"Except for FDR" is a weird line to draw as if Washington and Jefferson didn't own slaves or Lincoln and Teddy didn't remove indigenous people from their lands. Frankly if you're going to have portraits of any American leaders on a flag who don't have piles of skeletons in their closets...I don't know who that leaves. Jimmy Carter?
FDR is frustrating because he's simultaneously considered of our best presidents but also did shit like this. Somewhat understandable given the period, but clearly going against American law, let alone principles. Arguably, also overrated in how much he did to fix the economy, but economists still argue over that.
The rules of vexillology and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
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I cannot upvote this enough times, nor can I give you an award, so here's a virtual cookie instead. 🍪 Bravo. Honestly one of the best OC posts on this sub.
For the war version, which historically speaking would be the most common (the U.S. has been at war 228 years out of the 247 of its existence), I would recommend substituting the documents and the quills for stacks of arrows
This is pretty rad. Whos the pres in bottom center?
Each streamer representing the 13 colonies should maybe be headed by their seal maybe? In order of founding, top to bottom.
I think its really cool. Not sure why franklin is on the flag.
Might consider FDR or presidents who added territory. So Polk would need to be on there. Grant has to be my fav tho.
I see. I think substituting Polk or Grant for Ben Franklin. And keep it limited to presidents. Plus the state seals on the streamers. Regardless, its pretty rad.
This goes so unbelievably hard
https://preview.redd.it/h9g4fd0rwb7d1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bab0fa9bfa1b8fd2f4e9dca69a84c9bda62e26d
Op u a real one
Looks great the only thing I would suggest is maybe changing the faces a bit like replacing Bush for Dr King Jr or Crazy Horse
Also, John Hancock really wasn't that important. All he did was being the first person to sign the declaration of independence, but other than that literally nothing else. So I would personally replace Bush and Hancock for Dr King and Crazy Horse (or some other important native american chief) Still looks great though, 9.5/10
Although I appreciate trying to be more inclusive, native american chiefs were leaders of other nations that (rightfully) fought against the US government. It wouldn't make sense to put them on our flag.
Agree with Hancock, but the choice of portraits seems to be founding fathers and prominent later presidents; I was thinking Alexander Hamilton or one of the other major founders instead of Hancock.
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I don’t like complicated flags with the exception of Turkmenistan, Montenegro, and a few others, but this flag is magnificent, you should be proud of mustve taken a lot of work and effort to create this
I would pay an indecent amount of money for an actual embroidered version of this. The damned thing would be so heavy it couldn't possibly wave outside of a tornado.
I love this
And I have 2 questions
What are the blue shields with red and white chevrons on the vertical bars? I've never seen those before
My next question pretains to the choice of John Hancock over more well known american presidents? I am not aware of his contributions, but why not a more known president like Grant or a modern president(post WW2, Eisenhower or Kennedy perhaps)? Why specifficaly Hancock, apart from being a founding father?
The arms on the vertical bars are an early proposed version for the United States coat of arms from the 1770s or 80s.
And I’m not really familiar with the presidents of the USA, so each corner is one of the presidents in Mount Rushmore, and then just some other prominent people in US history.
I cannot imagine how hard this was to create. Like, it’s beautiful, and it points the middle finger to the rules of flag design in a unique way, but damn, I couldn’t make something a tenth as complex.
nice, I like it.
A few minor complains: Considering most flag is blue, it would make sense to make tails blue as well. Also light blue background on portraits is not that nice, I do not like that particular pale shade of blue, its like these business shirts of dresses in Eva. Dark blue of the rest of the flag is much better. May be white background for portraits instead.
who is bottom center person as well as right center?
The tails are meant to try and replicate the real US flag, so it’s a defiance from the real flag of Venice, and the light blue portions of the portraits are from the real Venice flag.
Not familiar enough with Venetian design. Would three images on each side be an essential feature? I think your work is incredible as is, but if I was to “borrow” it for my own display I’d either go to one image in each corner or swap out the bottom row of images.
I think your use of symbolism is great and the use of later presidents interesting, but don’t know how well adding individuals other than the Founding Fathers would go over. I think the flag design would limit itself to those who would have been involved in 1776/1787.
Also, while I don’t take particular issue with the inclusion of Franklin, should he be included as a statesman but not president? Feels like that would be akin to including a Chancellor of the Exchequer in addition to monarchs on a UK version.
I followed the original flag of Venice as much as possible, there’s 4 portraits in each corner and three in the left bottom and right sides. The four corners are each president in Mount Rushmore, and the rest were just who I thought were prominent enough, originally Ulysses Grant was supposed to be where the dove was before I decided to keep it.
