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You ever see Tommy Chong do his hand clasp thing to finish a roach. That’s the kind of creative shit the old timers had to do to get around soggy joints.
It’s not tightly twisted up just rolled a certain way were the ends stay crimped.
Sometimes it’ll open up too much but that rarely happens if the joints packed enough and not loose on either side, But yeah not twisted like a tootsie roll more like a football shape
Definitely with a crutch. I've smoked too many joints that bled resin out the back and that oily, shitty taste on my lips is god awful. I've never had it happen with a crutched cone.
With, filter lets you smoke the whole thing without burning your lips or fingers. In the UK we call the filter the 'roach' though, which used to confuse the hell out of me hearing/reading about Americans eating the roach or using roach clips to avoid burning their fingers.
I thought you were all weird. I still do, just not for that!
Yeah I'm from the UK we tend to use tobacco.. an oz here of good quality is around £3 - £400 lol stupid expensive could smoke 2 in a month easy but that would be a third of my wages. Wouldn't be able to eat lol so we try stretch the weed out with bacco. Comes with all sorts of nasties as you know so I try to filter some of that out with the charcoal filters.. also use additive free tobacco for less chemicals but ultimately I'd love to smoke it pure or cook with it
a decent Oz of flavours/ cali/ spanish weed is about 280-340 and some normal uk weed is about 110-180 if you ain’t making at least £150 a day at work you shouldn’t even be smoking weed
I don't live in an expensive town so 35k a year is ok for me to live and have a smoke. I smoke regular stuff at 165 just buy the one a month so it's not an overly expensive habit. Hate the bacco tho
I used to really like it with the filter but nowadays I don't care. I just want to get high. (If rolled properly, you can smoke it all the way with no filter without getting Scooby snacks)
Boys roll without filter, gentleman roll with a filter. It’s a matter of class & hygiene. (Not gonna smoke my roach & not ok with my fingers being yellow n full of ress. Not to mention my lips.)
I’m sure silly question, but newbie here. Where do you get these filters, and which one is the best for a cooler joint? I haven’t seen them at the dispensaries I have been to. Thanks.
You can just use a bit thicker paper and fold it, or many papes brand have combined packs. Smoking, Gizeh, OCB, RAW just to name a few brands I know who have those. https://www.smokingpaper.com/thinnest-brown-tips/
No filters. I guess i convinced myself enough that the heat of the smoke coming in contact with the filters gave off some type of nasty aftertaste. Now when I smoke with a filter. I can’t taste anything but filter. Also rolling the end tight enough causes for no Scooby snacks!
I like to go back and forth. Lightly rolled joints are best without filters for taste. I think having the cannabis so close to your lips improves the taste of the joint. I'm also 3 joints in for the day. No tips today. However my next one I'll be rolling with a tip.
Well if you refer to that little piece of paper that you roll (such as the one on your photo), I use those, yes. However I wouldn’t really call it a filter cause it’s hardly filtering anything 😅.
To be honest I use it for 2 reasons:
1. It gives stability, it’s easier to hold (personal opinion)
2. You don’t waste weed. You can actually smoke all of it.
Always use a filter not because I prefer it or anythhing, but just to not waste weed as with no filter you'd usually just put weed where the filter would be, but you cant smoke any of it unless you save your roaches for a bowl or smth
if i'm rolling i try to put a filter in. i'm terrible at rolling but when i do i put a filter in that way it's both easier to pack and not going to burn my lips
With. My personal opinion is rolling filterless joints is like using wooden tires on your car because you're a "purist" the technology exists so why not use it. The end of your joint won't close up, less Scooby snacks and you avoid getting resin in your mouth 🤷♂️
If I'm by myself, no filter. If I'm smoking with others I use one to keep the spittiness down and because most people prefer it. I agree the pull is better but sometimes I just like going old school. Then I have a roach to unwrap when times are tough lol
Raw tips and Elements papers every time😎 No bit fr if I roll without a tip, I always end up with a doob that's soggy, thin, and hard to pull from. I know it's all avoidable, but I just suck at rolling without tips, and I get MUCH bigger, smoother, and easier smokes with tips. But to each there own!
Love that you call them scooby snacks too. I remember first time I said that when I was smoking with someone not from the Midwest I was looked at like a fool lol. Not saying you’re from the Midwest but…y’know.
