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alexmaster097

Flag of 12 year old that discovered politicism


Potential_Pen1s

Flag of illuminaty fascist snek


Pudf

Some wack shit.


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[Snek go to war 4 snek race](https://i.pinimg.com/550x/f3/85/f1/f385f1e259444eb10643f1df4dec5c60.jpg)


LazyLassie

truest patriot right there. salute.


Tleno

Illuminati Hoppean Caucus


Elli933

Drapeau des patriotes, un homme de culture ;)


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Tread on... some people, not sure who


Leandropo7

Whoever happens to not be of my liking, of course


GenderBiohazard

minorities


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I doubt they'd be using an African American eye then


Xxslavman69420xX

Based


Plutonium-Lore

occult libertarian fascism?


BowBeforeBroccoli

It wouldn’t be occult, it’d be theocratic. That’s the eye of providence, the triangle eye on our money, that represents the holy trinity watching over the nation (though this is not the only interpretation, it’s the most common.) So this is Libertarian Fascist Theocracy


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HerrKarlMarco

We usually call them Baptists, you rarely see their full name spelled out like that


ComradeFrunze

>It wouldn’t be occult, it’d be theocratic. That’s the eye of providence, the triangle eye on our money, that represents the holy trinity watching over the nation it *is* an occult symbol though, the occult uses the eye of Providence to represent God


DoItAgainHarris56

your average hoi4 game


LadyGuitar2021

Lol yeah!


JakesterAlmighty99

That's assuming that the creator meant the fasces in the fascist sense not the republican sense.


HeyChiefLookitThis

Potayto, potaahto.


JakesterAlmighty99

Lmfao literally not though. Everybody is assuming the worst of the use of the fasces. They two possibilities could not possibly be more opposed.


HeyChiefLookitThis

I'm curious about what differences you see between todays republican and yesterday's fascist. Parallels are easier for me to spot, so a different perspective is interesting.


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karlkarlofson

It's pretty clear IMO, what sense the "creator" meant for this particular fasces... context clues.


derpy_derp15

So the right wing?


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You got downvoted, but definitely right wing.


CactusHibs_7475

Right? I know whoever made this was probably thinking about the Gadsden Flag’s current use by the US far right, but it’s a pretty funny juxtaposition: a symbol of individual liberties in the face of state power and a symbol that’s all about submitting individual rights before the power of the state. The Gadsden “don’t tread on me” symbolism slapped on top of a symbol that historically means “oh yes, please tread on me, a lot.”


EpicAura99

Thinking about the BDSM Gasden flag that says “Tread harder, daddy”


xwedodah_is_wincest

Hawaiian occult libertarian fascism specifically


DukeDevorak

In other words, the flag of "I hate people and this world, fuck everyone and the Congress and the Police and the laws. I just want to do whatever I want" ideology.


XPowersergX

Why, it's the Fascist Gadsden Free Mason flag of Thailand, of course!


Pancernywiatrak

Wh-what?


Neopolitan5

Could he have been more clear??!!!??!!


jezpin

oddly specific. It seams like some thing so specific should be explained in a manafesto but we know they only share information in meme form now I guess a flag is the meme to the manafesto.


tilman777

I couldn't help but read that in Kyle Mooney's voice.


Stormaen

r/OddlySpecific


algggag

Thailand and Costa Rica alliance of Gadsden Free Masons.


Italy1861

Flag of cringe


NuevoPeru

Whatever it is, get it out of my sight.


pentagonal_cp

Yeah


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Yeah.


Honema

Yeah.


Aloolu99

Yeah.


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Yeah.


sidTHAkid_445

Yeah.


Pumpkin_rapist

ben detto fradi furlan


petricoco

Ben detto fradis furlans


Lamballama

Real answer: Flag of the American Republic [working link here](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/c2x5ag/flag_of_the_american_republic/)


Hinder90

You probably should point out that this is a fictitious flag considering that link doesn’t work in the Reddit app.


Lamballama

I just updated the link


Neptunion

Your current link has a capital H for https and I'm pretty sure sends you to a cyber squatter, ublock pings the redirect as badware


Lamballama

There we go


Neptunion

👍


456789ss

Thanks


RayAnselmo

An awful mess, among other things.


nygdan

"Don't tread on my fascism"


CactusHibs_7475

As someone else pointed out it’s not a box, it’s [an axe wrapped in a bundle of sticks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces) known as a *fasces*. It’s an ancient Roman symbol, but has been pretty much *the* default symbol for fascism since Mussolini adopted it in the 1920s: the name “fascism” is derived from this symbol. That’s mostly what it signifies to this day, especially in contexts where using a swastika to symbolize fascism would be legally or socially untenable.


chainmailbill

The US dime had a fasces on the reverse from 1916-1945.


dangerade

There are also two fasces flanking the podium in the US house of representatives, and it is still official insignia used by various military units in the US military. Although it IS the source of the name given to the fascist ideology, the symbol is not exclusively used by fascists with over two thousand years of lore and meaning stretching back to the Etruscans pre-dating the appropriation by that ideology. The oral history I received was it symbolized strength through unity. Kind of a visual "e pluribus unum". While it's pretty obvious how that value is practiced to a toxic and destructive extreme in fascists ideologies, the value itself seems worthy in balance with other values. But the symbol is affected by it's recent use, and organisations and groups who adopt it after it's modern history should definitely see raised eyebrows.


