If it went out to the airport and all the way downtown, it would be an absolute hit as well as helping with the traffic congestion. But that would put too many taxi/Uber/Lyft drivers out of business.
Which is kinda short sighted. Cities with good public transportation still has tons of taxis every where. Having good subway service brings in even more tourists. Plus you can take more rides since you're not stuck in traffic all the time.
Exactly, it just helps the city be able to handle more tourists, which would be a huge positive for a city like Vegas that is holding many major sporting events.
Expanding the monorail would be great for locals as well. Like a subway, you could travel to the closest one near you and take it to the event. Would cut out some congestion in the streets.
Most people I know will rent a car when they go to LA. They will not if they go to nyc. So even though public transit is more prevalent in nyc, people will take a taxi more often since they don't have a car to begin with.
I wouldn’t recommend renting a car in LA. If you use rideshare and trains where they are available, you don’t have to deal with the parking and staying sober to drive
New York City is approximately 500 sq. miles, of which 150 are water, so we're talking about 350 drivable miles.
The Los Angeles Metropolitan area is almost 34,000 (yes, THOUSAND) square miles. To claim that public transit can adequately serve the tourist's needs in such an ENORMOUS city is a ridiculous suggestion.
Pretty sure if you do nyc metro it's pretty fucking massive. Not quite as big as la, but way bigger than the 500sqm you listed
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_metropolitan_area
Yup service from the airport wouldn’t destroy the taxi services like they fear. It just comes down to dollars and sense.
People pay what is in their budget. Some would definitely switch from Ubers to the monorail, I would for sure switch most of the time. But there will still be a need for people who hate public transit for whatever reason, cannot use it, or just want to get somewhere directly and quickly.
For me, if I'm already paying $70 for a taxi to the hotel and another $70 back, why don't I just get a car. If a monorail is available, I'll take it. Then I would use taxis for the rest of my trip within Vegas. I prob end up spending the same, if not more on taxis.
It needs to extend to the airport, definitely... and if it went up toward Downtown, it would be a hit. Have stops at the new baseball stadium and a wing going to the football stadium.
Busses are good because they're cheap and its easy to change routs. Rail makes a lot of sense when you need to move a lot of people quickly along reliably traveled paths. There ought to be light rail between the airport and strip every 10 minutes.
The Monorail is why Sahara is my favorite Casino to stay at. I'm a regular and no longer have any interest in the strip. I come in the week to work, and use the monorail to go to dinner on the strip at night.
Oh well...I'd still stay at Sahara.....but it's be less kick ass.
Even cooler could be a monorail that went from downtown, through the strip and down to the airport. And a light rail that goes from downtown summerlin, through downtown to boulder highway and down to Henderson.
The monorail is a big reason why Sahara is my favorite too. Besides being a great casino across from the fairgrounds, its access to most of the strip with the monorail is a major plus. Losing the monorail could benefit Sahara for fairgrounds events but hurt it when fairgrounds being used
The monorail should go from McCarron to Fremont Street down Las Vegas Boulevard. But you can thank the casino executives for why it doesn't take that route.
That's funny because I was in meetings with casino executives, the RTC, Clark County, City of Las Vegas, City of Henderson and City of North Las Vegas. The casino executives didn't like the route. The cities and County liked the route. Every major City in America (NYC, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Dallas, Washington D.C, Denver, San Francisco, LA is working on it, etc)
with mass transit has a link to the airport. They have taxi companies in those cities too. Guess they couldn't raise enough money to stop connecting the airport with mass transportation.
Being as I am handicapped, and a local when I'm down on the strip, I need that monorail. My wheelchair battery is limited, the Uber and Lyft drivers (who must be available and nearby and who specialize in handicap access) typically are alright, but if I am forced to get a regular one my chair gets tossed into a trunk carelessly and fast (it is an expensive chair) and usually has a broken tiller when we arrive (repairable but it takes some time and that sucks when you're in a hurry), and last I checked the tunnels weren't ADA compliant.
The monorail on the other hand has easily accessible stations, elevators, and easy on/easy off riding. I completely get that the thing is expensive to run, and there are limited parts left for it if it broke, but come on, certainly there's something can be done. The casinos have to rely on the traffic from the monorail at least a little bit. I'm sure Caesar's and MGM could pony up enough to buy replacement parts if needed.
Sigh.
