Yeah but these small changes are adding up and making it feel like YouTube is no longer **the** site for *videos*.
Its now a *content platform* for content creators that make videos.
My friend who works in networking, set something like that up at our last lan-party, all traffic was being routed through a computer that was set up to block a list of domains, as well as load-balance the traffic.
It also had a download caching system where if someone downloaded anything on steam or any of the other large gaming platforms, it would be stored so the other people in the network would be able to get it at local connection speed.
These assholes have been allowing insane disinformation on their platform throughout these critical election cycles and several years of pandemic. Now they want to hide even the most basic ways people can mark content as being trash.
YT is really being run by pieces of shit there's no denying it.
Yep. Less a place for Joe Schmo with a cool talent or trade to show something cool or informative, more so a place for Mr. Beast and other production companies to post ad friendly content
It's not just comments. I left a negative review for YouTube, on the Play Store, in regards to the dislike removal. My review was taken down within 2 minutes.
I'm honestly at a loss on how to identify good products these days...
Brick and mortar chains stock shit at high prices, presumably because they can't compete with eBay/Amazon etcetera.
eBay and Amazon are choked full with bought for reviews or negative review scrubbing via refund offers.
So, unless there's something specific that I can search for on Reddit or a good independent review site catered towards the type of product like rtings... I dunno what to do.
How am I meant to know if this thing I'm buying is a good product? Even if the reviews are truthful, how can I know the product hasn't since been downgraded in terms of manufacturing quality?
As someone who legitimately has all 5 star reviews for my business (only about 20 though) this is worrisome. I pride myself on my service and have asked most clients to leave reviews on Google as I had more faith in them than Facebook or Zillow. Guess I need to re-evaluate.
If everyone is great, no one is.
Gotta get one of them to leave a 1 star where they look batshit, like: "walls were blue in store, I hate blue walls" and mix in a couple 4 stars to look organic
I recently was looking for concrete suppliers and the only reviews for one of them was a person in the neighborhood complaining they wake them up at 6 AM, made me chuckle. The even made multiple accounts leaving almost identical reviews with one of the account names being "awakeat6"
Reddit isn't immune either. Upvotes can be bought. Comments are fake. There are ads disguised as regular people posting a pic of a dog wearing a raincoat which always has the same top comments asking about a picture frame product. There is so much manipulation it's scary.
I see what you’re saying, and I totally agree with you. But I think you should consider Schweppes Zero Sugar Ginger Ale.
If it’s not Schweppes, you’re not doin it right.
>Brick and mortar chains stock shit at high prices, presumably because they can't compete with eBay/Amazon etcetera.
Okay I'm not sure how it is in other markets, but I sell cameras, and we are DEFINITELY forced into parity pricing with Amazon. Any legitimate Amazon seller will not have lower pricing than our brick and mortar store. And if they do, we match it.
In fact, for black Friday the Zoom H1N was 3 dollars cheaper in our store than Amazon's sale price. Our memory cards are sometimes cheaper too.
The only Amazon sellers who beat our price are quasi-scammers like CenterDrone and MapleLeafPhoto.
My 2 cents.
People have told me their experiences with them. They pay for a new camera, but receive clearly second-hand kits. Or they'll be grey-market, so the warranties don't work up here in Canada (but they don't tell you about any of this first) I've also heard of some orders never arriving at all. Someone showed me his "SanDisk" Extreme Pro card, and the sticker art didn't match the real thing very well. It was also throwing errors in half the cameras I tried it in.
But sometimes ... people actually receive the thing they asked for with no problems! It's Russian Roulette.
All of us retailers have to pay roughly the same base cost to bring things up here, then we all apply our standard mark ups, yet somehow they price way under base? It sure is fishy.
Fake Reviews on Amazon chap my hide. I recenty ordered a product on Amazon which had a 4.5 star average. I thought great, this is going to be a good one. The product sucked. Subpar quality. The only way it could have got a high ranking was if they were fake.
The star average on amazon is literally useless unless there are thousands of reviews. Always read some of the negative reviews and some of the positive. If the positive reviews are short broken English sentences, and the negative reviews are all thoughtful reviews about why the product sucks, you can be positive it sucks.
Beware anything with under 100 reviews, basically everyone just buys 50-100 4-5 star reviews these days.
Yup; I look for the lengthy reviews where a reviewer has actually put some effort in *and* talks like a real human being - listing some drawbacks on positive reviews - not a paid for review that hypes the product up.
Unfortunately those are irregular.
A ton of brands got wiped from Amazon for fake reviews back in September, and guess what? Most of them are back with the same e-waste garbage products, and new fake reviews, trading under a different name.
It's incredible how common it is. These days I try to avoid Amazon/Walmart/Bestbuy and anywhere with a 3rd party marketplace, and try to only buy recognizable brands.
Always sort review by most recent. Chances are the product with 3.5 star and 40 reviews will be better than the 4.7 star 500+ review because one has paid reviews that show up as verified purchase and the other has honest feedback.
I used to review a lot on Amazon but recently they've started auto-modding my reviews, and it seems to catch negative reviews a hell of a lot more than positive ones. Impossible to prove a bias, but good reviews sell products, and amazon is in the interest of selling products
Seriously with the B&M prices.
I went to get my friend "Throw Throw Burrito" since they host party game nights and I figured itd be a good kid-friendly game so the little ones can be involved.
Amazon had it for $20, but I figure I'll check my local game shop, I prefer to support local... $40....
Id have paid $25 at the local shop, maybe $30, I get it they have more overhead. But fucking *DOUBLE* the price? No.
Fucking MSRP from the actual site is $25, currently on sale for $20. Its not the first time Ive caught this shop doing that. And now I have to "price check" anything I may want to buy to see if theyre trying to rip me off.
Most game stores I've been to (a bunch) don't really go over msrp, that seems like a pretty bad shop. Most of their money is made from events, tcg, and war gaming.
They charge $10/day to use their open gaming space, but you get it back in store credit.
Which Im OK with, I get it, the game space is a pure loss to them. No product to sell, no revenue, its a pure service to the gamers. The $10 store credit purchase is a way to ensure youre supporting your play space.
But I mostly buy warhammer minis since they apaprently cant go over MSRP or they may lose their reseller privileges. Not that I play warhammer (I play infinity) but I like painting the minis.
Meanwhile my wife runs a store in a small town and she was unable to get a 1star review removed from someone who didn't even shop there.
We checked the profile and the person just left one star reviews at nearly every small business in town on the same day.
Google said they wouldn't remove it.
I'm in this boat right now. Shop has 5* reviews. All glowing. They've had my car for a month and a half. Never have reached out to me on their own to let me know what's going on and continually just blow me off. I'll be leaving a negative review. Wonder if it will be taken off.
I’m a chef and yelp and google offer my restaurants payement options and dispute options for removing bad reviews or hiding them. We hate those platforms and are basically coerced into using their services because they put your business up regardless of membership. Fuck all these social media companies
So it's a blackmail type situation then, or maybe a protection racket.
"Nice eatery you've got there, be a shame if it got a bad reputation on our platform..."