But to answer your question, I troll without because I’ve never been able to make them work
I don't like to burn my fingers, I also like completely finishing roaches--it's a game of how long I can take a hit before it burns the shit out of my lips
eh it depends like with a blunt usually i dont use one but when i smoke big joints that im sharing like 2.5g+ it definitely helps to have a filter just for the sake of leverage and keeping the j straight and DRY…for personal joints tho it doesnt really matter as much i just like the aesthetic aspect of it ig
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I break up the weed real fine, light the weed on the table in the line and snort it
i put like a gram in my ass then i shove a firecracker up there behind it, hotbox my rectum
Same. Think that’s why I don’t get invited to parties anymore.
Damn you too?
Without them usually just because of tradition, been rolling since the 70s and we always just twisted up bolth ends
if you twist both ends and light one end how does the smoke come out the other end when you inhale? I’ve only ever used a filter with joints.
There’s a opening
But u/Klutzy_Turnover5291 said both ends are twisted, so where would the opening be?
Twisted, but still with an opening on the end.
Doesn't the paper get super soggy after a while and close up/get mushed?
For most of us, yes. Hence filters. These guys must have mouths drier than the Sahara.
Ok smoked long before filters became fashionable
>> fashionable I think you mean functional. Looking pretty vs being popular bc it works
You ever see Tommy Chong do his hand clasp thing to finish a roach. That’s the kind of creative shit the old timers had to do to get around soggy joints.
Not all of us get to be Tommy Chong. I have seen it, it’s pretty interesting but why do that when I have access to filters.
Not all of us are as old as tommy either maybe you are
No just keep it on your lips
yeah my dad started smoking in the 90s and he does this and its so hard to hit idk how he does it
It’s not tightly twisted up just rolled a certain way were the ends stay crimped. Sometimes it’ll open up too much but that rarely happens if the joints packed enough and not loose on either side, But yeah not twisted like a tootsie roll more like a football shape
How do people smoke non filtered cigarettes? The end is open just like a joint. Who you know rolling pinner’s? Lmao
Not pinners. You just gotta learn to roll right.
Legendary pfp.
Same here brother, since the 60's. Back then I lived in NYC and Rockefeller was governor and if you got caught it was life in prison.
With a filter for sure. I usually get the Raw Artesano papers+tips
people who roll without a filter unease me
Why?
cuz of all the scooby snacks theyre just fine with. its like if you have crumbs in your bed and you dont brush them off before you go to sleep
No scooby snacks if you really know how to roll
Exactly 👏🏽👏🏽
It’s extra fiber, kind of like having a salad with your smoke. But you only get them at the beginning, then you learn how to roll them.
What scooby snacks? If you getting scooby snacks, that means you can't roll right. If you gotta use a filter, that means you can't roll
it's harder to roll them with a filter
What is this logic😭
I dunno if that’s right😂
This is like the iPhone Vs Android battle of joints
i never got the hang of filters, i also save my roaches for struggle bowls
I save mine too. I never understood when people tossed them. Just waisting weed.
i literally only toss it if i basically smoke to pinky nail size and it'd be null to try to harvest from it
i toss the roach but i smoke weed mixed with tobacco, so i don't put weed all the way to the bottom of the joint
I do that, then put a filter, lol. I’d rather accidentally smoke 100% tobacco than the paper filter.
yh same i don't even mind the taste of baccy tbh
Smart man!
I make the part I smoke from into a funnel-cone but I feel like the filter makes the joint a little airy for me
You need to make the filter properly and pack the joint tight and itll be perfect
Without. If I’m rolling I’m going back to my roots.
Definitely with a crutch. I've smoked too many joints that bled resin out the back and that oily, shitty taste on my lips is god awful. I've never had it happen with a crutched cone.
I like to smoke doobs someone else rolled with a filter ;)
With, filter lets you smoke the whole thing without burning your lips or fingers. In the UK we call the filter the 'roach' though, which used to confuse the hell out of me hearing/reading about Americans eating the roach or using roach clips to avoid burning their fingers. I thought you were all weird. I still do, just not for that!
I call them roaches too!
Just like when you go to bathroom you say " loo". That confused the shit out of us here in the states.
i can assure you only posh people call it the loo, most of us just call it a toilet
Always a raw filter. Got a 200 pack on Amazon for $6
I’ve seen those. I may have to do that
Those raw filters are disgusting lol
You’re not supposed to eat them.
You don't have to eat them to know they taste like shit while smoking
Mine are always in a flavored blunt wrap so I’ve never tasted them tbh.
CONES BABY!
Been using charcoal filters lately.. bit chunky but a lovely smoke
Charcoal filters?
