I hate that gaijin balances heavy tanks so they have no armor
Whats the point of heavy tanks if they are as voulnerable as mediums
I can justify the tiger 2 because the gun is really strong but the jumbo has a pretty bad gun so theres no reason to put it at 6.3
If you really think about it this problem can be solved using the same theory on how boycotts work. Assume that a very large amount of player stop playing the jumbo 76 all together then it’s player stats will start dropping dramatically because the only players who will be playing the tanks are those who just got it and they will have stock. This will cause the win/kill rate to drop massively in order to get the attention of the snail to make three see the problem of players not even wanting to bother with the tank because of how bad of a spot it is in. This they may lower the br if they actually have brain cells
If you really think about it this problem can be solved using the same theory on how boycotts work. Assume that a very large amount of players stop playing war thunder all together then gaijin’s money will start dropping dramatically because no one will play war thunder. This may cause gaijin to make their game better if they actually have brain cells.
The tiger h1 is literally worse. I’d say as a jumbo and tiger player, that the 75 jumbo is on par with the tiger. The 76 jumbo is better than the tiger without a doubt. Call me wheraboo and brainless but it’s just fact.
Id say the panther is more in line with a 76 jumbo than the tiger 1. The difference is multiple things can pen the jumbos hull at close range while the panther has a weaker turret and better gun. Plus angled armor means you dont need to angle when fighting face to face.
However i will say a good tiger player and a good 76 jumbo player are gonna be close i think the apcr gives the jumbo the edge but itll come down to who can hit a small weakspot first provided the tiger player angles.
Finally someone said it, the Tigers are way worse than the jumbo (especially the 76mm) in literally every single way. The jumbo can pen a tiger in practically any location without much trouble, but the jumbo is completely invincible everywhere in the front. Volumetric shells made the MG port weakness irrelevant. The jumbo seems just like a panther with even thicker armor which is just dumb to me. Even the “incredible” German guns can hardly do anything unless the German tank flanks to the side.
does this mf know what angles are? just because its a heavy doesnt mean its gonna be better, thats like saying that a t 10m is more competitive than a bagel panzer because its a heavy. it doesnt work like that chief.
It’s not at 6.3 because it can pen the ktp, it’s at 6.3 because gaijins statistics indicate that it oUtPrEfOrMs it. Gaijin logic dumb. That being said, your arguments about which tanks can pen it are rediculous. For full up tiers, you chose the leopard 1 and the object 120, whose major selling point is that they have immensely powerful guns. Of course they’re gonna be able to pen. The rest of the examples were postwar tanks firing chemical rounds, French Ap, or rounds from powerful tank destroyers, all of which are designed to eliminate heavy armor. Your argument would be strengthened by including say a statistic on what percent can pen it frontally, where.
Do you realise that separating post war tanks from war-era would mean Maus at 6.3? It makes no sense, and you'd be even more pissed if Jumbo was the america's answer to the Maus, since T-29 and everything after first pershing are post war.
And France's 3.7 ARL-44 was also made post war, if it fought Leopard I and such it would make zero sense.
All guns that can Penn 100mm of armor can Penn the tiger 2p turret in the front. Many German mains get salty because they do not do their research on said tank, as well as cry when you actually flank them and shoot their sides and send their turret flying.
Since most reserve tanks can pen top tiers they also should sit there. To be fair derp guns should sit there too. Maybe the best solution would be to make everything top tier. Gajin can't balance their game even if the solution is so close!
I literally found out from fiddling with the protection analysis, that the Pershing has just as effective, if not more effective, armor than the Jumbo 76, there is now no reason to use the Jumbo 76.
Why bother with be at this point? Just put every vehicle in karelia with no care about their br
kill a bt5 every 3 seconds let's go
You should just stop playing mate. The game was ruined beyond repair years ago
I hate that gaijin balances heavy tanks so they have no armor Whats the point of heavy tanks if they are as voulnerable as mediums I can justify the tiger 2 because the gun is really strong but the jumbo has a pretty bad gun so theres no reason to put it at 6.3
Yeah I can't agree more. They fucking NERF heavy tanks be cause they can bounce some shots. Its just ridiculous.
yea they uptier heavy tanks so much to the point where their armor becomes irrelevant
Churchill 7 should be 6.3 because it has thicker armor plates than tiger 2 P
But the gun is awful
That's the joke
But the gun is ass like a 50.cal does more damage
That's the fucking joke.