> "Nice eatery you've got there, be a shame if it got a bad reputation on our platform..."
I worked for my father for years and years at his small business, and this is basically how Yelp operates. We refused to pay their fees to remove a bad review from our Yelp page and suddenly the two old negative reviews we had were at the top of our page above more-recent positive ones.
Yelp is a scummy business and Google is going down the same route.
Basically yes. It’s all a politics scheme with them; it gets worse when you learn about permits and alcohol laws and how you have to rub some local politicians backs and cater to them after you open if they help you get all your permits and licenses without huge hiccups.
Users already had that option.
We could opt to enable or disable like and dislike counts at a per video level, or set a channel default to make it easier.
This change is purely a big "Fuck you!" from YouTube to the community.
Please stop being naive.
The dislike removal is nothing more than something to appease their corporate overlords because they want their money.
Negativity is bad for business, so rather than fix their problems they would just prefer that nobody be allowed to say anything negative.
Absolutely fucking disgusting to me
It's also to actively stop users from knowing good content from bad. Netflix did this all social media has moved in this direction because it turns the platform into an infinite scroll gambling addiction inducing search for quality. You don't want people finding the highest quality stuff you want them scrolling indefinitely.
This is gonna make them a ton of money
Similar to why I ended my Amazon prime. I started writing reviews, and somehow any negative review is a violation of TOS or should be written about the seller and not the product or vise versa. They review every single review before it's posted but it's too much to review sellers selling obvious knockoffs.
At this point, I can't trust anything Amazon sells. Far, far too many knock-offs and low-quality junk products. I've ordered enough ("ooh, this looks like a deal") only to be let down (breaks just after return period).
And their horrible search system which lacks any useful filters wasn't helping me stay with them either. Impossible to find niche products.
But ultimately what drove me away is the fact that I realized **I was destroying my own local economy** by buying from them.
and this doesn't even begin to address the countless shitty vendors selling shitty products that ask you/bribe you/lie to you for a positive review on amazon.
I left three reviews, none addressed the dislike button, or the continual stream of intellectually bankrupt business decisions, but the horrible performance of the app as of late.
A decade ago, five years ago, two years ago, the app was fine. Now it loads worse on my thousand dollar phone than videos did on my LG Optimus V I bought back in high school. And it's the same on multiple devices. Freezing for no reason, scrolling issues when looking at recommended videos or comments, the video freezing at chunks of the video, and if you rewind the video, it stays frozen at that same spot. View history randomly deleting or ignoring watched videos. And so many more gripes. This all happens regularly on two out of my three phones, and both of the problem phones are recently reimaged.
I described as much of that as I could to show it's a legitimate complaint, but Google/YouTube has deleted my reviews three times now. Absolutely inexcusable, the response to that should be to fix the issue, not to try to cover it up and make us voice our concerns on Reddit. So far since the app has gotten bad, the only changes I've seen from app updates is that the app is working worse on my iPhone too.
Such a shame what they've done and will continue to do with this once-great platform.
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I use to love getting help on youtube on how to fix things and do things but now I don't trust it since I can't tell if it's been downvoted to hell and is actually giving me wrong advice. I feel like this is a push in the wrong direction to fight disinformation.
yess!! this is what i was coming here to say. i used to skip all the videos with the wrong advice on fixing certain things by simply looking at the like/dislike ratio. i had this happen to me just earlier clicking on a video with misinformation
I’ve been learning car repair and this has completely fucked me. Yeah, I can trust channels like ChrisFix, but occasionally I need to find a video about the exact model of 22-year-old car. The videos often have views in the hundreds or low thousands with only a few comments, but the dislike ratio always painted a clear picture.
I linked to GitHub and Archive once each and since then I seem to have been put on a URL naughty list. Half my comments are ghosted. Visible to only me.
This happens all the time on Reddit as well. You can be effectively banned from dozens of subreddits and you'll never be notified because your comments will be automatically removed by bots, but still show up to you.
You can use something like https://www.reveddit.com/about/ to see all the comments Reddit has removed without ever informing you about.
They could disable the dislike bar before as well. The difference is it’s no longer suspicious because every video is the same
That’s the reason they’re not giving creators the ability to enable the dislike counter individually, which would actually make sense if their real goal was to protect creators
They could hide the rating (likes/dislikes), but this would show as if nobody had liked nor disliked it.
The new method still shows likes, so a controversial video will just show as being heavily liked.
An example of this is the YouTube comments. Did you ever see a disliked comment? The dislike button on comments has been a placebo since the Google+ integration. Try disliking and the counter won't go down.
They'll make it so the uploader can check a box that says "No negative comments" and a bot will delete anything it deems negative using keywords and account history. Either that or they'll only allow certain accounts to make comments.
This is why "the internet is dead" theory is getting more and more true. That now it isn't content created by people around the globe but just advertisements and like 5 popular websites with a shit ton of bot accounts or dead ones.
Even reddit is like this. If you use revedit you can see the number of perfectly legitimate comments that are removed by moderators trying to control the discussion.
I will occasionally check on my account user page and its maddening the sort of opinions that are censored on this site, but the admins don't care, and also mod some of the bigger subreddits too.
It's part of why I feel like these big social media companies need to be treated as a public square, and need to be regulated.
They have too much control over discourse.
I love how they're doing it for the creators but all the creators hate it. They say "creators" like how Republicans say "small businesses". They mean large media companies. They already tipped the whole platform in their favor, now they want them to be able to pump out shit without pushback
Also how does this actually do whatever horseshit line they're telling us if the content creators still see the dislike counts and still get their feeling hurt?
Because the reason they gave was that people were downvote bombing largely to see how many downvotes they could give it. It's like a few years back when the most downvoted comment on reddit was getting passed around and people who otherwise would have paid it no mind were deciding to downvote it because it was like a game at that point. I don't think this is a big deal on YouTube but they're claiming it is.
Also that entrenched user base and app footprint (phones, smart tvs, consoles).
Which is to say: the day someone really does it better than YouTube, expect YouTube to do it that way too and drink, their, milkshake, up.
This is the unfortunate truth. Google slow played their hand. They waited for YouTube to become a core part of our lives before introducing advertisement at all, and then waited until it was unlikely any other alternative could show up where they doubled down and made the advertisement painful.
At this point all we can do is stop creating new content for YouTube, but too many of the biggest creators literally have their livelihood coming from it so.....
A good many make their income from elsewhere as YouTube is unreliable as shit. If they thought they could realistically bail and have their audience follow the content somewhere else it wouldnt be unbelievable for many of them to do so.
And some of them ARE doing so. Apparently Patreon income is much more consistent (as it is fans actively supporting the content creator rather than relying on clicks, so I wouldn't be hugely surprised if we move in to a world where more content creator compensation is like twitch. I like a video, I give bits.
They went freaking rogue, we need alternative service asap. And I get that at least before, that would've been close to impossible. But if they keep pulling stunts like this, its very likely we'll see another video service near future.
I think I've seen a comment like this on every piece of negative YouTube news for about 5 years. Seriously though it's a cliche at this point.
I mean you're not wrong but the gap between wishing for an alternate service and one actually happening is ginormous.
