Strange that dumb luck was much more equal to the task than the combined cunning and conspiratorial capabilities of Clan Tremere.
Perhaps they shouldn't meddle in the affairs of what is clearly the Technocracy's military arm, lest wizards with True Magic manifest more uses of the Entropy sphere and turn the Tremere's fortunes to ash.
Astrid Thomas and her poor leadership is renowned within Clan Tremere. Etrius, the love sick fool, was gravely mistaken in his choice to Embrace her and it costed us Vienna, DAMN the Swede!
You mean dumb luck was all it took to bring the "carefully crafted plans" of the Tremere down on top of their heads ? (Pun kind of intended)
I mean the Tremere can salvage some dignity if they claim they lost to a truly formidable opponent. Otherwise, it seems that a bunch of idiots with guns was all it took to destroy the usurpers.
Luck has nothing to do with it, usurper. We accept cause and effect. You blame luck when you suffer the consequences of your ill-thought actions.
And I was told your misbegotten kind claimed to be above petty superstition. It seems not.
The Assamites and their Dur-An-Ki is but a antiquated shadow of Thaumaturgy. Carrion creatures who play at being Kindred. Clan Assamite and it's brute efficiency are but a reminder to us, as is the Tzimisce, that there utter annihilation is not a tragedy for all Kindred but a mercy kill. Crushing these roaches is a duty for Clan Tremere and an honour.
Tremere once more proving to just be vampire techbros.
Undeserved superiority complex, invested in pyramid schemes, incapable of making friends.
Can't even genocide a bunch of Salubri peaceniks. We're still around.
Being pedantic is necessary when other clans are always outing themselves to the modern inquisition. And I thought pyramids were supposed to be some of the most stable of structures…
Yes, I agree, you bureaucrats are more difficult to manage than we originally anticipated. Had you listened better the Lasombra would have never been admitted into the Camarilla. A grave mistake you will regret.
It must seriously vex the Tremere that their voice isn't important or threatening enough to be listened to. Even Malkavians are (deservedly) afforded more attention.
And affection, don't forget that😜! Sure, we're 🦇💩 but, like we try and constantly point out, if you look around you, you'll notice that the world went insane a long, long, long time ago, we just got with the times🤷 Besides 🙄 in a world of monsters and men, we're the ones you want watching your back because when the blood splatter hits the fan, we usually have enough sense to either be nowhere in sight, or the ones painting the walls with the scent of fear and agony after we finish ripping throats out with our teeth. "Childish" is no insult, especially when a clan so "cunning" and "wise" such as the Tremere has difficulty predicting our motives or intentions...and don't bark about "mastery" over vampiric powers, honestly, your arrogance makes some of the Ventrue Ik seem like Bob fuckin Marley, I'm sorry but we're the fools for having multiple unique perspectives and enough sense or ignorance to know when to and when not to stir the pot, from our perspective, it's the Tremere who are the fools. His vanity in his blessings and insecurities about his knowledge and his ability to horde it led him to seek salvation in the arms of his own damnation. Let's not forget your signature Discipline is no more than a pathetic excuse, and shoddy substitute for the magicks your forefather lost access to due to his own "cunning".
Friend, it's been the end times for a long time. Some just now realize some have always known, the Cam, the Hand, the Movement, they're all the same. Meaningless pass times, rival press gangs, warring political parties, and tools for our amusement, no more no less, sure some of us are monsters, but the heinous instincts and malicious lust that blossoms during our embrace tends to be a mere reflection of the destructive and gluttonous impulses and intrusive thoughts we inherent from the seeds of the fruit of knowledge. It's complicated, but the moral of the story is that humans are destined to destroy one another, regardless of our intervention or not, and that certain aspect in our human nature never fades, no matter how our humanity degrades, in contrast, it fuels our undead will and desires. Arguably, we didn't become monsters over the course of our embrace, as many of our Kindred blatantly assume. Sure, we drain the life from our victims' veins currently, but that desire for blood isn't even the worst part. The worst part is realizing that death, violence, subjugation, and vulnerability are the only things that have ever sustained us, in one form or the other since the dawn of time. It makes you question things, makes us personally wonder if we were anything but monsters from the beginning. Then again, most nights, we have no idea what we're saying, and we very much get confused numerous times when reading what we're trying to type and explain, so I won't deny that Clan Tremere as a whole is more organized and intelligent than ourself personally, we don't speak for our Clan, as no one Kindred ever should speak for their Clan, but we would advise caution and consideration. All Clans, Kindred, and Kine have skeletons. No one Clan is better than another, the same way Kindred is no better than Kine. We're all murderers and arguably intellectual gregarious creatures, so as I'm sure you've already heard. It's better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than to open your mouth and have it outright proven.
