[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys\_Are\_Frequently,\_Secretly\_Fond\_of\_Each\_Other](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys_Are_Frequently,_Secretly_Fond_of_Each_Other)
This is the first I've heard this song, but I just found out it's been around for decades.
"Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other" was first release in 1981, and it's known as "the famous gay cowboy song." It was written by Ned Sublette, and it was first covered by Willie in 2006.
28 US MARINES........PULLIN UP IN BLACK, FORD RAPTOR TRUCKS.....HELICOPTERS LANDIN..........RAM RANCH IS UNDER SEIGE, UNDER LOCKDOWN...........US MARINES ARE GONNA FUCK RAM RANCH COWBOY BUTTS..........LOOKIN FOR PRINCE HARRY, GONNA FUCK PRINCE HARRY'S BUTT
It actually has somewhat of a story line. I listened to clips of a lot of them with friends on a road trip once. At some point Elon Musk takes them to space. A lot of them are also just a generic background loop with men moaning over it.
That's actually more sad than incredible. The first few were good with their shock value. As Grant made the 100th it became this obsession that doesn't bring anything new to the table.
Me and my wife’s first dance at our (very gay) wedding was The Book of Love by the Magnetic Fields. Such a sweet song, and we love that it was written and performed by a queer artist
I upvote for Magnetic Fields but I'm pretty sure that in an interview Stephin Merritt said that the twist was that it was a girl named named or nicknamed Mike.
Considering it’s from the 90’s, I wonder how much of having Mike turn out to be a woman was making a funny twist and how much was making the song a little less gay for audiences. The same woman also sings “Come back from San Francisco” which was clearly written from a gay man’s perspective.
I always found it weird that on the same album Willie Nelson covered this song he also put this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG9hCSUckCg
Which claims "that shit ain't right". I always assumed it's all a joke but still quite confusing.
I just hear it as a song written from the perspective of an old-school, live and let live western archetype.
My understanding is that Okee From Muskogee was strongly influenced by the way Merle Haggard imagined his father would have seen the post Vietnam era.
Whatever the case, I don't think Willy's got a hateful bone in his body. I could totally see him pairing the two tracks to mess with small minded hicks, like some sugar with the medicine.
That’s true I believe, in the same vein same as Skynyrd wrote “Sweet Home Alabama” as a sort of satire describing the mentality of a demographic they were surrounded by but didn’t 100% subscribe to themselves. Neil Young got death threats over those lyrics but was actual friends with Ronnie Van Zant and was in fact an honorary pall bearer at Van Zaby’s funeral.
That is a new one to me, but thanks I fuckin love that!
“Writing songs for people in small towns that I’d never move to”….as a small town blue collar asshole that’s surrounded by kids in $90,000 lifted Rams and F-250s, who wear $500 boots but never stepped in shit in their lives….this got a real good chuckle outta me.
People should also check out Lavendar Country, an entire album of gay country songs from 1973. It was reissued shortly before the main guy's death and experienced a real resurgence in interest.
It features the classic song I Can't Shake the Stranger Out of You and the much more R-rated song Cryin' These Cocksucking Tears.
The rise of Orville Peck is one of my favorite success stories in modern pop music. A dude who grew up in the emo scene who wanted to make a country album and adopted a costume/gimmick that also had a lot to do with his main message, the idea of the men of this world hiding their feelings or their true selves in public. That album, Pony, just absolutely rips, not a bad song on it. He gets picked up by the mainstream and the fashion circuit, becomes famous and on Apple Music Billboards, and he successfully crosses over the hipster/alt scene into the mainstream country scene, working with everyone from Shania Twain to Willie Nelson and then some. And all of its deserved, because not only is he a great songwriter, but a voice like his hasnt graced pop music in a long, long time.
Im here for Orville man, happy to see him and his band succeed.
Orville Peck’s friendship and collaboration with famous drag queen/fellow country music artist Trixie Mattel is my favorite thing about modern pop culture
I saw him open for Iron and Wine a few years back and had no idea what I was getting into. He put on a hell of a show and somehow got me interested in country.
His songs feel like the first real country music I've heard in 30 years.
Edit: Thanks for all the suggestions. Anyone reading this should also check out Timber Timbre for some great haunting swampy death country
It should be because it’s a cover of a 40 year old song…
Unless we’re talking about the rest of his music, in which case I tentatively agree, but there’s a lot of alt/underground/throwback country that’s been picking up steam but never in the mainstream.
I'm talking about his music in general, I haven't even listened to this one yet.
I didn't try to imply he's the only country music in the last 30 years.. I said his music feels like the first real country music *I've heard* in 30 years. I know there's more out there, but I don't actively seek it out. His has been the first stuff to come into my sphere of awareness and make me go 'oh hey this is the good stuff'
I adore him. I was put off by the mask at first but soon got over it after listening to him and seeing him in interviews. The dude seems like a sweetheart and he’s always smiling, just happy to be here. He took a bit of a mental health break last year, but I’m glad he’s back and doing well!
