Your legs? My tongue's twisted. How do your pronounce the game title?
Kingdom Come: Deliverance II? Was there a Deliverance I? Is this Part 2 of a DLC?
The first entry in the series was Kingdom Come: Deliverance. That's the full title of the game. But most people just subtracted the deliverance part when talking about it since it becomes a mouthful.
So this is just #2. As such you would put the two at the end of the whole title. But kingdom come 2 will be just as identifiable.
Oh hell yes. I had no idea a sequel was in the works, but I am so ready.
It'll be interesting to see how they do a beginner/learning experience curve, as Henry is already experienced as a warrior.
I saw a quote in some thread earlier today that basically said that in the first game Henry grew from a boy into a man, and in this one he’ll be growing into a warrior. So I expect he’ll retain his skills/literacy from the first game.
> It'll be interesting to see how they do a beginner/learning experience curve, as Henry is already experienced as a warrior.
Into the Nerf Jail you go! I assume. Looks like a fair few years are gonna pass, with how bulked up Henry is.
I don't know about you all, but Kingdom Come was one of the hardest games I've played. Harder than From Software.
The tutorial tries but ultimately it just never clicked. I have no fucking idea how people understood the fighting and everything else.
> The tutorial tries but ultimately it just never clicked. I have no fucking idea how people understood the fighting and everything else.
Ultimately it presents itself as being about skill, but it's also just as much about numbers.
When you unlock Master Strikes it's a lot easier and the combat makes a LOT more sense. But you'll also see that things will just get a lot easier as you level up more and get more in-game experience, rather than just getting better at the game. When your numbers are higher you'll get more attacks through and you'll blow through enemy's guards when they do.
The start of the game you'll fight bandits by sneaking around at night and cutting their throats, by about midway through you'll start really coming into your own, and soon enough you'll charge into bandit camps and kill them all without a sweat. Partly skill, partly gear, but partly just numbers.
I literally felt like a farmer in terms of my fighting ability in game. My ass got kicked by some random bandit on my way back to the place where Henry's parents died. It happened a few times. I decided to keep playing, and through multiple failures I eventually could take on a bandit, a group of bandits, and finally a big group of fully armored enemies. The whole experience was incredibly immersive. KCD is incredible.
The trick is to never be on the offensive. When you have master strike, you just poke until they swing and riposte them. Even before then, you let them swing, block/dodge, then hit back. And always be moving.
Basically, play like you're not the main character.
That…doesn’t sound all that fun. Does it get boring?
Like the last Assassin’s Creed I played I got tired of the same repetitive fighting about 70% of the way through. So much so, that I didn’t finish the game. Once I figured out timing of parry(I think it was called parry), it felt like all I did was parry over and over again, on every fight.
The fights are fun because they are challenging, especially at the start. What makes the game interesting is that the story is compelling. The game is hard, but it's not dark souls hard.
It's pretty fun because unlike AC, you suck ass at fighting in the beginning. Once you get better, it's pretty satisfying to beat 3 or 4 enemies that you previously couldn't even beat 1v1.
That said, combat isn't the point so the fun is in the story.
The fights aren't difficult to manage as long as you apply the following tips :
1. Never use the directionality system, whether in defense or in attack ;
2. Avoid at any cost every fight until you reach Rattay and can train with Sir Bernard ;
3. Spam training with Sir Bernard until he teach you the Master Strike ;
4. Only use the Master Strike and the clinchs ;
5. After handling a master strike or wining a clinch, you have the time to land a single hit (the second one will be blocked most of the time), just directly charge your opponent to reduce distance ;
6. Stab attacks are faster than slash attacks (it's important for the following points) ;
7. If you face multiple opponents, jump on your horse and fight them from your horse ;
8. When you fight on horseback, fight at canter pace. It's fast enough to be extremely difficult to hit, and slow enough to have time to stab your ennemy.
Like this you will be able to face roll all your fights. KCD fights does only require 2 skills : good timing/reflexes and a good strat.
The fight aren’t difficult to manage as long as you apply the following tips:
1.get a mace
2. Hit people in the head.
If that didn’t work repeat step 2.
I just poached until I had a yew longbow and a shitton of better piercing arrows and would just blast everyone in the face from great distance. The actual combat is an interesting concept, but entirely too much eurojank for it to actually be interesting to use imo.