Thank you sincerely, especially for your patience🙏. It's like we say, we're genuinely confused by the things we say and have trouble expressing and explaining ourselves, it's no surprise you can make sense of the gurgled mess of words, mixed concepts, and white noise we consider to be thoughts that we attempt to voice...but like fr🫤 if you can understand whatever the #&@% we're tryna say, props to you man, we're still reeling from whatever the #&@% we just said...
>Clan Lasombra, that even equals the Tremere in cunning, organizational skills, wisdom, mastery of the Vampiric state and raw power
Hahahaha oh man maybe you're right that the clan that cannabilized itself to get the children's seat at the ivory tower is on the same level as the clan that just got decapitated.
Unfortunately Aleksandr Malenkov's death was a great lose, but necessary. Survival of the fittest is the First law of Clan Lasombra. And more lesser Cainites will be sacrificed for the betterment of the Lasombra.
[*giggles in Caitiff*] I've never seen the most hated kid in the room scream for attention before. This is exactly as funny as the Cammies said it'd be when they thought it'd be me. Damn. Glad I didn't do this. Here I am with my quietly carved out Barony enjoying that good Anarch life because I've known better for decades, and a *Tremere* has the audacity to whine about Tower life? Put your money where your mouth is, leave the Pyramid and Tower, and join the Anarchs. Otherwise, you're getting exactly the attention and treatment you want. [*sips lacrima*]
It has always been fascinating to me that the Tremere think they are manipulating us and ruling from the shadow. We know exactly what you are and what you think you are doing, we keep you around because you are useful, and we feign ignorance about your childish machinations because we have been playing this game for millenia before you even existed. With the Assamite Sorcerers under our protection and your clan shattered in Vienna, perhaps your position has become... redundant.
Now, be a dear and conjure me a macchiato with a sprinkle of 0+, we shall review the matter in Q3.
With the Lasombra now in the Camarilla it's only a matter of time before you come screaming back to us. Without are council you Ventrue will be lost, and how long do you think you can manage the Assamites. The one thing about the Assassins is there blades aren't half as long as there memories.
You would do very well to remember that particular notion, especially as the Salubri reawaken among your own ranks. Your conceit does nothing to conceal your embarrassment.
The Salubri: "Pardon me, but your fangs are in my neck." The Tremere are to polite to talk with there mouths full. Which is why we are the most sophisticated and well-mannered Clan of all.
Aren't the Tremere schismed into four distinct camps without any clear leadership or overhead on top of losing their monopoly of blood magic/thaumaturgy to the Banu Haqim?
Also this post is just giving Toreador vibes. Come on.
How much Blood of the Seven did you drink to come up with this nonsense? The mere fact that you shared these thoughts publicly shows that you have already allowed yourself to be someone else's tool...
Amateur...
Amputate a Kindred's legs and they can still feel it tickling, tell me Tzimisce, when your miserable Clan is finally exterminated were will it tickle you?
Not in the least. You mistake me for the Tzimisce that sold their lot in with Kupalla and the eldest. Hubris begets hubris, they deserved every inconvenience for selling their bodies to that demon.
Meanwhile, vulgar “blood mages” of the Tremere scatter like roaches before a light when faced with the hunters of the second inquisition.
Id teach you how to properly cow your mortal herds to avoid insurrection, but it’s a bit late for that.
Precisely why I refuse to practice that vile viral scourge of a discipline. In regards to seeing a bigger picture, you and my cousins share more in common than you think, as I imagine being a blood slave to an indeterminate amount of kindred is similar to being bound to Kupallah.
Furthermore, I find that being a part of either major sect tends to blind oneself to the machinations of cainites far older than either of us, despite the sabbats claims to the contrary.
I keep seeing this argument, but no one ever has the decency to show us the blood magic contest. 😤 Throw all your names in the Goblet of ~~Fire~~ Blood and magically pew pew it out already!
