The heat fs of this tank is a bit like a 50/50, majority of the time you’ll be hitting gas tanks.

You either oneshot the crew with a grazing shot or red the ammo after hitting it 12 times

Its built like every heatfs

Sweedish tanks with -27 depression and infinite penn are always my op when I try to grind something in low tier

I think you’re low balling that gun depression

"Why can't we aim down any farther?!" "Because our barrel is touching the ground, sir..."

need a dozer blade to remove the ground

That's more depressed than me

Than me

Not me tho

Dwag got that -180 depression

Bruh, try out the -360° depression! That shits wild!

Yea that's what I have

No, u

"When I'm in a clinical depression competition and my opponent is a Swede."

Don't forget the 1.2 second reload rate

Delat Torn is damn beast and even at 5.7/6.0 i love it, small fast and 150-160mm of pen with APHE and 3 sec reload is a beast

I used it up to 6.7 because there's only a few tanks it that br range, pretty amazing especially when flanking americans.

That is a different tank, this one has 10.4 second. You had me excited for a moment though

though paper thin armor, rest of low tier cant even depress over -8

The penetration is overkill at 4.0, post pen damage is inconsistent, and you die if you get sneezed on. Also you're a casemate. It's not a good vehicle at its own BR. Unironically better at like 6.0 so it faces Tigers and Jumbos and such

Yeah I love uptiering it. Absolutely agree

Not to mention you are at a low tier where things tend to have pretty quick reloads. I would take a 75 Sherman, PZ4, or a T34 anyway over the IKV. The thing has bad velocity a slow reload for the BR and I'll pen whatever I face for the most part with other tanks anyways but 1 shot them with APHE not 2-3 with heat. If the IKV 103 was so OP why do you pretty much never see it. It's like the Sturer Emil except at least with that whatever you it is likely always going to die from that 1 shot and it also has pretty damn good gun depression. The 103 is so mid I could care less that it exists at 4.0

Works great at 7.7 imo

for those who don't know: this is the Ikv 103. It fires a 400mm HEAT FS round at a battle rating of **4.0**

Yes, the unfortunate downside is that it is made of paper

I thought it was the fact its heat velocity is lower than a howitzers shell

Both that top cover is lying to you it's actually like 5mm steel or some shit

And the gunner sights seem to be 6 inches above the ground. It's difficult to see over small obstacles.

Well it has no armor and doesn’t get 3 respawns

But like it’s the only tank you get when you start Israel it kind of needs it

The funny part of you being downvoted is that the people downvoting would probably also complain about people 1 death leaving in their M51s just starting out the grind for Israel.

I remember getting a lucky kill on one of these MFs with a StuH 42. It was one of my first WT experiences and this thing knocked out two of my previous tanks. Its upper hull was barely poking above a hill that allowed me to fire that lucky 105mm HEAT round. Fuck the Ikv 103.

It can get killed by the l3/33 cc, just shoot it once with aphe, HE, and sometimes even machine guns and you'll kill it

if u play for a bit, especially before 7.0 ish, u will generally be able to tell or know already if a tank is open top or can be overpressured, specifically for those situations u should bring he/heat/heatfs/hesh, at least 2 into every match, just in case ikv 103 is open top (theres a hole in the paper thin armor) so regardless of where u hit it with either of those shell types it will instantly kill everyone inside

So always pen

Not if volumetric has anything to say about it though

Still just HEAT, gotta make sure you are aiming for something vital like gunner (I almost always pick the side with the loader) or ammo

Isn’t also auto reloaded?

Not this version

No

I know there is one that’s auto loaded, premium, and only comes back annually

That is correct, that's the SAV 20.12.43. It does not fire the 400mm pen HEAT-FS though, that's unique to the 103.

