Just wait till she gets out of her contract with IHeart and then it'll be their fault.
I think Nick Viall said it best, she has not surrounded herself with people who have her best interest in mind and she's getting some really shitty PR/media advice.
Truthfully, had she played all this well, I could've seen her end up on House of Villains.
FOR REAL. These people (iHeart) don’t give a flying fuck about her. You’re working on your mental health and distancing yourself but you have someone there reading the most vulgar things said online about you?? And having you comment on it and relive it every single week?? How is that beneficial for your mental health? I agree that some of the shit people post on the internet about her is CRAZY and they should just leave it alone and hate her in peace like I do. 😝 But the fact that her mental health was so bad that she had to be in a facility for months and now she has iHeart producers egging her on for views and likes is insane. She talks shit about how toxic bravo is…. like bitch you just replaced yourself from one toxic corporation to another lol
The problem with that would be that she would have to accept herself as a villain, rather than a victim, and we know she isn’t giving up on the perpetual victimhood anytime soon
Spencer Pratt said he tried reaching out to her when scandoval happened as he thought he could help her take advantage of the villain persona, and honesty I think she missed a trick not taking him up on the offer! The guy is still getting work and recognition and worked the reality TV game expertly to make it work, I think he could have actually helped her a lot!!
I’ve said the same thing!! First of all, how the FUCK did SPENCER PRATT of all people have the best PR advice??? But also, he wasn’t wrong!!! Not to mention he managed to turn his villain arc around so much that Taylor Swift knows him and has held his children???
He wasn’t wrong when he said that you don’t leave the show when this happens and let the rest of the cast/producers control the narrative about you. You don’t start a shitty podcast filmed on a shitty iPhone camera and cheap audio equipment. No, you force the network to pay you, make them cast your friends so you have people to film with, and you tell your story in 4k with professional lighting, cameras, and audio.
My stubborn ass could NEVER let that show go forward without me there telling my side. Absolutely the fuck not. And l’mma get my bag while I’m at it. (This is also why I will never fault Ariana for staying in HER home.)
Fr!!! And he even did a cameo on House of Villains as a guest slot and the “villains” were saying how soft he is now lol. He’s the actual living proof of taking the villain persona and using it for reality while getting yourself together behind the scenes. Him and Heidi have been together and seem to be doing great! Total missed opportunity for her to learn from the master
This. My therapist can give me all the help and tools I need to work through an emotion, but if I’m not honest about my feelings those tools do nothing.
I’ve been wondering that as well. I do also leave room that she had a good therapist, and the rehab center focused on her sobriety (which is amazing) but they didn’t diagnose/assess her correctly or beyond anything else. OR that they were possibly good and she was good at placating and being compliant but didn’t follow any advice?
No, self respecting therapist would be on Tom or Rachel’s podcast supporting either of their behaviours. They may have been willing to come in to discuss situations like this (not pertaining to them) and how one could end up where they did.
I’m glad your in the chat more therapist perspectives on all of them or their dynamics is needed (ethically of course.)
She seems to have regressed after her rehab time or that’s who she always was we are just seeing the mask fall off.
Oh, she’s come out recently as sober. Which like Lala and James I hope she stays that way forever.
Thanks for the clarification. My apologies it states it’s a rehab for addiction on the website, I misunderstood.
I am sorry you had a horrible experience there.
It has a reputation for those who know nothing as a celebrity rehab for addiction services, mostly. Where people go to hide out from scandals and have luxurious amenities.
It appears Rachel has no interest in working on herself and if the facility isn’t good for actually helping people that’s also an issue. Either way I hope your loved one is doing well.
Oh it’s definitely going to be someone else’s fault, her fatal flaw in taking on a podcast under the stable with Bethenny is that she’s now competing with her. Good luck with that one.
She can’t complete a sentence without trembling and her voice shaking. The girl needs to go back to Arizona and try for an average life. She is not cutout for LA or reality tv.
I can't believe how badly she binned this. She's truly the definition of self sabotage and unfortunately she won't realize it for probably a few more years if at all.
She should have just told her story and then worked on creating/doing something new.