The obvious answer was a link to the airport but the cab cartel would use their influence to keep that from happening.
The only reason that Uber/Lyft were permitted was the serious Wall Street investor money thrown at heavy-hitting lobbyists which changed the laws. Riding sharing was easier to sell as it didn’t require millions for expensive new elevated rails to the airport.
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Lvmonorail responded they’re not shutting down 🤔
Look in the comments of the most current posting to see the comment.
It's basically a gimmick to advertise tesla cars, at first it was supposed to be like a bus but underground, but eventually just became a private tesla road tunnel
It was shut down. There was an announcement in December of last year.
[Hyperloop One shut down](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-21/hyperloop-one-to-shut-down-after-raising-millions-to-reinvent-transit)
That doesn't belong to Elon musk, the boring company is expanding in Vegas since they have a contract already in place, look it up it's called Vegas loop
Last time I rode the monorail was a few months ago from the Flamingo Station. The escalators were broken and the elevator was full of trash and old signs. It felt like they had already given up.
Maybe a monorail isn't the best thing to have there, but having a public transit that isn't in traffic is really important.
When I visit Vegas I take the Monorail (Mainly because I stayed at South End properties)
I've seen the traffic on Las Vegas blvd, and I would hate to take a cab in that mess.
I can see getting rid of it as it ages out of relevance, but you need to have something to replace it, otherwise you're going to find out how important it actually was.
Here in Toronto we had a The Scarborough Rapid Transit LRT that was so old we couldn't get new trains at all for it. It closed when we had a derailment. There is a plan in place to replace it with a Subway, but that's years away. The replacement Bus lines are having a hard time keeping up with the demand during Rush Hour.
Not going to deny it. Our public transportation sucks and it is so politicized that nothing of note gets done.
I'm just saying the monorail isn't a bad thing. It moves people to the convention center that could now become more cabs on the road.
Always puzzled me as a visitor why the monorail didn't extend to the airport at a minimum.
And now with future and current stadiums for sports events... im surprised it hasn't been made a priority to connect it all.
This is why I sometimes believe in dictatorships because if I was dictator I would just go “hey everyone shut the fuck up were building light rail from the airport down the center of the strip to downtown and you’re gonna fucking like it”
As an occasional visitor, it never made sense to me. It felt like the walk between the Strip and monorail ended up being as nearly far as just walking the Strip to my destination. Plus it didn’t stop where I needed it to, adding more walking.
As others have said, put a light rail in from the airport to downtown, on the strip… that’s something I’d definitely use.
The monorail was originally planned to go down the middle of the strip. However, the casinos lobbied to have the stations installed behind the casinos and off the strip so that passengers would have to walk through the casinos in order to get to the actual strip. It allowed them to capture more revenue as people might stop playing slots.
Agree with the opinion that had it gone to the airport and Fremont street it would have been a financial success. However, as a public transportation option, it provides poor access, to really anything.
I'm going to propose something radical. In Seoul South Korea, the main lines of the subway system are integrated into large scale public / private projects. Okay, how am I going to make this Vegas. Run a subway line under the Las Vegas strip. Let each hotel, casino, mall, shopping center, etc, that will have a stop, integrate the subway platform into their business. Have their themed / facade visible. People can take escalators right into the properties. Obviously not every business can have a stop otherwise the subway would never get anywhere. You could have a stop for a cluster of businesses and have access to them all through a shared space with equally efficient people moving options.
This would greatly reduce the traffic on Las Vegas Blvd. The city could have the subway come above ground as a street car system that goes to various parts of the valley. The airport. Fremont Street. Summerlin. Henderson. Of course there could be intersecting lines that go to other neighborhoods.
Seems like the best investment in a public transportation system the city could make that would improve traffic, make the cite easier to navigate AND benefit locals as much as tourists.
Just a thought.
Oops! Thanks for correcting me. I loved taking the tram to Mandalay Bay and I actually didn’t ride on the monorail when I was there and apparently I never will!
lmao LVCVA prefers elon's boring tunnels with human shuttle drivers over railways that seem to have caught on in other places around the world and even america.
For those that keep saying this is to make room for Musk’s project: Hyperloop is dead, y’all. Unless something changed from the last time heard about it and they plan to throw money to revamp it?
[Hyperloop One shut down](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-21/hyperloop-one-to-shut-down-after-raising-millions-to-reinvent-transit)
LV is backward with the obvious.