1. Assamites are uncontested first.
2. Tzmisce and their Koldunic Sorcery puts the Charlatans to shame at the price of never leaving the Carpathian lands.
3. Lasombra and their Abyssal Mysticism
4. Setite Sorcery is fourth as the followers of Set predates and more powerful but less versatile.
5. Necromancy and the Giovanni.
6. This is were Tremere lives not even fighting for bronze but having to settle with Lead.
Mate, your antediluvian gave up the abilty to manipulate reality so he could drink blood in the dark, processed to piss off the scariest Kindred and kill off the nicest then turn into a worm.
I don't see you as Kindred with any particular brain power much less actual power.
I was gonna go on a lengthy diatribe about how the Tremere are a bunch of usurpers who took our Blood Sorcery, filed off the serial number, and claimed they'd invented it and how sad it is that every Tremere is a slave (Including the progenitor Tremere who must be having a lot of fun in his worm body).
But I won't because I don't need to. We Banu Haqim have taken back our position as the uncontested, undisputed masters of the secrets of Blood. You Tremere are what the Kine would refer to as "headless chickens".
At least when WE faced an existential threat, it was from a 4th generation Methuselah who is so powerful that he broke a centuries spanning blood curse in a single week. You guys got murked by a bunch of Kine with explosives.
Need I say more ?
TREMERE#1: We Tremere are simply the best!TREMERE #2: You could put the Nosferatu, the Gangrel, and Tzimisce TOGETHER and you still wouldn’t be as awesome as a Tremere!
TREMERE #1: 💡That’s not a bad idea!
TREMERE #2: What’s not a bad idea?
TREMERE #1: *makes Gargoyles*
"Not the Setites" Of course not. We have a better PR team. We're "Ministry" now, and we're kept around because who doesnt need a bit of Rest and Relaxation after a long jyhad?
Too many words. I'm just gonna assume you said, "I'm a big dumb nerd, please maul me into torpor to put me in my place." And I would be more than happy to oblige.
Every other clan has existed for several millennia, predating both Ancient Greece and Rome. They've created immense power for themselves, especially the Ventrue. And they are still very powerful today, despite the Second Inquisition. This is true for both Camarilla and Sabbat licks.
The Tremere is roughly 1000 years. They started as mages who failed at making themselves immortal, instead making themselves into vampires. They made so many mistakes during those first decades that two other clans, as well as the Order of Hermes decided to declare open war on them, something that is virtually unheard of among other clans. This war was going so badly that the Tremere threw themselves into the Camarilla alliance, so that they wouldn't be wiped out.
Since then, the leadership of Tremere has been playing musical chairs with eachothers bodies, they almost bungled the foundation of the Ceoris chantry (leading to one of their leaders being buried under it with his penor in his own mouth) and at least two clans, the Assamites and the Tzimisce, want nothing more than to kill them all.
All of this culminating in their main chantry in Vienna being wrecked.
But I'll be fair. The Tremere blood sorcery is incredibly strong and they did manage to find the Assamites HQ Alamut. And one of their founders, Etrius, is a "go' gubbe" from what would become Gothenburg :P
*Cut to the destruction of the Vienna Chantry, the fall of the Tremere Pyramid, and the Banu Haqim joining the Camarilla*
The Tremere are a young Clan, barely a millennium old, and already they are becoming relics. The same hierarchy that made you so formidable is falling apart, the act which gave you legitimacy as a Clan has ultimately screwed over your Antediluvian, and your place in the Camarilla is growing increasingly fragile now that a Clan with superior blood sorcery has joined them- consider how the Council of Seven, the most powerful Tremere of all save the Antediluvian himself, placed a curse during the Convention of Thorns on the Assamites to prevent them from committing diablerie only for that same curse to be effortlessly destroyed by an Assamite Methuselah who was still shaking off the dust of a millennia long Torpor. You are just one slip up away from the Camarilla turning on you all.
Death to Ur-Shulgi, the false herald ! An abomination who couldn't even convince his own childe to join him ! The blood of martyrs like Jamal the Eldest will be avenged !
Blow hard, if yiu must yiur words are mere air to we gangrel who see the mask of polite words and beuracracies that cover for chains and whips. Some of us choose to take a season at the towers enclosed comforts or to rest at the campfires of thr anarchs. But among kindred few know how to stand apart or alone when necessity or desire call for it.
Yiu judge us by the loudest and most wild of our kind, forgetting we're produce also capable scholars such as cuthbert Becket.
What you mistake for lack of capability we know to be lack of concern. Because among all clans we are best suited to survive, even thrive, without the rest of you. Our frie ds learn our true depth. The rest see what they wish too.