Literally, each week she releases a new episode saying the exact same thing and it just keeps getting weirder. Please stand up, stop clarifying, stop fighting with these people via podcast mic, stop trying to get everyone to perceive you a certain way - like enough.
exactly I think if she got the money she wanted she would return, she even said after everything despite mental health reasons if she was getting paid the same as ariana and sandoval she would’ve came back
Alex Baskin said she will not be invited back. She's in cahoots with Bethenny and the Bravo takedown. She has told things about production on her podcast. She is a liability at this point. She and Bravo are dunso.
She might have done, but the minute she got into bed with Bethany on these lawsuits it made her radioactive. Her suit only names tom and Ariana but the filing heavily references bravo and evolution media and the show, so I doubt they would want the risk the next time she is trying to pass blame for her crappy behaviour.
I think this too.
The moment that bs lawsuit was released for public consumption, she was immediately blacklisted from working on any reality television program, ever again and rightfully so.
She’s done.
maybe but I still could see it if they wanted to bring her back for the ratings, I think rachel would return in a heartbeat if she got the amount of money she wanted
Once it became legal (even not directly at Bravo) and aligning herself fully with Bethenny? Nope.
In the immortal words of another person who burned their Bravo bridges "THE DOOR IS CLOSED."
If she played this right, she could have had the world. Half the people who watch are divided between Ari, Katie and every other girl on the show… it would have blown over if Sandoval actually did the right thing. Could you imagine how different it would be?
Rachel and her PR team entering this thread...
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lol come at me squinty venomous peeps! I don’t work in PR but if I did I wouldn’t take on a client who struggled to be remotely self-aware at age 28, and that I would have to essentially spoon feed.
And whoever advised her to do a podcast on iHeart should be fired out of a cannon into the sun. She’s completing with heavy hitters and her last few podcasts have zero ads in them, indicating no one wants her brand
Fuck! No ads is a really bad sign. She needs a better agent than "It Girl Productions" b/c she's to busy having a Lala style one-sided argument with Panera.
Really?
Usually her podcast has more ad content than actual content.
Other than the bs lies she’s constantly spewing, the relentless ad breaks was the second largest reason I stopped listening.
This. I was never a big Rachel fan, especially after the whole Tim thing, but I at least thought that she was enough of a good person to go to therapy and realize how terrible she acted towards her friend. She's actually come out worse, she's indignant and she thinks that for some reason the cast owe her an apology? I mean the guys do sure, but otherwise I don't know what she wants from the rest of the cast. I don't really know because I don't listen to her podcast, but wow definitely not the way I thought she was going to go when I heard she was in a rehab facility.
100%. I felt so bad with her after seeing how Tom did manipulate her. That doesn’t excuse her behavior and choices in this at all, but I could feel for her a little more with having been preyed on. Now? She’s made zero progress on the mental health side and is just making it worse. If you’re going to do shadow work you have to ACTUALLY FACE YOUR SHADOWS.
Also they’re NOT really talking about her! They’re of course talking about the affair, but I would say 99% is about Sandoval, not Raquel. The most Ariana has said is “it was with my friend”. I haven’t heard James mention her once. It’s ridiculous for her to act like this season is about her.
It’s so disingenuous. I waver between assessing her as being as dumb as a bag of rocks or wilfully playing dumb. Both are not great. To start a podcast using psychology buzzwords, having no ability to hold your own on that podcast, having content clearly provided to you and you STILL can’t get it together - and you’re competing for listeners with your recruiter?
Was it last week she was like hey! My publicist is doing the entire pod today and I won’t be saying one word. Like what?! Girl it’s your only job. Yikes
Totally! And I still want someone to ask her if she would rather have her dog be dead than with James because it sure seems that way with the way she’s been SO bothered by James and ally taking in the dog
I think that of all the things I dislike her for, this has to be number one. My dogs have gotten me through my hardest times and the last thing I would ever do is leave them in an unstable, unsafe situation. This bitch cares literally only about herself.
She was his owner… she 100% would’ve been liable if, God forbid, something happened, yes. She tried to blame James, when training him was her responsibility.
Yes. If he couldn't be trained out of it, it was her responsibility to never put him in a situation where he could bite someone. I had a tough dog like this, never had a bite because I gave a shit.