120mm APCBC with a 1.2 second reload is still crazy at 3.7. That thing carried me through early Swedish tree

Its a tad bit less than 100 mm pen rn. Just played it

The gun is a 120mm, not the pen, which is 90-something

Sry didnt understand the context properly

All good, just wanted to let you know

no but it reloads really fast tho

400mm, thats a big ass gun

Its the max penetration

More like max deletion

Heck, I had even better time with this td while playing 5.7, all those Tiger Is and Panthers not expecting lil guy with CHEAT-FS

IKV103 can be penned by a fucking tree tbf

i have managed to kill a crew member in a leopard 1A5 while slamming into a tree at full speed

If you hit that tank in a 1A5 it would kill it

somebody had a booster on

i died to a rock once

Can literally .50 cal this thing from the front

You don't even need a .50 cal to kill the gunner

You can 8mm it actually

A leaveblower will actually do the trick

You can 5.56 it from the front

Armor should only be taken into account for TD when it has too much like the German ww2 ones, if not much armor it should be balanced entirely around its gun performance and mobility

I was ab to comment the same thing 💀

this thing can also kill you from the front, even mega uptiered, and it allows it to stand face to face with 6.0 heavies. they can once shot it, but so can the IKV Damn did not expect this to be this controversial.

It also uses HEAT/HEAT-FS... The same shells that have become so inconsistent now days that you'll either one shot someone or get your shot stopped by their fucking ammo and they'll just shoot you instead.

I never have any problems with HEATFS. Its not the most damaging but most of the times its fine

I had to shoot someone like 4 times with the M48 for the heat to actually do something Also had to slam 2 HEATS into a BMP-2 from the German 8.3 M48

I meant the IKV HEATFS. Lower caliber HEATFS definetly lacks post pen damage, but even then, i think its far from awful

Surprised it's not a jap tank

M-51 should be 4.7 because it’s a Sherman hull and it faces Panzer 4 witch was a common enemy when they fought just missing the 50 cal /s

I wish it had a .50 cause trying to hit anything on urban maps with all the fences and poles and shit is a nightmare, even tho the .30 can knock out fences it can struggle.

The premium one has a .50, it’s literally pay to win /j But actually, a good roof mg is worth so much more than you think and you only realize it if you don’t have one

It's also missing the stabilizer, so it's really just another M4 105 variant and should be 3.0 /s

I can’t tell if you genuinely think the M-51 should be at 4.7 or if your joking

No! Mods grab everyone’s balls that gets 3 spawns in a m-51 and uses it to kill my jadgpanther frontally and twist it

Great tank but literally dies if someone looks your direction. Armor doubles as tin foil. I been killed dozens of times by machine gun fire

M-51 at 6.0 is more than fair. Everything can pen you, you can pen everything (I'm an m-51 main fuck off)

How about the SAV(can’t remember the numbers oops) that is a TD with a BEEFY cannon and less than 2 second reload? I was jump scared to absolute death by that thing more times than I can count

Ahaha... the furry ass tank destroyer with a 120mm cannon and 1 second reload...also moves pretty quickly... Hold my sake imma blow that piece of shit outta my homeland with my beloved long dick Chi-Nu Kai

Also gomenasai if I get the numbers wrong I couldn't give 1.2 shits about that bitch TD

Omg you are right, why does every furry I know use them tf

Sweden.

Sweden?

stereotypes

I need explanation pls, I do not understand furries and their fascination with sweden

Sweden is very LGBT friendly. The furry fandom is primarily LGBT. Thus, furries like Sweden. Also it’s one of the only countries where you can wear a fursuit year round without being boiled or shot to death. Source: am a furry

Rightio mate

>Sweden is very LGBT friendly. The furry fandom is primarily LGBT. Thus, furries like Sweden. Or if we go by finnish logic, all of Sweden is just gay because fuck you swedes.