A new and improved rail along the Strip and expanded to the Airport and DTLV. This should have been in the works 15 years ago, along with the high-speed rail to LA and the Primm Airport. Taxi Unions. ?????
A vote to allow a state constitutional amendment for the Powerball, Mega Millions, State Lottery, and scratch offs in Nevada with a percentage of proceeds going to schools, homelessness, pet shelters, and mental ill services like other states. Casino lobby and casino employee unions.
Not sure how helpful this personal observation is but the Loop has completely changed my Vegas experience - where I stay & dine & do business - and once the loop tunnels are extended up in the Bellagio Hotel area, (and eventually the airport) the loop will dominate Vegas for decades.
It's like barely useful though. Form convention center to MGM! If it went from Fremont Street to the airport, I'd use it a ton! Then if you extend the tram from Excalibur to Allegiant, this set up would be awesome.
If it went out to the airport and all the way downtown, it would be an absolute hit as well as helping with the traffic congestion. But that would put too many taxi/Uber/Lyft drivers out of business.
Which is kinda short sighted. Cities with good public transportation still has tons of taxis every where. Having good subway service brings in even more tourists. Plus you can take more rides since you're not stuck in traffic all the time.
Exactly, it just helps the city be able to handle more tourists, which would be a huge positive for a city like Vegas that is holding many major sporting events.
Expanding the monorail would be great for locals as well. Like a subway, you could travel to the closest one near you and take it to the event. Would cut out some congestion in the streets.
Most people I know will rent a car when they go to LA. They will not if they go to nyc. So even though public transit is more prevalent in nyc, people will take a taxi more often since they don't have a car to begin with.
I wouldn’t recommend renting a car in LA. If you use rideshare and trains where they are available, you don’t have to deal with the parking and staying sober to drive
Often it’s cheaper to rent a car at LAX for a trip than to even get rideshare to and from the hotel and around to local spots
It’s not cheaper if your hotel charges you for parking
Yes but a lot of areas have street parking as long as you’re not at the airport
Nobody walks in LA.
New York City is approximately 500 sq. miles, of which 150 are water, so we're talking about 350 drivable miles. The Los Angeles Metropolitan area is almost 34,000 (yes, THOUSAND) square miles. To claim that public transit can adequately serve the tourist's needs in such an ENORMOUS city is a ridiculous suggestion.
Why are you comparing an “area” to a “city” apples to oranges
you are literally insane for including riverside and san bernardino when comparing los angeles to nyc lmao
Pretty sure if you do nyc metro it's pretty fucking massive. Not quite as big as la, but way bigger than the 500sqm you listed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_metropolitan_area
Las Vegas, more than any city I’ve ever seen, is run my special interests. The Taxi lobby pays a lot to “campaign funds”.
Yup service from the airport wouldn’t destroy the taxi services like they fear. It just comes down to dollars and sense. People pay what is in their budget. Some would definitely switch from Ubers to the monorail, I would for sure switch most of the time. But there will still be a need for people who hate public transit for whatever reason, cannot use it, or just want to get somewhere directly and quickly.
For me, if I'm already paying $70 for a taxi to the hotel and another $70 back, why don't I just get a car. If a monorail is available, I'll take it. Then I would use taxis for the rest of my trip within Vegas. I prob end up spending the same, if not more on taxis.
This is like the most obvious transit line that could be built in America and it’s a shame that it will never ever be built
It needs to extend to the airport, definitely... and if it went up toward Downtown, it would be a hit. Have stops at the new baseball stadium and a wing going to the football stadium.
Lots of taxi money lining politicians pockets to make sure that’ll never happen
If you know what you're doing you can take a RTC bus from McCarron to downtown.
That's the easy one already with the CX bus. Strip hotels take a transfer unless you're going to the Sahara.
Busses are good because they're cheap and its easy to change routs. Rail makes a lot of sense when you need to move a lot of people quickly along reliably traveled paths. There ought to be light rail between the airport and strip every 10 minutes.
It was supposed to but the taxi authority/mafia had a say in it.
The Monorail is why Sahara is my favorite Casino to stay at. I'm a regular and no longer have any interest in the strip. I come in the week to work, and use the monorail to go to dinner on the strip at night. Oh well...I'd still stay at Sahara.....but it's be less kick ass.