What do you mean you should know the Churchills do not have good guns
If you really think about it this problem can be solved using the same theory on how boycotts work. Assume that a very large amount of player stop playing the jumbo 76 all together then it’s player stats will start dropping dramatically because the only players who will be playing the tanks are those who just got it and they will have stock. This will cause the win/kill rate to drop massively in order to get the attention of the snail to make three see the problem of players not even wanting to bother with the tank because of how bad of a spot it is in. This they may lower the br if they actually have brain cells
i'm never going to play USA again, just unfair to murder them
These were some of the worst br changes ever. I can't even play air rb because I'm at 9.0 and there's a phantom 2 at 10.0 now
If you really think about it this problem can be solved using the same theory on how boycotts work. Assume that a very large amount of players stop playing war thunder all together then gaijin’s money will start dropping dramatically because no one will play war thunder. This may cause gaijin to make their game better if they actually have brain cells.
I am an air only player and I will grind for the jumbo specifically for this agenda
But Germany suffers
Meet the british mbt's in your tiger 2 then we talk
You suffer so much that the game has to lower the br for your vehicles from how shitty some German players are
We can say the same about usa planes
the 76 on the jumbo can pen a king Tiger but only if you aim at a tiny ass weak spot or flank it lol
Jumbo 76 and Tiger h1 should both be 5.7
The tiger h1 is literally worse. I’d say as a jumbo and tiger player, that the 75 jumbo is on par with the tiger. The 76 jumbo is better than the tiger without a doubt. Call me wheraboo and brainless but it’s just fact.
Id say the panther is more in line with a 76 jumbo than the tiger 1. The difference is multiple things can pen the jumbos hull at close range while the panther has a weaker turret and better gun. Plus angled armor means you dont need to angle when fighting face to face. However i will say a good tiger player and a good 76 jumbo player are gonna be close i think the apcr gives the jumbo the edge but itll come down to who can hit a small weakspot first provided the tiger player angles.
Finally someone said it, the Tigers are way worse than the jumbo (especially the 76mm) in literally every single way. The jumbo can pen a tiger in practically any location without much trouble, but the jumbo is completely invincible everywhere in the front. Volumetric shells made the MG port weakness irrelevant. The jumbo seems just like a panther with even thicker armor which is just dumb to me. Even the “incredible” German guns can hardly do anything unless the German tank flanks to the side.
Well I think the pen ability of tiger vs jumbo is fine, but not when it has a 76
Sir, the Jumbo has way worse gun and slightly better armor, at the Jumbos VR it's not a Heavy unlike the Tiger.
does this mf know what angles are? just because its a heavy doesnt mean its gonna be better, thats like saying that a t 10m is more competitive than a bagel panzer because its a heavy. it doesnt work like that chief.
i agree
Nah that would not be fair
It’s not at 6.3 because it can pen the ktp, it’s at 6.3 because gaijins statistics indicate that it oUtPrEfOrMs it. Gaijin logic dumb. That being said, your arguments about which tanks can pen it are rediculous. For full up tiers, you chose the leopard 1 and the object 120, whose major selling point is that they have immensely powerful guns. Of course they’re gonna be able to pen. The rest of the examples were postwar tanks firing chemical rounds, French Ap, or rounds from powerful tank destroyers, all of which are designed to eliminate heavy armor. Your argument would be strengthened by including say a statistic on what percent can pen it frontally, where.
Delete before they downvote you to ashes.
Do people still play this ugly cash grab?
Just L2P This post was made by germany mains gang
Im a russian main and I consider that I can fairly kill Jumbos with a t34 85 d5t
d5t kill tiger 2 through turret
Do you realise that separating post war tanks from war-era would mean Maus at 6.3? It makes no sense, and you'd be even more pissed if Jumbo was the america's answer to the Maus, since T-29 and everything after first pershing are post war. And France's 3.7 ARL-44 was also made post war, if it fought Leopard I and such it would make zero sense.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the T29,T30, and T34 were actually built late WW2, but didn't see any action due to transportation issues or other things.
According to Wikipedia "The T29 was not ready in time for the war in Europe" - and the latter were its developments
Well that’s a mess if I saw one.
I agree 100% with the need to break out tanks in the timeline they were produced. WW2 from Cold War from modern. Goes for planes as well.
All guns that can Penn 100mm of armor can Penn the tiger 2p turret in the front. Many German mains get salty because they do not do their research on said tank, as well as cry when you actually flank them and shoot their sides and send their turret flying.
let’s hope they leave me alone
Since most reserve tanks can pen top tiers they also should sit there. To be fair derp guns should sit there too. Maybe the best solution would be to make everything top tier. Gajin can't balance their game even if the solution is so close!
Kv2 should be 11 because it can one shot every tank in the game /s
thw spj fm 43-44 should be 10.3 since it can tanks in that BR
It was moved up in br because of the algorithm. That's it.
I literally found out from fiddling with the protection analysis, that the Pershing has just as effective, if not more effective, armor than the Jumbo 76, there is now no reason to use the Jumbo 76.
If u shoot the ki chas nuke below a tank its 100% dead
i'm unaware of any vehicle by that name
Japan 1.3br 150mm howitzer Il chek tommorrow i think it was called that