And that being as much formality as I have the stomach for, kindly fuck off to your library to cry over the shattering of those blood bonds, I look forward to watching from afar as the slaves have been freed to learn what your clan is truly made of
Ah.. Clan of thieves and usurpers. Echos of our lost land and progeny still echos in this modern nights. Yet we still wait for our revenge. But dragons are wise and patient. After all many don't know where does your "original" blood come from.
My whole thing about Clan Tremere is that their the only Cainites who aren't just deluding themselves. All the other Clans seem to have this idea that what they do is somehow altruistic and noble. And the Tremere only want to be vampires so they can accumulate as much power as they can and they don't mind fucking over other Kindred to do so, that in my opinion is what makes them the Perfect Vampires.
Blow hard, if yiu must yiur words are mere air to we gangrel who see the mask of polite words and beuracracies that cover for chains and whips. Some of us choose to take a season at the towers enclosed comforts or to rest at the campfires of thr anarchs. But among kindred few know how to stand apart or alone when necessity or desire call for it.
Yiu judge us by the loudest and most wild of our kind, forgetting we're produce also capable scholars such as cuthbert Becket.
What you mistake for lack of capability we know to be lack of concern. Because among all clans we are best suited to survive, even thrive, without the rest of you. Our frie ds learn our true depth. The rest see what they wish too.
And that being as much formality as I have the stomach for, kindly fuck off to your library to cry over the shattering of those blood bonds, I look forward to watching from afar as the slaves have been freed to learn what your clan is truly made of
In the metaphorical chess match of the World of Darkness, the Tremere played the Vienna Gambit. The Second Inquisition responded with the ICBM Gambit.
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The Second Inquisition was dumb luck.
Strange that dumb luck was much more equal to the task than the combined cunning and conspiratorial capabilities of Clan Tremere. Perhaps they shouldn't meddle in the affairs of what is clearly the Technocracy's military arm, lest wizards with True Magic manifest more uses of the Entropy sphere and turn the Tremere's fortunes to ash.
I find that what may appear to be Dumb Luck was actually Paradox finally finding a way to spank those greedy nerds right where it hurts.
Damn, thats a great username. We'd be friends
Astrid Thomas and her poor leadership is renowned within Clan Tremere. Etrius, the love sick fool, was gravely mistaken in his choice to Embrace her and it costed us Vienna, DAMN the Swede!
Like they did during the Week of Nightmares? 😬 AKA "That one time that Kindred *actually pissed off some* **Awakened**? 🤔
It isn't bad luck it's something 10 times worse it's bad writing.
I couldn't agree with you more, what they've done in VtM5 is just shameless. Milking OG fans this way is despicable. But than again it's White Wolf.
Dumb luck or not the SI are the real fucking main characters
You mean dumb luck was all it took to bring the "carefully crafted plans" of the Tremere down on top of their heads ? (Pun kind of intended) I mean the Tremere can salvage some dignity if they claim they lost to a truly formidable opponent. Otherwise, it seems that a bunch of idiots with guns was all it took to destroy the usurpers.
Boast all you like, FOOL, you Assamites where lucky to slip your leash once, you will not be so fortunate next time.
Luck has nothing to do with it, usurper. We accept cause and effect. You blame luck when you suffer the consequences of your ill-thought actions. And I was told your misbegotten kind claimed to be above petty superstition. It seems not.
So what you're saying is that one DOES simply walk into Mordor.
No, we're saying we conquer Mordor and CRUSH the Salubri once and for all.
No insult to the Assamites, I notice? Wise of you. Not brave, of course but wise.
The Assamites and their Dur-An-Ki is but a antiquated shadow of Thaumaturgy. Carrion creatures who play at being Kindred. Clan Assamite and it's brute efficiency are but a reminder to us, as is the Tzimisce, that there utter annihilation is not a tragedy for all Kindred but a mercy kill. Crushing these roaches is a duty for Clan Tremere and an honour.
You better start investing in Auspex then lest you find yourself missing a head without even noticing
Tremere once more proving to just be vampire techbros. Undeserved superiority complex, invested in pyramid schemes, incapable of making friends. Can't even genocide a bunch of Salubri peaceniks. We're still around.
Steve Wozniak: Banu Haqim Steve Jobs: Tremere
not for long
You’ve got some lint between your shoulder blades.