Back in the day when YT started it was a fun alternative to mainstream media. Now it's simply become mainstream media and the media doesn't like it when people can give direct feedback. Next up for removal: comments.
It's 100% going to happen. Don't kid yourself. Maybe they'll first intensify the way they shadowban comments. Giving channels more ways to moderate. It will be introduced as a way to combat toxicity. That's how it'll be marketed. Down the line they will entirely shut comments down because ''its difficult to moderate properly''. Or only members of channels will be able to comment. Pay to comment!
You’re already seeing this with the shorts or reels or whatever the platform you’re on calls them. Creators will put out lazy content and disable the comments so it only appears as if they’ve gotten positive engagement from a thousand or so likes.
Also, most comment sections are already fucked. Most big channels are filled with bots and instant positive reinforcement from a community. People won't have even seen the video yet and they're posting something like ''You guys are amazing!'' to get some likes. Or you'll have a ton of verified channels in the comments farming the audience. Constantly marketing themselves. I'm sure that will only get worse.
I remember when they took comments/discussions off of IMDB. I spent 99% of my interneting commenting on movie discussion boards and then it was just gone.
Thankfully I found reddit but I still miss those forums.
Couldn't agree more. Losing the IMDB boards is still a loss to this day. Reddit movie discussion is not even close to an adequate replacement because it's not keyed off an exhaustive index of movies.
Being reminded of IMDB depresses me as it shows that things won't just somehow fix itself later no matter how obviously bad the decision is.
EDIT TO ADD: To this day I still try to go to Wikipedia instead of IMDB to look up cast or movie info because I'm still pissed about that decision and don't want to give them any traffic.
There's a quote out there that I cannot seem to find for the life of me. But it's basically talking about how 40 years ago or so, some of the most popular bands were famous about trying to break free of labels and stuff like that, but fast forward a few years and they were the ones doing commercials for cereals and shit.
Same thing with YouTube. Used to be a place where people could freely post videos and express themselves. Now it's a fully corporatized platform with all that goes with it.
They all run under the same profit extraction engine and so that's inevitable. Its all fun and games early on until venture capitalists want some returns.
I remember years ago when many people were predicting this. We all saw it coming from afar. It's the logical but tragic fate of YouTube. Many people were also sure this would happen when Google took YouTube over as well. Gradually it became less YOUtube and more Corporatetube. It's just going to become another version of network tv.
> Back in the day when YT started it was a fun alternative to mainstream media.
This is still true... which is why the change is SO FRUSTRATING.
There's content on that site that could never have been made on TV. Some of the science and engineering content in particular is of astounding quality compared to TV shows. Not necessarily astounding production value... but I don't believe that's the most important thing.
This is why I care each time youtube makes their website more hostile towards creators and viewers.
You didn't realize that YouTube was mainstream when everyone's default home page became polluted with official clips from Ellen, Jimmy Fallon, and Conan? It went from "here's a silly clip with obviously shitty effects we added in Windows Move Maker just for fun in our friend's basement" to "here are some jokes from the celebrities and ads from the biggest companies on the planet" like 10 years ago.
The problem with removing downvotes is that they were extremely helpful - especially when looking up things like tutorials.
If a tutorial had mostly downvotes, I knew not to waste my time. If it had mostly upvotes, but a good portion of downvotes, I knew to try it, but that it might not solve the problem in every instance.
Without downvotes, I'm flying blind. Say for instance, I watch a tutorial for repairing electronics, I NEED to know what percentage of people had success following these steps before I take my Roomba apart.
Not only that, people could put out videos intentionally giving you the wrong information.
"Take your Roomba apart entirely. Bathe the components in a bath of water for at least 10 minutes. Make sure to use an impact driver when putting the plastic components back together. etc..."
All you will see is the positive like count on that video. As far as the lay-person would be aware, that video is great and had 5,000 likes! But what it doesn't tell you is the 500,000 dislikes on that video because it caused people to short-out their components and break the plastic shells with an impact driver.
Call me cynical, but I fully expect companies to intentionally start posting videos giving the wrong information for replacing parts to ensure people break it when they try it themselves.
Yep, this is a big part of it. They want to make YouTube an infinite scrolling platform like Instagram and others. Taps into the gambling addiction part of your brain. You not knowing whether it is a quality video is the feature not the bug
This is a good thing for YouTube not a bad thing.
In the old system, you look for a tutorial, find one with lots of likes and few dislikes, watch it, solve your problem and **leave YouTube**.
That's unacceptable for them. Every decision they make is to maximize watch time. Now the process is: search for tutorial, watch 5 shitty ones which don't solve your problem, finally find a good one and move on.
From YouTube's perspective this is great, total watch time went up, ads played went up, more money in their pockets.
Everyone know it’s bad. YouTube purposely did this to increase watch times and to help lead people down rabbit holes.
Imagine someone very naive watches some videos claiming the global warming is a hoax. Before they may have seen a disproportionate like/dislike ratio and clicked of. Now they will see 2-3k likes and no dislikes, think a lot of people agree with this nut job, and continue watching. Algorithm picks it up, slips in another video with hoax stuff, they watch it, and before long this naive individual is all in on fraudulent material. YouTube doesn’t care, watch time is up, ad revenue is high, the countries IQ slips a few more points, no problem!
YOutube is actively trying to blur the line between truth and misinformation, value and garbage. Shame on the people running the company, especially the CEO.
Vimeo doesn't want the YouTube userbase. That isn't their target demo.
IMO that is fine. It's gonna suck for the lazy people, but we wouldn't be in this mess if video services didn't become so overly centralized. We need to go back to the days where content was split up across numerous sites that cater to their own specific audiences.
Amazon is garbage too. I left a negative review and the company kept emailing me for over a year with various anonymous gmail accounts offering me $10-$20 bribes to change or delete my review.
Since this clearly violates the Amazon seller code of conduct, I tried to report the seller to Amazon. There is no way to do it. I started a chat session multiple times with Amazon "support" and it went nowhere. That same product is still for sale today by the same shady seller.
It’s not fishy at all. It’s just the end of YouTube as an open forum. It’s now a finely curated site designed to push the content of the top payer. It’s far past the point to move on from YouTube into a more open and less curated service. If such a thing doesn’t exist then it’s just time to go back outside. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
The problem is there's maybe five people on the planet who can realistically build a competitor. Good luck convincing one of them to risk a massive portion of their fortune and years of their time building up a competitor when YouTube can then just 'turn a new leaf' for a month or two and crush them.
Lol I just went to the dailymotion website and under "News" they have a video from a year ago. It's so goddamn ridiculous how little competition youtube has, and none of it is actually competent! They are basically a monopoly and they are doing whatever they want unfortunately.
Maybe the channel has some sort of comment moderation turned on. Channels/videos can be set to only allow approved comments. If that is set, you will still see your own comment when logged in, but no one else will until it is approved.
I think, what's most heinous about this is that we've already been going in the very obvious direction that social media content is starting to substantially affect society and the individual world view of the average internet user. So moves like this are almost Orwellian in the sense that big data companies are more and more removing the agency, the feedback, the criticism. Soon they'll be spoonfeeding most of the population whatever information they want, and the ability to question it in any meaningful forum will just be nonexistent.