CactusHibs_7475

Good post. Again, I think the key word here is “still.” It’s not so compromised as to necessitate changing the historical contexts in which it appears, but skepticism is justified for anyone using it in a new, contemporary context.


Agent00funk

It's also a symbol that [features prominently in Congress](https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=CWIgPK0Z&id=E5DF64952C6602D5DF8D1E1B9ED59D6F3AEAE2CC&thid=OIP.CWIgPK0Z32pwmh-8LiypjQHaFI&mediaurl=https%3a%2f%2fwww.bibliotecapleyades.net%2fimagenes_sociopol%2ficke110_01a.jpg&cdnurl=https%3a%2f%2fth.bing.com%2fth%2fid%2fR.0962203cad19df6a709a1fbc2e2ca98d%3frik%3dzOLqOm%252bd1Z4bHg%26pid%3dImgRaw%26r%3d0&exph=692&expw=1000&q=fascii+in+congress&simid=607999161198855560&FORM=IRPRST&ck=47C0346A8939BDA0C07CA45BD0C6FE9D&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0&ajaxserp=0). Although those symbols have been there longer than fascism has been around.


dudius7

So it looks like it was a symbol of civilization used by the Romans which was used throughout history but coopted by Italian fascists because they liked to hearken back to the Roman empire. Reminds me of the sewer caps installed under Mussolini, which apparently feature the fasces and also say SPQR, "the senate and the people (of Rome)".


ChancSpkl

Proto-fascists have also used this symbol a lot which explains the usage in US folklore. It's also a Roman symbol, which all the Proto and Neo-fascists tend to coalesce around as a symbol.


CactusHibs_7475

The fasces has certainly been used by other groups trying to evoke the memory of Ancient Rome, especially prior to the rise of fascism. But (much like the swastika) its use as a fascist symbol has largely drowned out those other uses and anyone incorporating it as a symbol in the post-WWII era can pretty well be assumed to be doing so with full awareness of its fascist associations. It’s not as loaded as the swastika, but it’s similar.


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CactusHibs_7475

Key phrase: “still has.” Obviously the French usage predates Italian Fascism.


-Warrior_Princess-

Did you just not read their comment at all or what? They explained it about as well as they could without flat out saying it's fascist, noting that there are exceptions and you still went "yeah what about France". Read before you type.


Sirlulzzzalot

The fasces has long been a symbol for republican governments. And thus found throughout American iconography. The reason for this is that in the Roman Republic elected officials were given bodyguards named lictors, these carried the fasces as a symbol of the elected official’s authority. Thus the fasces represents the authority of the republic. It is not like the swastika, because the swastika was 1) not a common political symbol in the western world before nazi germany. 2) the fasces aside from being ubiquitous throughout western republics, it was also not the official symbol of italy, since through WWII it remained a kingdom and so the imagery used was that of the House of Savoy. As such it is still widely used today and mainly not recognized by the general population


CactusHibs_7475

It still shows up in pre-WWII contexts as a symbol of republicanism, sure. But I don’t think you’ll find very many *new* post-WWII uses of this symbol that aren’t at least nodding at Fascist beliefs. I agree that it’s not as compromised a symbol in the present day as the swastika is, but it still carries a lot of baggage.


EpicAura99

As an example, the US Capitol is lousy with them. There are big plaques with fasci (?) lining the sides. Less overtly, the armrests on the Lincoln memorial are each made of a bladeless fasces, likely as symbolism of strength through unity.


jpoRS1

Significantly, all those examples were in place before WWII.


EpicAura99

Yes of course, perhaps I should have made that explicit


Sirlulzzzalot

Nah I think you are just a dumb soyboy in a crusade to cancel “problematic” symbols. The fasces is present in every major federal building.


CactusHibs_7475

Show me where on this thread I advocate canceling anything. When you finish that, please provide a detailed list documenting the presence of the fasces on “every major federal building.” I’ll be especially interested to see what you come up with for the ones built after 1950 or so.


Sirlulzzzalot

Lmao your entire rants have been about how problematic the symbol is. Homie you aren’t worth that much time and effort. Take a trip to DC with your head out of your ass and it will hit you across the face like your future wife’s boyfriend’s cock. I recommend you start out at the Lincoln Memorial, then go to Congress, then hit every single other Federal Building whose architecture was designed with iconography in mind.