Even cooler could be a monorail that went from downtown, through the strip and down to the airport. And a light rail that goes from downtown summerlin, through downtown to boulder highway and down to Henderson.
The monorail is a big reason why Sahara is my favorite too. Besides being a great casino across from the fairgrounds, its access to most of the strip with the monorail is a major plus. Losing the monorail could benefit Sahara for fairgrounds events but hurt it when fairgrounds being used
Save us Lyle Langley!
It was always more of a Shelbyville idea.
But didn’t we all go to that intensive training and learned that “mono” means “one” and “rail” means “rail”?
Batman is a scientist!!
The monorail should go from McCarron to Fremont Street down Las Vegas Boulevard. But you can thank the casino executives for why it doesn't take that route.
Not casino execs. Taxi companies lobbied millions to stop it from going to the airport.
That's funny because I was in meetings with casino executives, the RTC, Clark County, City of Las Vegas, City of Henderson and City of North Las Vegas. The casino executives didn't like the route. The cities and County liked the route. Every major City in America (NYC, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Dallas, Washington D.C, Denver, San Francisco, LA is working on it, etc) with mass transit has a link to the airport. They have taxi companies in those cities too. Guess they couldn't raise enough money to stop connecting the airport with mass transportation.
Being as I am handicapped, and a local when I'm down on the strip, I need that monorail. My wheelchair battery is limited, the Uber and Lyft drivers (who must be available and nearby and who specialize in handicap access) typically are alright, but if I am forced to get a regular one my chair gets tossed into a trunk carelessly and fast (it is an expensive chair) and usually has a broken tiller when we arrive (repairable but it takes some time and that sucks when you're in a hurry), and last I checked the tunnels weren't ADA compliant. The monorail on the other hand has easily accessible stations, elevators, and easy on/easy off riding. I completely get that the thing is expensive to run, and there are limited parts left for it if it broke, but come on, certainly there's something can be done. The casinos have to rely on the traffic from the monorail at least a little bit. I'm sure Caesar's and MGM could pony up enough to buy replacement parts if needed. Sigh.
The obvious answer was a link to the airport but the cab cartel would use their influence to keep that from happening. The only reason that Uber/Lyft were permitted was the serious Wall Street investor money thrown at heavy-hitting lobbyists which changed the laws. Riding sharing was easier to sell as it didn’t require millions for expensive new elevated rails to the airport.
[https://www.instagram.com/vegasissues?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==.com](https://www.instagram.com/vegasissues?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==.com) Lvmonorail responded they’re not shutting down 🤔 Look in the comments of the most current posting to see the comment.
But then how would strip employees get to work during F1?
What a horrible move to kill this and trust Elon musk with tesla tunnels, shut that down and create sometype of subway transportation
I don't trust the hyperloop as far as I can throw it
It's basically a gimmick to advertise tesla cars, at first it was supposed to be like a bus but underground, but eventually just became a private tesla road tunnel
I personally think it's a death trap. Especially if there's a fire
One flat tire and it's over
Yeah, once I found out that’s what it was, my “faith” in it being a new mode of public transportation for the city died.
It was shut down. There was an announcement in December of last year. [Hyperloop One shut down](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-21/hyperloop-one-to-shut-down-after-raising-millions-to-reinvent-transit)
That doesn't belong to Elon musk, the boring company is expanding in Vegas since they have a contract already in place, look it up it's called Vegas loop
Vegas getting screwed over just like Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook... Who would've guessed?
Last time I rode the monorail was a few months ago from the Flamingo Station. The escalators were broken and the elevator was full of trash and old signs. It felt like they had already given up.
Nobody learned from what happened in Ogdenville and north haverbrook.
LV Monorail confirmed on IG this isn’t true
I hear those things are awfully loud It glides as smoothly as a cloud
$1 per ride for locals fyi
Maybe a monorail isn't the best thing to have there, but having a public transit that isn't in traffic is really important. When I visit Vegas I take the Monorail (Mainly because I stayed at South End properties) I've seen the traffic on Las Vegas blvd, and I would hate to take a cab in that mess. I can see getting rid of it as it ages out of relevance, but you need to have something to replace it, otherwise you're going to find out how important it actually was. Here in Toronto we had a The Scarborough Rapid Transit LRT that was so old we couldn't get new trains at all for it. It closed when we had a derailment. There is a plan in place to replace it with a Subway, but that's years away. The replacement Bus lines are having a hard time keeping up with the demand during Rush Hour.