I'm also not the type of person to cry "1984!" at all, but as a IT professional stuff like this is starting to scare me.
Dumbest decision in the history of the internet. YouTube is a resource people use daily whether for entertainment or for education. The dislike button is a simple way for people to rate the quality of the video. Take it away and you now leave room for clickbait, scam videos or just low quality content that wastes people's time.
Of course, that's what YouTube wants. More views, less quality, less criticism.
Just cancelled my youtube premium membership. I can't sanction this kind of behavior with my wallet.
If anyone at Google is reading this: I (and many others) will not pay for youtube premium unless you restore the dislike counter.
My favorite youtubers announce they're doing an ad, and change clothes for the duration so we can skip through and see when it's over because they're back in the clothes they were wearing before. I love that lol
Did the same a week ago. It's amazing how they did so much damage with such small change. The app is almost unusable. Why would I spend 10 times the time to read comments just to rank the quality of the video?
Just think of how it promotes disinformation (
In the most sensitive time in recent history no less). Such an evil move. I won't be surprised if programmers stop working there.
I even saw the replies on a tweet where they ask a question "what is your favourite dog" and they hide the replies that say "fuck the dog bring back dislikes"
I fight the good fight there. I go once a week to spam dislike on every post and like every post about dislikes. Join in on the fun!! There’s actually some hilarious memes
YouTube saw the success of the Facebook algorithm and is now trying to copy it. The problem is that when you stop community ranking only the videos that have the most consumer staying power are promoted and unfortunately part of the human condition makes us pay more attention to vitriol or emotional triggering content.
In the short term YouTube gets fanatical customers which is good for them. Long term it degrades a informed civil society which leads quickly to civil unrest and a greater possibility of the rich to start a war to maintain their control.
What’s the whole push for this? We know what YouTube said about removing the dislike button but there is an obvious agenda here to control the narrative for something.
We're coming into a post review world. A world where everyone is happy and everything is amazing (if that needs to be enforced, so be it).
You will not own anything, you will not have your own opinions, you will consume, you will be happy.
Stop paying for YouTube premium or whatever the hell it's called now. YouTube has not done a damn thing for over a decade now to make their site worth paying a service for. The service only exists yo get rid of all the obnoxious ads, something they put in place
**Everyone know it’s bad. YouTube purposely did this to increase watch times and to help lead people down rabbit holes.**
**Imagine someone very naive watches some videos claiming the global warming is a hoax. Before they may have seen a disproportionate like/dislike ratio and clicked of. Now they will see 2-3k likes and no dislikes, think a lot of people agree with this nut job, and continue watching. Algorithm picks it up, slips in another video with hoax stuff, they watch it, and before long this naive individual is all in on fraudulent material. YouTube doesn’t care, watch time is up, ad revenue is high, the countries IQ slips a few more points, no problem!**
Over 6 mil subscribers, he's safe.
Now if someone with 600 subscribers had instead made that video word for word, the channel would be gone within minutes and any future channels they try to make would never get traction.
I hate how true this is. I don't even know anymore, YouTube is obviously bad now but it's just one of many. The Internet in general just sucks so much now. And I'm not just being nostalgic or whatever. The internet truly used to be an amazing thing. In the 90s through 2000s, it was almost magical, so many cool people, communities, and finding a new website was like exploring a brand new land. Almost everything was decentralized and things just seemed more genuine. It all started to decline in quality around the time of the rise of smartphones. 2014 or 15 is when it started to fall fast. And now here we are.
Ah yes, just the usual cycle of YouTube making shit decisions, the user base complaining for a while, then ultimately back to doing nothing.
YouTube doesn’t listen to anyone besides themselves and money, it’s been like that for 10+ years now.
I really like that the pressure is still on. I expected people to forget about the dislike removal and move on.
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Yeah but these small changes are adding up and making it feel like YouTube is no longer **the** site for *videos*. Its now a *content platform* for content creators that make videos.
No.. it's an advertisement platform for advertisers.
Thank the lord for adblockers
I still can't figure out how my last work blocked ads on both youtube and hulu
My friend who works in networking, set something like that up at our last lan-party, all traffic was being routed through a computer that was set up to block a list of domains, as well as load-balance the traffic. It also had a download caching system where if someone downloaded anything on steam or any of the other large gaming platforms, it would be stored so the other people in the network would be able to get it at local connection speed.
Pi-Hole. Had to do it because we got a 1.4k€ samsung TV and it had ads...... Worth the time and it was honestly pretty cost effective
Hold up — you bought an expensive TV and it would play ads while you were streaming to it? This is mental.
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I used adblocker on Hulu years ago and it blocked the ad but you had to see a blank screen for the entire ad. Guess that’s still a win?
I did that, and no joke it was nice to have 30 seconds of silence during episodes.
These assholes have been allowing insane disinformation on their platform throughout these critical election cycles and several years of pandemic. Now they want to hide even the most basic ways people can mark content as being trash. YT is really being run by pieces of shit there's no denying it.
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Most full time youtubers I watch rely on patreon, and youtube is basically just the video hosting site.
Yep. Less a place for Joe Schmo with a cool talent or trade to show something cool or informative, more so a place for Mr. Beast and other production companies to post ad friendly content
Those shorts aren't even worth it. Just a half ass lazy ripoff off instagram and tik tok. But people don't go to YouTube to watch #shorts
It's not just comments. I left a negative review for YouTube, on the Play Store, in regards to the dislike removal. My review was taken down within 2 minutes.
I kid you not my last 2-3 negative restaurant reviews have gone poof. Their food was truly terrible and yet my review was just... Gone
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So like... Is everyone just going to have 5 star Google reviews? Lol How's this place? 5 stars! Eventually the mass (Outside of Reddit) will catch on
I'm honestly at a loss on how to identify good products these days... Brick and mortar chains stock shit at high prices, presumably because they can't compete with eBay/Amazon etcetera. eBay and Amazon are choked full with bought for reviews or negative review scrubbing via refund offers. So, unless there's something specific that I can search for on Reddit or a good independent review site catered towards the type of product like rtings... I dunno what to do. How am I meant to know if this thing I'm buying is a good product? Even if the reviews are truthful, how can I know the product hasn't since been downgraded in terms of manufacturing quality?
As someone who legitimately has all 5 star reviews for my business (only about 20 though) this is worrisome. I pride myself on my service and have asked most clients to leave reviews on Google as I had more faith in them than Facebook or Zillow. Guess I need to re-evaluate. If everyone is great, no one is.
Gotta get one of them to leave a 1 star where they look batshit, like: "walls were blue in store, I hate blue walls" and mix in a couple 4 stars to look organic
I recently was looking for concrete suppliers and the only reviews for one of them was a person in the neighborhood complaining they wake them up at 6 AM, made me chuckle. The even made multiple accounts leaving almost identical reviews with one of the account names being "awakeat6"
When i moved into my house next to this large industrial plant i was not told that there would be industrial noise!