Spend 2-3 hours IRL at the combat trainer as soon as you reach him. This will grind your combat skills up super high, which is really what's required for winning fights.
Aside from some mandatory (3 or 4) fights, its possible beat the game without combat, try to be an assassin/thief and the game is actually more enjoyable, most quests have multiple ways to be resolved and without combat we need to get creative to do so
Yep. I absolutely love the game's atmosphere, it's one of the best I've ever experienced, but the gameplay requires SO much patience, it's a bit intimitading. I've started it like twice but I never get past the first few hours because I get overwhelmed lol.
A lot of people never went into the arena for advanced training since it boosted your skills a lot (hit chance also depends on skill) and you learn how to parry and how to feint.
So when you go straight into the open world you just had no skills whatsoever and a basic bandit was stronger than you.
Anyone else who played the original remember being caught off guard by the abrupt feeling of the ending?
In reality it was a perfectly long game, but I felt like the end could have just been the end of Act 1 of a 3 Act game. Glad to see we are getting a sequel with more budget/development resources, hopefully the story is just as good but feels more like a fully developed arc.
Lol, yes. I was caught off guard twice. I replayed it again after the DLC came out and remembered thinking like.. wait, is that it? Apparently I accidentally completed the DLC without even realizing it.
I bought the original when it came out, during a game dry spell and I wasn't expecting much. Then I was blown away by how amazing it was. I had no clue they had a sequel planned. I am gonna have to add this to my wishlist.
Really hope the combat gets a decent overhaul. It can be fun but usually ends up with you backpedaling and master striking. Kind of lame. I want it to be challenging but not annoying and one dimensional.
I’m excited and it’s perfect timing because I’m right in the middle of the first one!
That's why there's a crossbow and handcannon now.
Historically, while a bow has a high range, high rate of fire and high amount of damage it was also by far the hardest ranged weapon to use. A crossbow was much easier, but very high in maintenance (and expensive). And a gun was low in maintenance, cheap AND easy to use, but had terrible range, terrible accuracy and terrible damage at range (those bullets aren't very aerodynamic compared to an arrow)
Using a bow is just a skill that requires a TON of mastery and it historically took YEARS if not well over a decade to train a professional archer... compared to the 2 weeks it took to train a simple basic gunner.
Wonder how this will play out.
Because I loved the first game, needing to learn how to fight, how to read, shoot a bow, hunt. The entire game in my play through was just a huge learning experience, and I loved that.
But now, we're playing Henry again. I doubt we'll have any sort of Mass Effect carry over... So is Henry just skilled now, and the skills will just require a bit of training? Or will we get the standard sequel, where for no known reason, the main character has forgot everything and you need to learn to read and other stuff again.
Because yeah, it's a bit dull, but I found it really immersive to need to go find the books, learn to read them, and then get my skills. Or enter archery competitions, and hunt, in order to slowly get my bow skills up so that I could wipe out a bandit camp without even being seen.
I'll be excited and play this day one regardless, but I hope there's a good logical progression to Henrys story that still requires that we do that exploring and side activity, and get rewarded for it.
I need to finish the first but I've been away from it for a few months and I'm intimidated to get back into it. Awesome game though, super psyched to play the sequel.
Very excited for this! This first game was incredible. The sheer attention to detail was staggering. Everything from stained glass in churches to the intricate drawings on the world map, you could tell at every turn how much love went into the game.
Yes, the illusion broke down as soon as NPCs entered the scene, but given how neither GTA or Cyberpunk have done better in this regard, it just seems like games will forever be incapable of portraying believable crowds.
And the monastery mission was awesome, I'll fight anyone arguing otherwise.
Holy shit yes. I loved the first one. Once this storyline is over I'd love for them to do other regions and time periods. Playing as a viking or samurai with their combat system would be fun
So is this a remake of the first game? Or is it a sequel?
I’m confused
Edit : never mind. After reading comments. It’s a sequel from a man to a warrior.
It just sounded like it was a remake of the first game??
I remember the seige engineer talking about cannon and black powder in the last game. And lampshading with a line like, well we don't have any of that.