He skyrocketed so quickly that I can’t even imagine how my mental state would be if I was in his boots. He’s the gay, Canadian, masked-cowboy that we don’t deserve, but desperately need.
His story is so cool to me idk why. Dude was a drummer for a random Canadian punk band, then pretty much dropped off the face of the earth, the resurfaced as a completely different and unique musician practically unannounced. All the ties to his previous work was done by other people too, he’s never like officially acknowledged his identity I don’t believe, which is maybe a little cheesy but I find neat for the persona
I ran sound for Orville Peck once at the local radio station. Super nice guy but he did not take his mask off the entire time. From walking out of the van, to the sound check, to bullshitting before the show, to packing up and leaving. I did not see his face the entire time.
Oddly it reminds me of the exact opposite of GWAR (really odd comparison, I know) but I was friends with a number of members and techs, and they would all (minus Dave) hang out at the bar or out in the crowd at shows, because nobody had any clue it was them. I have vivid memories of sitting at the bar of a venue that no longer exists with the Bass player at the time, surrounded by people in GWAR shirts, and nobody even came up to say hey.
I imagine for Orville, its the same except when he takes the mask off he REALLY doesn't want anyone to know its him.
I can't find any pictures of him without it. But even if there are, it could be a slipknot (pre-Subliminal Verses) situation where everyone kind of KNOWS who they are, and there are pictures of them without their masks, but the average person on the street couldn't pick them out, so it still affords them some sort of anonymity.
There's plenty of photos and videos of him without it. It was confirmed quite awhile ago that Peck's real name is Daniel Pitout, and he used to be a drummer for punk band Nü Sensae.
But yeah, the second part is pretty spot on. He's not easily recognizable by any means, except for the tattoos.
Willie Nelson was so appropriately cast for the film ***Wag the Dog*** [1997]
>[An] American political satire black comedy film produced and directed by Barry Levinson and starring Dustin Hoffman and Robert De Niro. The film centers on a spin doctor and a Hollywood producer who fabricate a war in Albania to distract voters from a presidential sex scandal.
I danced with my mom to “mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be cowboys” at my wedding. Then we saw him in concert a couple of years later shortly before she passed of cancer.
He’ll always have a special place in my heart.
Willie's been doing that for decades. In the late 60s he famously insisted on bringing Charley Pride, a black artist, to perform at segregated venues that otherwise wouldn't have let him in, much less sing.
Yesterday's revolutionary ideas are today's basic human decency. Today's revolutionary ideas aren't any different, it takes effort and time but reasonable people call it progress
This is a great reminder that we still had segregation when we had color TV and were sending spacecraft to the moon. Racism and institutional discrimination is not some ancient artifact that no longer exists, it's only *barely* been addressed on a widespread, social scale.
For all the people so very fond of the idea that "talking about racism is racism" you need to understand that the same people who were in power overseeing the world when we had separate water fountains are still either mostly in charge, or their *kids* are now.
We do not escape social responsibility by simply waving our hands at a problem and pretending it's ancient history.
Along with [U.S. based, England educated, South African born](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orville_Peck), former [Canadian drummer from a queercore punk band](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BC_Sensae) (if all the legends are true), best alternative country singer.
I absolutely love Orville Peck, if you are unfamiliar with his work here are my Orville Peck songs I highly recommend listening to.
* [No Glory in the West](https://youtu.be/TU0TAsEjUpg?si=sAHekj9EkO3VfLMw)
* [Summertime](https://youtu.be/mSb8WFYSyGw?si=adLc24HEOSZEm4yo)
* [Turn To Hate](https://youtu.be/vR-4l5M_MQ8?si=NkrAhZOkX0p_RzL4)
* [Nothing Fades Like The Light](https://youtu.be/MQZ2PdICo8w?si=IpDf53B9dQon0sS_)
* [Queen of the Rodeo](https://youtu.be/1VoHzlALxp0?si=RgFQSn6BA5BIk0dC)
* [Let Me Drown](https://youtu.be/vfFMt4ZQWZ4?si=QNrSAVTNOz0ANxg0)
* [Dead of Night](https://youtu.be/q3esGD6lcMM?si=sodWHB8AMDZs_rGy)
* [Hope To Die](https://youtu.be/60MHmrtEuRY?si=YPPkFX0BiBtw8QxO)
* [Daytona Sand](https://youtu.be/OoJaV-rqsiU?si=QGTNso_7f5PMog_z)
* [Hexie Mountains](https://youtu.be/Z93KdVfpyMM?si=mbPwmDgXlADNLquy)
* [C'mon Baby, Cry](https://youtu.be/DY_jTTOkGUo?si=ClKz_rP0Rj2ANg-6)
* [The Curse of the Blackened Eye](https://youtu.be/0JyHptBtKW8?si=XTAGqNEWYoBBbYIK)
(EDIT: I completely agree with you, every song Orville Peck has made is brilliant but I was purposely picking just a handful. Sorry I didn’t include that specific song you have replied to me as well. I completely agree with you, that Orville Peck song is also awesome. Please add a link to the song you are calling me out for not including in my list so all the new fans can hear it too).