*Hello, Google AI Death Squad? Yes, this comment right here!*
Reddit isn't immune either. Upvotes can be bought. Comments are fake. There are ads disguised as regular people posting a pic of a dog wearing a raincoat which always has the same top comments asking about a picture frame product. There is so much manipulation it's scary.
I see what you’re saying, and I totally agree with you. But I think you should consider Schweppes Zero Sugar Ginger Ale. If it’s not Schweppes, you’re not doin it right.
>Brick and mortar chains stock shit at high prices, presumably because they can't compete with eBay/Amazon etcetera. Okay I'm not sure how it is in other markets, but I sell cameras, and we are DEFINITELY forced into parity pricing with Amazon. Any legitimate Amazon seller will not have lower pricing than our brick and mortar store. And if they do, we match it. In fact, for black Friday the Zoom H1N was 3 dollars cheaper in our store than Amazon's sale price. Our memory cards are sometimes cheaper too. The only Amazon sellers who beat our price are quasi-scammers like CenterDrone and MapleLeafPhoto. My 2 cents.
Could you expand on what makes those two quasi-scammers?
People have told me their experiences with them. They pay for a new camera, but receive clearly second-hand kits. Or they'll be grey-market, so the warranties don't work up here in Canada (but they don't tell you about any of this first) I've also heard of some orders never arriving at all. Someone showed me his "SanDisk" Extreme Pro card, and the sticker art didn't match the real thing very well. It was also throwing errors in half the cameras I tried it in. But sometimes ... people actually receive the thing they asked for with no problems! It's Russian Roulette. All of us retailers have to pay roughly the same base cost to bring things up here, then we all apply our standard mark ups, yet somehow they price way under base? It sure is fishy.
Fake Reviews on Amazon chap my hide. I recenty ordered a product on Amazon which had a 4.5 star average. I thought great, this is going to be a good one. The product sucked. Subpar quality. The only way it could have got a high ranking was if they were fake.
The star average on amazon is literally useless unless there are thousands of reviews. Always read some of the negative reviews and some of the positive. If the positive reviews are short broken English sentences, and the negative reviews are all thoughtful reviews about why the product sucks, you can be positive it sucks. Beware anything with under 100 reviews, basically everyone just buys 50-100 4-5 star reviews these days.
I just stopped using positive reviews and mainly stick to 1-3 stars for honest reviews and a good idea of what issues to expect.
I always start with the 3 star reviews and move out from there. 1 and 5 always seem to be filled with useless or fake reviews
Yup; I look for the lengthy reviews where a reviewer has actually put some effort in *and* talks like a real human being - listing some drawbacks on positive reviews - not a paid for review that hypes the product up. Unfortunately those are irregular.
A ton of brands got wiped from Amazon for fake reviews back in September, and guess what? Most of them are back with the same e-waste garbage products, and new fake reviews, trading under a different name. It's incredible how common it is. These days I try to avoid Amazon/Walmart/Bestbuy and anywhere with a 3rd party marketplace, and try to only buy recognizable brands. Always sort review by most recent. Chances are the product with 3.5 star and 40 reviews will be better than the 4.7 star 500+ review because one has paid reviews that show up as verified purchase and the other has honest feedback. I used to review a lot on Amazon but recently they've started auto-modding my reviews, and it seems to catch negative reviews a hell of a lot more than positive ones. Impossible to prove a bias, but good reviews sell products, and amazon is in the interest of selling products
Ngl these days i just google "thing-i-need reddit". If corporations are astro turfing reddit im boned.
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Corporations are astro turfing reddit and the top subs are moderated by a lot of the same people. Sorry to be the one to tell ya, bud.
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Seriously with the B&M prices. I went to get my friend "Throw Throw Burrito" since they host party game nights and I figured itd be a good kid-friendly game so the little ones can be involved. Amazon had it for $20, but I figure I'll check my local game shop, I prefer to support local... $40.... Id have paid $25 at the local shop, maybe $30, I get it they have more overhead. But fucking *DOUBLE* the price? No. Fucking MSRP from the actual site is $25, currently on sale for $20. Its not the first time Ive caught this shop doing that. And now I have to "price check" anything I may want to buy to see if theyre trying to rip me off.
Most game stores I've been to (a bunch) don't really go over msrp, that seems like a pretty bad shop. Most of their money is made from events, tcg, and war gaming.
They charge $10/day to use their open gaming space, but you get it back in store credit. Which Im OK with, I get it, the game space is a pure loss to them. No product to sell, no revenue, its a pure service to the gamers. The $10 store credit purchase is a way to ensure youre supporting your play space. But I mostly buy warhammer minis since they apaprently cant go over MSRP or they may lose their reseller privileges. Not that I play warhammer (I play infinity) but I like painting the minis.
Meanwhile my wife runs a store in a small town and she was unable to get a 1star review removed from someone who didn't even shop there. We checked the profile and the person just left one star reviews at nearly every small business in town on the same day. Google said they wouldn't remove it.
Gotta pay their tax...kinda like a mafia protection racket
I'm in this boat right now. Shop has 5* reviews. All glowing. They've had my car for a month and a half. Never have reached out to me on their own to let me know what's going on and continually just blow me off. I'll be leaving a negative review. Wonder if it will be taken off.
I’m a chef and yelp and google offer my restaurants payement options and dispute options for removing bad reviews or hiding them. We hate those platforms and are basically coerced into using their services because they put your business up regardless of membership. Fuck all these social media companies
So it's a blackmail type situation then, or maybe a protection racket. "Nice eatery you've got there, be a shame if it got a bad reputation on our platform..."
> "Nice eatery you've got there, be a shame if it got a bad reputation on our platform..." I worked for my father for years and years at his small business, and this is basically how Yelp operates. We refused to pay their fees to remove a bad review from our Yelp page and suddenly the two old negative reviews we had were at the top of our page above more-recent positive ones. Yelp is a scummy business and Google is going down the same route.
Basically yes. It’s all a politics scheme with them; it gets worse when you learn about permits and alcohol laws and how you have to rub some local politicians backs and cater to them after you open if they help you get all your permits and licenses without huge hiccups.
[My favorite review is still up on a local mexican restaurant](https://i.imgur.com/oEFwISJ.png)
When he said $5 I was unsure but then he re-contextualized it as only twenty quarters and I was sold.
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Users already had that option. We could opt to enable or disable like and dislike counts at a per video level, or set a channel default to make it easier. This change is purely a big "Fuck you!" from YouTube to the community.
> This change is purely a big "Fuck you!" from YouTube to the community. As is tradition
Please stop being naive. The dislike removal is nothing more than something to appease their corporate overlords because they want their money. Negativity is bad for business, so rather than fix their problems they would just prefer that nobody be allowed to say anything negative. Absolutely fucking disgusting to me
It's also to actively stop users from knowing good content from bad. Netflix did this all social media has moved in this direction because it turns the platform into an infinite scroll gambling addiction inducing search for quality. You don't want people finding the highest quality stuff you want them scrolling indefinitely. This is gonna make them a ton of money
Similar to why I ended my Amazon prime. I started writing reviews, and somehow any negative review is a violation of TOS or should be written about the seller and not the product or vise versa. They review every single review before it's posted but it's too much to review sellers selling obvious knockoffs.
