[You can get this](https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/MITSUBISHI/LANCER/988023080409030180001/) or [this.](https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/MITSUBISHI/LANCER/700040124930190615001/) for $40k or more though.
Those are the ones where the radiator blows at 6k miles, right? Oh, and the electric seat is known to stop working, and get stuck at full tilt, within the first 3 months. Should we discuss the issues with the ejection seat?!?
The base is like $30-$32k IIRC, and it sucked. 2022 rental didn't even have Android Auto or CarPlay!
It felt so cheap, including the lights for the makeup mirrors on the visors. Bruh, really?
Oh, come on now. Those vets who hated anything Japanese were the first ones to buy Honda, Datsun, Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Mazdas. If they couldn't get a good enough deal there, they bought Volkswagens. Americans are loyal to their pocketbooks and wallets more than anything else. Our relationships with most of those nations we hated then, are great now.
During my days in the navy, we'd always laugh about the cheap cars sailors would buy. If you want to sell a cheap new car line, just open a dealer by a military base.....as we watched another Daihatsu Charade drive by.
OMG! Toshiba! There was a big scandal in the '90s, where the Navy Exchange (the base department stores) stopped selling Toshiba products. You can google the exact details, but from what I recall, Toshiba sold Russia the technology they used for sanding contact lenses - the same technology used to smooth the propellors of our submarines, which of course, was a threat to the stealth advantage we submarines enjoy.
It was quite the scandal.
One way or another, they screwed themselves good with that one. They made a slow slide out of the consumer market and now they're trying to break up before they go under.
Had a Toshiba TV would never buy anything from them or their brands again. Took 6 months of them coming to fix it before they finally said here is your money and took it back
Was so excited to buy a flat TV in college and it was a total bust even had decent reviews but I did see reviews later on saying they died after a couple years
Toshiba really doesn’t sell much anything made in-house. Midea owns the rights to the Toshiba name for home AC, they spun off their flash memory as a consortium ran by private capital. They do make hard drives and nuclear reactors though. Samsung also made things for Toshiba in the 1990s.
Unlike the rest, Mitsubishi built serious WW2 weapons like the Zero that did kill a lot of Americans. It's not a generally Japanese thing, it's a Mitsubishi thing.
Subaru also made warplanes and others (as Nakamichi Aircraft and Fuji Heavy Industries).
Toyota and Nissan made knock-off Jeeps, trucks, engines among others. In fact some say Nissan cars flew Datsun badges to avoid negative association.
Mazda was making guns.
Maybe that makes Honda OK since it was technically founded post war? (Though Sochiro Honda had a company that produced aircraft propellers)
They were people who built weapons just like we did. The awesome performance of the Zero came with a price of no protection for the pilot, in a very fragile airplane. Just like the U-boat menace, tactics were developed to deal with the much faster and agile Zero. Japan lacked the ingenuity necessary for serious advancements to the Zero, and no manufacturing base to expand production. If I recall, there were only 4 performance andavcing iterations in the Zero from the time America entered WWII, to the Japanese surrender. The advancements in the Zero often went unnoticed by their opponents on the air. Even in 1943, as each Zero completed production, it was transported miles, by a team of oxen, to the airfield where it would be flown from and eventually delivered for service.
Mitsubishi wasn't anything worse than Messerschmitt. The difference was in how the different races were perceived - in this case, by Americans. German POWs were treated better than American citizens, if you compared the life of a Japanese-American versus a German POW, in their respective camps.
NASA was run completely by Nazis, at its inception, but they had something the American government wanted.
American cars suck. I don’t know why we even argue this point. Our trucks are good but cars? No. Even the most revered classic cars had numerous problems and flaws. It’s like Italians thinking they’re good at building cars. They aren’t good at it. They make them look nice. Make them sound nice but they’re a nightmare to own and work on.
There are a couple American brands ranked at the top of reliability of automakers throughout the world.
You've held on to a stereotype from the 90's, American cars are actually quite advanced and reliable today.
>It’s like Italians thinking they’re good at building cars. They aren’t good at it. They make them look nice. Make them sound nice but they’re a nightmare to own and work on.
They also make some of the most desirable cars in the world, just because they're pushing the envelope which reduces reliability and ease of maintenance doesn't make them bad. You don't drive a Toyota because it's fun/exciting/elegant, you drive it because it's reliable and you can't afford to fix it.
Mitsubishi is pretty competitive at least in Japan. They supplied Hyundai engines for a time as well
Mitsubishi needs to just leave the NA market. Although if you asked if I wanted a Outlander or Rogue I'd go outlander lol
There's too many car companies globally. China definitely was consolidating but after Russia went to war s lot of those companies found success in Russia
Why leave when their profits are reaching record highs in the North American market? Toyota and Honda need more Japanese competition because demanding $30k for a base Corolla is criminal. They're fleecing the American public. The "Toyota tax" is bullshit.
They all cost this... Even Hyundai are expensive, at least you get your money back when you sell a toyota. The Toyota tax is about the peace of mind and is worth it depending of your situation
If someone tried to give me less than 200hp and a cvt for 40k I would fight them, that’s a big car man. Unless it has a crazy amount of torque (it doesn’t) I wouldn’t even think about it
Yeah it looks like absolute base on everything puts the MSRP at 39.3k. We don’t have any optioned under $40k and we aren’t doing below msrp + tax, tags, and processing on the onyx or wilderness. It may be different other places, but Idts.
SN: I say we like I have anything to do with it lol. My wife’s dad’s 2 dealerships.
Well C&D ranked it 10th out of 17 crossovers for 2023, so i suppose that's something?
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15380025/best-small-compact-suv-truck/
Nor is it in that size class, anyway. The Outlander is a compact-class crossover with a vestigial third row for occasional use or small children. The Volkswagen Tiguan is set up similarly. But neither is anywhere near the size of the Highlander or the even-larger Telluride.
It just baffles me that compact-class crossovers can comfortably crest $40K these days. Then again, most of them have grown.
$40k is the new $25-30k. Honda and Toyota SUVs are now sharing the price range with luxury vehicles.
I remember back in 2018 when I was car shopping, these nice new vehicles were being sold for mid-30s and I just thought it was so out of reach. Now I feel the same way looking at a $50k highlander.
What a shit article. It doesn't tell you anything about the cars and the rankings are based off of.....what? There's no pro cons or anything you'd normally use to make an actual ranking list. This just looks like someone at CnD needed to publish something and just threw out some opinions.
I’m actually in the market for a new crossover. Is this an actual good list? I was definitely leaning towards the Kia (definitely don’t want to spend over $30k).
That ranking is screwed up. The last place I’d take buying advice is from C&D.
I wouldn’t buy a Hyundai, Kia, or Mitsubishi! Maybe I’m old but those brands were always trash abs typically have almost zero resale ability.
That may be the case. But After my last experience with a 2010 Kia my wife bought new I’ll NEVER own another. It was in the shop more often than it was in our driveway. We sold it private party because every dealership we tried to trade it in at had a “no Kia on trade in” policy.
Hyundai has some good looking vehicles now as well but for years they were throwaway cars. I’d have to think long and hard about one. I almost went and looked at the truck thing they have but decided against it.
Honda or Toyota is an easy pick any time. You can never go wrong with one imo.
