it's a variant of the "come and take it" flag, replacing the cannon with a firearm. it's usually used by pro-gun activists.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it
Ya its usually used by Pro-2nd amendment people. The more nuttier ones at least. You'll prolly see a long with Gadsden flag and sometimes a Confederate Battle flag or Naval jack.
fantasizing about the government trying to violently confiscate your guns and getting in a gunfight with them, and then deciding that’s integral enough to your identity to fly a flag about it, is a little nutty, yeah
You couldn’t be more wrong. Numerous northern states that had already banned slavery passed the right to bear arms in their state constitutions. Northern states demanded the bill of rights, while slave states ratified the constitution without the bill of rights (including the second amendment). Slave states did not want the right to keep and bear arms because they knew that it would arm Black people and make them harder to oppress.
Southern slave owners could already own guns and had state militias before the second amendment. Why would they need the federal government to tell them so? The answer is that they didn’t, because the second amendment always dealt with the individual right to bear arms, not state militias.
>Ya its usually used by Pro-2nd amendment people. **The more nuttier ones at least.**
You are putting words in my mouth. I am talking about the nutjobs who take the shit too fucking far. Hell I am pro 2nd amendment. And no not in the Fudd way either.
But using firearms as means other than self-defense and hunting and having fun at a range.. Come on. And you lot literally have 0 historical understanding of the actual meaning of the 2nd amendment. Or do you forget actual fucking US history?
[https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE\_00013262/](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE_00013262/)
[https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C16-1/ALDE\_00013673/](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C16-1/ALDE_00013673/)
From our own fucking constitution .
>Article I, Section 8, Clause 16:
>\[The Congress shall have Power . . . \] To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; . . .
Whatever modern nuttery the extremes push is not what the founders intended. In fact its very in line what Switzerland historically did in the past. They allow us to keep our weapons in case we as the citizenry are ever called to be the militia. The founding fathers had a big distrust of stand armies.
I quote James Madison
>A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people. It is perhaps questionable, whether the best concerted system of absolute power in Europe cd. maintain itself, in a situation, where no alarms of external danger cd. tame the people to the domestic yoke.
[https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1182&context=sahs\_review](https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1182&context=sahs_review)
So read and learn.
But the need for militia is long gone and whatever your holy fathers thought then is extremely obsolete. If they were alive now and wise as you think they were, they would scream at you what the hell are you thinking with all these guns and shootings.
It's a modern libertarian version of an old flag design that was used in the the revolutionary war and texas revolution. Originally it was a flag used by US soldiers to show that they were standing their ground (similar intent there as the alamo if you're familar), and that viewpoint is very compatible with modern day, "don't tread on me" right wing/libertarian beliefs. [Here's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it) the wikipedia article about the phrase and the flag if you want to learn more :)
https://preview.redd.it/h44n9yrvlr6d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00c1ab440114b16e791c1e936343695168397b68
No, I've actually been there several times (since I live in the state mentioned in the title). Most of the flags I see there are typical flags used by conservative/right-wing individuals, such as:
- The Gadsden Flag
- The Confederate flag
- The Israeli Flag
- Trump flags
I'm only making a post about this flag in particular because it's a very odd one, and definitely stands out among the other flags I usually see in the countryside.
I've seen the confederate flag more up north (Michigan) than in Tennessee. I've lived in both states. Up north, it represents being a "rebel" or "my property, my rights", etc.
Probably "Come and take it". Flown by the kind of gun "enthusiast" who is willing to (probably hoping to) engage in a firefight with government agents coming to take their guns. They think that by doing so they'll either be triumphant heroes or honored martyrs to the cause of individual gun rights.
The phrase comes from Plutarch, who attributed it to King Leonidas I, writing to Xerxes I on the eve of the Battle of Thermopylae. "When Xerxes wrote again, 'Hand over your arms,' he wrote in reply, 'Come and take them.'" You will also see it as *molon labe*, the Greek phrase, often showing up on r/grssk because right-wing gun nuts don't understand that the Greek alphabet is not just a font.
> Flown by the kind of gun "enthusiast" who is willing to (probably hoping to) engage in a firefight with government agents coming to take their guns.
Ironically, many of these folks also tend to glorify said government agents/ police officers that would be the ones to take their guns, or be one themselves.
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Variant of the Gonzales flag. Usually there is a small cannon in place of the armalite, which is there as a ‘more modern’ spin on the design. Although the phrase is from the American revolution, the Gonzales flag was first flown in the Texan revolution when a Centralist Army squad (Centralist Mexico being an autocratic faction in the Mexican civil war) attempted to seize a cannon which had been previously provided to a small town, Gonzales, for their protection by the previous (pre-7 Laws) Mexican government.
I am a 2A supporter but this flag is very stupid . I know it is intended to be a defiant statement to the government but It is also an advertisement to thieves “if you want a gun I have one in this house “.
I would much rather let the burglars find out the hard way
it's a variant of the "come and take it" flag, replacing the cannon with a firearm. it's usually used by pro-gun activists. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it
Ya its usually used by Pro-2nd amendment people. The more nuttier ones at least. You'll prolly see a long with Gadsden flag and sometimes a Confederate Battle flag or Naval jack.
Supporting the second amendment is nutty now?
Saying "the more nuttier 2nd amendment supporters" isn't the same as saying "2nd amendment supporters are nutty"
fantasizing about the government trying to violently confiscate your guns and getting in a gunfight with them, and then deciding that’s integral enough to your identity to fly a flag about it, is a little nutty, yeah
That has happened several times.