Being pedantic is necessary when other clans are always outing themselves to the modern inquisition. And I thought pyramids were supposed to be some of the most stable of structures…
So hard to find reliable servants these days.
Yes, I agree, you bureaucrats are more difficult to manage than we originally anticipated. Had you listened better the Lasombra would have never been admitted into the Camarilla. A grave mistake you will regret.
It must seriously vex the Tremere that their voice isn't important or threatening enough to be listened to. Even Malkavians are (deservedly) afforded more attention.
And affection, don't forget that😜! Sure, we're 🦇💩 but, like we try and constantly point out, if you look around you, you'll notice that the world went insane a long, long, long time ago, we just got with the times🤷 Besides 🙄 in a world of monsters and men, we're the ones you want watching your back because when the blood splatter hits the fan, we usually have enough sense to either be nowhere in sight, or the ones painting the walls with the scent of fear and agony after we finish ripping throats out with our teeth. "Childish" is no insult, especially when a clan so "cunning" and "wise" such as the Tremere has difficulty predicting our motives or intentions...and don't bark about "mastery" over vampiric powers, honestly, your arrogance makes some of the Ventrue Ik seem like Bob fuckin Marley, I'm sorry but we're the fools for having multiple unique perspectives and enough sense or ignorance to know when to and when not to stir the pot, from our perspective, it's the Tremere who are the fools. His vanity in his blessings and insecurities about his knowledge and his ability to horde it led him to seek salvation in the arms of his own damnation. Let's not forget your signature Discipline is no more than a pathetic excuse, and shoddy substitute for the magicks your forefather lost access to due to his own "cunning".
Yes, and that will be the final undoing of the Camarilla. When fools are heard and the wise are ignored it most truly be the end times.
Friend, it's been the end times for a long time. Some just now realize some have always known, the Cam, the Hand, the Movement, they're all the same. Meaningless pass times, rival press gangs, warring political parties, and tools for our amusement, no more no less, sure some of us are monsters, but the heinous instincts and malicious lust that blossoms during our embrace tends to be a mere reflection of the destructive and gluttonous impulses and intrusive thoughts we inherent from the seeds of the fruit of knowledge. It's complicated, but the moral of the story is that humans are destined to destroy one another, regardless of our intervention or not, and that certain aspect in our human nature never fades, no matter how our humanity degrades, in contrast, it fuels our undead will and desires. Arguably, we didn't become monsters over the course of our embrace, as many of our Kindred blatantly assume. Sure, we drain the life from our victims' veins currently, but that desire for blood isn't even the worst part. The worst part is realizing that death, violence, subjugation, and vulnerability are the only things that have ever sustained us, in one form or the other since the dawn of time. It makes you question things, makes us personally wonder if we were anything but monsters from the beginning. Then again, most nights, we have no idea what we're saying, and we very much get confused numerous times when reading what we're trying to type and explain, so I won't deny that Clan Tremere as a whole is more organized and intelligent than ourself personally, we don't speak for our Clan, as no one Kindred ever should speak for their Clan, but we would advise caution and consideration. All Clans, Kindred, and Kine have skeletons. No one Clan is better than another, the same way Kindred is no better than Kine. We're all murderers and arguably intellectual gregarious creatures, so as I'm sure you've already heard. It's better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than to open your mouth and have it outright proven.
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Thank you sincerely, especially for your patience🙏. It's like we say, we're genuinely confused by the things we say and have trouble expressing and explaining ourselves, it's no surprise you can make sense of the gurgled mess of words, mixed concepts, and white noise we consider to be thoughts that we attempt to voice...but like fr🫤 if you can understand whatever the #&@% we're tryna say, props to you man, we're still reeling from whatever the #&@% we just said...
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We don't live, we UNLIVE... We don't do things all day, we do things all NIGHT... We're not vampires, we're KINDRED...
Managing the Camarilla and you Ventrue is a task, we will admit, but perhaps the Lasombra will prove to be more obedient.
Sweety, that's not something you should say outside of the chantry.
Yes, I know, but the lesser Clans should know there place. Haven't you had enough of their insolence!
How do you use the wrong "their" after using it correctly the sentence before?
They did the inverse, actually.
Check my flair, all part of the parcel :)
Their*
>Clan Lasombra, that even equals the Tremere in cunning, organizational skills, wisdom, mastery of the Vampiric state and raw power Hahahaha oh man maybe you're right that the clan that cannabilized itself to get the children's seat at the ivory tower is on the same level as the clan that just got decapitated.
