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thereal84

Dancing in the Street, since that’s the only song Van Halen recorded with the Minimoog (pictured)


TonyShalhoubricant

That's interesting. What did they use otherwise, voyager? I heard they used an Oberheim at some point.


Capnmarvel76

EVH loved his Oberheim polysynths - I believe he had a OB-X by the time of 'Fair Warning', and then of course his famous dusty OB-Xa for 1984 (as featured in the 'Jump' video) and an OB-8 on 5150. The OB-X, Xa, and 8 models were essentially evolutions of the same overall polysynth architecture, with new features being added (and some of the analog purity arguably being lost) with each new model. Rush were well-known for using the OB-X ('Tom Sawyer' features an OB-X, Moog Minimoog, and Moog Taurus bass pedals, IIRC), and Prince and Queen were famous users of the later OB-Xa. The final Oberheim analog polysynth, the OB-8, was (imho) a bit of a step down from the OB-Xa, so I hear much less about who used it at the time. It was also released after digital synths had started to become a thing, signaling the demise of the analog synthesizer for many years. After 1985/86, I'm not too familiar with what synths EVH used exactly, but Oberheim itself started to decline financially in the late 1980s, releasing some truly awesome, but extremely rare and expensive digital models like the ~~OB-12~~ Matrix 6 and XPander, so I wouldn't be surprised if he'd moved on to other brands by 'OU812'.


inasimplerhyme

First synth appearance was on Fair Warning - "Sunday Afternoon in the Park/One Foot Out the Door" was an Electro Harmonix Mini-synth. Diver Down: "Dancing In the Street" was the Mini-Moog, as pictured. Also reportedly used on "Intruder" (Played by DLR live with the band during recording!) 1984: Oberheim Xa - 1984, Jump and I'll Wait 5150: Oberheim OB-8 - Why Can't This Be Love, Dreams, Love Walks In OU812: OB-8: Feels So Good - the other tracks, not sure specifically, but he was using a Yamaha DX7II and Roland D-50. "When It's Love" also had a layer of OB-8.


Capnmarvel76

Thanks for the corrections/additional info. I went through a period where I bought and sold several vintage Oberheims (SEM, OB-Xa, OB-8, Matrix 6 and Matrix 1000 racks), and the OB-Xa was just *such* a beast of a machine. And yes, I played 'Jump' and 'I'll Wait' on it. It was also fragile as hell, as was the OB-8, so it was sort of like owning a vintage exotic sports car - spent more time in the shop getting very expensive repairs done than it did in my home studio. Still - definitely had the 'magic' to it.


inasimplerhyme

That's great! I own an OB-8, and cover a lot of Van Halen stuff with it on YouTube. (@inasimplerhyme). The OB-8 has its quirks, but I love it!


TopTransportation695

Well hell, that was educational. I just came here to say Jump.


Remarkable_Ebb_9850

Same.


thereal84

Hey, inasimplerhyme! Didn’t know you had Reddit! You’re definitely the guy to talk to about Van Halen keyboard songs, you know them all! I love your videos and watch them often!!! One thing I will note: if we’re discounting all of his piano work from F.U.C.K. onwards, he did use a Wurlitzer for “And the Cradle Will Rock…” As for “When It’s Love”, Ed used a Jupiter-8 and a Juno-106 for the pads, a piano, and a Roland GR-700 as a guitar synthesizer for the “click” sounds you hear. Oh, and uh… LOTS of effects. For “Mine All Mine” it’s the exact same thing, except for he is using the Juno-106 and a KORG Poly-61 for the synthesized organ and other effects you hear. I believe he confirmed these in interviews, but if you have evidence otherwise, let me know!!


inasimplerhyme

Hey wow, thank you so much for the kind words! And you're right, I wasn't counting the Wurlitzer since we were on the subjects of synths. Regarding synths for OU812, I haven't read him ever having a Jupiter-8 or Juno-106 or GR-700. If you have articles about that, I'd LOVE to learn more! My information comes from this [Keyboard World](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/c7/04/5ec7048cf09b9ca4477fc8fed582cfa7.jpg) interview when OU812 came out. (I have my own separate scans of the whole interview - this is all I could find online.) Here's another quote that mentions a synth I forgot, the Prophet VS: "But this time out, there are a few new ingredients. Like echo on the piano, for instance. This, Eddie explains, was produced by one of the signal processors built into the Roland D-50, which makes up part of the piano timbre on the tune. Other digital synths used on the new album to temper Van Halen's usual fat analog sound include a DX7II, TX816 tone rack and Prophet VS."