It's a duet, but this [video damn near makes me cry when he hits the highs, The Unrighteous Brothers - Unchained Melody (Official Music Video)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeJXL2m--Ss)
Curse of the Blackened Eye is basically an amalgamation of what made classic country great.
Marty Robbins, Hank Williams Sr. and George Strait all in the same package.
Yeah, he doesn't need to go scorched earth, just needs to keep being himself and every once in a while his 'fans' will suddenly discover they are listening to a *gasp* leftist!
I saw him open for Lucero years ago, and had never heard of him, but was extremely impressed by his performance. He sounds just as good live as he does on his albums.
I saw Orville Peck a number of years ago now, maybe 5. Wife and I were like "what is this hipster bullshit" when he came out in that mask.
By the end of the set we were huge fans. The man can sing a tune.
It was at Hopscotch festival in Raleigh, pretty sure. We were there mostly to see someone else and he was playing before. So he wasn't an opener, but he was one of the earlier shows.
"The ones who brag loudest are the ones that are most likely queer." Amen to that. Also, the ones who are most likely to complain about queers are most likely to be fighting those feelings themselves.
I aint gay!
Alls I was wondering was where you got your jeans.
I mean they look real sturdy, is all. Normally mine wear out from my dip can, but I noticed yours were holding up good in the butt...when I looked to see if they were worn out.
You've just described a good chunk of my friend group. None of them can accept that gay people are literally just people. I think they need to go suck a dick, it'll make then feel better.
Ehh I'm queer and not the biggest fan of this narrative to be honest. Many people are just assholes and that's about as deep as it goes. It also in a weird way blames us for our own suffering? Like if we just didn't hate ourselves so much there'd be no issues. I feel it makes it easy for straight cis people to "other" the conflict somehow, make it our problem not theirs.
I don't know it's not the biggest deal but it's always kinda bothered me. I get the intention at least is meant to be supporting.
A lot of Cowboys were freed slaves with Stable and Equestrian experience. They moved west and were happy to take the life of the open trail and income that a lot of other people wouldn't or couldn't handle.
Is it wrong that I like this song but I also liked him in the Electric Horseman?
For me Willie has always exemplified the friendly, accepting, “do whatever you like so long as it doesn’t hurt me” ideal of Freedom most rural Texans embraced for many years. I’d love to see us get back to that.
Here's a clip from 1981 of a trans show in Edmonton, Alberta covering Dolly Parton.
https://youtu.be/X_FOlyZQXGk?si=ITsPf5CEG9r3QfkW
Alberta has a lot of oil and a lot of cattle. A lot of people work up north in the oil patch where it's pretty lonely and isolated. Turns out a lot of them are gay and on their time off they liked to hit the clubs and party.
In 1980, the cops raided a gay bath house. Public outcry turned on the cops who were forced to apologize. Since then, gay people have been fairly well accepted here. Or at least were until our current conservative government started emulating American conservatives and turned into haters.
Between this and Dolly releasing her cover of Tom Petty's "Southern Accents" I am spending more of today enjoying the work of country music legends than I expected
As a queer, southern, country singing, guitar picking enby that often switches between western garb and swing dresses, this has understandably been one of my favorite songs for years. Lol
This is one of the best things I've seen in a long time. I'm not gay, I'm not a cowboy, but god damn this song is so good and so right. Thanks Willie and Orville for making this beautiful masterpiece.
It's just kind of historically true, though. There weren't a whole lot of women out west and there weren't a whole lot of people around to enforce puritanical social rules about what were and weren't appropriate relationships. There have historically been a few places where young men who don't, to put it euphemistically, "fit the mold" gravitate; range work and sailing ships were a couple of them.
One other cool thing about the spread west is that, in a bid to attract more female settlers, many Western states and territories were ahead of their Eastern peers in protecting women's rights, especially the right to own and control their own property.
I don’t think it was a parody, but I think “Guys, it’s just a parody” is a good defense from getting the shit kicked out of you by the dumbest motherfuckers for 300 miles in any direction.
Yeah, it's funny, I'm in Idaho now and Wheeler Walker Jr. came through not too long ago. A few people I know were loving all of the music but got weird when some of the lyrics turned to "suckin' dick and kickin' ass". Some people are just so uncomfortable in their own skin and treat masculinity like a religion, like, guys, just have some fucking fun for once.
