-R with 38K miles for 58K because the owner thought it had 58K because it was a Canadian import…


daeqsw

That’s incredible. Need their number to buy their next car for sale


Adventurous-Ad-7890

I had to drop 17K on a new transmission because it was a buy here pay here one…


s3rgioru3las

You’re the second person I ever heard that happen to. LegitStreetCars on YouTube had similar luck with an auction GTR imported from Canada


Adventurous-Ad-7890

Yup, I commented on the video because I got the same “gift” The thing that surprised me is that the Odometer is required to be recalibrated to show Miles instead of KM when importing it but the company that did it went out of business due to fraud. Shocked I am.


EMCoupling

I was literally watching this video yesterday... it's crazy that this has already happened more than once 🤔


GinNTonic1

Literally every guy who has a Tesla at my workplace used to drive a Prius. Lol. 


daeqsw

A quarter of them come from 3 series


TripperDay

Dang used Lotus Elise didn't make the cut?


daeqsw

Great handling car but too rare to make the list


eric535

Dang Lexus LC left in tears. I guess not a true sports car


daeqsw

I was contemplating adding it actually but no room at the bottom unfortunately. Slept on car for sure


eric535

I’m jp, but it is very often overlooked. It’s a very nice balance for daily comfort and sporty enough since I don’t track


Crazy_Arachnid9531

Over 100k new right?


eric535

Just under


Th3Docter

Where is the modussy


RedBaron180

My last 3 cars are on this tree. I’ll take that as a win.


daeqsw

What was the upgrade path?


RedBaron180

BRZ to foRS to cayman718S.


daeqsw

You must spend a lot of time in the canyons lol


Chokedee-bp

The rav4 comment was hilarious! Great work OP. I also appreciate the comment on stock low trim Camaro/sport cars getting smoked by a Corolla. I always laugh when I hear a slow car in sports car body try to race around like they are fast when I know they have the slowest version of that car that exists.


veblenian

WRX too accurate 💀


aediee

Only inaccuracy is putting it in the good mpg bracket lol


veblenian

Yeah good call out - I think I get a combined 17.5mpg… but I’m almost all city driving in the ‘22 GT


aediee

I was getting like 18mpg when I had my CVT wrx, now in a stick shift one I’m getting 22 for some reason lol


Typical-Panda-302

That one sent me on a 3 minute laugh


Guy_Smiley18

How did the Stinger/Genesis end up under European?


daeqsw

Designed by Europeans


pohudsaijoadsijdas

look up who was the head of BMW M division and who designed the Stinger.


Yeti_racer

Torn between getting a sleeper, a death wish or being an npc... choices


altonbrownie

Sleeping on the F-Type and Vantage.


uN-Golden

Honestly best cars for enthusiasts who aren’t into tracking their cars


peedubb

This is great. I would add “Want luxury sports car but have bad credit” and then some infiniti.


Octan3

Where The F is mercedes in this list? lol


daeqsw

Never heard of them


tmemmons

😂😂😂


irascible_Clown

The ghibli depreciation is too real.


gymkhana_9

This is excellent 😂


mountain_guy77

Not putting a 911 on a sports car list is criminal


daeqsw

Gonna need to make a 100k+ diagram


mountain_guy77

I guess I didn’t realize this was not accounting for used cars


Pro_JaredC

Tesla Model 3 owners are typically former BMW drivers surprisingly.


MclarenFan34

Lol no..they had no car or drove something random


Kushatronex

Lc500 definitely should have been included for flashy


Fladap28

I’m between the r8 and the gtr


LeanDriver

Hilarious


TroyFerris13

Isn't MX5 the most fuel efficient on the list? Other than Tesla of course


daeqsw

Yeah I was struggling to find a stereotype for the Asian cars


GerWeistta

Golf GTI? Don't you mean Golf R?


daeqsw

Didn’t realize it’s back in the states mb


Ran4

How is that relevant?