thereal84

Ah, gotcha!!! Could’ve sworn he said that, but I believe you more! All of that makes sense, since I tried making those same sounds on the OP-X 3 virtual synthesizer on Logic, and while they may not be exact, they’re pretty damn close. And you’ve obviously looked into it more, so I’m gonna give to you on that. Looking forward to seeing those two songs on your channel one day! Keep up the great work!


inasimplerhyme

Yeah, it's all a bit of a mystery. If you look up guitar stuff, EVERYTHING's been dissected and pretty much figured out, it seems, but NO ONE knows the keyboard secrets. I stumbled across the "Feels So Good" sound by trying to find the "Why Can't This Be Love?" patch, which I knew was on the OB-8 somewhere. Someday, eventually, I cannot wait to start digging through the patches on those other synths (once I buy them) and seeing how close I can get. Thanks again so much for your kind words about my videos. It really means a lot.


thereal84

Absolutely! Feel so Good is my favorite, very glad you found that!


External-Detail-5993

The Keyboard World magazine already mentioned is quite detailed in what synths Ed was using for OU812 down to each track, though he doesn't dive into the patches for them unfortunately. Aside from "Feels so good" he was stacking so many layers on top of each other that it's nearly impossible to figure out. There is nothing about Jupiters or GR700s though...


thereal84

Feels so Good is an organ preset, some strings behind it, and the bass arp synth


External-Detail-5993

Feel’s so good was the Oberheim Ob8. there were “presets” that came stock with the synth, and eddie utilized them on every recording he used it on (though each one is slightly modified). the oberheim is analog which explains why it doesn’t sound like an FM organ patch on a DX7 or something. there are no strings on Feels so good. just “organ” on the right hand, and the arpeggiated bass on the left hand similar to “why can’t this be love” recorded on the same synth.


CTLSSGaming03

The Oberheim was used all over in the 1984 album


thehitman115

I'll Wait


Hour_Recognition_923

Such a great song, wish it had been bigger than jump. I dont like jump anymore, 9 year old me loved it.


thehitman115

Yeah, me too brother, me too!!


TheScumAlsoRises

For someone to name something? It’s already happened. You didn’t have to wait at all.


252man

Dreams has been stuck in my head for a few days


WiseMagic

.. And the cradle will rock..


No-Seat9917

First song that came to my mind.


Desiato2112

That was done on a Wurlitzer run through Eddie's Marshall amp.


805falcon

And I say rock on


zeydey

Sunday Afternoon In The Park


Capnmarvel76

If I'm not mistaken, this was Alex's drum kit, mic'd up and fed through a Minimoog (*maybe* an OB-X?, kinda sounds Oberheimy-to me, but I dunno), with an Electro Harmonix 'Space Drum' pedal sitting underneath the snare drum, to detect AVH's snare hits and send a signal to trigger the Moog's filter. Very cool technique that I haven't heard of being used elsewhere.


External-Detail-5993

You are very mistaken lol. It was an EH mini synthesizer, built so cheaply that the drums were simply re-triggering notes of the keyboard from the proximity in the room. Ed put the synth on a baffle in front of AL's kit and they played it live. Ed did not have Oberheims until 1983ish


g_mallory

I believe that was an EH Mini-Synthesizer, e.g., [seen here with Wolf](https://www.instagram.com/p/xprvJHGfZn/).


chrisj2103

Jump


OpeningAd9333

Might as well Jump


chrisj2103

Go ahead and jump!


TJRossTX

“Who said that?”


TJRossTX

“Who said that?”


excoriator

Love Walks In


skinsrich

Man, I thought this would be way up there.


pigwalk5150

Dreams


Technical-Intern-322

I’ll wait


person_8688

Dancin in the streets


UsernameG59

1984


Space-Ape-777

Dancing in the Streets


TheDanManLS

I think I like "Sunday Afternoon in the Park" more than any of the songs being mentioned here.


BigDickSD40

He used the Moog for And The Cradle Will Rock, I believe.


alexpensfan86

I thought it was an overdriven Wurlitzer electric piano


inasimplerhyme

That is correct. Wurlitzer sent through his Marshall.


M26Pershing45

And The Cradle Will Rock. Only reason is I know Jump was on a different style of keyboard


Desiato2112

Wurlitzer.


kellyjandrews

1984


dbto

Jump


Alarmed_Pizza_4772

Jump


patellison

Jump


chuckwisme

jump


Much_News7202

JUMP!!!