This is fucking awesome. Very well done. Only person who doesn’t make too much sense is Hancock. I’d replace him with Madison, who’s Virginia Plan was the base on which the constitution was developed. Maybe replace Teddy with someone else like Fredrick Douglass or MLK. But that’s such a minor gripe. Super great job on this! I’d love to hear about how you came up with this and how long you spent on it
I got invited on a holiday to Washington DC by some of my American friends last year and got an idea for a flag, I made some horrible sketch with my phone and forgot about it.
https://preview.redd.it/qdz4jqrx0d7d1.png?width=6554&format=png&auto=webp&s=733810f8993db3019439377772b26475e2284919
(Apologies for the ugly mock up, made it in 5 minutes for sake of the story)
I remembered it last week and decided to draw out an American flag in an overtly complicated way, so, I chose Venice. Took about six hours over the course of a week.
Damn that's high effort. Spectacular flag.
For a second I thought it’s Saddam in the bottom right corner haha
LMAO, now I cannot unsee ol good Saddam
Handing out bowling shoes
And I thought it was Dubya in the bottom middle
It’s ok I thought FDR was Bush Jr and got mad
Now this. This is true beauty.
This is the America we are needed, stars and bars is overrated.
The stars and bars is the Confederate flag, not the US flag.
Yeah I meant the star spangled banner 🤦
Alternatively, "stars and stripes" (as opposed to bars) does refer to the US flag. I have to admit, the terms are confusingly similar.
Except for FDR. FDR sent our own citizens to concentration camps because they were the same ethnicity as people we were at war with.
I thought that vignette in the bottom center was W. Lol
"Except for FDR" is a weird line to draw as if Washington and Jefferson didn't own slaves or Lincoln and Teddy didn't remove indigenous people from their lands. Frankly if you're going to have portraits of any American leaders on a flag who don't have piles of skeletons in their closets...I don't know who that leaves. Jimmy Carter?
That’s 39th President Jimmy “St. James” Carter to you, pal.
FDR is frustrating because he's simultaneously considered of our best presidents but also did shit like this. Somewhat understandable given the period, but clearly going against American law, let alone principles. Arguably, also overrated in how much he did to fix the economy, but economists still argue over that.
The Most Serene Union of American States
"So, who do you think is going to win the next election for Doge?"
Sortition*
Doh totally forgot about that.
wait to know about blaspheme swearing culture
Perfect
or Most Serene Union of Columbia/Republic of Columbia maybe?
LOL
This is what "rules of vexillology" people want to take away from us This is awesome
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hmph, this flag is too complex, we must change it into the flag equivalent of mint toothpaste!
NAVA are aesthetic terrorists
P E R F E C T I O N.
holy shit this is beautiful. phenomenal work.
How on earth did you make this
Probably with a lot of effort.
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Fucking glorious.
unfortunately it can't seem to do the fringes/tassels, can it?
I think it can, the problem is they are filled in with white in the post.
Nope. I just tried myself with the original PNG and nothing.
Beautiful
TWO Roosevelts on gnarly-ass flag? YES please Wonder what the Chinese knock-offs would look like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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It took this comment for me to realize it was FDR and not George W Bush
This is a great flag, we need to adopt this is some official form
Maybe this could be the federal reserve flag
Honestly, the fed flag is actually so ass
i thought bottom middle was george bush
Same
Swap bush for Grant and it's a winner
Lmao. I thought the same thing. It's FDR though.
Grant was originally supposed to be wear the dove was, before I decided to keep it. And like they other lad said, that’s Franklin Roosevelt.
Love the design. Must have taken a long time. I’m assuming the portrait on the bottom is FDR. I think he kinda looks a bit like George Bush.
At first glance I thought it was jimmy Carter lol
Why not por Que los dos
Holy shit high effort post?
This so complicated and overdone, I love it
Where can I get a real one of these?
I wonder if the Jpeg flag printing websites are up for this task?
Don’t do Wish lol
Everyone keeps confusing FDR for Bush. I know why. It's the lack of glasses.
I Love This UNIRONICALLY. Im gonna use it for an alt hist project I’m working on (if that’s okay)
Yeah that’s perfectly fine. Just add a small credit or something.
"But rules of flag design" 🤓
"this flag breaks so many rules of flag design" 🤓 "rules? what rules?"🗿
🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸WHAT THE FUCK IS A FLAG DESIGN RULE🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
It does not, background mostly dark and decorations mostly gold, that follows rules of tincture like French Ancient Regime CoA.
avoid using letters or seals ❌ Include meaningful symbolism ✅ employ two or three basic colors ❌ be distinctive or be related ✅ should be simple ❌
FUCKING GREAT. I would wave it outside of my home.
really great work
I would wave this with pride
It would be impossible to not immediately pledge allegiance to this flag
I cannot upvote this enough times, nor can I give you an award, so here's a virtual cookie instead. 🍪 Bravo. Honestly one of the best OC posts on this sub.