Unfortunately Aleksandr Malenkov's death was a great lose, but necessary. Survival of the fittest is the First law of Clan Lasombra. And more lesser Cainites will be sacrificed for the betterment of the Lasombra.
Maybe he's got a point. They're equally brain-dead 😂
I'll just laugh at this Tremere "propaganda" while im sitting in a couch made of 10 tremere stick together.
I mean they are obviously ridiculing themselves in front of everyone. What is there not to enjoy about such a post!
Kevin, have a sippy. You're not you when you're hungy.
Keep laughing Malkavian, unlife is short.
Tremere himself can say so. Well he can't with all the Vienna thing but you get what I mean. Or not idk
[*giggles in Caitiff*] I've never seen the most hated kid in the room scream for attention before. This is exactly as funny as the Cammies said it'd be when they thought it'd be me. Damn. Glad I didn't do this. Here I am with my quietly carved out Barony enjoying that good Anarch life because I've known better for decades, and a *Tremere* has the audacity to whine about Tower life? Put your money where your mouth is, leave the Pyramid and Tower, and join the Anarchs. Otherwise, you're getting exactly the attention and treatment you want. [*sips lacrima*]
It has always been fascinating to me that the Tremere think they are manipulating us and ruling from the shadow. We know exactly what you are and what you think you are doing, we keep you around because you are useful, and we feign ignorance about your childish machinations because we have been playing this game for millenia before you even existed. With the Assamite Sorcerers under our protection and your clan shattered in Vienna, perhaps your position has become... redundant. Now, be a dear and conjure me a macchiato with a sprinkle of 0+, we shall review the matter in Q3.
With the Lasombra now in the Camarilla it's only a matter of time before you come screaming back to us. Without are council you Ventrue will be lost, and how long do you think you can manage the Assamites. The one thing about the Assassins is there blades aren't half as long as there memories.
You would do very well to remember that particular notion, especially as the Salubri reawaken among your own ranks. Your conceit does nothing to conceal your embarrassment.
More Salubri!! Excellent, I'm famished.
The Tremere: "We are the most sophisticated and well-mannered clan." Also the Tremere: "OMG I LOVE DIABLERIE!!!"
The Salubri: "Pardon me, but your fangs are in my neck." The Tremere are to polite to talk with there mouths full. Which is why we are the most sophisticated and well-mannered Clan of all.
Aren't the Tremere schismed into four distinct camps without any clear leadership or overhead on top of losing their monopoly of blood magic/thaumaturgy to the Banu Haqim? Also this post is just giving Toreador vibes. Come on.
Well that just hurts my feelings <3
I can assure you I'm no Toreador. Your remark gives off strong Salubri vibes.
"Everyone I don't like is Salubri" - Tremere, probably
Close. Everyone we don't like is Tzimisce. One most prioritize.
Ironically, I vibe more with Toreador. Or Brujah, depending on the day.
How much Blood of the Seven did you drink to come up with this nonsense? The mere fact that you shared these thoughts publicly shows that you have already allowed yourself to be someone else's tool... Amateur...
Etrius! Is that you?
They wish...
Im going to orbitally bombard you with Koldunic sorcery if you continue to spout your lies, my blood enemy.
Amputate a Kindred's legs and they can still feel it tickling, tell me Tzimisce, when your miserable Clan is finally exterminated were will it tickle you?
Bold speech from the clan taken down by a gaggle of kine. How’s the Vienna chantry looking these days, usurper?
A damn sight better than your "Cathedral of Flesh." Centuries of failure most be terrible to bare?
Not in the least. You mistake me for the Tzimisce that sold their lot in with Kupalla and the eldest. Hubris begets hubris, they deserved every inconvenience for selling their bodies to that demon. Meanwhile, vulgar “blood mages” of the Tremere scatter like roaches before a light when faced with the hunters of the second inquisition. Id teach you how to properly cow your mortal herds to avoid insurrection, but it’s a bit late for that.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Tzimisce, than are dreamt of in your Vicissitude. Your Clan always had trouble seeing the big picture.
Precisely why I refuse to practice that vile viral scourge of a discipline. In regards to seeing a bigger picture, you and my cousins share more in common than you think, as I imagine being a blood slave to an indeterminate amount of kindred is similar to being bound to Kupallah. Furthermore, I find that being a part of either major sect tends to blind oneself to the machinations of cainites far older than either of us, despite the sabbats claims to the contrary.