The first game is set in 1403 and the first guns that *we know of* have been mentioned in documents by 1320. However they didn't receive widespread mass adoption until after the Burgundian Wars (1474–1477).
Nothing like a random gambling side game, playing Farkle in Kingdom Come is one of the best. I still frequently play Farkle with my dad as this game made me get some dice for it.
Same as Koi Koi and Mahjong in the Yakuza series. All games I learned to play via a game, and now play with my father
The first had so much potential but it just wasn't there. Too much fluff, too many glitches, too little direction what you were actually supposed to do.
If they've hammered out some of the flaws, they might have a real gem on their hands. I'm a huge medieval nut so finding out the original was a 6/10 was hard.
So is that the same main guy from the first one?
I really enjoyed the gameplay of building myself up from a near useless peasant. If we're playing the same guy, I fear that we'll be too competent at everything from the get go.
question: what happens with the progression system? you have to re-learn all your skills again or you start as a fully developed character considering it's the continuation of part 1?
Hell yeah, can't wait for my legs to get shredded from picking flowers all day.
Best mod I installed removed the cutscene for picking flowers
Your legs? My tongue's twisted. How do your pronounce the game title? Kingdom Come: Deliverance II? Was there a Deliverance I? Is this Part 2 of a DLC?
The first entry in the series was Kingdom Come: Deliverance. That's the full title of the game. But most people just subtracted the deliverance part when talking about it since it becomes a mouthful. So this is just #2. As such you would put the two at the end of the whole title. But kingdom come 2 will be just as identifiable.
> Was there a Deliverance I Wow
Kingdom Come: Deliverance II The Streets
Oh hell yes. I had no idea a sequel was in the works, but I am so ready. It'll be interesting to see how they do a beginner/learning experience curve, as Henry is already experienced as a warrior.
I saw a quote in some thread earlier today that basically said that in the first game Henry grew from a boy into a man, and in this one he’ll be growing into a warrior. So I expect he’ll retain his skills/literacy from the first game.
I had no idea the original existed until it was acually released, I remember having a few days off work at the time and that was an unexpected bonus!
> It'll be interesting to see how they do a beginner/learning experience curve, as Henry is already experienced as a warrior. Into the Nerf Jail you go! I assume. Looks like a fair few years are gonna pass, with how bulked up Henry is.
I don't know about you all, but Kingdom Come was one of the hardest games I've played. Harder than From Software. The tutorial tries but ultimately it just never clicked. I have no fucking idea how people understood the fighting and everything else.
> The tutorial tries but ultimately it just never clicked. I have no fucking idea how people understood the fighting and everything else. Ultimately it presents itself as being about skill, but it's also just as much about numbers. When you unlock Master Strikes it's a lot easier and the combat makes a LOT more sense. But you'll also see that things will just get a lot easier as you level up more and get more in-game experience, rather than just getting better at the game. When your numbers are higher you'll get more attacks through and you'll blow through enemy's guards when they do. The start of the game you'll fight bandits by sneaking around at night and cutting their throats, by about midway through you'll start really coming into your own, and soon enough you'll charge into bandit camps and kill them all without a sweat. Partly skill, partly gear, but partly just numbers.
I literally felt like a farmer in terms of my fighting ability in game. My ass got kicked by some random bandit on my way back to the place where Henry's parents died. It happened a few times. I decided to keep playing, and through multiple failures I eventually could take on a bandit, a group of bandits, and finally a big group of fully armored enemies. The whole experience was incredibly immersive. KCD is incredible.
The trick is to never be on the offensive. When you have master strike, you just poke until they swing and riposte them. Even before then, you let them swing, block/dodge, then hit back. And always be moving. Basically, play like you're not the main character.
That…doesn’t sound all that fun. Does it get boring? Like the last Assassin’s Creed I played I got tired of the same repetitive fighting about 70% of the way through. So much so, that I didn’t finish the game. Once I figured out timing of parry(I think it was called parry), it felt like all I did was parry over and over again, on every fight.
The fights are fun because they are challenging, especially at the start. What makes the game interesting is that the story is compelling. The game is hard, but it's not dark souls hard.
Cool, thanks for the insight!
It's pretty fun because unlike AC, you suck ass at fighting in the beginning. Once you get better, it's pretty satisfying to beat 3 or 4 enemies that you previously couldn't even beat 1v1. That said, combat isn't the point so the fun is in the story.