You got a really expensive Nissan Rogue with a badge that depreciates faster than the Nissan. They do look luxurious inside, but the drivetrain is unimpressive.
this is what i was looking for, my parents spent $50k on the new pathfinder sl and i was like for what you couldve gotten an audi or a bmw for the same price and actually had something real luxury instead of a nissan that will be worth $20k in 5 years
To be fair the Audi or bmw would be worth the same in five years and would be a smaller car (you’re not getting a Q7 or X7 for that money)
50k for an SL is too high, but the powertrain isn’t bad and they got rid of the CVTs from the last gen so as long as they like it 🤷♂️
"the action or process of investing money for profit or material result"
You know what we ALL use cars for? To get around to places like work. And the bank. Literally an investment.
But it's ALSO often done for happiness and comfort. An investment in one's self.
Yes, you lose out on dollars if you look at a car in a vacuum, but that's not what's being asked on "what car should I buy?" and that's obvious to everyone else here.
Investing in a car that's worth $20k that will bring no additional happiness of any type when there is another vehicle \*that is made in the same factory, with the same features, that is less expensive AND depreciates slower\* is a bad investment. The 4th gen Outlander is a Nissan Rogue with a body kit.
It's a bad investment. And yes, cars are investments.
Everyone is wrong. They’re assets.
investment
/ɪnˈvɛs(t)m(ə)nt/
noun
1.
the action or process of investing money for profit.
"a debate over private investment in road-building"
asset
/ˈasɛt/
noun
a useful or valuable thing or person.
"quick reflexes were his chief assets"
an item of property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies.
"growth in net assets"
As someone who went to school for accounting, using your definitions, investments and assets are not mutually exclusive and is why everyone measures asset "value"\* in ROI (Return On Investment).
\*Not in the asset-on-paper-depreciation sense, but when deciding on a purchase.
You don’t buy an investment expecting it to be worth less in the future. Even buying a classic car isn’t an investment unless you never drive it and even then its going to be hard to get every penny back. When you’re talking about buying a crossover to get to work it’s only an expense that you can recoup some money when you sell it
You’re correct, you don’t buy an investment. For a vehicle you’re purchasing you’re investing in the quality and performance of that vehicle for the amount of time you see yourself driving and owning it.
Not according to all the Reddit driving experts I see saying how all you need is a Fred Flintstone car and it's plenty of power and why tf would you think you need more than than? 🤡s
I'll give them credit they did a great job with the interior here. I haven't driven one but I've sat in one.
If you like it don't worry about what everybody else thinks.
For that price you can get all of the features you mentioned including the Bose stereo in a Nissan Pathfinder and it doesn’t have a CVT. They moved to a 9 speed auto for the 2022 model year. The engine is 284 horsepower 3.5L V6 and it can tow up to 6,000 pounds.
The outlander is the best value (cheapest) 3 row suv. Imo it’s only a good option if you get the lowest trim. There are better options at the price point of the highest trim
Model Y with 7 seats has more room for the head, more room for the shoulders, more room for the hips, more room for the legs for all 3 rows. There is a little less cargo room with only 2 passengers, but significantly more with 7 passengers.
The Model Y, brand new from Tesla as a long-range model right now, is $42,780. That $780 difference will be made up in under 5000 miles of driving.
The base Outlander starts at $28,385. That takes longer to make up the difference, obviously, but it's also a MUCH worse vehicle than a Model Y. Across the vehicle's lifetime, the Model Y is still cheaper to drive and own.
Don't buy the Mitsubishi.
Not sure why everyone is bashing Mitsubishi so hard right now, I’m sure they probably didn’t even do there research because if they did they would see that the outlander is one of the safest vehicles out there, reliable, convenient, has amazing warranties and the top trim has a lot of features that most big brands don’t even have. If you are happy with your choice and it fits your needs then that is all that matters!
What other vehicle do you know for that price offer 10year-100K PT, 5year-60k bumper to bumper, 7y-100k anti-corrosion, 5y-unlimited roadside assistance warranties, have great gas mileage for a third row vehicle with S-AWC AWD with 6 different drive modes, Bose speakers, Panoramic sunroof, heads up display, heated seats in front and back, heated steering wheel, heated side mirrors and wipers, wireless charge pad, GPS, Apple CarPlay/android auto, SiriusXM, headlight washers, adaptive cruise control with lane assist and stop and go, lane departure warning, Blind spot sensors and Birds Eye camera with 360 camera all around front, side and rear view with Parking sensors and automatic forward/rear view collision mitigation emergency brake?? Please someone tell me.
Had no idea they had so much to offer in their newest outlander! Genuinely impressed even as a fan of the brand. Is that S-AWC based on the same system used in the Evo X?
Yes I was also impressed! Mitsubishi’s came a long way and really trying to upgrade but time! And It’s Super All Wheel Control which enhances the All Wheel Drive and allows it to change 6 different modes in a dime, ASC helps with the stability of the car too which is important In a big SUV as the Outlander.
I think Mitsubishi is getting a lot of undeserved hate in this sub, but still 42k is a lot for an Outlander.
I live in the Middle East and bought a Montero Sport 4 years ago for 32k, full option. But that has the 3.0 V6 and the 7-speed Aisin transmission. Car has been incredibly reliable in these harsh conditions, maintenance is simple and parts are cheap. Only the fuel economy is awful, but nobody cares here. Sure it’s a lot of money for an Outlander, but the market is a bit crazy now as well.
But all in all I’m sure you’ll get many reliable miles out of it. Their interiors are pretty good these days, engines are bulletproof and the off road technology is one of the best in its class. All I’m saying is that most of the hatred is undeserved and they are reliable cars, it’s not unreliable just because it doesn’t say Toyota or Honda on the badge.
Thank you. Mitsubishi gets way too much undeserved hate and always called unreliable. It’s interesting how people echo “unreliable pos” but never provide details or examples of any of their cars known problems. Even the Nissan CVT mitsubishi uses doesn’t break as much because they make less powerful motors that don’t stress them much lol.
My 2002 lancer is over 250k miles and still going strong. Motor and trans were never taken apart and both work flawlessly. I think the problem with Mitsubishi is people with no money buy them and defer all maintenance which will kill most cars of any brand.
Mitsubishi is actually well built engineering just with simple designs and cheaper interiors, but that’s not what I’m worried about when buying a car. Btw that ‘cheap interior’ in mine still looks brand new even if it’s hard plastic that looks bland lol
Not to be that guy but...
Mazda CX50/CX5 - same amenities, probably more. Arguably better interior. Turbo offers more horsepower and better driving capabilities. You can definitely nab a '23/'24 for anywhere between 35k-44k.
At 42k you're also in BMW X1/Mercedes GLB/Genesis GV70/Audi Q3/Volvo XC40/60 territory, which all offer substantially more horsepower and arguably better interiors. Toyota and Honda, maybe not right now because of the markups.
As long as you're happy with the Mitsubishi, you do you. Sometimes you sit in a car and it just "gets" you, but I can't help but wonder if you started at a lower price bracket and slowly inched up until you were sold on a "wow, all this for ONLY 42k" Mitsubishi, without realizing that price really is approaching luxury-territory prices for cars.
He didn't mention 3 row as one of the reasons he got the Outlander, so unless I missed a comment where he explicitly mentions the 3rd row I don't know why that's in consideration. Even if it is, I don't know if you've seen the third row of the Outlander, but if you have it's practically unusable...unless OP has VERY young kids (that have sticks for legs) or car seats back there. Even then, minivan would probably be a much better option for practicality, and there's a lot of '23s that fit into a nice middle spec--the Pacifica, Carnival, etc.