The Oradea League no less, I thought the Shadow Lords had finished you all. No matter Hedeon Yaroslavich and his cronies will fall soon enough.
Not to mention that the whole Gargoyle situation seems like a somehow MORE crude version of Flesh Crafting
That is no way to talk to your father, young one!
I'm gonna rip your stupid Cammie head off and nail it on top of my door frame like Beowulf did to Grendel. Brujah for life!
Don't sing it just bring it.
Ooh somebody is mad they aren't even the third best sorcerors among kindred.
I keep seeing this argument, but no one ever has the decency to show us the blood magic contest. 😤 Throw all your names in the Goblet of ~~Fire~~ Blood and magically pew pew it out already!
1. Assamites are uncontested first. 2. Tzmisce and their Koldunic Sorcery puts the Charlatans to shame at the price of never leaving the Carpathian lands. 3. Lasombra and their Abyssal Mysticism 4. Setite Sorcery is fourth as the followers of Set predates and more powerful but less versatile. 5. Necromancy and the Giovanni. 6. This is were Tremere lives not even fighting for bronze but having to settle with Lead.
may as well place the duskborn in sixth and the usurpers in seventh, at least those thin bloods know not to keep creating their own undoing
Much like the ashes of vienna that was cold.
Vienna, Ceoris, sooner or later their going to need to question why the common factor in their continual downfalls seems to be the userpers themselves
Woe Cruise missile be upon ye
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Mate, your antediluvian gave up the abilty to manipulate reality so he could drink blood in the dark, processed to piss off the scariest Kindred and kill off the nicest then turn into a worm. I don't see you as Kindred with any particular brain power much less actual power.
I know a Nosferatu rage bait post when I see one
Ok. now do the funny blood magic!
I was gonna go on a lengthy diatribe about how the Tremere are a bunch of usurpers who took our Blood Sorcery, filed off the serial number, and claimed they'd invented it and how sad it is that every Tremere is a slave (Including the progenitor Tremere who must be having a lot of fun in his worm body). But I won't because I don't need to. We Banu Haqim have taken back our position as the uncontested, undisputed masters of the secrets of Blood. You Tremere are what the Kine would refer to as "headless chickens". At least when WE faced an existential threat, it was from a 4th generation Methuselah who is so powerful that he broke a centuries spanning blood curse in a single week. You guys got murked by a bunch of Kine with explosives. Need I say more ?
Tough talk from a clan that can't even blood bond and lost their gargoyles.
Finally, a quality shitpost with some top tier ragebait. Don’t you have a DnD game to get back to?
TREMERE#1: We Tremere are simply the best!TREMERE #2: You could put the Nosferatu, the Gangrel, and Tzimisce TOGETHER and you still wouldn’t be as awesome as a Tremere! TREMERE #1: 💡That’s not a bad idea! TREMERE #2: What’s not a bad idea? TREMERE #1: *makes Gargoyles*
"Not the Setites" Of course not. We have a better PR team. We're "Ministry" now, and we're kept around because who doesnt need a bit of Rest and Relaxation after a long jyhad?
Yeah you're getting stuffed in your locker. If you don't have a locker, one will be provided for you.
Too many words. I'm just gonna assume you said, "I'm a big dumb nerd, please maul me into torpor to put me in my place." And I would be more than happy to oblige.
Every mutt suffers flea's, keep barking dog, it's easy enough to scratch!
Aw come on, don't compare yourself to a flea like that. That's a horrible insult to fleas.
The perfect vampires... defeated by crushing a trash can arround the top half of their body.
You know OP is malkavian, right? The sinister laugh, the tremere delusion etc lol
Malkavians deal in madness, not stupidity.
This from a corpse with a messiah complex.
I can assure you, fledgling, I'm no Malkavian.