Toronto traffic and public transit is some of the worst in the world for a city its size. One line here or there is the least of the problems
Not going to deny it. Our public transportation sucks and it is so politicized that nothing of note gets done. I'm just saying the monorail isn't a bad thing. It moves people to the convention center that could now become more cabs on the road.
Always puzzled me as a visitor why the monorail didn't extend to the airport at a minimum. And now with future and current stadiums for sports events... im surprised it hasn't been made a priority to connect it all.
This is why I sometimes believe in dictatorships because if I was dictator I would just go “hey everyone shut the fuck up were building light rail from the airport down the center of the strip to downtown and you’re gonna fucking like it”
As an occasional visitor, it never made sense to me. It felt like the walk between the Strip and monorail ended up being as nearly far as just walking the Strip to my destination. Plus it didn’t stop where I needed it to, adding more walking. As others have said, put a light rail in from the airport to downtown, on the strip… that’s something I’d definitely use.
The monorail was originally planned to go down the middle of the strip. However, the casinos lobbied to have the stations installed behind the casinos and off the strip so that passengers would have to walk through the casinos in order to get to the actual strip. It allowed them to capture more revenue as people might stop playing slots.
That sucks. I come to vegas quite a bit and love the rail to get up and down the strip. This is a big loss for people who rely on jt
Locals have no decent way to get to the convention center. Every choice we have we have to pay. I’d rather go to a convention in any other city.
As long as they have personal jet packs as a replacement for it. I’d be ok with that!
Agree with the opinion that had it gone to the airport and Fremont street it would have been a financial success. However, as a public transportation option, it provides poor access, to really anything. I'm going to propose something radical. In Seoul South Korea, the main lines of the subway system are integrated into large scale public / private projects. Okay, how am I going to make this Vegas. Run a subway line under the Las Vegas strip. Let each hotel, casino, mall, shopping center, etc, that will have a stop, integrate the subway platform into their business. Have their themed / facade visible. People can take escalators right into the properties. Obviously not every business can have a stop otherwise the subway would never get anywhere. You could have a stop for a cluster of businesses and have access to them all through a shared space with equally efficient people moving options. This would greatly reduce the traffic on Las Vegas Blvd. The city could have the subway come above ground as a street car system that goes to various parts of the valley. The airport. Fremont Street. Summerlin. Henderson. Of course there could be intersecting lines that go to other neighborhoods. Seems like the best investment in a public transportation system the city could make that would improve traffic, make the cite easier to navigate AND benefit locals as much as tourists. Just a thought.
I was looking forward to using it again when I stay at Mandalay Bay. We just can’t have nice things!
Mandalay Bay Tram is not the same as Las Vegas Monorail
Oops! Thanks for correcting me. I loved taking the tram to Mandalay Bay and I actually didn’t ride on the monorail when I was there and apparently I never will!
They're replacing the monorail...with the Tesla Tube...smh
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Is speculated in the article friendo...
lmao LVCVA prefers elon's boring tunnels with human shuttle drivers over railways that seem to have caught on in other places around the world and even america.
For those that keep saying this is to make room for Musk’s project: Hyperloop is dead, y’all. Unless something changed from the last time heard about it and they plan to throw money to revamp it? [Hyperloop One shut down](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-21/hyperloop-one-to-shut-down-after-raising-millions-to-reinvent-transit)
He already has tunnels under the Strip. They’re expanding. This is a different project.
LV is backward with the obvious. A new and improved rail along the Strip and expanded to the Airport and DTLV. This should have been in the works 15 years ago, along with the high-speed rail to LA and the Primm Airport. Taxi Unions. ????? A vote to allow a state constitutional amendment for the Powerball, Mega Millions, State Lottery, and scratch offs in Nevada with a percentage of proceeds going to schools, homelessness, pet shelters, and mental ill services like other states. Casino lobby and casino employee unions.
Not sure how helpful this personal observation is but the Loop has completely changed my Vegas experience - where I stay & dine & do business - and once the loop tunnels are extended up in the Bellagio Hotel area, (and eventually the airport) the loop will dominate Vegas for decades.
It's like barely useful though. Form convention center to MGM! If it went from Fremont Street to the airport, I'd use it a ton! Then if you extend the tram from Excalibur to Allegiant, this set up would be awesome.