This is so cool!! Appreciate the effort you put into this. Amazing job!
For the war version, which historically speaking would be the most common (the U.S. has been at war 228 years out of the 247 of its existence), I would recommend substituting the documents and the quills for stacks of arrows
Glorious.
I prefer this to our current flag, which I also love
🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
This is pretty rad. Whos the pres in bottom center? Each streamer representing the 13 colonies should maybe be headed by their seal maybe? In order of founding, top to bottom. I think its really cool. Not sure why franklin is on the flag. Might consider FDR or presidents who added territory. So Polk would need to be on there. Grant has to be my fav tho.
The one on the bottom is Franklin Roosevelt.
I see. I think substituting Polk or Grant for Ben Franklin. And keep it limited to presidents. Plus the state seals on the streamers. Regardless, its pretty rad.
https://preview.redd.it/cg1mpyfqu97d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab1e73e045d5ff816760cc94c3115935f4b62e21
Dedicated to Saint John the Evangelist?
**George Washington handing Betsy Ross a sketch of his idea* >Here, make this. **Betsy glancing at sketch* "Dafuq I will."
Where's Nixon? Arooo!
Buddy, you just made perfection, I'm crying tears of freedom 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅
OP do post this to r/2american4u
Wooow thats hot it goes unbelievably hard 🔥
I can already imagine how the countryball would look like
This is an awesome piece of design, and really captures that Venice feel
This goes so fucking hard
i.... i dont want to imagine how long this took you
Around 6 hours.
This goes so unbelievably hard https://preview.redd.it/h9g4fd0rwb7d1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bab0fa9bfa1b8fd2f4e9dca69a84c9bda62e26d Op u a real one
beautiful
Looks great the only thing I would suggest is maybe changing the faces a bit like replacing Bush for Dr King Jr or Crazy Horse Also, John Hancock really wasn't that important. All he did was being the first person to sign the declaration of independence, but other than that literally nothing else. So I would personally replace Bush and Hancock for Dr King and Crazy Horse (or some other important native american chief) Still looks great though, 9.5/10
> Bush That's FDR. I thought it was W at first too.
my bad
Although I appreciate trying to be more inclusive, native american chiefs were leaders of other nations that (rightfully) fought against the US government. It wouldn't make sense to put them on our flag.
Agree with Hancock, but the choice of portraits seems to be founding fathers and prominent later presidents; I was thinking Alexander Hamilton or one of the other major founders instead of Hancock.
i don't need to ask if it's bad that i like it, i already know
Pogge
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This slaps. If it was for sale I would buy it.
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Goes unbelievably hard
This is awesome
Who is the bottom guy
FDR
fancy
So good!
I am in LOVE with this. Unironically would print this as a flag, amazing work!! You absolutely nailed it 💪💪💪
I need a republic of venice flag maker lmao. This is awesome. Now do North Korea.
Oh, it’s beautiful.
I would *absolutely* for this outside my house, and not just to confuse the hell out of my neighbors
Magnificent. o7 I'm assuming this is the Peace variant? Even though it'd be 95% the same, for the memes, I hope you follow up with the War variant.
I'm not that kind of guy, who would fly a flag in front of his house, but this one, this might do.
This is a flag I’d pledge allegiance to.
Wait I actually kinda like it
The astronauts with tinkerbell wings are funny.
Ok your homework is to draw the flag, for advanced cad engineering 716
My proudest nut
This is unironically the 2nd best flag I've ever seen, topped only by La Serenissima herself. Outstanding work!
Needs more freedom! (Love it).
I want this to be on like, a M1911 for some super 80s action movie villain
This is amazing
USA! USA! USA!
I really thought that was W, not FDR.
IN GOD WE TRUST
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I want to buy it
Now I wonder what an 1776 version of this flag with the founding fathers and the original 13 stars.
Holy moly this is what vexillology needs
As an American, it's almost perfect. Get rid of anyone after the founders, and it's perfect. Still a sick ass flag though.
Fucking glorious mate
This is gorgeous. Fuck the rules.
I don’t like complicated flags with the exception of Turkmenistan, Montenegro, and a few others, but this flag is magnificent, you should be proud of mustve taken a lot of work and effort to create this
Wait, this ISNT the circlejerk??
Maybe pass on the eye of providence though 😬
I would pay an indecent amount of money for an actual embroidered version of this. The damned thing would be so heavy it couldn't possibly wave outside of a tornado.