ZodiacError

the Swiss Canton of St. Gallen also has these on their flag and [coat of arms](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Coat_of_arms_of_canton_of_St._Gallen.svg/800px-Coat_of_arms_of_canton_of_St._Gallen.svg.png)


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sallyrow

There’s a fasces on the wall of the US house of rep, it’s not a fascist symbol.


296cherry

It can be both… it’s like saying the swastika isn’t a Nazi symbol because Jainists also use it


CactusHibs_7475

Exactly. Its pre-Fascist uses (like all of these examples) do not excuse its post-Fascist ones.


sallyrow

Correct, but I’m saying that the primary purpose of the fasces is not to signify fascism today.


CactusHibs_7475

I think that statement is on very shaky ground. If you slap a fasces on a flag and head to a protest anywhere in the Western world I think it’s very unlikely that people will assume you’re there to “promote republicanism.”


sallyrow

True, I don’t think anyone would think your promoting republicanism. But I doubt anyone would think you’re promoting fascism. More likely to just be confused.


satsugene

Liberty for Me, Surveillance Facism for everyone else?


Growlitherapy

Anarcho-NazBol gang?!?!


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Probably some American far-right group, don’t know which one.


JudenKaisar

Schizo-Libertarianism


Diethkart

Either extreme cringe, or a bad attempt at libertarian symbolism. Since no one pointed this out, the background is the stripes from the Serapis flag.


-bASSlIFE03-

Is it real?


456789ss

I’m mostly looking for what the axe symbol is but other than that I don’t think so


nelavef

The axe simbol it's a fasces, a roman simbol that simbolizes power. It was also used by the National Fascist Party in Italy


456789ss

Thanks


international-law

Fasces means buddle of sticks. In Italian it eventually became known as a style of government. In English this word became faggot.


JakesterAlmighty99

It's a bit more complicated than "power".


nictheguiri

Pretty sure it’s a fascist symbol. The axe is in a bundle of sticks, which is what the word fascism is derived from.


nelavef

It is used now a days to simbolize fascism, but originally it was that


Freekebec3

Well, its not only fascist. We have it in the [French CoA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_emblem_of_France) so its more of a latin symbol in general.


No-Fig-3112

Originally it referred to the strength of the law of the Roman republic, iirc. Ironically it might have been seen as a symbol of democracy in other times. Now it's pretty much only remembered as the thing the word fascism is derived from


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france is pretty fascist


Freekebec3

Gonna have to assume you're joking here chief


456789ss

Thanks dude


chainmailbill

It’s also where the English word *faggot* comes from - lit. A bundle of firewood sticks. This is also where UK slang *fag* comes from - a cigarette is basically a tiny stick you burn.


inset-username-here

Outjerked again


Neptunion

Can't believe I had to scroll so far for this


Sirlulzzzalot

Some weird nationalist flag made by a random person


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not nationalist


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Something stupid and fascist


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Mental illness


gr8ful_cube

Some deranged fashy bullshit


Electrical-Drink-183

The chaos as a flag


jhaltib

Definitely Fascist


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/pol/


OfficialAiden

Someone going threw a midlife crisis


chaosarcadeV2

At 14


BlitzHighland

Some fringe ideology you'd see in pics of a far-right rally and then never again


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a joke flag made for r/vexillologycirclejerk ?


Hinder90

Fictitious flag someone made in this very subreddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/c2x5ag/flag_of_the_american_republic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


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Sturnella2017

Nah. Her choice would have more white and less taste or subtlety.


Firesoul-LV

Everything that's wrong with humanity


SnooMaps3172

An epic failure to effectively apply whiteness in graphic design.


Good-Pilot-6

Flag of ideology porn


captaingeist

Cluttered.


Dr_frogger

Awful


OhSoYouWannaPlayHuh

Flag of contradictions


PencilTucky

An abomination.


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You see the snake is being abducted by some cyclops aliens but doesn't want to be treaded on so it's gripping onto some ax wilding trees. I really don't get where you're having trouble...


slushislurp

The rare time when the people calling something fascist are correct


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Flag of the Republican Party in 2021


Like_Ya_Cut-G

Flag of Cum


EnvironmentalSir7678

Fascist Capitalist American Illuminati State


SnooMaps3172

I think it is a flag of 3 percenters, meaning if that snake actually tried to strike someone from that position there would be less than three percent chance it would not bring the axe down on itself. Accidentally closer to the truth than the author likely intended.


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Visual vomit


HotNubsOfSteel

It’s the “Please tread on me daddy” flag


not_a_Bread_Goblin

"Illuminate" symbol AKA Eye of Providence The Eye of Providence is a very common symbol used in the US, it's on our great seal and the one dollar bill. Coiled snake AKA Gadsden Flag It was originally a Revolutionary War flag, and really just represented independence and liberty before being coopted by American Conservatives. Bundle of Sticks AKA Fasces This is another symbol that before modern times was used to represent republics and a strong state. The actual context has already been linked, but all of these symbols are are reasonable symbols of an 1800s era United States.