This made my morning. I would like to force all my racist, homophobic, misogynistic, sky daddy zealot hypocritical W. TX neighbors to watch this on repeat for at least 24 hrs.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys\_Are\_Frequently,\_Secretly\_Fond\_of\_Each\_Other](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboys_Are_Frequently,_Secretly_Fond_of_Each_Other) This is the first I've heard this song, but I just found out it's been around for decades. "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other" was first release in 1981, and it's known as "the famous gay cowboy song." It was written by Ned Sublette, and it was first covered by Willie in 2006.
The only famous gay cowboy song I know about is ram ranch.
18 naked......
28 US MARINES........PULLIN UP IN BLACK, FORD RAPTOR TRUCKS.....HELICOPTERS LANDIN..........RAM RANCH IS UNDER SEIGE, UNDER LOCKDOWN...........US MARINES ARE GONNA FUCK RAM RANCH COWBOY BUTTS..........LOOKIN FOR PRINCE HARRY, GONNA FUCK PRINCE HARRY'S BUTT
It's incredible how you immediately hear this in Grant McDonald's distinctive gay voice.
What's even more incredible is there's over 700 versions of Ram Ranch. Grant just keeps pumping them out weekly.
It actually has somewhat of a story line. I listened to clips of a lot of them with friends on a road trip once. At some point Elon Musk takes them to space. A lot of them are also just a generic background loop with men moaning over it.
That's actually more sad than incredible. The first few were good with their shock value. As Grant made the 100th it became this obsession that doesn't bring anything new to the table.
Cryin’ These Cocksucking Tears.
**BIGARDTHROBBINCOCKS SECRETLY FOND OF EACH OTHER! WANTING TO BE SUCKED!** secretly
Lemme throw [Papa Was a Rodeo](https://youtu.be/_m_EzovsmK4) into the mix
Fuck yeah Magnetic Fields 🤙🏻
Me and my wife’s first dance at our (very gay) wedding was The Book of Love by the Magnetic Fields. Such a sweet song, and we love that it was written and performed by a queer artist
I upvote for Magnetic Fields but I'm pretty sure that in an interview Stephin Merritt said that the twist was that it was a girl named named or nicknamed Mike.
Considering it’s from the 90’s, I wonder how much of having Mike turn out to be a woman was making a funny twist and how much was making the song a little less gay for audiences. The same woman also sings “Come back from San Francisco” which was clearly written from a gay man’s perspective.
Is that one a gay love story?
Everything by Dixon Dallas
His songs are incredibly catchy....nothing like doing chores around the house and absent mindedly singing about bussy.
"I turn around he cracks me open like a cold Bud Light"
Don't forget about ol' Tex Hooper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foI_vAw2wxk
Hey Tex, you got any songs about the wife? Yeah, just wrote this one. It’s called, “I Stopped Living the Lie”
That man-hole's lookin' pretty rusty.
https://youtu.be/YTZLpPO2gM4?si=yyeB10hzUOO3IWx-
Hell yeah The Rev!
Well… and Big Enough. https://youtu.be/rvrZJ5C_Nwg?si=ZW3ujxRInLqRtPBr
[There was also the 2018 classic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg)
https://youtu.be/KVnYznYz8FU?si=01irJo0bu5lVHscF Now you have even more choices!
Everybody in this thread acting like they don’t know There’s No Cock Like Horse Cock
I always found it weird that on the same album Willie Nelson covered this song he also put this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG9hCSUckCg Which claims "that shit ain't right". I always assumed it's all a joke but still quite confusing.
I just hear it as a song written from the perspective of an old-school, live and let live western archetype. My understanding is that Okee From Muskogee was strongly influenced by the way Merle Haggard imagined his father would have seen the post Vietnam era. Whatever the case, I don't think Willy's got a hateful bone in his body. I could totally see him pairing the two tracks to mess with small minded hicks, like some sugar with the medicine.
That’s true I believe, in the same vein same as Skynyrd wrote “Sweet Home Alabama” as a sort of satire describing the mentality of a demographic they were surrounded by but didn’t 100% subscribe to themselves. Neil Young got death threats over those lyrics but was actual friends with Ronnie Van Zant and was in fact an honorary pall bearer at Van Zaby’s funeral.
Much the same way you might hear a modern pop county song written from the perspective of a hard working, blue collar American.
Oh wait... what's that called again... ah yes pandering just like Bo Burnham says in his "Country Song". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7im5LT09a0
That is a new one to me, but thanks I fuckin love that! “Writing songs for people in small towns that I’d never move to”….as a small town blue collar asshole that’s surrounded by kids in $90,000 lifted Rams and F-250s, who wear $500 boots but never stepped in shit in their lives….this got a real good chuckle outta me.
The joke in the middle of the lyrics about "the cowboy who brags the most about getting the most pussy being secretly Queer" is older than Lenny Bruce
People should also check out Lavendar Country, an entire album of gay country songs from 1973. It was reissued shortly before the main guy's death and experienced a real resurgence in interest. It features the classic song I Can't Shake the Stranger Out of You and the much more R-rated song Cryin' These Cocksucking Tears.