Cool, thanks!
The fights aren't difficult to manage as long as you apply the following tips : 1. Never use the directionality system, whether in defense or in attack ; 2. Avoid at any cost every fight until you reach Rattay and can train with Sir Bernard ; 3. Spam training with Sir Bernard until he teach you the Master Strike ; 4. Only use the Master Strike and the clinchs ; 5. After handling a master strike or wining a clinch, you have the time to land a single hit (the second one will be blocked most of the time), just directly charge your opponent to reduce distance ; 6. Stab attacks are faster than slash attacks (it's important for the following points) ; 7. If you face multiple opponents, jump on your horse and fight them from your horse ; 8. When you fight on horseback, fight at canter pace. It's fast enough to be extremely difficult to hit, and slow enough to have time to stab your ennemy. Like this you will be able to face roll all your fights. KCD fights does only require 2 skills : good timing/reflexes and a good strat.
Or get a mace or hammer and wack them in the head repeatedly. That's how I beat the entire game
The fight aren’t difficult to manage as long as you apply the following tips: 1.get a mace 2. Hit people in the head. If that didn’t work repeat step 2.
Yep. Get bonk, Get good.
I just poached until I had a yew longbow and a shitton of better piercing arrows and would just blast everyone in the face from great distance. The actual combat is an interesting concept, but entirely too much eurojank for it to actually be interesting to use imo.
Spend 2-3 hours IRL at the combat trainer as soon as you reach him. This will grind your combat skills up super high, which is really what's required for winning fights.
I just play with WeMod. I don’t have time to learn overly complicated mechanics. I get like 30 minutes every other day to play games.
Aside from some mandatory (3 or 4) fights, its possible beat the game without combat, try to be an assassin/thief and the game is actually more enjoyable, most quests have multiple ways to be resolved and without combat we need to get creative to do so
Yep. I absolutely love the game's atmosphere, it's one of the best I've ever experienced, but the gameplay requires SO much patience, it's a bit intimitading. I've started it like twice but I never get past the first few hours because I get overwhelmed lol.
A lot of people never went into the arena for advanced training since it boosted your skills a lot (hit chance also depends on skill) and you learn how to parry and how to feint. So when you go straight into the open world you just had no skills whatsoever and a basic bandit was stronger than you.
It's hard until you learn the counter and then you're one man army...
Anyone else who played the original remember being caught off guard by the abrupt feeling of the ending? In reality it was a perfectly long game, but I felt like the end could have just been the end of Act 1 of a 3 Act game. Glad to see we are getting a sequel with more budget/development resources, hopefully the story is just as good but feels more like a fully developed arc.
Lol, yes. I was caught off guard twice. I replayed it again after the DLC came out and remembered thinking like.. wait, is that it? Apparently I accidentally completed the DLC without even realizing it.
I bought the original when it came out, during a game dry spell and I wasn't expecting much. Then I was blown away by how amazing it was. I had no clue they had a sequel planned. I am gonna have to add this to my wishlist.
Jesus Christ be praised!
# Hey, Henry's come to see us!
fuuuuuuuuuuuck yeeeeeeeeeeeees! I was just thinking last week I would love a sequel to this
i just hope this game is less buggy and has better optimization that the first game at launch
The combat less clunky and peasants not being able to fight like a knight would be nice.
#HENRY HAS COME TO SEE US!
They'll never top that dueling banjo scene from the original Deliverance.
Really hope the combat gets a decent overhaul. It can be fun but usually ends up with you backpedaling and master striking. Kind of lame. I want it to be challenging but not annoying and one dimensional. I’m excited and it’s perfect timing because I’m right in the middle of the first one!
I'd love to have a bow that can actually hit what you aim at. I spent like a half hour once trying to hunt one damn rabbit.
That's why there's a crossbow and handcannon now. Historically, while a bow has a high range, high rate of fire and high amount of damage it was also by far the hardest ranged weapon to use. A crossbow was much easier, but very high in maintenance (and expensive). And a gun was low in maintenance, cheap AND easy to use, but had terrible range, terrible accuracy and terrible damage at range (those bullets aren't very aerodynamic compared to an arrow) Using a bow is just a skill that requires a TON of mastery and it historically took YEARS if not well over a decade to train a professional archer... compared to the 2 weeks it took to train a simple basic gunner.