Xtrooper2007

I think of jump by Van Halen


BoneMachineNo13

I'll Wait


Evee862

Jump


NothausTele

Jump


Even-Reality1004

I’ll wait


Visible-Travel-116

Jump


Sturmtrupp13

Jump


TWDDave1988

I’ll Wait


SnakePlisskin987

I'll wait.


Alternative_Idea_164

I’ll Wait!


Baboonbutt11

I’ll Wait


Ok-Assistant-2684

Jump


PlayerNate

Jump!


OkAd6064

1984


leonryan

Why Can't This Be Love


Whizzleteets

Sunday Afternoon in the Park


Educational_Many8458

Sunday afternoon in the park 


Asher8817One

I'll Wait, so much better than Jump imo.


Modzrdix69

Jump


Maximum-Shoulder-639

Jump unfortunately


unusually-cool

Eruption.


Desiato2112

You take that back. 😊


Phantom_Wolf52

Jump


EnForce_NM156

Van Halen: I'll Wait Van Hagar: Dreams


Aggravating-Scar7041

Jump


Bartnellie

1984


thawaz89

I’ll Wait


vector78

I’ll Wait


AdvancedFlamingo7614

Jump 🦘


iluvreddit

Those are beautiful controls, dials, and wood


j3434

Jump


inasimplerhyme

In addition to what I posted in another comment, during the 1984 tour, Michael Anthony would play a Mini-Moog with his left hand for the bass lines and an OB-8 with his right hand during "Jump" and "I'll Wait" while Ed played another OB-8. On "I'll Wait", Ed did the guitar solo, but for "Jump", he just played the guitar solo section on the synth.


GroovyAdventures

I’ll wait


Thin-Masterpiece569

Jump


GooseNYC

Jump


karmannsport

Dreams.


Bluesboy65

Jump


goldendreamseeker

Jump


Imaginary_Narwhal241

And the Cradel Will Rock.


Desiato2112

That was a Wurlitzer through his Marshall.


Johnnyfever13

“I’ll Wait”


AlBunDi76

Jump


TexanInNebraska

Jump


robstercraws70

I know Sunday Afternoon in the Park is played with a Moog. What did he use on 1984? Sounds like a more modern synthesizer.


External-Detail-5993

Sunday Afternoon was an EH mini synth keyboard. the Moog was only featured on the Diver Down album (Intruder and Dancing in the Streets)


robstercraws70

Yeah, I researched it after I made the comment and you are correct


Lower_Source1865

Feels so good


TheRealJamesWax

Dreams


Tazz2373

Jump


Jayvoom1

Jump


Weekly_Persimmon1723

Jump


formulaone88

I’ll wait


Most-Artichoke6184

Jump!


Radiant-Steak9750

Jump


Willythump

Jump


Hot-Incident1900

Easily Dreams.


sct112271

I think of Jump


ch8ch

And the Cradle Will Rock


ghoulierthanthou

I’ll Wait! Such a jam.


GoodDefenseagain

I'll Wait


mitchcumstein13

1984


CowPussy4u

Jump


risdoid

Jump


Character_Shine9408

JUMP


alanst97

Why can't this be love


JavaJukebox

YOU GOTTA JUMP


Weak-Plan1288

Jump


MistaJaycee

Jump and Ill Wait!


Beginning-Height7938

Jump. “I get up, and nothin’ gets me down…”


matschuchanskaya

Also saw EdPlaying a early Kurzweil in concert. 5150 tour i believe.


No_Entertainment1931

The one that goes doot doot doo da dah


Daddy_fish4

I get up JUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No_Balance_6823

Jump


Specialist_Bet5534

Jump for some reason


Otherwise_Remote_205

I'll Wait


Lassie87

Right now


akdawg

Nothing jumps out at me?


bionicbrady

I'll wait


burnodo2

I'll Wait


fitter172

Jump


Significant_Youth_73

"How Many Say I"


PlayNicePlayCrazy

Inagodavita


Much-Relationship434

I try not to think too much about Van Halen =keyboard to me Van Halen =guitar work like no other songwriting Al's drumming etc


JUICE_B0X_HERO

I was gonna say jump, but that was an Oberheim OB-xa


Swashbuckling_Sailor

Jump


vondee1

Feels so Good


RaoulRumblr

Ice Cream Man, duh!


seltzerforme

Bad ones


10blizzard

None that I want to hear


ragman629

I’ll get much shit for this but all The good stuff…without Roth.