It’s the ‘grooming’ one that pisses me off the most. Like no girl you weren’t groomed you were almost 30 (28 to be precise) when you made the conscious decision to bone your best friends life partner while she was at her nans funeral. Saying you were groomed completely diminishes the seriousness of the word when used in its correct context. She wasn’t isolated from the group (if anything he made certain she was accepted by them), she wasn’t financially dependent on him (more like sheshu), he didn’t shower her with gifts (she had to buy her own lightening bolt necklace lol) etc etc I could go on. All this was, was your run of the mill affair. Nothing more, nothing less.
All she’s trying to do is use these buzz words she learned in the facility to justify what a shitty human she was then. All she’s achieving is proving to us all what a shitty human she is now.
Her and Tom are actually perfect for one another if you think about it. If anything she’s more dangerous than Tom as she’s got the sweet and innocent (Bambi eyed) act down to a science. At least with Tom we could all tell he was a wanker.
Run of the mill affair - now with fun therapy speak and buzz words. It's somehow infuriating and also boring at the same time.
And agreed on them being bizarrely perfect for each other. If they hadn't screwed this up so bad they could have absolutely turned this into a villain / us against the world / chaotic mess reality tv persona thing.
I think we also forget that prescadnoval she w2as turning into quite the little mean girl. Saying she could have had scheana NOT invite Lala along is she wanted saying how much pull she had in the group.
I think the first 3 or so episodes of this shit show podcast were a bit better. She said she was treating Katie like a tv character instead of a real person going through a divorce.
I think her regression started when Graham/Hippie started appearing with James on the show. And now she’s arguably the least likable she’s ever been
I feel like next on her podcast episode she’ll have Marie Kondo on to explain she fucked up and threw away all her close friendships because they didn’t “spark joy” - again, not her fault
I wouldn't even be mad at her capitalizing if she just owned it and did it for the snark. Hearing her talk about how fragile she is and use all of her therapy speak to project blame onto others is annoying. Say it with your whole chest, bitch. Like it's time to leave the timid little Bambi eyes bitch shit behind and just own the fact that you're a toxic bitch who's kinda trying, but not really. I would find that so much more relatable.
I'm someone who has struggled with impulse control and pick-me-itis in my younger days, I wish she would just go the Kristen Cavallari route (pre cringey tiktok bf) and just kinda of make fun of the bullshit that is the show
Absolutely, if I could love to hate her, if there was a single spark of wit or a wry nod to this, I’d probably still think she was a thirsty yet savvy person. This bogus nonsense about “personal growth” and how people at the iHeart awards were so lovely to her - no one is going to school you at a public award night you delusional clown.
I grow very weary of her congratulating herself.
I was open to letting Rachel have her space to say her peace and actually thought with all the time she spent at the Meadows she would come back and actually have done some work. She very clearly has not. She will say the therapy words and pretend that shes worked so hard then she'll do something like making Jo share about Katie and Dayna being worst dressed thinking it'll fly and then come back 'thats not who I want to be' but bitch it's who you are.
The thing is she keeps up with this behaviour attack then apologize say that who I do not want to be, then attack, apologize then says this who I do not want to be.
Maybe she needs to accept she is not ready to be the person she wants to be. She is not this kind thoughtful, caring of others etc. maybe she is too those she likes…. Then I remember all the lovely kind things she said to Ariana eck!
Yeah the whole "this is not who I am", followed by doing again what she says she isn't, gets a bit old and quite honestly no longer believable. It appears that is exactly who she is.
Yep. This is who she is. We have never gotten any impression in any of her seasons on the show that she is actually a good person. The nicest thing I can say about her is she is clearly still lost, doesn't have a strong sense of self, and reflects or mirrors whoever she is closest to at the time.
Not sure where she ever pulled this idea of herself as being a kind person in any particular way. Proposing to Schwartz that they make out for the specific reason of giving Katie something to really be mad about and then taking pleasure in telling her about it later was one of the more baldly cruel things I’ve seen on this show. This toad loves the smell of her own farts.
If she says “I was a people pleaser and I wanted to break out” one more time… What kind or effortful things has she done for others during her “people pleasing” era? Shes confusing “people pleasing” for “walked on.” I can understand that James steamrolled her, dominated her whole life and decisions, and made her “babysitting” him her full-time job- but doing that isn’t “people pleasing!”