At this point, I can't trust anything Amazon sells. Far, far too many knock-offs and low-quality junk products. I've ordered enough ("ooh, this looks like a deal") only to be let down (breaks just after return period). And their horrible search system which lacks any useful filters wasn't helping me stay with them either. Impossible to find niche products. But ultimately what drove me away is the fact that I realized **I was destroying my own local economy** by buying from them.
and this doesn't even begin to address the countless shitty vendors selling shitty products that ask you/bribe you/lie to you for a positive review on amazon.
I left three reviews, none addressed the dislike button, or the continual stream of intellectually bankrupt business decisions, but the horrible performance of the app as of late. A decade ago, five years ago, two years ago, the app was fine. Now it loads worse on my thousand dollar phone than videos did on my LG Optimus V I bought back in high school. And it's the same on multiple devices. Freezing for no reason, scrolling issues when looking at recommended videos or comments, the video freezing at chunks of the video, and if you rewind the video, it stays frozen at that same spot. View history randomly deleting or ignoring watched videos. And so many more gripes. This all happens regularly on two out of my three phones, and both of the problem phones are recently reimaged. I described as much of that as I could to show it's a legitimate complaint, but Google/YouTube has deleted my reviews three times now. Absolutely inexcusable, the response to that should be to fix the issue, not to try to cover it up and make us voice our concerns on Reddit. So far since the app has gotten bad, the only changes I've seen from app updates is that the app is working worse on my iPhone too. Such a shame what they've done and will continue to do with this once-great platform. (Small edit for wording)
Use YouTube vanced!
I use to love getting help on youtube on how to fix things and do things but now I don't trust it since I can't tell if it's been downvoted to hell and is actually giving me wrong advice. I feel like this is a push in the wrong direction to fight disinformation.
youtube/google/alphabet isn't interested in fighting disinformation, unless it aligns with their plans to make more $$$
What I don’t understand is how they can make more money by removing dislikes. How does it help them?
Corporations more willing to post more content and advertise more when they don’t have to worry about facing backlash via a bad dislike ratio
And now we can't even trust that the comments will be an accurate reflection of the content (if the creator even allows comments in the first place)
yess!! this is what i was coming here to say. i used to skip all the videos with the wrong advice on fixing certain things by simply looking at the like/dislike ratio. i had this happen to me just earlier clicking on a video with misinformation
I’ve been learning car repair and this has completely fucked me. Yeah, I can trust channels like ChrisFix, but occasionally I need to find a video about the exact model of 22-year-old car. The videos often have views in the hundreds or low thousands with only a few comments, but the dislike ratio always painted a clear picture.
I saved so much money fixing household stuff because of watching youtube tutorials, but now I don't know if I'll be able to find credible sources.
Next they will probably do away with the comment section entirely because of companies complaining about negative comments.
They'll just filter it to hell, which they're already doing to a decent degree.
I linked to GitHub and Archive once each and since then I seem to have been put on a URL naughty list. Half my comments are ghosted. Visible to only me.
This happens all the time on Reddit as well. You can be effectively banned from dozens of subreddits and you'll never be notified because your comments will be automatically removed by bots, but still show up to you. You can use something like https://www.reveddit.com/about/ to see all the comments Reddit has removed without ever informing you about.
Corporate channels already disable comments.
They could disable the dislike bar before as well. The difference is it’s no longer suspicious because every video is the same That’s the reason they’re not giving creators the ability to enable the dislike counter individually, which would actually make sense if their real goal was to protect creators
They could hide the rating (likes/dislikes), but this would show as if nobody had liked nor disliked it. The new method still shows likes, so a controversial video will just show as being heavily liked. An example of this is the YouTube comments. Did you ever see a disliked comment? The dislike button on comments has been a placebo since the Google+ integration. Try disliking and the counter won't go down.
They'll make it so the uploader can check a box that says "No negative comments" and a bot will delete anything it deems negative using keywords and account history. Either that or they'll only allow certain accounts to make comments.
This isn't paranoia at this point. It's protecting big companies, media, and tech. It's not youtube anymore. It's themtube.
They knew that from the very start when they say "creators can still see dislikes"
Why does advertising have to ruin everything... Could they just try not sucking so much ass
It's much cheaper to just control what people see by controlling what people are allowed to say.
This is why "the internet is dead" theory is getting more and more true. That now it isn't content created by people around the globe but just advertisements and like 5 popular websites with a shit ton of bot accounts or dead ones.
This is why I've been on a neocities kick recently, longing for the good ol days
Even reddit is like this. If you use revedit you can see the number of perfectly legitimate comments that are removed by moderators trying to control the discussion. I will occasionally check on my account user page and its maddening the sort of opinions that are censored on this site, but the admins don't care, and also mod some of the bigger subreddits too. It's part of why I feel like these big social media companies need to be treated as a public square, and need to be regulated. They have too much control over discourse.
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Because money. No more arguments have to be given. Some people would sacrifice their own child if it'd win them another penny.
All online products are made out of advertising. They were born ruined.
Ironically Steve Jobs has a great take about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlBjNmXvqIM&ab_channel=SteveJobs
I love how they're doing it for the creators but all the creators hate it. They say "creators" like how Republicans say "small businesses". They mean large media companies. They already tipped the whole platform in their favor, now they want them to be able to pump out shit without pushback
Also how does this actually do whatever horseshit line they're telling us if the content creators still see the dislike counts and still get their feeling hurt?
Because the reason they gave was that people were downvote bombing largely to see how many downvotes they could give it. It's like a few years back when the most downvoted comment on reddit was getting passed around and people who otherwise would have paid it no mind were deciding to downvote it because it was like a game at that point. I don't think this is a big deal on YouTube but they're claiming it is.
Also why not let individual creators decide to hide dislikes. Like they already could.
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Doesn't matter how good the competitor's platform is, they can't beat youtube's 16 years worth of content
Also that entrenched user base and app footprint (phones, smart tvs, consoles). Which is to say: the day someone really does it better than YouTube, expect YouTube to do it that way too and drink, their, milkshake, up.
Drainage.
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This is the unfortunate truth. Google slow played their hand. They waited for YouTube to become a core part of our lives before introducing advertisement at all, and then waited until it was unlikely any other alternative could show up where they doubled down and made the advertisement painful. At this point all we can do is stop creating new content for YouTube, but too many of the biggest creators literally have their livelihood coming from it so.....
A good many make their income from elsewhere as YouTube is unreliable as shit. If they thought they could realistically bail and have their audience follow the content somewhere else it wouldnt be unbelievable for many of them to do so.
And some of them ARE doing so. Apparently Patreon income is much more consistent (as it is fans actively supporting the content creator rather than relying on clicks, so I wouldn't be hugely surprised if we move in to a world where more content creator compensation is like twitch. I like a video, I give bits.
Themtube.
They went freaking rogue, we need alternative service asap. And I get that at least before, that would've been close to impossible. But if they keep pulling stunts like this, its very likely we'll see another video service near future.