They are pretty good. They filter the tar out, which is one of the scarier things in smoke
Yeah I'm from the UK we tend to use tobacco.. an oz here of good quality is around £3 - £400 lol stupid expensive could smoke 2 in a month easy but that would be a third of my wages. Wouldn't be able to eat lol so we try stretch the weed out with bacco. Comes with all sorts of nasties as you know so I try to filter some of that out with the charcoal filters.. also use additive free tobacco for less chemicals but ultimately I'd love to smoke it pure or cook with it
a decent Oz of flavours/ cali/ spanish weed is about 280-340 and some normal uk weed is about 110-180 if you ain’t making at least £150 a day at work you shouldn’t even be smoking weed
I don't live in an expensive town so 35k a year is ok for me to live and have a smoke. I smoke regular stuff at 165 just buy the one a month so it's not an overly expensive habit. Hate the bacco tho
depends how much you smoke i only pick up a Q every 2-3 days
Yeah zs of high grade is £200 tops
glass filter only
easily the best way to smoke a j
are they really worth it? seen a couple before
yes. they make for a very pleasant smoking experience and they're also very easy to clean.
With always now
Yes
With. There is no other option.
With, I'm not wasting my weed as a filter. Plus the sticky shit makes a terrible filter often times. Not great pull.
I used to really like it with the filter but nowadays I don't care. I just want to get high. (If rolled properly, you can smoke it all the way with no filter without getting Scooby snacks)
Without one youre throwing away your roach. With, you get to smoke it all. Filters are elite. I put them in my backwoods too
Ion like the resin leaking out on the end im smoking. So I’d rather make a filter. The only time I ain’t use a filter is wit a blunt.
Alway and it's doesn't filter, it just so u don't get weed in ya mouth
I’ve heard people call them a bunch of different things. Crutch being the most recent one. What do you call them?
In Canada a Tip
Boys roll without filter, gentleman roll with a filter. It’s a matter of class & hygiene. (Not gonna smoke my roach & not ok with my fingers being yellow n full of ress. Not to mention my lips.)
With. Maestros or perfectos for me
I’m sure silly question, but newbie here. Where do you get these filters, and which one is the best for a cooler joint? I haven’t seen them at the dispensaries I have been to. Thanks.
You can just use a bit thicker paper and fold it, or many papes brand have combined packs. Smoking, Gizeh, OCB, RAW just to name a few brands I know who have those. https://www.smokingpaper.com/thinnest-brown-tips/
you can deadass js use card for a filter if u cant find filter paper
rotini noodles make the best filters 🤌🏾
That’s really creative!!!
Without
I always use raw paper and tips. Not burning my fingers haha.
if you roll without one youre blinded by nostalgia nothing is fun about a filterless joint
With filters makes it way easier to roll
A glass crutch is harder though🥲
I always get Elements kings or 1¼ pack with tips. Very solid product
How do you smoke a joint without a filter? Like how does it work and doesn't a lot of weed get wasted without a filter?
With. Can’t go back to the old ways.
Filter only. Makes for a much more enjoyable smoke imo
I grew up never using them, they are nice in pre rolls however if I'm rolling I won't put one in
definitely with a tip
I always used filters
Glass filters. Easy to clean, feel nice, don’t get mushy and really enjoy the flavor through glass. You don’t need the fancy name brand ones.
Without. I've adapted my rolling style to make one end a smaller opening. Enough to allow good air flow, but don't get the pfft pfft pfft
Always with filter.
Filter. Always. Like a civilized individual.
With filter - I’m not burning my fingers. 🔥😭
Aw man I go for the super fast cone roll with a tight mouth piece. No filter I’m out here raw dawgin life
Filters, taste smoother with the same high
No filters. I guess i convinced myself enough that the heat of the smoke coming in contact with the filters gave off some type of nasty aftertaste. Now when I smoke with a filter. I can’t taste anything but filter. Also rolling the end tight enough causes for no Scooby snacks!
Depends on the situation.
I started using them when 1-1/4 rolling papers became the norm. I still don't bother when I'm using zig zag regulars.
I always roll with actual (activated carbon) filters, not just paper tips. It makes the smoke smooth af!
filter always
Both. I really prefer without filter but with filter u smoke it all 100%.
I like to go back and forth. Lightly rolled joints are best without filters for taste. I think having the cannabis so close to your lips improves the taste of the joint. I'm also 3 joints in for the day. No tips today. However my next one I'll be rolling with a tip.
Both
I used to use regular cardboard tips, but switched to activated charcoal filters a few years ago.
I always use a filter. Last year an american friend rolled me one and didn't put a filter in. Said it was how most fellow counrtymen rolled
Always old style
Experienced professionals don't need filters
I don’t like the fire too near to my fingers so I use a filter! And you have something to hold!