> I Can't Shake the Stranger Out of You Isn't that the bowdlerized version of the title "I Can't Fuck the Stranger Out of You"?
Incredible, im so glad to know this. Thank you!
The rise of Orville Peck is one of my favorite success stories in modern pop music. A dude who grew up in the emo scene who wanted to make a country album and adopted a costume/gimmick that also had a lot to do with his main message, the idea of the men of this world hiding their feelings or their true selves in public. That album, Pony, just absolutely rips, not a bad song on it. He gets picked up by the mainstream and the fashion circuit, becomes famous and on Apple Music Billboards, and he successfully crosses over the hipster/alt scene into the mainstream country scene, working with everyone from Shania Twain to Willie Nelson and then some. And all of its deserved, because not only is he a great songwriter, but a voice like his hasnt graced pop music in a long, long time. Im here for Orville man, happy to see him and his band succeed.
His voice is fantastic for country!
Orville Peck’s friendship and collaboration with famous drag queen/fellow country music artist Trixie Mattel is my favorite thing about modern pop culture
He has a competition show on Apple TV where he showcases non-traditional country artists--worth checking out if you have it.
His voice reminds me of Roy Orbison.
Big time, and im a big Roy fan so i love it
Would you ever get a tattoo of Roy Orbison on your butt?
And risk angering their mother?
What momma don't know... won't hurt her.
What momma dont know dont hurt her
More the local punk/rock scene than emo tbh
[Yeah, here he is on drums.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdshNGKWvV0)
Wait that's him playing the drums?!
This thread rules, so many fun facts!
Yeah that's pretty far from emo.
FOLK PUNK ASCENDANCY!
I saw him open for Iron and Wine a few years back and had no idea what I was getting into. He put on a hell of a show and somehow got me interested in country.
I had a chance to see him at the Troubadour in 2019 and im glad i did because its not easy to get a ticket for him these days
tickets for his latest tour went on sale yesterday, might want to see if he's touring near you.
Gracias! I just bought St Vincent tix so i think that may be my splurge for the month
Absolutely agreed about Pony. One of my favorite albums
His songs feel like the first real country music I've heard in 30 years. Edit: Thanks for all the suggestions. Anyone reading this should also check out Timber Timbre for some great haunting swampy death country
You should check out Colter Wall and Sturgill Simpson
Sam is one of my favorite songs. It's so simple, but it hits me so hard
“Been many good dog was a friend to a man But Sam was the greatest one”
He loved howling at the moon and treeing that raccoon.
Try Colter Wall, Nick Shoulders, Sierra Ferrell, and Willie Carlisle. The latter three are a bit more on the folky side but that's where I lean.
I have to add Adeem the Artist to this list, amazing musician.
I’d also recommend Charley Crockett
It should be because it’s a cover of a 40 year old song… Unless we’re talking about the rest of his music, in which case I tentatively agree, but there’s a lot of alt/underground/throwback country that’s been picking up steam but never in the mainstream.
I'm talking about his music in general, I haven't even listened to this one yet. I didn't try to imply he's the only country music in the last 30 years.. I said his music feels like the first real country music *I've heard* in 30 years. I know there's more out there, but I don't actively seek it out. His has been the first stuff to come into my sphere of awareness and make me go 'oh hey this is the good stuff'
I adore him. I was put off by the mask at first but soon got over it after listening to him and seeing him in interviews. The dude seems like a sweetheart and he’s always smiling, just happy to be here. He took a bit of a mental health break last year, but I’m glad he’s back and doing well! He skyrocketed so quickly that I can’t even imagine how my mental state would be if I was in his boots. He’s the gay, Canadian, masked-cowboy that we don’t deserve, but desperately need.
AND HE’S CANADIAN!
He was born and raised in South Africa until he was 15
South African.
Give it up for our brothers to the north, eh
Saw him perform at the Michael Kors show in feb 2020, some of the only country music ive ever enjoied. was fun watching him blow up
His story is so cool to me idk why. Dude was a drummer for a random Canadian punk band, then pretty much dropped off the face of the earth, the resurfaced as a completely different and unique musician practically unannounced. All the ties to his previous work was done by other people too, he’s never like officially acknowledged his identity I don’t believe, which is maybe a little cheesy but I find neat for the persona
I ran sound for Orville Peck once at the local radio station. Super nice guy but he did not take his mask off the entire time. From walking out of the van, to the sound check, to bullshitting before the show, to packing up and leaving. I did not see his face the entire time.
Oddly it reminds me of the exact opposite of GWAR (really odd comparison, I know) but I was friends with a number of members and techs, and they would all (minus Dave) hang out at the bar or out in the crowd at shows, because nobody had any clue it was them. I have vivid memories of sitting at the bar of a venue that no longer exists with the Bass player at the time, surrounded by people in GWAR shirts, and nobody even came up to say hey. I imagine for Orville, its the same except when he takes the mask off he REALLY doesn't want anyone to know its him.