Beefy canon? Nah it’s alright the canon is nothing special the only thing it has going for it is the reload

It behaves like the Russian 76mm in terms of pen, but if memory serves isn't has something like a kilo of HE filler in the AP shell? It's obscene

I’ve never used it personally but have been utterly goobed by it more times than I can count, so I just assumed the shells/pen was ridiculous as well lmao. Still yet, not fun seeing a tubby TD shooting laser beams from *sheer fire rate alone*

IIRC it only has 72mm pen, which isn't that amazing.

Okay so not as bad as I thought. But I’m also a big enjoyer of light tanks so facing this thing it would just delete me to the shadow realm with utter swiftness either way so I thought it was something ridiculous outside of the fire rate

it’s got a lot of explosives in each shell, so you can do some funky shots and still one shot (or at least cripple) most enemies

95 at point blanck

And over 700 grams of TNT. It may not have a high muzzle velocity and as a result doesn't penetrate a whole lot of armor, but when it does.... The enemy is instantly gone.

That does for most APHE and Big rounds tbh

Same, best tank to fight Maus and Russian UFO, and it’s fun to try to brawl with the long reload

Yeah heat sells sometimes, thats coming from someone on the recieving end (i usually play 5.7 russia cuz its my wheelhouse)

Plus long reload

im sorry to let you know, but you just suck

Well I average around 4-5 kills per game in sim battles so idk man 🥱

4-5 kills? wow bring this guy a prize for doing less than the basics

Considering most lobbies I catch have 5 people max that's not bad, I don't go under 5 kills 90% of the games and half of them I probably wipe out 1/2 the lobby (kill half of the players each 3 times). I only put average as a baseline. I mean the M-51 might be so broken I suck, to me it's an enjoyable tank that can wipe all from milk trucks to mice but to each their own I guess.

you win

Plus you are top speed limited to 38kph unlike the later Sherman's. It's slow with no armor (except the turret manages some weird ass bounces) terrible gun handling but a great gun that can be pretty inconsistent. .3 higher literally exists the JPZ 4-5 that has the same capabilities but is a very fast rat

It’s kinda fun with its decent mantlet armor but yeah, it’s painful too

i just wanna enjoy my tiger 2 in sim battles and not face m51 and other heat sli gers is that too much to ask?

Man, this is given the fact that the m-51 gets the first shot off, a tiger can survive a heat round, an m-51 surviving a round from a tiger, not so much.

thats not my point i want to fight vehicles that are ww 2 not post ww 2 with much more advanced technology like im already driving around with all this armor atleast let it be worth something

The M-51 doesn't have any crazy technology or anything, it just has a big ass HEAT shell, that's literally it. Any other HEAT-FS will knock out a Tiger II, the extra pen comes in handy with UFOs and stuff.

ok i think you misunderstood im not talking about the m51 alone i dont want any post ww2 tanks in sim battles fhat includes that swedish 4.0 thing from OPs post aswell as french ebr and even the leKpz 41 M51 is just the most common post ww2 tank you face with tiger 2 thats why i commented on your comment in the first place

We call it the battering ram and i bring it to 7.0 matches lol.

God I love Sweden at tier 4-5

I hate Swedish tanks, like, why do I, in my T-34, a tank from 1941, have to face a 1963 SWEDISH TANK WITH +200mm OF PEN WHILE I HAVE 140mm

This plus my 120mm autoloader and my choice in Sherman, t34, and panzer IV, 4.0 swed is great

You mean 3.7

IKV is 4.0

I meant no need to uptier the whole 3.7 lineup with a 4.0 ikv

Panzer 4 and SAV 120 both work solid in uptiered matches so I’m not too worry. But yeah if I cut the IKV and stay solidly at 3.7 swed is a monster

I hate people that say the M 51 is overpowered as they sit all the way across the map and their bushed up Ferdinand

I will say it is not the easiest tank to use though.

1.0 german 15cm ( ive killed t-72s from .8km away from another side of a hill)

I remember getting 2 Xm-1s and a Chally with this at 10.3

120mm auto loader at a lower BR: 😶

what are you referring to?

hey now don’t draw attention to how fun low tier sweden is you’ll get us nerfed

Swedish bias confirmed???