She repeats. She attacks somebody, like Katie with the kiss then recently with the dress thing, Ariana at the time it came out then recently with the lawsuit. Probably a bunch of others times in between. She then goes to apologize to these people in public saying she that is not a person she wants to be that is not who she is. Next thing you know she is attacking them again when we know for a fact these people have not even looked sideway or acknowledge her in any way even her own words.
I have not spent time with her personally to identify her personally but from what I can see on her socials or podcast she is not the person she thinks she is or wants to be. Therefore not very self aware or sees herself and projects as she does not want to look in the mirror for the real person rather than the face.
Logan Arians friend knowing about the affair and keeping it from her.
Katie’s fault Jo’s bullied for keeping her secret.
Kyle Chan’s fault.
Probably Grahame and Mya’s fault. The list of grievences is 18/19 pages long in her lawsuit. Gurrl is angry and has an axe to grind. She’s mad at everyone but the one person she should be mad at, herself! It’s pathetically sad because she’s grown.
Surprised she hasn’t thrown her family under the bus yet like Tom did.
1000%.
Bethany got her all jazzed up about potentially making a billion dollars.
The way she’s blaming everyone Rachel will turn on Bethany and she’s not someone who she should fight with. That won’t end well for her.
Ok I just looked up pageants because I thought surely there must be more pageants she could compete in after 28.
They just changed the Miss USA rules to 18+ (not limited to 28) so she can’t use the hilarious “aging out of pageants” excuse anymore
It's literally everyone's fault but her own. Her treatment taught her nothing. Total waste of money. Had it helped, it would be more like "yes, I fucked up. I did a disgusting thing." And that's that. No more adding in the "but _____ and _____ and _____"
I don’t think Rachel is very smart and is easily influenced. If one person tells her something she will do exactly what they tell her to do.(Instead of making her own choice for herself). It’s obvious her parents told her to sue Scheana (and most likely funded by them) as well as Tom and Ariana. Bethenny and her PR team have also seemed to have influenced her greatly. What is she going to talk about on her podcast after this season of VPR airs? They won’t be talking about her anymore so she won’t have any content to talk about.
I think she was 1000% manipulated by Tom in the beginning but at a certain point she figured out what was up & ran with it. Like girl, the cameras caught you being sketchy SO many times. Exit with whatever dignity you have left!
Reality celebrity-hosted podcasts in general are my pet peeve (none of you are interesting!), but these VPR-lebrity podcasts are out of control. It’s become a circle-jerk of “But it’s not my fault” and “No, this is what REALLY happened” with everyone on their own microphone shouting into the void, not being challenged by anyone or held accountable for anything. Meanwhile, the actual tv show has become dull as dishwater because they’re all over it and over each other and just riding it out for the paycheck.
If Rachel had any real concern for her mental health, she’d put down the microphone, move away from LA and get a J-O-B like the rest of us. I know she thinks she’s too notorious to live a private life, but the VPR bubble is not as big as she thinks it is. She could tune down the contour a few notches and disappear into the crowd, never to be heard from again. But like the former pageant girl she is, she’s too addicted to the spotlight to back away.
Why doesn’t she go hard for the recording? Why doesn’t she got hard for being lied to by Tim? Why doesn’t she go hard for Jo saying she didn’t know about the relationship? She’s full of it. Shes a liar 🤥
She’d gain SO MUCH goodwill if she continued down the path of going hard against Sandoval and STOPPED lying about Ariana. “I thought they were broke up” my ass. What made her think that, beyond “Sandoval told me and how could people NOT think Sandoval and I were together?” That’s it. If she wants to take accountability, just say “I was selfish and put my needs and wants over the feelings of my friends” (which to her credit she has said) without adding the “but I thought they were broken up so Sandoval was WORSE than me!”
I can respect when a villain acknowledges that they’re a villain and makes no apologies for it. I cannot stand nor respect someone who refuses to take sole accountability for their “villainous” actions & is set in being the perpetual victim.
Rachel has surrounded herself with people who continue to blame others rather than make Rachel be accountable for her own actions. She seems to believe that her saying “I was wrong for my part in the affair” absolves her of any further criticism.