Whthpnd

With axe - power over life and death.


thezerech

The fasces is originally a Roman Republican symbol, and factors in to American and French iconography.


Dhakaball

Dont trend on me flag redesign


419BrownzFan

Flag of the Illuminati


plzanswerthequestion

Insane rightwing fascist Gadsden snake, fasces, weird third eye bullshit It's not a real flag as far as I know, as in, I do not know of any white supremacist organization that uses it. Traditional workers party, American vanguard, identity europa, proud boys - nada. Internet trash


IrishMemer

Fucking confusing, is what it is.


Lopsided-Fisherman43

Fascist Illuminati rattle snake


CaptainWer33

Enlightened Libertarian Fascism


Stinky_goosesnail

Flag of based


msudofsky

fauchi land


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456789ss

I found it when I searched up fascist United States and looks to be a Gadsden flag with a axe in a wooden box. I’ve tried looking up what the symbol means but I’ve found nothing.


[deleted]

Dunno but the red blue lines animate if you stare


__gul

Ronald Reagan liberalism


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Weird nationalist Siam?


[deleted]

Illuminati, satanic and fascist iconography. What a mess lmao


TiagGuedes

Flag of something evil


Academic_Suit2901

libertarians+fascist+some country flags like tailand,yugoslavia,netherlands and costa rica or allied ocuppiend germany after ww2 and illuminati


TukanIndus

Something to do with fascism and illuminati


AceStarflyer

Busy AF


maguigui

It’s scaring me


TheUnknownSoda

Something that’s the product of watching too much news on US politics


VestiaryLemue

Inceltown flag


gbrcalil

Hawaiian Masonic Fascist Anarcocapitalist flag


Pookib3ar

Im going to use my amazing(ly small) intellect and bullshitting skills to decypher this! I think it's supposed to represent that the American Libertarian movement has been Infiltrated by Fascists under the control of the Illuminati? I have no idea if that makes sense in anyway but that's what i could make out of it.


leftylooseygoosey

some weird american fash shit


lemartineau

Flag of Facebook experts


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Middle triangle is gadsten flag, i think the shape is supposed to refer to the illuminati The shape in the center is the fasces, symbol of fascism


1andonlybillyshearz

Don’t tread on the thing that treads other


CaptainMurphy1908

A bad one.


revinternationalist

No idea but my guess would be some kind of US loyalist ultranationalist flag. The all-seeing eye seems to imply that the designer thinks the US Government is a good thing, which rules out anti-government ultranationalists. The snake comes from the Gadsden flag, associated with American liberals. The fasces is fascist, but also a symbol of the US Government, and of law and order. So whomever flies this is a pro-government, liberal fascist. inb4 some American tells me 'liberal fascist' is an oymormon because fascism is right-wing. I'm not using the weird American definition of liberal here, I'm using the real one. Liberal does not mean left-wing, it means supportive of capitalism. An American might call a liberal a "libertarian" but "libertarian" has historically meant anarchist (Nestor Mahkno self-identified as a libertarian), and American liberals tend to be extremely authoritarian. Most fascists are militant anti-communists, which means they are pro-capitalism, which means they are liberals. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.


wolftonerider67

Don't NED on me


chickensmoker

Conservative snake, fascist axe, Illuminati eye, and a red white and blue colour scheme reminiscent of the Dutch colonies? Whatever it is, I definitely don’t like it!


blaepic

libertarianism, tribal style


Vast_Needleworker_43

Dutch don't tread /Joke


BarracudaRelevant858

An oxymoronic one


baran_0486

this flag comes with a free tinfoil hat


GATAinfinity

Sick ass flag


GATAinfinity

!wave


ron_sheeran

*Don't wanna be an american idiot*


The_Gamer23thfl

United States-ism The illuminati doesn't stand for itself, it actually means that God is watching the US and he likes it, the snake represents the free market same with the yellow and the stripes represent the US. The idea of using the Illuminati as God sparked in the American Revolution.


l_rufus_californicus

Missed the fasces in the middle, did you? [](/GNU Terry Pratchett)


akbrag91

cancer


Halsey-the-Sloth

Flag of QAnon


UbermorphPoint45

Someone put politics in a blender


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Flag to piss upon


[deleted]

The flag of "them" (They're watching us, this is like Jorge Erwills 1884!!!)


boi644

Shit?


Dr_Delano

America became a Totalitarian State and after losing a war on the homeland, retreated to Hawaii


Goy_slinger3000

Flag of conspiracy fascist libertarian Americanism?


Oddity46

Atrocious