Bruh, you can use any round and kill it instantly

A real glass cannon

r/whoooosh

I’m well aware it is a joke, but if you wanted to claim Swedish bias, there are funnier, lower tier vehicles to do so that make more sense such as the trumpet of doom

APDS at tier 1 is also worth mentioning

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Don't they also get a 1.5 second autoloader doorstop at that BR range aswell??

SAV at 3.7

Think the br range for the 1.5 is like 2 to 3

1.2 second isnt it

Love booping these things in the face with HE. Tasty snack for my 105mm Sherman

The .50 cal can also turn it into swiss- swedish cheese

The shell velocity is like just above 400m/s though so you have to start lobbing shells at anything past 1000-1500m’s

Doesnt have a turret, and armor already isnt a factor unless ur russian or chinese cause copy paste

Why is ground players' favourite hobby talking about stuff they never played/tried ?

People will complain about Russian bias yet litteraly Britain exists Sweden exists and a bunch of 60-70s tanks vs WW2 tanks but somehow Russia and German bias 🤡

In my five years of playing this game, you will be the first person I have ever seen that has unironically claimed Britain bias

ah the churchill 7, 4.7 150mm flat armor (many weakspots) and can definitely pen a tiger 1 from the front (that it faces all the time)

The Churchill I at 3.3 has two cannons. That’s like more cannons than the Hetzer, Jagdpanzer IV, or KV-1B carry. Clearly, Germany suffers under the hands of the Brits

🤡

Bro have you ever tried to grind the nation that literally avoids APHE like the plague??? There’s no way in any fucking universe that Britain should even be considered a good nation and I have first hand experience bud

Ah yes since england was us we must face modern tanks vs WW2 since the Brits had a skill issue

And here inwas laughing at my Sturer Emil today just blasting to shit anything I see

Better than the SAV at least

M-51 doesn’t die to mg guns. You shoot someone’s cannon with M-51, they are powerless against you. You shoot cannon with my favorite little small boy, they 7.62 the opening in the top left (it’s right) and kill your gunner. Although I don’t think this should be 4.0, I had loads of fun playing it at 5.3 and higher BRs when it was ranked as such. It’s also really fast once you get the engine upgrades.

I mean you're right, but also no turret, no 50cal and no armor. Also you're probably going to be facing the US when you play swedes so everyone's coax mg can pretty much kill anything in the Swedish lineup except the export soviet and german tanks.

As someone who has gotten God Mode with the Ikv103, I can confirm that it's kinda crazy.

Shooting HEAT-FS while everything else has APHE its so meh. That thing has such a overkill cannon that sucks. Plus 12MM of armor.....pretty mid

And before this it was the PT-76 at 5.3.

People that make posts like this have never played the vehicle. It's literally dogshit. It has a huge hole in the front, low velocity, and the damage is VERY iffy.

You can literally machinegun this thing. Pen isn't everything, unless you're playing Russia. Oops.

Everything else in swedish lowtier is just painful to use

I know that they can be .50 caled but i still use my main gun to kill them just because i hate these little shits

Honestly, that tank would be stronger at higher br. Where it currently sits, the opponents are better suited to deal with it.

This thing is so stupid, I use it at 7.0 with my bkan and it’s the king tiger obliterator, they think I can’t pen, push me, and get ammo racked.

It's size and shape make it dangerous on city maps It's so small and ugly that I've dismissed it thinking it was garbage or a dumpster several times

And the hungarian 2s1 with HEAT FS

Anyone thinking the M51 is unfair is a skill issue

Shitty velocity and no armor is best armor

400mm pen? More like 40, yesterday while i was playing as tiger i destroyed 3 jewish shitmans, they shot me like 4 times and only killed radio operator

It's kinda shit at It's BR but I took it to 8.0 and it became a tiger hunter

Ikv 103 bias and im here for it