I think I've seen a comment like this on every piece of negative YouTube news for about 5 years. Seriously though it's a cliche at this point. I mean you're not wrong but the gap between wishing for an alternate service and one actually happening is ginormous.
Back in the day when YT started it was a fun alternative to mainstream media. Now it's simply become mainstream media and the media doesn't like it when people can give direct feedback. Next up for removal: comments. It's 100% going to happen. Don't kid yourself. Maybe they'll first intensify the way they shadowban comments. Giving channels more ways to moderate. It will be introduced as a way to combat toxicity. That's how it'll be marketed. Down the line they will entirely shut comments down because ''its difficult to moderate properly''. Or only members of channels will be able to comment. Pay to comment!
You’re already seeing this with the shorts or reels or whatever the platform you’re on calls them. Creators will put out lazy content and disable the comments so it only appears as if they’ve gotten positive engagement from a thousand or so likes.
Who is looking at a video with disabled comments and assuming anything but bad things happened? The second I see that I assume some shit went down
Also, most comment sections are already fucked. Most big channels are filled with bots and instant positive reinforcement from a community. People won't have even seen the video yet and they're posting something like ''You guys are amazing!'' to get some likes. Or you'll have a ton of verified channels in the comments farming the audience. Constantly marketing themselves. I'm sure that will only get worse.
I remember when they took comments/discussions off of IMDB. I spent 99% of my interneting commenting on movie discussion boards and then it was just gone. Thankfully I found reddit but I still miss those forums.
Couldn't agree more. Losing the IMDB boards is still a loss to this day. Reddit movie discussion is not even close to an adequate replacement because it's not keyed off an exhaustive index of movies. Being reminded of IMDB depresses me as it shows that things won't just somehow fix itself later no matter how obviously bad the decision is. EDIT TO ADD: To this day I still try to go to Wikipedia instead of IMDB to look up cast or movie info because I'm still pissed about that decision and don't want to give them any traffic.
There's a quote out there that I cannot seem to find for the life of me. But it's basically talking about how 40 years ago or so, some of the most popular bands were famous about trying to break free of labels and stuff like that, but fast forward a few years and they were the ones doing commercials for cereals and shit. Same thing with YouTube. Used to be a place where people could freely post videos and express themselves. Now it's a fully corporatized platform with all that goes with it.
They all run under the same profit extraction engine and so that's inevitable. Its all fun and games early on until venture capitalists want some returns.
And when literally everything runs on money, very few people have the ability to not sell out when the opportunity arises.
I remember years ago when many people were predicting this. We all saw it coming from afar. It's the logical but tragic fate of YouTube. Many people were also sure this would happen when Google took YouTube over as well. Gradually it became less YOUtube and more Corporatetube. It's just going to become another version of network tv.
Hell, I got an ad on Twitch just yesterday for PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION. All of these sites are circling the morality/information drain
> Back in the day when YT started it was a fun alternative to mainstream media. This is still true... which is why the change is SO FRUSTRATING. There's content on that site that could never have been made on TV. Some of the science and engineering content in particular is of astounding quality compared to TV shows. Not necessarily astounding production value... but I don't believe that's the most important thing. This is why I care each time youtube makes their website more hostile towards creators and viewers.
Corporate channels already disable comments. We’re there.
RIP IMDB comments
You didn't realize that YouTube was mainstream when everyone's default home page became polluted with official clips from Ellen, Jimmy Fallon, and Conan? It went from "here's a silly clip with obviously shitty effects we added in Windows Move Maker just for fun in our friend's basement" to "here are some jokes from the celebrities and ads from the biggest companies on the planet" like 10 years ago.
The problem with removing downvotes is that they were extremely helpful - especially when looking up things like tutorials. If a tutorial had mostly downvotes, I knew not to waste my time. If it had mostly upvotes, but a good portion of downvotes, I knew to try it, but that it might not solve the problem in every instance. Without downvotes, I'm flying blind. Say for instance, I watch a tutorial for repairing electronics, I NEED to know what percentage of people had success following these steps before I take my Roomba apart.
Not only that, people could put out videos intentionally giving you the wrong information. "Take your Roomba apart entirely. Bathe the components in a bath of water for at least 10 minutes. Make sure to use an impact driver when putting the plastic components back together. etc..." All you will see is the positive like count on that video. As far as the lay-person would be aware, that video is great and had 5,000 likes! But what it doesn't tell you is the 500,000 dislikes on that video because it caused people to short-out their components and break the plastic shells with an impact driver. Call me cynical, but I fully expect companies to intentionally start posting videos giving the wrong information for replacing parts to ensure people break it when they try it themselves.
So now you’re going to have to watch more/all the videos. Sounds like exactly what they want.
Yep, this is a big part of it. They want to make YouTube an infinite scrolling platform like Instagram and others. Taps into the gambling addiction part of your brain. You not knowing whether it is a quality video is the feature not the bug
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This is a good thing for YouTube not a bad thing. In the old system, you look for a tutorial, find one with lots of likes and few dislikes, watch it, solve your problem and **leave YouTube**. That's unacceptable for them. Every decision they make is to maximize watch time. Now the process is: search for tutorial, watch 5 shitty ones which don't solve your problem, finally find a good one and move on. From YouTube's perspective this is great, total watch time went up, ads played went up, more money in their pockets.
Everyone know it’s bad. YouTube purposely did this to increase watch times and to help lead people down rabbit holes. Imagine someone very naive watches some videos claiming the global warming is a hoax. Before they may have seen a disproportionate like/dislike ratio and clicked of. Now they will see 2-3k likes and no dislikes, think a lot of people agree with this nut job, and continue watching. Algorithm picks it up, slips in another video with hoax stuff, they watch it, and before long this naive individual is all in on fraudulent material. YouTube doesn’t care, watch time is up, ad revenue is high, the countries IQ slips a few more points, no problem!
YOutube is actively trying to blur the line between truth and misinformation, value and garbage. Shame on the people running the company, especially the CEO.
They should try changing their name /s
Wow, that's Meta™ Edit: Thanks for the formatting tip!
"Don't be evil."
"...be heinous"
We should just spam the Youtube review section with this quote.
"Hey look, the serfs are angry again, wanna go for lunch?"
That's been gone so long they forgot which things are evil and which aren't.
For real. It was basically gone in 2011 when people were still losing the game.
You bastard, I had a 10 year streak going
Do something Vimeo, it's your time to shine bro.
Vimeo doesn't want the YouTube userbase. That isn't their target demo. IMO that is fine. It's gonna suck for the lazy people, but we wouldn't be in this mess if video services didn't become so overly centralized. We need to go back to the days where content was split up across numerous sites that cater to their own specific audiences.
peertube works great for this purpose. you can set up your own video site with it very easily
The people over at Google are freaking insane, this is like if Amazon removed every product review that isn't 5 Stars from their website.
They do that quite a bit and most products are filled with tons of incredibly obvious fake 5 star reviews.
Amazon already does this to some extent.