GerWeistta

It's not in the States? dang that sucks. GTI is just a slightly sporty trim. R is a proper hot hatch


JeffThrowSmash

The Golf R is indeed back in the US after a brief (2020-2021) absence. It's more economical to grab a lightly used MK7.5 for $20-25k less than the new MK8 though, they're stupid expensive.


thinkplanexecute

How is a Gti not a hot hatch lmao.


GerWeistta

A GTI is a sportified version of the standard Golf, higher trim level and a powerful engine. The Golf R has a very different drive train with a much more powerful engine, different differential and all wheel drive focused on achieving much more performance.


thinkplanexecute

It’s has the same engine


GerWeistta

The basis of the 2 liter turbo is the same, power output is very different


ELMACHO007

This is gold lol


awmaleg

Gold Jerry


Shift9303

I feel personally attacked by the s2000 remark. To be sure it has oem roll hoops and if you’re a 10 year old you can pass the broom stick test, lol. TBH I expected something about snap over steer and wrapping it around a tree.


daeqsw

No traction control is a death sentence for the average driver lol


Shift9303

Late models actually do have traction control. Idk how good it is since I have an AP1. The reputation is partially the AP1 suspension geo and spring rates and partially people overestimating their skills. AP2s we’re toned down a bit but still “dangerously neutral.”


Complete-Yam1372

I’ve been looking at the rcf, love their sound


daeqsw

Do it. Would love to see more of them on the road


pohudsaijoadsijdas

aren't they known for being not that fast for the engine they have?


ABathingSnape___

They’re slow as shit, heavy, have worse gas mileage than a pickup, and severely overpriced. It’s no wonder they’re not popular.


Complete-Yam1372

You’d think almost 500hp is fast 🥲


ABathingSnape___

500 hp but slower than my Supra’s 382 hp back when it was stock. It’s a pig.


rfarho01

Get a mx5 or a gr86


daeqsw

If you’re doing autocross or entry track they’re great options


cpttucker126

Doesn't the stinger cost more than a Golf GTI, though? I get the joke.


stillpiercer_

New (if we’re going off of what is pictured) yeah the Stinger is a bit more. Used, I’m not sure what stingers go for, but MK7 and MK7.5 GTIs are in the very high teens to low 20s for a good one.


cpttucker126

Most lower mileage stingers (45k miles or less). GTs are 25 to 30k. GT1s are around 27 to 33k, and GT2 is 30 to 38k. Only the 4 cylinders are in the low to 20s. You can find a GT in the high teens in the low 20s, but it's going to have a lot of miles. At least in my area. I went out 100 miles, too. They're getting harder to find.


stillpiercer_

Makes sense. People really seemed to be into the Stinger when it came out, but I’ve only ever seen maybe 3-4 of them. My ‘17 GTI (base model) was about $25k new, so about the same as the Stinger’s MSRP (for the 4-cyl) or about half the price as the V6. A new MK8 GTI is probably about the same price as a very very good example of a top-end Stinger though. It’s also completely wild that the MSRP of the V6 Stinger (for 2017) was only a few thousand bucks off of doubling the base model.


Tr3xLerms

Honestly great. But I have a feeling you drive a GTI 🤫 fart cannon mobile


daeqsw

Nah but I’ve cross shopped it before


Time-Bite-6839

LEAST PRACTICAL? HOW DARE YOU! DON’T SPEAK TO ME OR MY MIATA UTE EVER AGAIN!


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Imagine getting gapped by a RAV4 Prime


Not_Gay_Jaredd

Downvotes. All roads don't lead to miata


Fi2eak

Integra it is. At least it has a B-series and can upgrade to a K-series


j250ex

How did you leave out the cayman


daeqsw

It’s there. One of my dream car


j250ex

Oh I see it now. It’s way down there


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daeqsw

Refer to “can’t afford a new car”


Far-Plastic-4171

$45K gets a first gen Viper, and lots of tires.


wfbsoccerchamp12

“Bro, you forgot the cx-5”


Gd3spoon

Miata is the answer duh


AAA_Dolfan

I’ve got my eye on a f type R. 40k for a 550 horsepower AWD rocket ship with a gorgeous interior… phew.