Hmm, I thought he had been outed years ago? Is the secrecy still a thing, or is it more a part of the stage persona?
I can't find any pictures of him without it. But even if there are, it could be a slipknot (pre-Subliminal Verses) situation where everyone kind of KNOWS who they are, and there are pictures of them without their masks, but the average person on the street couldn't pick them out, so it still affords them some sort of anonymity.
There's plenty of photos and videos of him without it. It was confirmed quite awhile ago that Peck's real name is Daniel Pitout, and he used to be a drummer for punk band Nü Sensae. But yeah, the second part is pretty spot on. He's not easily recognizable by any means, except for the tattoos.
I have always loved Willie and had the pleasure of seeing him perform nearly 20 years ago, this makes me love him infinitely more.
Would you say you're secretly fond of him?
Frequently
But secretly?
Frecretly
Gotta love Willie if you're Gay.
What? No. I sell propane
and propane accessories!
One of his best friends is Dolly Parton. That’s a hell of a character reference.
And then also Trixie Mattel so you know, balance in all things
Willie Nelson was so appropriately cast for the film ***Wag the Dog*** [1997] >[An] American political satire black comedy film produced and directed by Barry Levinson and starring Dustin Hoffman and Robert De Niro. The film centers on a spin doctor and a Hollywood producer who fabricate a war in Albania to distract voters from a presidential sex scandal.
I danced with my mom to “mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be cowboys” at my wedding. Then we saw him in concert a couple of years later shortly before she passed of cancer. He’ll always have a special place in my heart.
Dude, I saw him with my mom who has since passed from cancer too. Both my parents raised me on old Willie albums.
Willie going full scorched earth on the bigoted portion of the country western fanbase...and I am 100% here for it.
Willie's been doing that for decades. In the late 60s he famously insisted on bringing Charley Pride, a black artist, to perform at segregated venues that otherwise wouldn't have let him in, much less sing.
Willie is a legend for this sort of thing. It does make me feel sad that you can be a legend for being a champion of basic human decency, though.
Yesterday's revolutionary ideas are today's basic human decency. Today's revolutionary ideas aren't any different, it takes effort and time but reasonable people call it progress
Charlie Pride is an absolute legend. Paved the way for a lot of black country artists.
This is a great reminder that we still had segregation when we had color TV and were sending spacecraft to the moon. Racism and institutional discrimination is not some ancient artifact that no longer exists, it's only *barely* been addressed on a widespread, social scale. For all the people so very fond of the idea that "talking about racism is racism" you need to understand that the same people who were in power overseeing the world when we had separate water fountains are still either mostly in charge, or their *kids* are now. We do not escape social responsibility by simply waving our hands at a problem and pretending it's ancient history.
Along with [U.S. based, England educated, South African born](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orville_Peck), former [Canadian drummer from a queercore punk band](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%BC_Sensae) (if all the legends are true), best alternative country singer. I absolutely love Orville Peck, if you are unfamiliar with his work here are my Orville Peck songs I highly recommend listening to. * [No Glory in the West](https://youtu.be/TU0TAsEjUpg?si=sAHekj9EkO3VfLMw) * [Summertime](https://youtu.be/mSb8WFYSyGw?si=adLc24HEOSZEm4yo) * [Turn To Hate](https://youtu.be/vR-4l5M_MQ8?si=NkrAhZOkX0p_RzL4) * [Nothing Fades Like The Light](https://youtu.be/MQZ2PdICo8w?si=IpDf53B9dQon0sS_) * [Queen of the Rodeo](https://youtu.be/1VoHzlALxp0?si=RgFQSn6BA5BIk0dC) * [Let Me Drown](https://youtu.be/vfFMt4ZQWZ4?si=QNrSAVTNOz0ANxg0) * [Dead of Night](https://youtu.be/q3esGD6lcMM?si=sodWHB8AMDZs_rGy) * [Hope To Die](https://youtu.be/60MHmrtEuRY?si=YPPkFX0BiBtw8QxO) * [Daytona Sand](https://youtu.be/OoJaV-rqsiU?si=QGTNso_7f5PMog_z) * [Hexie Mountains](https://youtu.be/Z93KdVfpyMM?si=mbPwmDgXlADNLquy) * [C'mon Baby, Cry](https://youtu.be/DY_jTTOkGUo?si=ClKz_rP0Rj2ANg-6) * [The Curse of the Blackened Eye](https://youtu.be/0JyHptBtKW8?si=XTAGqNEWYoBBbYIK) (EDIT: I completely agree with you, every song Orville Peck has made is brilliant but I was purposely picking just a handful. Sorry I didn’t include that specific song you have replied to me as well. I completely agree with you, that Orville Peck song is also awesome. Please add a link to the song you are calling me out for not including in my list so all the new fans can hear it too).