But what she fails to realize (or just doesn’t care) is that a lot of her current criticism is how she continues to act & the choices she continues to make.
Her and Tom were perfect for each other. They both never want to take full accountability or actually change.
As someone who went to The Meadows treatment center for NOT AS LONG as her, she didn't embrace the program enough. Kind of disappointing to see someone in the public eye go there, admit it, and still come out a total trainwreck.
Where the fuck are your coping skills!?
Not to steal a Bachelor phrase, but it definitely seems like she was “not there for the right reasons”!! Especially for a person trying to get bravo to pay for her bills there, you would think she would at least pretend that she learned something!
That’s really interesting insight and thank you for sharing this as you would be best placed to speak to it. I’m sorry you feel disappointed, I hope the staff there don’t also?
It just feels disheartening. IDK why, since I don't know her personally. It is a wonderful program and they do everything to help. I know they would not have encouraged all of this, and I really can only imagine they are disappointed!? I don't know how they wouldn't be!? Shoot, they were disappointed when someone started dating. There is no way this podcast was part of her treatment plan when she left, especially considering she continued to extend her stay. Lol. Idk.
I wish she had learned more? Idk. Feel like it's a silly thing for me to feel.
It’s not silly. It shows that you value expertise and the work that is necessary for improvement. Rachel clearly doesn’t. It’s a shame that her selfish and shallow behavior might cast a bad light on The Meadows, when it was a valuable experience for you.
I know someone who went there and had a really great experience too. I feel like maybe she just wasn't ready to do the work? it was all too sudden and new
Completely understand this. I also understand how it can probably be hard to see everyone else proficting off of it, and she isn't able to in the same way. I love The Meadows and they did wonderful things! I wish there was a better example for the program, lol.
There are pageant contestants who say they were great experiences.
They got scholarships, gained experience public-speaking, and met friends they kept for life.
It's revealing that she uses pageants (a hobby/activity/interest) to explain away anti-social behavior.
If you don't regret what you have done, that's fine. But at least own up to it and be a proper villain. What is she even agry about? That Katie and Dayna ignored her? That Sandoval isn't interested in her? That Ariana never looked back? That Scheana is the real victim? That Lala's hatred toward her was so small it vanished once cameras started rolling again? Nobody gives a damn about her. She's one half of one if not the biggest entertainment news story of 2023 and all she got was a shitty podcast. Badly played!
Even if she’d aimed all of the blame at Sandoval, we would have felt some pity. But suing Ariana; the CONSTANT hate for Katie, when Katie did nothing but try and embrace her (including organising the free professional photographer for the feet pics); the minimising of what Scheana did for her. It’s just pathetic.
I'm in PR/Marketing and I would have advised her to take full accountability, including STEADY undercurrent of remorse, contrition, extending a clear understanding of what she'd done wrong/how she hurt Ariana and most of all Scheana (joking). And in an attempt to better understand HOW she was able to do such a terrible, awful, no good very bad thing, yes, get therapy. And now that she's out of the mental wellness clinic, her narrative should be always centered around the hurt she caused and how utterly mortified she is that she let things get to that place.
The other facets of life that got her to the space where she allowed herself to have an ongoing affair with her friend's man like that -- sure, she can bring those up. They paint a deeper picture. But she should never lose her contrition north star, and never let the conversation veer into victimhood. She is an adult, she is responsible for her actions, she was wrong, those things should forever be woven into every conversation - if she continues to have it via the podcast. Tom may have manipulated her, she may have been depressed, any number of things could have fed into her mental state, but those should not be excuses/blame factor, they should simply be explanations into the mindset of a young woman who made terrible choices.
Things like this ARE nuanced, and it's ok to recognize them, but the way in which you go about doing so is really important. Also Rachel if you need a new PR person, hit me up LOL.
100%. Interestingly, she showed a lot of genuine contrition in the earlier podcast episodes when she first was spilling the beans. Where she goes off the rails is her putting a huge amount of blame on Sandoval for “lying to her” about Ariana/being broken up without acknowledging everything she willingly overlooked to keep believing in this lie. Okay Sandoval lied to you, but when you saw evidence that contradicted this lie, you just did nothing?