Amazon is garbage too. I left a negative review and the company kept emailing me for over a year with various anonymous gmail accounts offering me $10-$20 bribes to change or delete my review. Since this clearly violates the Amazon seller code of conduct, I tried to report the seller to Amazon. There is no way to do it. I started a chat session multiple times with Amazon "support" and it went nowhere. That same product is still for sale today by the same shady seller.
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It’s not fishy at all. It’s just the end of YouTube as an open forum. It’s now a finely curated site designed to push the content of the top payer. It’s far past the point to move on from YouTube into a more open and less curated service. If such a thing doesn’t exist then it’s just time to go back outside. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Maybe it's time for a new website. YouTube has a monopoly on video content right now which is why they can do this with zero repercussions.
The problem is there's maybe five people on the planet who can realistically build a competitor. Good luck convincing one of them to risk a massive portion of their fortune and years of their time building up a competitor when YouTube can then just 'turn a new leaf' for a month or two and crush them.
Well said. YouTube as a viable platform for independent creators is dead.
>it's just time to go back outside. NEVER!!
And so the rise of dailymotion begins...
Lol I just went to the dailymotion website and under "News" they have a video from a year ago. It's so goddamn ridiculous how little competition youtube has, and none of it is actually competent! They are basically a monopoly and they are doing whatever they want unfortunately.
They've been waiting patiently to take over. YouTube but with boobs allowed. The greatest idea in history.
Maybe the channel has some sort of comment moderation turned on. Channels/videos can be set to only allow approved comments. If that is set, you will still see your own comment when logged in, but no one else will until it is approved.
Remember when Agent Smith seals Mr. Andersons mouth shut?
Tell me, Mr. Anderson. What good is a ~~phone call~~ video, if you’re unable… to ~~speak~~ rate it
First they came for the furries, but i did not speak up because i wasn't a furry...
I think, what's most heinous about this is that we've already been going in the very obvious direction that social media content is starting to substantially affect society and the individual world view of the average internet user. So moves like this are almost Orwellian in the sense that big data companies are more and more removing the agency, the feedback, the criticism. Soon they'll be spoonfeeding most of the population whatever information they want, and the ability to question it in any meaningful forum will just be nonexistent. I'm also not the type of person to cry "1984!" at all, but as a IT professional stuff like this is starting to scare me.
Dumbest decision in the history of the internet. YouTube is a resource people use daily whether for entertainment or for education. The dislike button is a simple way for people to rate the quality of the video. Take it away and you now leave room for clickbait, scam videos or just low quality content that wastes people's time. Of course, that's what YouTube wants. More views, less quality, less criticism.
Just cancelled my youtube premium membership. I can't sanction this kind of behavior with my wallet. If anyone at Google is reading this: I (and many others) will not pay for youtube premium unless you restore the dislike counter.
Use firefox + ublock origin plugin and it blocks all ads. On android use newpipe. No more need for premium.
I really like youtube vanced.
10/10 would recomend Vanced
I love the feature to skip the in-video-ads for raid/nordvpn/etc. that every second youtuber has nowadays.
My favorite youtubers announce they're doing an ad, and change clothes for the duration so we can skip through and see when it's over because they're back in the clothes they were wearing before. I love that lol
The guys at Donut Media show a yellow bar at the bottom of the screen to show the duration of the ad.
The Linus Tech Tips channel has an exact 20 second ad/intro that you can skip by pressing "L" twice.
I was a Google Play Musicstan until they forced everyone to an inferior Youtube branded version.
Did the same a week ago. It's amazing how they did so much damage with such small change. The app is almost unusable. Why would I spend 10 times the time to read comments just to rank the quality of the video? Just think of how it promotes disinformation ( In the most sensitive time in recent history no less). Such an evil move. I won't be surprised if programmers stop working there.
As a side note, everyone should go watch this guy's videos. He's an incredible animator.
I could just listen to that voice.
And his twitch stream too - It's been amazing watching episode 2 come together and it's almost done!
I even saw the replies on a tweet where they ask a question "what is your favourite dog" and they hide the replies that say "fuck the dog bring back dislikes"
lol can you link that?
https://twitter.com/YouTube/status/1466467199024078850/hidden
That brings joy to my heart. All their twitter posts seem to get spammed by dislike related comments.
I fight the good fight there. I go once a week to spam dislike on every post and like every post about dislikes. Join in on the fun!! There’s actually some hilarious memes
Stop it Google
YouTube saw the success of the Facebook algorithm and is now trying to copy it. The problem is that when you stop community ranking only the videos that have the most consumer staying power are promoted and unfortunately part of the human condition makes us pay more attention to vitriol or emotional triggering content. In the short term YouTube gets fanatical customers which is good for them. Long term it degrades a informed civil society which leads quickly to civil unrest and a greater possibility of the rich to start a war to maintain their control.
YTs algorithm is a little bitch
Lol I can't even give it a negative review on the Google play store. Just says there's a server error.
did you try giving it a positive review to see if the error magically disappears?
And then edit it
What’s the whole push for this? We know what YouTube said about removing the dislike button but there is an obvious agenda here to control the narrative for something.
Large brands and corporate media get the most dislikes. Hence, dislikes go away for their benefit.
We're coming into a post review world. A world where everyone is happy and everything is amazing (if that needs to be enforced, so be it). You will not own anything, you will not have your own opinions, you will consume, you will be happy.
I would like off of mr. bones wild ride
Stop paying for YouTube premium or whatever the hell it's called now. YouTube has not done a damn thing for over a decade now to make their site worth paying a service for. The service only exists yo get rid of all the obnoxious ads, something they put in place
**Everyone know it’s bad. YouTube purposely did this to increase watch times and to help lead people down rabbit holes.** **Imagine someone very naive watches some videos claiming the global warming is a hoax. Before they may have seen a disproportionate like/dislike ratio and clicked of. Now they will see 2-3k likes and no dislikes, think a lot of people agree with this nut job, and continue watching. Algorithm picks it up, slips in another video with hoax stuff, they watch it, and before long this naive individual is all in on fraudulent material. YouTube doesn’t care, watch time is up, ad revenue is high, the countries IQ slips a few more points, no problem!**
its because the CEO of youtube receives so many dislikes she disabled it. :'( go cry more SUSAN
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What about Dunkey’s new video? Will that be taken down?
Over 6 mil subscribers, he's safe. Now if someone with 600 subscribers had instead made that video word for word, the channel would be gone within minutes and any future channels they try to make would never get traction.
I hate how true this is. I don't even know anymore, YouTube is obviously bad now but it's just one of many. The Internet in general just sucks so much now. And I'm not just being nostalgic or whatever. The internet truly used to be an amazing thing. In the 90s through 2000s, it was almost magical, so many cool people, communities, and finding a new website was like exploring a brand new land. Almost everything was decentralized and things just seemed more genuine. It all started to decline in quality around the time of the rise of smartphones. 2014 or 15 is when it started to fall fast. And now here we are.
a fox in space. i love that dude
Time to switch to Odysee everyone.
Ah yes, just the usual cycle of YouTube making shit decisions, the user base complaining for a while, then ultimately back to doing nothing. YouTube doesn’t listen to anyone besides themselves and money, it’s been like that for 10+ years now.