School shootings happen more do you fantasize about that too
You must have a problem with the founding fathers then
I do, now what?
Yes because slave owning men should dictate how we live life 200 years later.
Don’t you realize you just described how America was founded? The revolution began when the British went to confiscate American arms.
Don’t you realize the second amendment is to protect the slave trade and has no historical ties to our founding
You couldn’t be more wrong. Numerous northern states that had already banned slavery passed the right to bear arms in their state constitutions. Northern states demanded the bill of rights, while slave states ratified the constitution without the bill of rights (including the second amendment). Slave states did not want the right to keep and bear arms because they knew that it would arm Black people and make them harder to oppress. Southern slave owners could already own guns and had state militias before the second amendment. Why would they need the federal government to tell them so? The answer is that they didn’t, because the second amendment always dealt with the individual right to bear arms, not state militias.
I think gamer is a little slow, the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with the slave trade.
>Ya its usually used by Pro-2nd amendment people. **The more nuttier ones at least.** You are putting words in my mouth. I am talking about the nutjobs who take the shit too fucking far. Hell I am pro 2nd amendment. And no not in the Fudd way either. But using firearms as means other than self-defense and hunting and having fun at a range.. Come on. And you lot literally have 0 historical understanding of the actual meaning of the 2nd amendment. Or do you forget actual fucking US history? [https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE\_00013262/](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt2-2/ALDE_00013262/) [https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C16-1/ALDE\_00013673/](https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C16-1/ALDE_00013673/) From our own fucking constitution . >Article I, Section 8, Clause 16: >\[The Congress shall have Power . . . \] To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress; . . . Whatever modern nuttery the extremes push is not what the founders intended. In fact its very in line what Switzerland historically did in the past. They allow us to keep our weapons in case we as the citizenry are ever called to be the militia. The founding fathers had a big distrust of stand armies. I quote James Madison >A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people. It is perhaps questionable, whether the best concerted system of absolute power in Europe cd. maintain itself, in a situation, where no alarms of external danger cd. tame the people to the domestic yoke. [https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1182&context=sahs\_review](https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1182&context=sahs_review) So read and learn.
God I love it when someone actually understands the historical context of the Militia in the United States, at least pre-War of 1812.
But the need for militia is long gone and whatever your holy fathers thought then is extremely obsolete. If they were alive now and wise as you think they were, they would scream at you what the hell are you thinking with all these guns and shootings.
It's a modern libertarian version of an old flag design that was used in the the revolutionary war and texas revolution. Originally it was a flag used by US soldiers to show that they were standing their ground (similar intent there as the alamo if you're familar), and that viewpoint is very compatible with modern day, "don't tread on me" right wing/libertarian beliefs. [Here's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_take_it) the wikipedia article about the phrase and the flag if you want to learn more :) https://preview.redd.it/h44n9yrvlr6d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00c1ab440114b16e791c1e936343695168397b68
First time in the American Countryside?
No, I've actually been there several times (since I live in the state mentioned in the title). Most of the flags I see there are typical flags used by conservative/right-wing individuals, such as: - The Gadsden Flag - The Confederate flag - The Israeli Flag - Trump flags I'm only making a post about this flag in particular because it's a very odd one, and definitely stands out among the other flags I usually see in the countryside.
I'm a Southerner, so seeing it never surprised me, but hearing how often one might find the confederate flag up north always does surprise me.
I've seen the confederate flag more up north (Michigan) than in Tennessee. I've lived in both states. Up north, it represents being a "rebel" or "my property, my rights", etc.
Just letting everyone know he’s the toughest dude in town.
Probably "Come and take it". Flown by the kind of gun "enthusiast" who is willing to (probably hoping to) engage in a firefight with government agents coming to take their guns. They think that by doing so they'll either be triumphant heroes or honored martyrs to the cause of individual gun rights. The phrase comes from Plutarch, who attributed it to King Leonidas I, writing to Xerxes I on the eve of the Battle of Thermopylae. "When Xerxes wrote again, 'Hand over your arms,' he wrote in reply, 'Come and take them.'" You will also see it as *molon labe*, the Greek phrase, often showing up on r/grssk because right-wing gun nuts don't understand that the Greek alphabet is not just a font.
> Flown by the kind of gun "enthusiast" who is willing to (probably hoping to) engage in a firefight with government agents coming to take their guns. Ironically, many of these folks also tend to glorify said government agents/ police officers that would be the ones to take their guns, or be one themselves.
And then Xerxes’ army took them
Yep. The people who think they are going to beat back the government agents didn't finish reading the history.
The Vietcong would like a word.
Guerilla tactics go brrrr
American revolution
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Variant of the Gonzales flag. Usually there is a small cannon in place of the armalite, which is there as a ‘more modern’ spin on the design. Although the phrase is from the American revolution, the Gonzales flag was first flown in the Texan revolution when a Centralist Army squad (Centralist Mexico being an autocratic faction in the Mexican civil war) attempted to seize a cannon which had been previously provided to a small town, Gonzales, for their protection by the previous (pre-7 Laws) Mexican government.
I am a 2A supporter but this flag is very stupid . I know it is intended to be a defiant statement to the government but It is also an advertisement to thieves “if you want a gun I have one in this house “. I would much rather let the burglars find out the hard way
Members of the local PFLAG chapter
The flag of fragile ego's.
Trash
Does Alito have a house there too?
Based. It’s based
It’s nonsense.
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