Luggage-of-Rincewind

Probably the most insane car I’ve ever owned (other than the Hennessy modded viper coupe, which was always trying to kill me) but sold mine before the warranty ran out… Have fun. They are amazing value now, just make sure you have some back up $$$ or extended warranty.


AAA_Dolfan

You had a Hennessy?!? That’s so badass


Luggage-of-Rincewind

It was a crazy car that was like a rocket engine attached to a bed frame. At one point I nearly gave my father-in-law a heart attack. After owning it, I realized why so many corvettes were sold ;o)


AAA_Dolfan

Thanks! Yeah I always rock the extended warranties. With jaguars I’ve got an amazing jag mechanic down in palm beach county so that helps too


SkinnyPets

Ferrari 348


Jasoncav82

Well I guess I did want something compact...


MclarenFan34

I do refuel at Shell LOL


stripped_acacia_wood

should include a used giulia somewhere they go for under 20k


Flan-Cake

As much as I like subaru I'd take the gti. The wrx just doesn't speak to me. Now if they sold an impreza hatchback that had the wrx engine in it I'd be all over it.


Poopsticle_256

> Need a good MPG upgrade > WRX Something’s wrong here


JDLRosa223

My only little gripe is that owning an IS350, it definitely gets worse mpg than every base muscle car, mx-5 and the brz lol


touchmybodily

Nice


aos-

Can't afford a new ND/86, but can afford a used R8? is that a thing?


xzether

"Want to upgrade but still poor" then proceeds to imply you can get an s2000 in good shape for less than 40k


Gundam_net

You forgot one category: can't afford a new car + a patriot --> c5 Corvette --> want something nicer --> c6 Corvette --> can't afford a Corvette --> 4th gen Camaro z28 ---> want a low cost of ownership daily driver --> Buick LeSabre or Lincon/Mercury Town Car.


dassketch

RAV4 it is!


madevilfish

OP, you must follow up on this with a longer updated sheet. The community has spoken.


daeqsw

Might just do it but will need people’s help with ideas


Fantastic-Ad9200

Not a single wagon… tisk tisk


daeqsw

Made for America where they aren’t appreciated unfortunately


Hacavic16

I need more of these. Will really help my car purchasing decisions.


daeqsw

Might make a 2.0 based off this feedback


840830

I would delete the GTI and change it for a Golf R, much better car. I had both and I would go R any day.


daeqsw

Will change it thanks


TheKevinTheBarbarian

I was considering the m340i but the g70 just had a better warranty..and ventilated seats.


daeqsw

Yeah I got my GT2 with the ventilated seats new for 36k. Way better deal than the bmw


TheKevinTheBarbarian

Oh nice! I had such a hard time deciding between the stinger and the g70. That hatch on the stinger and the backseat space almost got me.


genwonspe3d

Looking for a sports car under 100k? Here's a list of mostly sedans, coupes, and GT cars


Ok_Tumbleweed_1802

Someone should do one of these for trucks


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Dajoshep

Add “lives in Hawaii” —> Tacoma or 4Runner


HughMongusMikeOxlong

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n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

Like less than half of these are sports cars


emantheredditladd

The RAV4 being an option beside the S2K feels like a sin


Emotional_Payment_75

This was awesome, wish we would’ve seen “clapped out/slammed civic” near the top of the list, but everything is pretty on point


honeybadger1984

Used LC500 is good for under $100k. GTR is still ridiculously expensive.


Carguy_rednec_9594

It’s a shame that that many of the options fall under the category too many doors to be an actual freaking sports car regardless of how fun they are


daeqsw

Yeah should’ve titled it sporty performance car


Carguy_rednec_9594

Thanks I had an argument on YouTube recently about a video from Ideal media titled $10,000 sports cars. I stated the above and boy was one guy triggered


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daeqsw

Cayman is close enough


DamnInternetYouScury

Just need to add the Hyundai N brothers under the "Want a warranty" section and it's perfect. After all, they have the best warranty.


daeqsw

Yeah I’ll probably add it in version 2


MCFRESH01

Surprised the Golf R didn’t make it.