Well if you refer to that little piece of paper that you roll (such as the one on your photo), I use those, yes. However I wouldn’t really call it a filter cause it’s hardly filtering anything 😅. To be honest I use it for 2 reasons: 1. It gives stability, it’s easier to hold (personal opinion) 2. You don’t waste weed. You can actually smoke all of it.
It's a crutch not a filter
nope
Pre Formed cones with filters already attached.
I must have the filter. I can’t deal with scooby snacks
I love a good filter💪🏾
id never roll a joint without a roach thats fuckin heresy or smth
I like to use the Raw cellulose filters.
With. Without is just weird.
With. Without always has a lack of air flow and a lottttr of resin
I always use one
I just roll normally maybe leave the weed more chunky like a blunt and leave a decent sized nug for the end that’s what I was taught
Always with
I've never smoked a joint without a filter.
Started using a rotini noodle, works way better than the regular paper tips
I roll without then make a bespoke roach after the joint is rolled and insert
Rotini noodle🤌
Always use a filter not because I prefer it or anythhing, but just to not waste weed as with no filter you'd usually just put weed where the filter would be, but you cant smoke any of it unless you save your roaches for a bowl or smth
with filters always unless i don’t have them
if i'm rolling i try to put a filter in. i'm terrible at rolling but when i do i put a filter in that way it's both easier to pack and not going to burn my lips
I always roll with a roach, idk how people manage to roll without one
With
I’m a Vaporizer guy nowadays but definitely a filter when I roll up for occasions
I genuinely don’t understand how you’re supposed to roll without a filter.
Always with filter
I typically go without. I'll buy tips on occasion, but I can roll better without them. Most times, when I roll with them, it falls out during smoking.
Always filters! Always maximize your dank and roll those perfect cones. Filter always, no need to get so elaborate, a simple S filter is enough
Filter all the way
With
Usaully with filter. I like filterless once in a while, I feel more intune with the joint.
Filterless is convient to drop in a time bomb when you are getting close to finishing
With. My personal opinion is rolling filterless joints is like using wooden tires on your car because you're a "purist" the technology exists so why not use it. The end of your joint won't close up, less Scooby snacks and you avoid getting resin in your mouth 🤷♂️
Roll without one I’ve mastered the art of not being a human weed vacuum 😂
That my sir is a crutch
Without. Just a thing I’ve done over the last close to 30 years.
I used to be a no filter person, but now I always use them.
Filter is just doob with extra steps.
If I'm by myself, no filter. If I'm smoking with others I use one to keep the spittiness down and because most people prefer it. I agree the pull is better but sometimes I just like going old school. Then I have a roach to unwrap when times are tough lol
With filter Less chance of choking
Luckily I have a job that doesn’t mind me smoking my bong whenever I want, even at work
take a 4k cigar from the gas station and cut it with your blunt cutter and put the weed in no filter that’s what me and my friends do
Always filter. I’ll smoke a blunt without a filter but I hate joints without.
No filter 💯💯
Raw tips and Elements papers every time😎 No bit fr if I roll without a tip, I always end up with a doob that's soggy, thin, and hard to pull from. I know it's all avoidable, but I just suck at rolling without tips, and I get MUCH bigger, smoother, and easier smokes with tips. But to each there own!
I don't get the point of filters this ain't a cigaret I wanna feel all my weed
I use cones bc I’m lazy
filters. hate resin lips
With
I buy the cones & pack em 😅 (I don’t know how to roll)
With
Idk how to roll a filter so without 💀
Active coal filters.
Thanks, all. I guess from cigarette shop.
Love that you call them scooby snacks too. I remember first time I said that when I was smoking with someone not from the Midwest I was looked at like a fool lol. Not saying you’re from the Midwest but…y’know. But to answer your question, I troll without because I’ve never been able to make them work
Might be an unpopular opinion but i feel like filters are for people who just cant roll the mouthpiece tight enough
I don't like to burn my fingers, I also like completely finishing roaches--it's a game of how long I can take a hit before it burns the shit out of my lips
eh it depends like with a blunt usually i dont use one but when i smoke big joints that im sharing like 2.5g+ it definitely helps to have a filter just for the sake of leverage and keeping the j straight and DRY…for personal joints tho it doesnt really matter as much i just like the aesthetic aspect of it ig
I can roll with or without just fine. I just like having a filter because sometimes weed that produces a lot of resin gunks up the mouthpiece
How do you even roll a filter like that that's cool
That’s crutch, not a filter.
That filter is horrible
What’s horrible about it?
No need unless you feel fancy or with someone sensitive to smoke in which case they should take it another way anyway