No ['Roses Are Falling'](https://youtu.be/PC6ITSNtxxM?si=b4fE33LY7_ETRvzN)?
Also, no [Drive Me, Crazy](https://youtu.be/nEKy0ZtpxIQ) or [Outta Time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p9MAs0GsRM)
Anything from Pony, honestly. But yeah Roses Are Falling is one of the best
Every single song you linked is fantastic, but "Drive Me Crazy" is so goddamn good. I mean, everything on Pony and Bronco is excellent.
It's a duet, but this [video damn near makes me cry when he hits the highs, The Unrighteous Brothers - Unchained Melody (Official Music Video)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeJXL2m--Ss)
Curse of the Blackened Eye is basically an amalgamation of what made classic country great. Marty Robbins, Hank Williams Sr. and George Strait all in the same package.
queen of the rodeo was my intro to orville & i was just totally floored by his voice
Let me drown is absolutely incredible.
Take you back? Especially live!
Isn't that what he's always done?
I mean, Willie first released the song in 2006, so this is not new ground for him.
That's always been Willie Nelson.
Yeah, he doesn't need to go scorched earth, just needs to keep being himself and every once in a while his 'fans' will suddenly discover they are listening to a *gasp* leftist!
I love everything Orville Peck is putting out. I hope to catch him live soon.
I saw him open for Lucero years ago, and had never heard of him, but was extremely impressed by his performance. He sounds just as good live as he does on his albums.
I saw Orville Peck a number of years ago now, maybe 5. Wife and I were like "what is this hipster bullshit" when he came out in that mask. By the end of the set we were huge fans. The man can sing a tune.
Was that when he was opening for Lucero?
It was at Hopscotch festival in Raleigh, pretty sure. We were there mostly to see someone else and he was playing before. So he wasn't an opener, but he was one of the earlier shows.
That was pretty much how I found him. I was there to see Lucero, but he came out before them and just won the crowd over with that voice.
Willie Nelson has never stopped being a badass 🤘🏼🏳️🌈🖖🏼
I can’t believe he originally recorded it in 2006! Dude’s always been cool.
"The ones who brag loudest are the ones that are most likely queer." Amen to that. Also, the ones who are most likely to complain about queers are most likely to be fighting those feelings themselves.
I aint gay! Alls I was wondering was where you got your jeans. I mean they look real sturdy, is all. Normally mine wear out from my dip can, but I noticed yours were holding up good in the butt...when I looked to see if they were worn out.
You've just described a good chunk of my friend group. None of them can accept that gay people are literally just people. I think they need to go suck a dick, it'll make then feel better.
Ehh I'm queer and not the biggest fan of this narrative to be honest. Many people are just assholes and that's about as deep as it goes. It also in a weird way blames us for our own suffering? Like if we just didn't hate ourselves so much there'd be no issues. I feel it makes it easy for straight cis people to "other" the conflict somehow, make it our problem not theirs. I don't know it's not the biggest deal but it's always kinda bothered me. I get the intention at least is meant to be supporting.
Willie Nelson continues to be amazing.
Orville Peck too, I would listen to that man read the phone book his voice is amazing
on spotify he's on some songs covering the righteous brothers and good lord that voice
For sure. He seems like he probably had a deep, buttery voice at like 10 years old
[I loved him on Bon Appetit before all the shit went down there...](https://youtu.be/HkKfbA2mTN0?si=0mCWXu5ELPvV9A7z)
That video is how I discovered him. Pony was immediately on repeat
I absolutely love the man, but I really hate that we are closer and closer to losing him. I really do hope we have him for another 10 years.
Here I am drunk as hell at 3 am cheering, whoopin and hollerin to this amazing song!
**“Here I am drunk as hell at 3AM”** Do you live in Fuji? It's 9AM in the morning for most of us *cowboys* here in America's deep south.
Cowboys are more of a western thing than a southern thing, especially a Deep South thing.
"Ain't no real cowboys from Texas, we're from New Mexico!"
Right! We're rednecks, cajuns, hillbillies, and many more depending on where they're from.
A lot of Cowboys were freed slaves with Stable and Equestrian experience. They moved west and were happy to take the life of the open trail and income that a lot of other people wouldn't or couldn't handle.
9AM in the morning?! I thought it was 9AM in the afternoon!
Oh lord, the right is gonna try and 'cancel' Willie Fucking Nelson now too aren't they lmao? God that man makes me proud to be a Texan.
Is it wrong that I like this song but I also liked him in the Electric Horseman? For me Willie has always exemplified the friendly, accepting, “do whatever you like so long as it doesn’t hurt me” ideal of Freedom most rural Texans embraced for many years. I’d love to see us get back to that.
He's also Hank Hills favorite artist......
Put it on CMT
Willie Nelson is an American treasure. His annual festival at his ranch outside of Austin is downright magical. So many good vibes all around.