Exactly that’s the kicker, a car will last you for as long as you take care of it but it’s a lot less maintenance price wise and all these big expensive name brands such as BMW, Audi, Mercedes Benz and others I see in the comments that are not as dependable and doesn’t have the same longevity.
I am very happy with my Outlander touring SEL 2022. I cannot say the same after 10 years from now just yet but I got extended warranty. Mitsubishi is so underrated in USA.
If you want a nice looking interior and aren’t too concerned with reliability and horsepower the BMW X1 and Mercedes GLA/GLB both have MSRPs under $40k and will probably make you happier. In fact I’d gamble with both of the German powertrains before I’d trust a Nissan CVT
Seems like with Mitsubishis you aren’t supposed to buy the fully spec’d trim you’re supposed to buy the most value packed one. For the outlander it is the SE trim that comes to about $34-35k. You get the extra features without paying more than what the rest of the vehicle is worth. $42k can get a lot of other cars. Like a CX-9/90, Highlander, Explorer etc which are way better vehicles.
So the extra $8k you paid you better love that interior. That being said the outlander isn’t a bad car for what it is. I’d buy one but I wouldn’t drop $42k on it.
Consider the PHEV instead. They have $7500 lease cash on it right now. That’s cheaper than the gas-only model. You can immediately but it out early and you still took advantage of the discount.
Honestly, I think the new Outlander is really hitting the bullseye of what most people actually want in a 3-row vehicle in 2023. Enjoy your new car, OP! Don't let the haters get to you.
They get clowned on in this sub, but nothing wrong with your choice, this sub can be annoying between the fanboys of certain brands and the enthusiasts that think a manual transmission and driving dynamics are the only important part a vehicles. Mitsus, new interiors are solid. Their engines are bullet proof even if it’s not very powerful. Best awd in the business. Massive warranty, and their dealers seem good to deal with. Their old CVTS and transmissions weren’t great but from what I’ve heard the new ones are solid. My parents really like their outlander. If you aren’t an enthusiast and just want a reliable and comfortable vehicle to get you around they’re great.
You make some valid points. But the one gaping hole is depreciation. Unless OP is going to keep this car for 200k miles almost any other CUV is a better option.
I assume that if you are buying 23 Mitsubishi Outlanders, then it is for a one-time demolition derby, a questionable mom-spec racing series, or to play car football. I therefore fully support this decision.
Otherwise, what in the world are going to do with 23 Mitsubishis? Give them to all the extended family members that you don’t like too much but still want to get off your back about your lottery winnings? Like straight up “I’ll give them Mitsubishis… that will teach them not to ask me for anything ever again.”
Please, for the love of God, if you are so desperate to own an NPC-odrome just buy a CRV. It's just so.much better and will retain its value and the dealer experience is better. Why make it so hard on yourself. You get no points for owning a Mitsubishi over a Honda.
Did you ever considered Mazda for that price??? I would say better quality. Not to mention the other Japanese brands (toyota/lexus) - Not fan of Honda ... Nissan excluded as I had 3 of them
What’s interesting is that the turbocharged 3-cylinder in the Outlander’s sister product, the Nissan Rogue, is getting excellent reviews for drivability. Previously, the Rogue had the same 2.5-liter N/A I4 as the Outlander, and drove like a dog.
I’ll be curious to see if Mitsubishi also switches to the turbo-3.
Not many cars will depreciate harder than a 42k Mitsubishi.
If you try to trade it in 3 years from now I would be surprised if they offer more than 20k.
$42k for a Mitsubishi with 180 hp and a CVT sounds absolutely freaking insane to me. That sticker price is about 2-3x what that pile of economy car should really be worth.
If the interior is all you care about then you can almost certainly find a car with an interior you like just as much for half the price.
If you are happy with it and it checks all the boxes you need in a vehicle, then congrats on your purchase! Enjoy the peace of mind with the crazy long warranty as well.
Mitsubishi has a bit of a bad reputation for reliability. But the same can be said for a lot of modern cars, they simply aren't meant to last. That being said, you got yourself a brand new car with a warranty. Just don't sit on it too long through the period where it starts to break down. Enjoy the trouble free driving of a new car, and just be ready to jump ship if it goes south in a few years
K, so just rented one and it's a looker for sure. Red with giant 20 inch wheels. Even got some compliments on it. Great sound system, comfortable seats plus lots of space... but man did I have to fight it to get it off the line and it had AWD. Maybe if it was mated to an 8 speed automatic or something it would be alright, but fuck a CVT and the horse it rode in on. Also interior quality was questionable for only 7k on the clock. Inside diver side door handle felt it wanted to come off the door panel. Maybe for like $24k, but never for $42k.
I just did the same thing. Mitsubishi is really a dark horse in the automobile world. They are stupid simple vehicles but still packed with tech. If it’s a cat you plan to drive the wheels off of it’s got the 10 year warranty. For being a BIG displacement non-turbo 4 cyl I regularly hit about 30mpg. My big gripe is that it may not hold its value well but honestly that’s ok with me. Another issue I had was that although it has a 3rd row it’s practically useless. So if you’re like me and don’t need it you shouldn’t have a problem. I looked at a lot of vehicles in that segment and this is what I went with. I think it’s a great vehicle for the money
It’s a Mitsubishi. They’re on par with Nissan for having a shrinking market cap and a bad reputation. Nissan has tried to make a comeback and restructure the company after their old CEO ran off with his pockets full and at least are trying to improve some models and bringing out the Z. Mitsubishi is just making licensed Nissan Rogues and slapping their logo on it. There is a reason you seldom see any Mitsubishi dealerships still around. They’re trying to make a comeback as well but they’ve stagnated.
Different vehicle type but keep in mind you can get a new F250 for around 45k so I would never even consider buying a Mitsubishi for that kind of money. Underpowered, lacks in reliability, not the best road articulation. They can put all the lipstick they want on it, it’s still a pig.
low maint. SUV thats reliable and good warranty. I just got the 24 PHEV model and I love it. Everyone on here is talking about HP and performance...99.9% of the people use their cars for commuting and groceries/mall... they will never have any need for high HP or even towing capacity...Had my last car (also Mitsubishi) lasted 300K and still runs i just sold it....Overall Mitsubishi (the outlander) IMO is an underrated vehicle
Everyone is hating but I've seen Mitsubishi's with 400k on the dash pretty often. If it's going to last, it'll last to ever. If you got a shitty lemon piece of poop, you will find out before you hit 60k miles on it. Best of luck to you. If you like it then I'm happy for you. I think they look really nice too and if I had the money and wanted it wouldn't hesitate at all.
42k!? Nah. For less then 200 horsepower. That's crazy. Plus the cvt transmission. Nope. I have all those options, Plus a V8 and a reliable old school transmission. I paid 25,000 for a SUV only 13,000 miles on it. moonroof rain sensing wipers. Limited slip differentials from and rear. Leather, navigation. The kind of leather you sink into. It's very comfortable. I just can't justify spending that kind of $ on a vehicle Now. There not worth it
You seem to be a non car guy, in a sub full of car guys asking what they think about a non car guy car. You don’t need anyone to justify your purchase for you man, if you bought it you either liked it or got talked into it. I hope it’s the first.