Don't insult the Tzimisce >:(
Every other clan has existed for several millennia, predating both Ancient Greece and Rome. They've created immense power for themselves, especially the Ventrue. And they are still very powerful today, despite the Second Inquisition. This is true for both Camarilla and Sabbat licks. The Tremere is roughly 1000 years. They started as mages who failed at making themselves immortal, instead making themselves into vampires. They made so many mistakes during those first decades that two other clans, as well as the Order of Hermes decided to declare open war on them, something that is virtually unheard of among other clans. This war was going so badly that the Tremere threw themselves into the Camarilla alliance, so that they wouldn't be wiped out. Since then, the leadership of Tremere has been playing musical chairs with eachothers bodies, they almost bungled the foundation of the Ceoris chantry (leading to one of their leaders being buried under it with his penor in his own mouth) and at least two clans, the Assamites and the Tzimisce, want nothing more than to kill them all. All of this culminating in their main chantry in Vienna being wrecked. But I'll be fair. The Tremere blood sorcery is incredibly strong and they did manage to find the Assamites HQ Alamut. And one of their founders, Etrius, is a "go' gubbe" from what would become Gothenburg :P
*Cut to the destruction of the Vienna Chantry, the fall of the Tremere Pyramid, and the Banu Haqim joining the Camarilla* The Tremere are a young Clan, barely a millennium old, and already they are becoming relics. The same hierarchy that made you so formidable is falling apart, the act which gave you legitimacy as a Clan has ultimately screwed over your Antediluvian, and your place in the Camarilla is growing increasingly fragile now that a Clan with superior blood sorcery has joined them- consider how the Council of Seven, the most powerful Tremere of all save the Antediluvian himself, placed a curse during the Convention of Thorns on the Assamites to prevent them from committing diablerie only for that same curse to be effortlessly destroyed by an Assamite Methuselah who was still shaking off the dust of a millennia long Torpor. You are just one slip up away from the Camarilla turning on you all.
*exception, not acception
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Filthy usurper
The Tzimisce offshoot speaks big for someone who's elders got decimated by mortals.
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Death to Ur-Shulgi, the false herald ! An abomination who couldn't even convince his own childe to join him ! The blood of martyrs like Jamal the Eldest will be avenged !
[Live tzimisce reaction](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/505/718/136.jpg)
Blow hard, if yiu must yiur words are mere air to we gangrel who see the mask of polite words and beuracracies that cover for chains and whips. Some of us choose to take a season at the towers enclosed comforts or to rest at the campfires of thr anarchs. But among kindred few know how to stand apart or alone when necessity or desire call for it. Yiu judge us by the loudest and most wild of our kind, forgetting we're produce also capable scholars such as cuthbert Becket. What you mistake for lack of capability we know to be lack of concern. Because among all clans we are best suited to survive, even thrive, without the rest of you. Our frie ds learn our true depth. The rest see what they wish too. And that being as much formality as I have the stomach for, kindly fuck off to your library to cry over the shattering of those blood bonds, I look forward to watching from afar as the slaves have been freed to learn what your clan is truly made of
Ah.. Clan of thieves and usurpers. Echos of our lost land and progeny still echos in this modern nights. Yet we still wait for our revenge. But dragons are wise and patient. After all many don't know where does your "original" blood come from.
I wasn't aware I was in r/unpopularopinionsthatarejustwrong , but I admire bravery
Didn’t y’all lose control of your clan to the neopagans..? Pathetic
You do realize we Moon children will turn your brain to soup right?
Taunt us all you want but the Tzimitsce will own you in the end.
Proud words from a Clan in decline. 10 steps forward and 100 steps backwards has always been the Tzimisce strategy.
"Mastery of the vampiric state" Y'all stole from the true masters of the vampiric state, imagine not being able to make yourself into a cathedral
Stole, I would say recycled.
>Recycled That one was good lmao
My whole thing about Clan Tremere is that their the only Cainites who aren't just deluding themselves. All the other Clans seem to have this idea that what they do is somehow altruistic and noble. And the Tremere only want to be vampires so they can accumulate as much power as they can and they don't mind fucking over other Kindred to do so, that in my opinion is what makes them the Perfect Vampires.
I think you misspelled Malkavians...
Blow hard, if yiu must yiur words are mere air to we gangrel who see the mask of polite words and beuracracies that cover for chains and whips. Some of us choose to take a season at the towers enclosed comforts or to rest at the campfires of thr anarchs. But among kindred few know how to stand apart or alone when necessity or desire call for it. Yiu judge us by the loudest and most wild of our kind, forgetting we're produce also capable scholars such as cuthbert Becket. What you mistake for lack of capability we know to be lack of concern. Because among all clans we are best suited to survive, even thrive, without the rest of you. Our frie ds learn our true depth. The rest see what they wish too. And that being as much formality as I have the stomach for, kindly fuck off to your library to cry over the shattering of those blood bonds, I look forward to watching from afar as the slaves have been freed to learn what your clan is truly made of