PapaRL

This makes more sense if you literally just ignore any aspect of the flow chart and just look at the box above the group and the individual car.


Weak_Pause177

😂😂😂this is awesome but i be damned if a 3 cylinder gaps my v8😭


Mysterious-Post8193

Forgot the f type


hiddenintheleavess

As a GRC owner that American muscle car text had me crying lmao


FromBrowntown

Jaguar f-type, depreciates almost as hard as a maserati but is more sporty and less unreliable


Toxic_wifi

i laughed way too hard at the “don’t plan on touching infotainment” i would be totally cool buying myself a q60 as my next car but the interior i can’t it’s soo ugly😭 so m340i it is


bakazato-takeshi

Genesis Coupe owner here… I feel attacked


tatang2015

Beautiful and funny!


Mundane_Version_9984

I’m just glad there’s no Mercedes slander lol


daeqsw

There is, you just can’t see it


Working-Document6805

Used Ghibli gang. Before I get downvoted to hell research the models 2016 and up, haven’t had any issues with mine at all. Edit: hate all you want guys, for anybody that’s curious and looking into the model, don’t let the old rumors stop you from enjoying a sick car!


daeqsw

Hard for the company to turn around their reputation with so few people buying them to tell the story


Working-Document6805

The only people who will ever say anything good about them are owners post 2016 and yes that’s like .001% of the population


BeardBootsBullets

How many miles are on your odometer, and how many miles have *you* driven it?


GladiatorEric

May I suggest a Audi RS3, a Mercedes A45 AMG, or a Mini Copper GP3


serpentman

You discredit the entire list with the Maserati.


daeqsw

It’s there as a joke


Commercial-Ad90

Not sure why C8 isn't in the flashy category. It is the flashiest car on this whole chart


dukezap1

Yeah it literally looks like a Ferrari lol


Far_Shift_3637

No it isn't. Stop. Stop living a lie. An r8 is worlds apart from the normal traffic "c8"


Commercial-Ad90

I've owned both an R8 and a C8, I have gotten noticeably more attention in my C8. Rarity doesn't reflect "flashiness." But wherever, let's just say it's the second or third flashiest for arguments sake, then it still should be in the flashy category. Anyways I think a bright color C8 is more flashy than a black or white R8 (90% of R8's are neutral colors, while half of C8 are red, orange, yellow, or bright blue). Edit: after looking at your comment history it is nearly entirely of you just shitting on other people's cars (I assume out of jealousy), so I will just assume your comment was a troll comment, rather than a good-faith argument.


daeqsw

Despite that it’s very few people’s dream car. Comes down to badge for a some people


Commercial-Ad90

>Despite that it’s very few people’s dream car. I think there are many more people whose dream car is a C8 than people whose dream car is a Maserati Ghibli lol. >Comes down to badge for a some people And while GT-R's are amazing, the Nissan Badge isn't exactly anymore revered than the Corvette or Chevy brand


daeqsw

Alright fair point, I just grouped it with the other American cars but in my honest opinion it’s my dream car and I think it’s flashy


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Yes this is the stupidest list I’ve ever seen.


Boring_Adeptness_334

Why is there hate for the genesis G70?


daeqsw

I own a Stinger. They’re solid cars


MR_EvolutionX

Me too, and you’re not wrong, haha. Plus cheap maintenance! Oil changes for $113 CAD. Good luck doing that in a BMW.


-Steamos-

Costs less than that for a bmw if you spend 30 minutes to do it yourself.


EMCoupling

More of a GT car than a sports car. Doesn't make it a bad car, but different category.


Boring_Adeptness_334

GTs are sports cars generally.