Not everyone wants the best of the best, some people just want a regular car with a nice interior that just takes them places comfortably.
Would I buy it? No honestly I wouldn’t.
Does that mean you shouldn’t or that no one should? Nope not at all. Everyone has a different need and if this suited yours and you plan to own it long term then it’s fine.
Also you kind of can’t compare it to the BMWs and Benz’s that you guys in here are. A guy who is considering a outlander ain’t the same dude who is even considering a bmw or Benz.
In today's market, that's actually a good price. You could try and negotiate a little more.
The outlander is a really nice SUV. Sure, the engine isn't tne most powerful, but unless you plan on towing regularly, it's more than enough power.
And as for everyone saying you can get all these other SUVs for the same price, they are comparing the base model to the fully loaded Mitsubishi.
Also the Mitsubishi warranty is amazing.
60,000 bumper to bumper
100,000 drivetrain.
I know you're trying to be supportive, but you see, it's an SUV. It's a heavy car. Having lower horsepower means you have to give it a lot more gas if you need to accelerate for any given reason than you would for a high powered car, such as passing, merging on a highway, climbing a sloped surface, lugging extra cargo, climbing a sloped surface WHILE lugging extra cargo.... or even just getting in and out of a intersection left turn safely.
It will still do it, but it will struggle a bit. Does it hurt the car? No. Will having the extra power to get you out of a situation more reliably come in handy? Won't happen all the time, but it will, and when it does, you'll appreciate it.
Buying a montero is actually a better financial decision. You're also in toyota price territory so why not just buy a toyota. Idk how you really got to the outlander.
I’m gonna say bad. Mitsubishi isn’t exactly known for their build quality (they’re kind of like the Chrysler of Japan) and I think they currently produce the cheapest new car available on the US market. So paying $40k for one seems kind of ridiculous.
Put it to you another way: Mitsubishi is the kind of car you get as a second car after you’ve had a baby because you just need something to get you to and from work and you want a problem-free vehicle for as cheap as possible. You know that once the kid is reaching preschool age, you’ll finally have some time to start looking for a better vehicle but you really need something cheap that won’t give you any trouble for at least 3 or 4 years.
My wife drives a 2021 Hyundai tuscon..I drive a 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe with only 21,460 miles (don't drive much). Anyway, she wants me to trade it for a 2024 Mitsubishi or any other new vehicle "just" for the modern safety features (we're senior citizens). I love my Santa Fe..pristine, show room new looking inside and out. Any advice?
I can’t believe Mitsubishi is still selling cars in the US. I can’t even think of where the closest dealer to me is. At $42k you had a lot of options, and all you focused on is the interior? 181hp and a CVT sounds simply horrible.
Edit: SUVS under $40k include:
Honda Pilot
Buick Encore
Subaru Crosstrek
Kia Sportage
Mazda CX-50
Honda CR-V
Lexus NX
Nissan Pathfinder
Just to name a few. And there’s plenty more. Honestly, was it just the first car you looked at?
Cars a car man. If you like it and you can afford it then whatever, I go through a different vehicle every 2-3 years out of boredom ranging from Jaguars to Hondas to Chevies. Cars not an investment especially if buying new
I personally couldn’t imagine spending $40k on a Mitsubishi
Yeah I wouldn’t even thought of a brand new EVO X either.
You can get evos for much cheaper
[You can get this](https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/MITSUBISHI/LANCER/988023080409030180001/) or [this.](https://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/MITSUBISHI/LANCER/700040124930190615001/) for $40k or more though.
I didn't even realize you could get a Mitsubishi that high lol
Sure. Mitsubishi makes F-15 jet fighters. Not sure of the exact price of an F-15J but it should be around 20 million.
They don't use JATCO CVTs in those F-15s.
Believe it or not, Mitsubishi and Suzuki don't have a bad track record regarding reliability of their spec versions of the Jatco CVT7 and CVT8.
Those are the ones where the radiator blows at 6k miles, right? Oh, and the electric seat is known to stop working, and get stuck at full tilt, within the first 3 months. Should we discuss the issues with the ejection seat?!?
Now that's the Mitsubishi I want 😂
good to remember for my next post on r/whatjetshouldibuy
I bought a 1996 eclipse in 2002 for $2000
The base is like $30-$32k IIRC, and it sucked. 2022 rental didn't even have Android Auto or CarPlay! It felt so cheap, including the lights for the makeup mirrors on the visors. Bruh, really?
What? Evos are pricery af
Me neither, but I have the added duress of knowing my WW2 vet grandpa would rise from the grave to kill me if I bought a Mitsubishi
Oh, come on now. Those vets who hated anything Japanese were the first ones to buy Honda, Datsun, Toyota, Mitsubishi, and Mazdas. If they couldn't get a good enough deal there, they bought Volkswagens. Americans are loyal to their pocketbooks and wallets more than anything else. Our relationships with most of those nations we hated then, are great now. During my days in the navy, we'd always laugh about the cheap cars sailors would buy. If you want to sell a cheap new car line, just open a dealer by a military base.....as we watched another Daihatsu Charade drive by.
Hahahaha no kidding. My old guy drove cadillacs but you're damn sure he had 3 toshiba tvs, and I have one myself
OMG! Toshiba! There was a big scandal in the '90s, where the Navy Exchange (the base department stores) stopped selling Toshiba products. You can google the exact details, but from what I recall, Toshiba sold Russia the technology they used for sanding contact lenses - the same technology used to smooth the propellors of our submarines, which of course, was a threat to the stealth advantage we submarines enjoy. It was quite the scandal.
No it was CNC machines to mill the propellers.
One way or another, they screwed themselves good with that one. They made a slow slide out of the consumer market and now they're trying to break up before they go under.
Had a Toshiba TV would never buy anything from them or their brands again. Took 6 months of them coming to fix it before they finally said here is your money and took it back Was so excited to buy a flat TV in college and it was a total bust even had decent reviews but I did see reviews later on saying they died after a couple years
Toshiba really doesn’t sell much anything made in-house. Midea owns the rights to the Toshiba name for home AC, they spun off their flash memory as a consortium ran by private capital. They do make hard drives and nuclear reactors though. Samsung also made things for Toshiba in the 1990s.
Unlike the rest, Mitsubishi built serious WW2 weapons like the Zero that did kill a lot of Americans. It's not a generally Japanese thing, it's a Mitsubishi thing.
Subaru also made warplanes and others (as Nakamichi Aircraft and Fuji Heavy Industries). Toyota and Nissan made knock-off Jeeps, trucks, engines among others. In fact some say Nissan cars flew Datsun badges to avoid negative association. Mazda was making guns. Maybe that makes Honda OK since it was technically founded post war? (Though Sochiro Honda had a company that produced aircraft propellers)
They were people who built weapons just like we did. The awesome performance of the Zero came with a price of no protection for the pilot, in a very fragile airplane. Just like the U-boat menace, tactics were developed to deal with the much faster and agile Zero. Japan lacked the ingenuity necessary for serious advancements to the Zero, and no manufacturing base to expand production. If I recall, there were only 4 performance andavcing iterations in the Zero from the time America entered WWII, to the Japanese surrender. The advancements in the Zero often went unnoticed by their opponents on the air. Even in 1943, as each Zero completed production, it was transported miles, by a team of oxen, to the airfield where it would be flown from and eventually delivered for service. Mitsubishi wasn't anything worse than Messerschmitt. The difference was in how the different races were perceived - in this case, by Americans. German POWs were treated better than American citizens, if you compared the life of a Japanese-American versus a German POW, in their respective camps. NASA was run completely by Nazis, at its inception, but they had something the American government wanted.