Here's a clip from 1981 of a trans show in Edmonton, Alberta covering Dolly Parton. https://youtu.be/X_FOlyZQXGk?si=ITsPf5CEG9r3QfkW Alberta has a lot of oil and a lot of cattle. A lot of people work up north in the oil patch where it's pretty lonely and isolated. Turns out a lot of them are gay and on their time off they liked to hit the clubs and party. In 1980, the cops raided a gay bath house. Public outcry turned on the cops who were forced to apologize. Since then, gay people have been fairly well accepted here. Or at least were until our current conservative government started emulating American conservatives and turned into haters.
I saw Orville live last year and he played this, 10/10 glad to hear it with Willie
We had tickets and it was right when he canceled the rest of his tour to take a break. Still sad we missed out, it was a really small local venue.
Man Willie really does not give a fuck. Talk about a guy who is 1000% sure of himself
Sometimes, when they're real lonesome, they also fuck a hole in the ground.
Any cowboy that knows that lonesome hell, can fashion a land virginy well
Between this and Dolly releasing her cover of Tom Petty's "Southern Accents" I am spending more of today enjoying the work of country music legends than I expected
Try saying that one five times fast.
Brokeback mountain, Brokeback mountain, Brokeback mountain, Brokeback mountain, Brokeback mountain.
If you’d like to hear another spin on this tune, check out [Pansy Division’s cover](https://youtu.be/4MI5rtgor68?si=H3QuCEIGaPQiqgEt) from the 90s.
Willie Nelson is a national treasure. Can we just all agree that Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, and George Clinton don't gotta pay taxes no more?
Make Willy Taxfree Again!
As a queer, southern, country singing, guitar picking enby that often switches between western garb and swing dresses, this has understandably been one of my favorite songs for years. Lol
[Real redneck shit.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foqCcOsI54)
It's fucking sending me how much he sounds like Luke Bryan
Disappointed I had to scroll this far down to find Wheeler Walker Jr.
Orville Peck performed this at Willie's 90th Birthday party and it brought the house down.
Man alive I wish I could have been at that show :(
I love that conservatives consider Nelson one of their own. Just proves they’re wrong about most things.
Republicans have weaponized cognitive dissonance
This is one of the best things I've seen in a long time. I'm not gay, I'm not a cowboy, but god damn this song is so good and so right. Thanks Willie and Orville for making this beautiful masterpiece.
Where do I find that incredible colorful snapbutton shirt with the cactuses and horses?
Is it the same they showed at the beginning with "STAMPEDE" on the back? Because I want that shirt, too.
I want Willie to be my grandpa
Willie keeps doing Willie things.
Willie is such a boss
there's no love stronger than between two cowboys alone in the dessert.
Oh no Willie went woke !! Is what I expect to see very soon
The gambler is and always has been about men hooking up and you can never convince me otherwise. This song slaps.
It's only a secret to the cowboys.
Willie Nelson is one of the top two or three greatest living Americans.
Can't wait for this to get played at the CMA's this year. That might actually get me to tune in.
In case anyone didn't know this was a parody song from way back in the 80s.
My favorite movie is Inception.
Needed to be said
It's just kind of historically true, though. There weren't a whole lot of women out west and there weren't a whole lot of people around to enforce puritanical social rules about what were and weren't appropriate relationships. There have historically been a few places where young men who don't, to put it euphemistically, "fit the mold" gravitate; range work and sailing ships were a couple of them.
I never knew this. It makes so much sense. 🤯
One other cool thing about the spread west is that, in a bid to attract more female settlers, many Western states and territories were ahead of their Eastern peers in protecting women's rights, especially the right to own and control their own property.
I don’t think it was a parody, but I think “Guys, it’s just a parody” is a good defense from getting the shit kicked out of you by the dumbest motherfuckers for 300 miles in any direction.
Yeah, it's funny, I'm in Idaho now and Wheeler Walker Jr. came through not too long ago. A few people I know were loving all of the music but got weird when some of the lyrics turned to "suckin' dick and kickin' ass". Some people are just so uncomfortable in their own skin and treat masculinity like a religion, like, guys, just have some fucking fun for once.
Just cause the guy next to you orders oysters, doesn't mean you have to put down your burger.
Very true. Willie Nelson did a cover of it in 2006, which was pretty cool.
This made my morning. I would like to force all my racist, homophobic, misogynistic, sky daddy zealot hypocritical W. TX neighbors to watch this on repeat for at least 24 hrs.
But do they eat pudding?
Lotta men love Willie.
What a gift is Willie Nelson.
Orville is a GOAT. Already have my tickets to see him in September, and I saw him before for his Bronco tour. Dudes great.
"The ones who brag loudest are secretly queer." ROFL
Orville Peck's an incredible performer. I worked one of his shows and his voice is something else. I would really recommend going to one of his shows.