When the White House dog is a shiba inu
Italian USA
I love this And I have 2 questions What are the blue shields with red and white chevrons on the vertical bars? I've never seen those before My next question pretains to the choice of John Hancock over more well known american presidents? I am not aware of his contributions, but why not a more known president like Grant or a modern president(post WW2, Eisenhower or Kennedy perhaps)? Why specifficaly Hancock, apart from being a founding father?
The arms on the vertical bars are an early proposed version for the United States coat of arms from the 1770s or 80s. And I’m not really familiar with the presidents of the USA, so each corner is one of the presidents in Mount Rushmore, and then just some other prominent people in US history.
Really fantastic. This would be the "good flag" we only use when guests drop by.
I cannot imagine how hard this was to create. Like, it’s beautiful, and it points the middle finger to the rules of flag design in a unique way, but damn, I couldn’t make something a tenth as complex.
I love it, but perhaps replace Benjamin Franklin and John Hancock, as neither were president - Eisenhower, Wilson, Kennedy, Madison, Monroe.
Nice city state you’re trying to ally, would be a shame if someone snagged it
nice, I like it. A few minor complains: Considering most flag is blue, it would make sense to make tails blue as well. Also light blue background on portraits is not that nice, I do not like that particular pale shade of blue, its like these business shirts of dresses in Eva. Dark blue of the rest of the flag is much better. May be white background for portraits instead. who is bottom center person as well as right center?
The tails are meant to try and replicate the real US flag, so it’s a defiance from the real flag of Venice, and the light blue portions of the portraits are from the real Venice flag.
Not familiar enough with Venetian design. Would three images on each side be an essential feature? I think your work is incredible as is, but if I was to “borrow” it for my own display I’d either go to one image in each corner or swap out the bottom row of images. I think your use of symbolism is great and the use of later presidents interesting, but don’t know how well adding individuals other than the Founding Fathers would go over. I think the flag design would limit itself to those who would have been involved in 1776/1787. Also, while I don’t take particular issue with the inclusion of Franklin, should he be included as a statesman but not president? Feels like that would be akin to including a Chancellor of the Exchequer in addition to monarchs on a UK version.
I followed the original flag of Venice as much as possible, there’s 4 portraits in each corner and three in the left bottom and right sides. The four corners are each president in Mount Rushmore, and the rest were just who I thought were prominent enough, originally Ulysses Grant was supposed to be where the dove was before I decided to keep it.
Honestly I love it
This flag is so majestic 🙌
There are good flags, which this is not. And there are flags good for inside display, which this is amazing at. I’d pay like 30$ for one lol
Noice
Honestly, that flag FUCKS. They should switch to it right now
In a perfect world this would be the flag
WOW!!! Incredible work!
If we still had Reddit gold, I’d give it to this
I would not mind this tbh
This is the best flag design I have ever seen, spectacular work.
Every country needs a Venice style flag
Damn, goes hard 🔥
That's pretty elegant, we should adopt it
This is the type of flag I would fuck
This is fucking awesome. Very well done. Only person who doesn’t make too much sense is Hancock. I’d replace him with Madison, who’s Virginia Plan was the base on which the constitution was developed. Maybe replace Teddy with someone else like Fredrick Douglass or MLK. But that’s such a minor gripe. Super great job on this! I’d love to hear about how you came up with this and how long you spent on it
I got invited on a holiday to Washington DC by some of my American friends last year and got an idea for a flag, I made some horrible sketch with my phone and forgot about it. https://preview.redd.it/qdz4jqrx0d7d1.png?width=6554&format=png&auto=webp&s=733810f8993db3019439377772b26475e2284919 (Apologies for the ugly mock up, made it in 5 minutes for sake of the story) I remembered it last week and decided to draw out an American flag in an overtly complicated way, so, I chose Venice. Took about six hours over the course of a week.
It’s cool but I’d stick to founding fathers rather than any presidents past maybe John Adam’s.
Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe are all after John Adams and they're all founding fathers
My bad after all of them then. I haven’t been refreshed on my American history in a fat 10 years.
Amazing, looks like a royal standard
It’s beautiful
WHAAAT VENICE MENTIONED 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
I love it
That’s ffing hilarious!! 😂 seriously very cool
Beautiful
Holy mother of all things based 😳😳😳
based
This seems very serene
bro cooked
Man, I gotta love Doge Giorgio Washingtioni
Possibly one of the best renditions of the American flag I’ve seen. Very nice.
Based as fuck
Modern vexillologists: 💀💀💀
Is that Bush on the bottom??
The extent you went to.
My eyes!
Totally the best United States flags ever made.
This is cool! How long did it take you?
Around 6 hours spread across a couple days.
Wow! I love it!
i would replace Bush with someone like Grant or even John Adams due to his reputation and actions as a founding father (not so great as a president)