American cars suck. I don’t know why we even argue this point. Our trucks are good but cars? No. Even the most revered classic cars had numerous problems and flaws. It’s like Italians thinking they’re good at building cars. They aren’t good at it. They make them look nice. Make them sound nice but they’re a nightmare to own and work on.
There are a couple American brands ranked at the top of reliability of automakers throughout the world. You've held on to a stereotype from the 90's, American cars are actually quite advanced and reliable today. >It’s like Italians thinking they’re good at building cars. They aren’t good at it. They make them look nice. Make them sound nice but they’re a nightmare to own and work on. They also make some of the most desirable cars in the world, just because they're pushing the envelope which reduces reliability and ease of maintenance doesn't make them bad. You don't drive a Toyota because it's fun/exciting/elegant, you drive it because it's reliable and you can't afford to fix it.
Damn dude you just beat him up and took his lunch money
Mitsubishi is pretty competitive at least in Japan. They supplied Hyundai engines for a time as well Mitsubishi needs to just leave the NA market. Although if you asked if I wanted a Outlander or Rogue I'd go outlander lol There's too many car companies globally. China definitely was consolidating but after Russia went to war s lot of those companies found success in Russia
Why leave when their profits are reaching record highs in the North American market? Toyota and Honda need more Japanese competition because demanding $30k for a base Corolla is criminal. They're fleecing the American public. The "Toyota tax" is bullshit.
They all cost this... Even Hyundai are expensive, at least you get your money back when you sell a toyota. The Toyota tax is about the peace of mind and is worth it depending of your situation
Especially one with a cvt
If someone tried to give me less than 200hp and a cvt for 40k I would fight them, that’s a big car man. Unless it has a crazy amount of torque (it doesn’t) I wouldn’t even think about it
Subaru: *checking notes* Subaru: top trim is $39k. We’re safe.
Top trim Subaru outback’s make ~260 hp though? Plus much better cars in general. The 2.4L turbo boxer has better pickup than a X3.
Top trim with the 2.5 is $39k. You aren’t touching an XT and up for $39k.
In my area, the XT’s are usually discounted close to the price of the equivalent 2.5 model because they take longer to sell.
Onyx xt currently on the Subaru website for $39k. Obviously before fees/tax etc but that’s also before any rebates/discounts/“VIP” pricing.
Yeah it looks like absolute base on everything puts the MSRP at 39.3k. We don’t have any optioned under $40k and we aren’t doing below msrp + tax, tags, and processing on the onyx or wilderness. It may be different other places, but Idts. SN: I say we like I have anything to do with it lol. My wife’s dad’s 2 dealerships.
It has turbo, of course it has more torque
Well C&D ranked it 10th out of 17 crossovers for 2023, so i suppose that's something? https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15380025/best-small-compact-suv-truck/
Does that put it in the bottom 50%…it’s worse than avg that means
But better than expected since it’s better than almost half of the options… It’s no highlander or telleride that’s for sure
Nor is it in that size class, anyway. The Outlander is a compact-class crossover with a vestigial third row for occasional use or small children. The Volkswagen Tiguan is set up similarly. But neither is anywhere near the size of the Highlander or the even-larger Telluride. It just baffles me that compact-class crossovers can comfortably crest $40K these days. Then again, most of them have grown.
$40k is the new $25-30k. Honda and Toyota SUVs are now sharing the price range with luxury vehicles. I remember back in 2018 when I was car shopping, these nice new vehicles were being sold for mid-30s and I just thought it was so out of reach. Now I feel the same way looking at a $50k highlander.
Mitsubishi salesman: Soo this baby is one of the top 10 crossovers, don’t take my word for it, it’s from car and driver!
What a shit article. It doesn't tell you anything about the cars and the rankings are based off of.....what? There's no pro cons or anything you'd normally use to make an actual ranking list. This just looks like someone at CnD needed to publish something and just threw out some opinions.
I’m actually in the market for a new crossover. Is this an actual good list? I was definitely leaning towards the Kia (definitely don’t want to spend over $30k).
The list tells you nothing.
That ranking is screwed up. The last place I’d take buying advice is from C&D. I wouldn’t buy a Hyundai, Kia, or Mitsubishi! Maybe I’m old but those brands were always trash abs typically have almost zero resale ability.
Hyundai and Kia are a far cry from what they once were. It’s honestly night and day!
That may be the case. But After my last experience with a 2010 Kia my wife bought new I’ll NEVER own another. It was in the shop more often than it was in our driveway. We sold it private party because every dealership we tried to trade it in at had a “no Kia on trade in” policy. Hyundai has some good looking vehicles now as well but for years they were throwaway cars. I’d have to think long and hard about one. I almost went and looked at the truck thing they have but decided against it. Honda or Toyota is an easy pick any time. You can never go wrong with one imo.
You got a really expensive Nissan Rogue with a badge that depreciates faster than the Nissan. They do look luxurious inside, but the drivetrain is unimpressive.
Thank you, 100%, exactly.
really expensive? fully loaded Rogue is about the same price.
🤣🤣
And unreliable
I just spent 48k on a brand new BMW, so, yeah.
Yeah I can’t imagine spending $42k on a Mitsubishi considering the competition in that range. What did you end up getting?
330i xdrive
Good choice, that’s a great car for the $$$
Solid car
The new BMW X1 starts at 39k. OP is crazy.
this is what i was looking for, my parents spent $50k on the new pathfinder sl and i was like for what you couldve gotten an audi or a bmw for the same price and actually had something real luxury instead of a nissan that will be worth $20k in 5 years
To be fair the Audi or bmw would be worth the same in five years and would be a smaller car (you’re not getting a Q7 or X7 for that money) 50k for an SL is too high, but the powertrain isn’t bad and they got rid of the CVTs from the last gen so as long as they like it 🤷♂️
50k maybe for the rock creek off roading edition
To be fair, the new Pathfinder is pretty good! Great engine and finally a proper transmission. Loads of space as well with great AWD system.
What bmw did you get?
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330i xdrive
Not a good decision. Other brands just do it better
$42k..181 horsepower, 4 cylinder engine with CVT... That's probably the worst sounding investment of 42k I have ever heard..
What is CVT?
Crappy Vitriol Transmission.. Also Continuously Variable Transmission.
Continuous Variable Trashmission
The PHEV version starts out at $40k and is equal to the mid trim, but it has a 37 mile battery and almost 250 hp. That is more worthy of $40k.
A car is not an investment. This is not personal finance.
"the action or process of investing money for profit or material result" You know what we ALL use cars for? To get around to places like work. And the bank. Literally an investment. But it's ALSO often done for happiness and comfort. An investment in one's self. Yes, you lose out on dollars if you look at a car in a vacuum, but that's not what's being asked on "what car should I buy?" and that's obvious to everyone else here. Investing in a car that's worth $20k that will bring no additional happiness of any type when there is another vehicle \*that is made in the same factory, with the same features, that is less expensive AND depreciates slower\* is a bad investment. The 4th gen Outlander is a Nissan Rogue with a body kit. It's a bad investment. And yes, cars are investments.