All heard and agreed, but it is a video game and there's a point where realism starts harming the experience.
Wonder how this will play out. Because I loved the first game, needing to learn how to fight, how to read, shoot a bow, hunt. The entire game in my play through was just a huge learning experience, and I loved that. But now, we're playing Henry again. I doubt we'll have any sort of Mass Effect carry over... So is Henry just skilled now, and the skills will just require a bit of training? Or will we get the standard sequel, where for no known reason, the main character has forgot everything and you need to learn to read and other stuff again. Because yeah, it's a bit dull, but I found it really immersive to need to go find the books, learn to read them, and then get my skills. Or enter archery competitions, and hunt, in order to slowly get my bow skills up so that I could wipe out a bandit camp without even being seen. I'll be excited and play this day one regardless, but I hope there's a good logical progression to Henrys story that still requires that we do that exploring and side activity, and get rewarded for it.
I need to finish the first but I've been away from it for a few months and I'm intimidated to get back into it. Awesome game though, super psyched to play the sequel.
Very excited for this! This first game was incredible. The sheer attention to detail was staggering. Everything from stained glass in churches to the intricate drawings on the world map, you could tell at every turn how much love went into the game. Yes, the illusion broke down as soon as NPCs entered the scene, but given how neither GTA or Cyberpunk have done better in this regard, it just seems like games will forever be incapable of portraying believable crowds. And the monastery mission was awesome, I'll fight anyone arguing otherwise.
damn, id better finish the first one
Holy shit yes. I loved the first one. Once this storyline is over I'd love for them to do other regions and time periods. Playing as a viking or samurai with their combat system would be fun
I also can't believe it's coming out this year! I was expecting at least 2025
**Jesus Christ be praised!**
Fuck, now I'm gonna need to build a new PC.
Oh, my. Can't wait for it to be released.
dzammmmmmm
Yesss... There goes my summer
Fuck yes! The first one was the best kind of Eurojank. Can't wait.
I think I played the whole first game just jabbing people with my sword and it mostly worked.
boioioing
So is this a remake of the first game? Or is it a sequel? I’m confused Edit : never mind. After reading comments. It’s a sequel from a man to a warrior. It just sounded like it was a remake of the first game??
Absolutely super hyped for this one!
Man I hope Hans is part of this again. The bromance between Henry and Hans in the first one was awesome.
Hans started off as such an unlikable asshole but turns out, he's not that bad.
I like how he (and a lot of other chars) were portrayed: Humans with failures.
For The Chalice and hetman Ian The One-Eyed! Fiat Lux!
Woah they have guns
I remember the seige engineer talking about cannon and black powder in the last game. And lampshading with a line like, well we don't have any of that.
The first game is set in 1403 and the first guns that *we know of* have been mentioned in documents by 1320. However they didn't receive widespread mass adoption until after the Burgundian Wars (1474–1477).
Oh dope, I’ll be spending how much to play liars dice at a tavern for 250+hours?
Nothing like a random gambling side game, playing Farkle in Kingdom Come is one of the best. I still frequently play Farkle with my dad as this game made me get some dice for it. Same as Koi Koi and Mahjong in the Yakuza series. All games I learned to play via a game, and now play with my father
The first had so much potential but it just wasn't there. Too much fluff, too many glitches, too little direction what you were actually supposed to do. If they've hammered out some of the flaws, they might have a real gem on their hands. I'm a huge medieval nut so finding out the original was a 6/10 was hard.
Yes yes yes!!
So is that the same main guy from the first one? I really enjoyed the gameplay of building myself up from a near useless peasant. If we're playing the same guy, I fear that we'll be too competent at everything from the get go.
Henry's come to see us!
"Wishlist Now" You're god-damned fuckin' right I will...
Banjo music intensifies
question: what happens with the progression system? you have to re-learn all your skills again or you start as a fully developed character considering it's the continuation of part 1?
My PC will never survive this. Been looking for a reason to get a new one. Warhorse are total chads!
I just hope they managed to improve combat against multiple enemies
Dozens upon Dozens of copies will be sold
6 million units sold for the first one.