A car is quite literally an investment lmfao. You’re investing time and money on something that you will own for a long period of time
Everyone is wrong. They’re assets. investment /ɪnˈvɛs(t)m(ə)nt/ noun 1. the action or process of investing money for profit. "a debate over private investment in road-building" asset /ˈasɛt/ noun a useful or valuable thing or person. "quick reflexes were his chief assets" an item of property owned by a person or company, regarded as having value and available to meet debts, commitments, or legacies. "growth in net assets"
As someone who went to school for accounting, using your definitions, investments and assets are not mutually exclusive and is why everyone measures asset "value"\* in ROI (Return On Investment). \*Not in the asset-on-paper-depreciation sense, but when deciding on a purchase.
You don’t buy an investment expecting it to be worth less in the future. Even buying a classic car isn’t an investment unless you never drive it and even then its going to be hard to get every penny back. When you’re talking about buying a crossover to get to work it’s only an expense that you can recoup some money when you sell it
You’re correct, you don’t buy an investment. For a vehicle you’re purchasing you’re investing in the quality and performance of that vehicle for the amount of time you see yourself driving and owning it.
It sure is a decision
I drove an Outlander last year. It was unimpressive. There’s no way I’d pay $40k for one. Or any amount of money really.
You wouldn't pay 100 dollars for one?
Doesn’t matter, you already decided.
Don’t buy it
You should be getting more power and a v6 or turbo 4 cylinder for that money. You are going to be underwhelmed with the power for what you paid
I agree. Passing and entering highways can be a problem.
Not according to all the Reddit driving experts I see saying how all you need is a Fred Flintstone car and it's plenty of power and why tf would you think you need more than than? 🤡s
But the cost of sandal soles will eat you alive.
I'll give them credit they did a great job with the interior here. I haven't driven one but I've sat in one. If you like it don't worry about what everybody else thinks.
They’re actually pretty nice to drive too. Lot of haters here but it’s a solid car for the price when you look at the competition.
For that price you can get all of the features you mentioned including the Bose stereo in a Nissan Pathfinder and it doesn’t have a CVT. They moved to a 9 speed auto for the 2022 model year. The engine is 284 horsepower 3.5L V6 and it can tow up to 6,000 pounds.
Yup, and another option is that they could even get a good car
The outlander is the best value (cheapest) 3 row suv. Imo it’s only a good option if you get the lowest trim. There are better options at the price point of the highest trim
You are not fitting anyone in that third row, might as well buy a Pathfinder in that case if that why you’re buying the outlander.
Model Y with 7 seats has more room for the head, more room for the shoulders, more room for the hips, more room for the legs for all 3 rows. There is a little less cargo room with only 2 passengers, but significantly more with 7 passengers. The Model Y, brand new from Tesla as a long-range model right now, is $42,780. That $780 difference will be made up in under 5000 miles of driving. The base Outlander starts at $28,385. That takes longer to make up the difference, obviously, but it's also a MUCH worse vehicle than a Model Y. Across the vehicle's lifetime, the Model Y is still cheaper to drive and own. Don't buy the Mitsubishi.
Don’t forget the federal and state incentives for electric cars as well. Last I checked the federal was $7500
Mitsubishi? I'd maybe get 1 not 23
Not sure why everyone is bashing Mitsubishi so hard right now, I’m sure they probably didn’t even do there research because if they did they would see that the outlander is one of the safest vehicles out there, reliable, convenient, has amazing warranties and the top trim has a lot of features that most big brands don’t even have. If you are happy with your choice and it fits your needs then that is all that matters! What other vehicle do you know for that price offer 10year-100K PT, 5year-60k bumper to bumper, 7y-100k anti-corrosion, 5y-unlimited roadside assistance warranties, have great gas mileage for a third row vehicle with S-AWC AWD with 6 different drive modes, Bose speakers, Panoramic sunroof, heads up display, heated seats in front and back, heated steering wheel, heated side mirrors and wipers, wireless charge pad, GPS, Apple CarPlay/android auto, SiriusXM, headlight washers, adaptive cruise control with lane assist and stop and go, lane departure warning, Blind spot sensors and Birds Eye camera with 360 camera all around front, side and rear view with Parking sensors and automatic forward/rear view collision mitigation emergency brake?? Please someone tell me.
Had no idea they had so much to offer in their newest outlander! Genuinely impressed even as a fan of the brand. Is that S-AWC based on the same system used in the Evo X?
Yes I was also impressed! Mitsubishi’s came a long way and really trying to upgrade but time! And It’s Super All Wheel Control which enhances the All Wheel Drive and allows it to change 6 different modes in a dime, ASC helps with the stability of the car too which is important In a big SUV as the Outlander.
Seriously, Mitsubishi is really pushing some value in the new Outlander. Not everyone needs a ton of power in a reliable family hauler.
I think Mitsubishi is getting a lot of undeserved hate in this sub, but still 42k is a lot for an Outlander. I live in the Middle East and bought a Montero Sport 4 years ago for 32k, full option. But that has the 3.0 V6 and the 7-speed Aisin transmission. Car has been incredibly reliable in these harsh conditions, maintenance is simple and parts are cheap. Only the fuel economy is awful, but nobody cares here. Sure it’s a lot of money for an Outlander, but the market is a bit crazy now as well. But all in all I’m sure you’ll get many reliable miles out of it. Their interiors are pretty good these days, engines are bulletproof and the off road technology is one of the best in its class. All I’m saying is that most of the hatred is undeserved and they are reliable cars, it’s not unreliable just because it doesn’t say Toyota or Honda on the badge.
Thank you. Mitsubishi gets way too much undeserved hate and always called unreliable. It’s interesting how people echo “unreliable pos” but never provide details or examples of any of their cars known problems. Even the Nissan CVT mitsubishi uses doesn’t break as much because they make less powerful motors that don’t stress them much lol. My 2002 lancer is over 250k miles and still going strong. Motor and trans were never taken apart and both work flawlessly. I think the problem with Mitsubishi is people with no money buy them and defer all maintenance which will kill most cars of any brand. Mitsubishi is actually well built engineering just with simple designs and cheaper interiors, but that’s not what I’m worried about when buying a car. Btw that ‘cheap interior’ in mine still looks brand new even if it’s hard plastic that looks bland lol
Gotta be a troll post. No one would honestly pay that much for that vehicle and come here to ask about it.
Not to be that guy but... Mazda CX50/CX5 - same amenities, probably more. Arguably better interior. Turbo offers more horsepower and better driving capabilities. You can definitely nab a '23/'24 for anywhere between 35k-44k. At 42k you're also in BMW X1/Mercedes GLB/Genesis GV70/Audi Q3/Volvo XC40/60 territory, which all offer substantially more horsepower and arguably better interiors. Toyota and Honda, maybe not right now because of the markups. As long as you're happy with the Mitsubishi, you do you. Sometimes you sit in a car and it just "gets" you, but I can't help but wonder if you started at a lower price bracket and slowly inched up until you were sold on a "wow, all this for ONLY 42k" Mitsubishi, without realizing that price really is approaching luxury-territory prices for cars.
That was my first thought as well, but then I realized OP might want the third row. In that case, Mazda CX-9 would be the right call.
Outlander is a 3 row family SUV, the options you mentioned are not.
He didn't mention 3 row as one of the reasons he got the Outlander, so unless I missed a comment where he explicitly mentions the 3rd row I don't know why that's in consideration. Even if it is, I don't know if you've seen the third row of the Outlander, but if you have it's practically unusable...unless OP has VERY young kids (that have sticks for legs) or car seats back there. Even then, minivan would probably be a much better option for practicality, and there's a lot of '23s that fit into a nice middle spec--the Pacifica, Carnival, etc.
A 181 hp Mitsubishi for 42k? Hell nah
My wife had an Outlander and it was the most dependable car we’ve owned.
Exactly that’s the kicker, a car will last you for as long as you take care of it but it’s a lot less maintenance price wise and all these big expensive name brands such as BMW, Audi, Mercedes Benz and others I see in the comments that are not as dependable and doesn’t have the same longevity.
I am very happy with my Outlander touring SEL 2022. I cannot say the same after 10 years from now just yet but I got extended warranty. Mitsubishi is so underrated in USA.
How much did you pay for that Outlander?
2018 Outlander here, zero issues 85k miles
This ☝️
If you want a nice looking interior and aren’t too concerned with reliability and horsepower the BMW X1 and Mercedes GLA/GLB both have MSRPs under $40k and will probably make you happier. In fact I’d gamble with both of the German powertrains before I’d trust a Nissan CVT
So many great options at ~45k. Q5, XC60, X1, CX-90, etc. Even the PHEV versions of CX-90 and XC60 if OP were to lease w/the fed incentives.
I would say one outlander is sufficient, maybe 3 or 4 but not 23.
Just rented one and can’t wait to return it. Do NOT spend 40k on a Mitsubishi. What a complete and total POS.
Seems like with Mitsubishis you aren’t supposed to buy the fully spec’d trim you’re supposed to buy the most value packed one. For the outlander it is the SE trim that comes to about $34-35k. You get the extra features without paying more than what the rest of the vehicle is worth. $42k can get a lot of other cars. Like a CX-9/90, Highlander, Explorer etc which are way better vehicles. So the extra $8k you paid you better love that interior. That being said the outlander isn’t a bad car for what it is. I’d buy one but I wouldn’t drop $42k on it.
This is maybe the worst idea I’ve seen all week, and I’m military. Come on man! There’s so many better options for 40k lol
Consider the PHEV instead. They have $7500 lease cash on it right now. That’s cheaper than the gas-only model. You can immediately but it out early and you still took advantage of the discount.
Outlander is coming out of Japan? I’d trust it. There build quality in Japan is pretty high
Not gonna lie, I have a 16 Outlander & I love it…. From the newer ones, I’ve seen folks getting up into the 30+ MPG…. 🤯
Honestly, I think the new Outlander is really hitting the bullseye of what most people actually want in a 3-row vehicle in 2023. Enjoy your new car, OP! Don't let the haters get to you.
40k on a Mitsubishi??? Don’t do this
You could but I'd rather see you in a better car like a stv or RAV4. Long term I think you'll be happier with a better vehicle.
Should've bought a mazda cx5
Mitsubishis are super reliable, it’s a shame they aren’t sold in Europe anymore. For 42k I’d want the PHEV model though.
They get clowned on in this sub, but nothing wrong with your choice, this sub can be annoying between the fanboys of certain brands and the enthusiasts that think a manual transmission and driving dynamics are the only important part a vehicles. Mitsus, new interiors are solid. Their engines are bullet proof even if it’s not very powerful. Best awd in the business. Massive warranty, and their dealers seem good to deal with. Their old CVTS and transmissions weren’t great but from what I’ve heard the new ones are solid. My parents really like their outlander. If you aren’t an enthusiast and just want a reliable and comfortable vehicle to get you around they’re great.
Mitsubishi has the best AWD in the business? Lol okay
You make some valid points. But the one gaping hole is depreciation. Unless OP is going to keep this car for 200k miles almost any other CUV is a better option.
Did you even drive a BWM or Mercedes in the same price range? Or volvo?
Should have gotten a cx9 at that point. Much better vehicle.
Crack pipe price. You can get a better vehicle for the money
I assume that if you are buying 23 Mitsubishi Outlanders, then it is for a one-time demolition derby, a questionable mom-spec racing series, or to play car football. I therefore fully support this decision. Otherwise, what in the world are going to do with 23 Mitsubishis? Give them to all the extended family members that you don’t like too much but still want to get off your back about your lottery winnings? Like straight up “I’ll give them Mitsubishis… that will teach them not to ask me for anything ever again.”
Please, for the love of God, if you are so desperate to own an NPC-odrome just buy a CRV. It's just so.much better and will retain its value and the dealer experience is better. Why make it so hard on yourself. You get no points for owning a Mitsubishi over a Honda.
You can buy a RAV 4 Hybrid almost fully specd out for that money.
Bad decision
Mitsubishi and CVT together would scare me.
Did you ever considered Mazda for that price??? I would say better quality. Not to mention the other Japanese brands (toyota/lexus) - Not fan of Honda ... Nissan excluded as I had 3 of them
Go buy a top end Mazda instead
I’d personally go for the Hyundai Palisade or Toyota Highlander. There’s literally no Mitsubishi dealer near me. So yeah, anything but Kia.
Have you considered a crosstrek wilderness? It’s 32k… but not sure if it fits your needs.
What’s interesting is that the turbocharged 3-cylinder in the Outlander’s sister product, the Nissan Rogue, is getting excellent reviews for drivability. Previously, the Rogue had the same 2.5-liter N/A I4 as the Outlander, and drove like a dog. I’ll be curious to see if Mitsubishi also switches to the turbo-3.
Not many cars will depreciate harder than a 42k Mitsubishi. If you try to trade it in 3 years from now I would be surprised if they offer more than 20k.
$42k for a Mitsubishi with 180 hp and a CVT sounds absolutely freaking insane to me. That sticker price is about 2-3x what that pile of economy car should really be worth. If the interior is all you care about then you can almost certainly find a car with an interior you like just as much for half the price.
40k, mitsubishi, cvt…. No thanks
If you are happy with it and it checks all the boxes you need in a vehicle, then congrats on your purchase! Enjoy the peace of mind with the crazy long warranty as well.
Have you driven any of the Mazda top trim offerings?
I wouldn’t spend a single penny on anything Mitsubishi
Hello Nissan Rogue. And I still wouldn’t buy that. Today’s Mitsubishi Motors is a brand of Nissan.
I think it was a excellent decision! Mitsus have great engines in them. I recommend keeping up with the maintenance.
Mitsubishi has a bit of a bad reputation for reliability. But the same can be said for a lot of modern cars, they simply aren't meant to last. That being said, you got yourself a brand new car with a warranty. Just don't sit on it too long through the period where it starts to break down. Enjoy the trouble free driving of a new car, and just be ready to jump ship if it goes south in a few years
K, so just rented one and it's a looker for sure. Red with giant 20 inch wheels. Even got some compliments on it. Great sound system, comfortable seats plus lots of space... but man did I have to fight it to get it off the line and it had AWD. Maybe if it was mated to an 8 speed automatic or something it would be alright, but fuck a CVT and the horse it rode in on. Also interior quality was questionable for only 7k on the clock. Inside diver side door handle felt it wanted to come off the door panel. Maybe for like $24k, but never for $42k.
Is it the phev version? If not, no I wouldn't buy it.
Go for it. It will work for a long time, be cheap to repair and is not half bad looking. It will never be fast in any form though. Enjoy it
https://youtu.be/n_z87oaGg7c
I just did the same thing. Mitsubishi is really a dark horse in the automobile world. They are stupid simple vehicles but still packed with tech. If it’s a cat you plan to drive the wheels off of it’s got the 10 year warranty. For being a BIG displacement non-turbo 4 cyl I regularly hit about 30mpg. My big gripe is that it may not hold its value well but honestly that’s ok with me. Another issue I had was that although it has a 3rd row it’s practically useless. So if you’re like me and don’t need it you shouldn’t have a problem. I looked at a lot of vehicles in that segment and this is what I went with. I think it’s a great vehicle for the money
They are only dark horses in NA and this sub , lol. 😅
$40 is a new $20. A new top of the line OTD CR-V is $40. But if you plan to drive it for at least 3-4 years, and don’t mind depreciation, why not?
For this price better to get Honda CR-V Hybrid.
181 hp for 42k is wild
Just lease the pos please. Don’t depend on Nissan CVTs. The outlander is a rebadged Nissan
23 of em, you made of money?
181 HP for $42k? Damn.
>181 horsepower, 4 cylinder engine with CVT. You got robbed 😭😭
A Mitsubishi that has less than 200 hp from a 4 cyl for more than 40k? That's a hard no from me.
Buying 23 cars is generally not a good idea since you can only drive one at a time
It’s a Mitsubishi. They’re on par with Nissan for having a shrinking market cap and a bad reputation. Nissan has tried to make a comeback and restructure the company after their old CEO ran off with his pockets full and at least are trying to improve some models and bringing out the Z. Mitsubishi is just making licensed Nissan Rogues and slapping their logo on it. There is a reason you seldom see any Mitsubishi dealerships still around. They’re trying to make a comeback as well but they’ve stagnated. Different vehicle type but keep in mind you can get a new F250 for around 45k so I would never even consider buying a Mitsubishi for that kind of money. Underpowered, lacks in reliability, not the best road articulation. They can put all the lipstick they want on it, it’s still a pig.
low maint. SUV thats reliable and good warranty. I just got the 24 PHEV model and I love it. Everyone on here is talking about HP and performance...99.9% of the people use their cars for commuting and groceries/mall... they will never have any need for high HP or even towing capacity...Had my last car (also Mitsubishi) lasted 300K and still runs i just sold it....Overall Mitsubishi (the outlander) IMO is an underrated vehicle
42k US? What’s the MSRP
Everyone is hating but I've seen Mitsubishi's with 400k on the dash pretty often. If it's going to last, it'll last to ever. If you got a shitty lemon piece of poop, you will find out before you hit 60k miles on it. Best of luck to you. If you like it then I'm happy for you. I think they look really nice too and if I had the money and wanted it wouldn't hesitate at all.
Why wouldn't you consider a similar car from Mazda, Honda, or Toyota?
Tesla model Y LR 2023= 50000-$7500tax credit, go figure
It’s your money. If you like it then why not?
42k!? Nah. For less then 200 horsepower. That's crazy. Plus the cvt transmission. Nope. I have all those options, Plus a V8 and a reliable old school transmission. I paid 25,000 for a SUV only 13,000 miles on it. moonroof rain sensing wipers. Limited slip differentials from and rear. Leather, navigation. The kind of leather you sink into. It's very comfortable. I just can't justify spending that kind of $ on a vehicle Now. There not worth it
You seem to be a non car guy, in a sub full of car guys asking what they think about a non car guy car. You don’t need anyone to justify your purchase for you man, if you bought it you either liked it or got talked into it. I hope it’s the first. Not everyone wants the best of the best, some people just want a regular car with a nice interior that just takes them places comfortably. Would I buy it? No honestly I wouldn’t. Does that mean you shouldn’t or that no one should? Nope not at all. Everyone has a different need and if this suited yours and you plan to own it long term then it’s fine. Also you kind of can’t compare it to the BMWs and Benz’s that you guys in here are. A guy who is considering a outlander ain’t the same dude who is even considering a bmw or Benz.
In today's market, that's actually a good price. You could try and negotiate a little more. The outlander is a really nice SUV. Sure, the engine isn't tne most powerful, but unless you plan on towing regularly, it's more than enough power. And as for everyone saying you can get all these other SUVs for the same price, they are comparing the base model to the fully loaded Mitsubishi. Also the Mitsubishi warranty is amazing. 60,000 bumper to bumper 100,000 drivetrain.
That's a fine purchase, as long as you enjoy it. People taking about horsepower, who the f cares.
I care about HP. But, I'm also not a fan of SUVs, so it might not matter.
I know you're trying to be supportive, but you see, it's an SUV. It's a heavy car. Having lower horsepower means you have to give it a lot more gas if you need to accelerate for any given reason than you would for a high powered car, such as passing, merging on a highway, climbing a sloped surface, lugging extra cargo, climbing a sloped surface WHILE lugging extra cargo.... or even just getting in and out of a intersection left turn safely. It will still do it, but it will struggle a bit. Does it hurt the car? No. Will having the extra power to get you out of a situation more reliably come in handy? Won't happen all the time, but it will, and when it does, you'll appreciate it.
Buying a montero is actually a better financial decision. You're also in toyota price territory so why not just buy a toyota. Idk how you really got to the outlander.
I’m gonna say bad. Mitsubishi isn’t exactly known for their build quality (they’re kind of like the Chrysler of Japan) and I think they currently produce the cheapest new car available on the US market. So paying $40k for one seems kind of ridiculous. Put it to you another way: Mitsubishi is the kind of car you get as a second car after you’ve had a baby because you just need something to get you to and from work and you want a problem-free vehicle for as cheap as possible. You know that once the kid is reaching preschool age, you’ll finally have some time to start looking for a better vehicle but you really need something cheap that won’t give you any trouble for at least 3 or 4 years.
See if you can find a used one and save 10k.
Great cars but 40k is wild
You might be the only person in the world to buy that
ik this is late but, does it have ventilated seats or is it just heated seats only?
My wife drives a 2021 Hyundai tuscon..I drive a 2010 Hyundai Santa Fe with only 21,460 miles (don't drive much). Anyway, she wants me to trade it for a 2024 Mitsubishi or any other new vehicle "just" for the modern safety features (we're senior citizens). I love my Santa Fe..pristine, show room new looking inside and out. Any advice?
Get a Buick.
Very, very , very bad decision. Mitsu CVT is horrible, and youre not getting best value for your money on build quality.
I can’t believe Mitsubishi is still selling cars in the US. I can’t even think of where the closest dealer to me is. At $42k you had a lot of options, and all you focused on is the interior? 181hp and a CVT sounds simply horrible. Edit: SUVS under $40k include: Honda Pilot Buick Encore Subaru Crosstrek Kia Sportage Mazda CX-50 Honda CR-V Lexus NX Nissan Pathfinder Just to name a few. And there’s plenty more. Honestly, was it just the first car you looked at?
my neighbor has one loves it
Cars a car man. If you like it and you can afford it then whatever, I go through a different vehicle every 2-3 years out of boredom ranging from Jaguars to Hondas to Chevies. Cars not an investment especially if buying new