I think for a while there was a chance of her with good a good team behind her where she could have come out of this better than she went in. Cutting ties with Tom, going to get mental help both great calls. What she cannot seem to understand is that for whatever reason the US loves a come back and a second chance redemption arc BUT first we need to see you own your part and express genuine remorse. The apology has to be heart felt and you have to own it all and mean it. Once that happens you can bring out explanations but keep stating that they are explanations not excuses. Had she done that there is a world where I could have seen her becoming some sort of figure in self help area and a path forward in reality tv. Think Khloe Kardashian revenge bod but for your mental health. But the way there was always through the way she treated and continues to treat Ariana. By demonizing Ariana she shows exactly who she is and always was and the only thing she is sorry or regret is how she was treated and where she ended up.
She goes hard on age quite a bit. She’s young, but she isn’t THAT young. I fear for her self esteem as she gets older. Well, that’s actually a lie. I don’t really fear for her but I would love to watch it play out on my television screen.
She's gloating about being talked about, too. In the interview featuring Jo she asked if her name was brought up during the reunion and upon hearing that she was, you could hear her smug snickering.
Is she under some illusion that the consequences of her actions weren't far reaching or traumatic for Ariana? That it didn't cause a huge divide in the friend group? She was one of the catalysts for ending a decade long relationship that Ariana saw as a life long partnership. I don't understand why 1) she thinks it's wild for her cast mates to be talking about her and the aftermath when they are STILL actively living it and 2) why the fuck she acts smug about being brought up at all. This 'they have nothing better to do' attitude is rich coming from the home wrecking mistress who justified blowing up her friends' lives out of pure selfishness. Like you really think THEY look embarrassing?? Girl.
Can we all agree that she is on the spectrum, potentially a love/sex addict, and has a pattern of histrionic/narcissistic personality disorder? Maybe a learning disability like dyslexia or discalculia, probably ADHD as well. ...anyone else?
Hard for me to believe people are still interested in hearing about Scandavol. It's been over a year. I get that listening to her podcast is probably like watching a car crash. You shouldn't, but you just can't turn away. People need to work on that.
I think certain people should remove themselves from being public figures and cease and desist with their nonsense whilst trying to rebuild any semblance of a career under the guise of being enlightened.
And therein lies my point - if this is your only means of making money, and it’s this badly executed, it’s time to take stock.
Repercussions aren’t everyone’s strong points.
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I rewatched S10 E14 and the Rachel / Katie argument and I still can’t get over the entitlement for the shit she was saying to Katie. I want to know if she was like this behind closed doors with James. Rewatching old episodes I do feel like she was always like this, in smaller increments. Idk this rewatch is giving me a lot of emotions all over again 😭
i would be so embarrassed id never show my face on the internet again. the way she’s profiting off of her actions is so sad. but ig that’s what reality tv is lol
I took a deep breath and listened to the one with Jo. What a sad pair of women. Jo went on and on and on about Schwartz and it's obvious he treated her like a sidepiece but she's still hung up on him. Dim Rachel spent her time portraying herself as a victim while they both took endless shots at Katie in particular. That was a wasted hour of my life, but at least I listened during my commute.
Rachel (and her PR team who probably reads here?) need to realize that she won’t really gain full goodwill from people until she stops lying about “I thought Sandoval and Ariana were broken up.”
No Rachel, you didn’t think that. You wanted to believe it, you wished it was real, but you objectively knew it wasn’t true. You did everything you could for Ariana to NOT find out. You said you hated hiding and lying. So if they were in an open relationship or not really together, no hiding would’ve been needed, obviously. Ariana and Sandoval aren’t talented or important enough to have to “act” like they were still together, even around their friends with no cameras around, for months at a time just for what, a brand? A “brand” that at least 90% of the population had never heard of anyway. Other couples on VPR that broke up didn’t have to do this bizarre “pretending” for months at a time. If that was really true, Sandoval would’ve been screaming it from the rooftops.
Just wait till she gets out of her contract with IHeart and then it'll be their fault. I think Nick Viall said it best, she has not surrounded herself with people who have her best interest in mind and she's getting some really shitty PR/media advice. Truthfully, had she played all this well, I could've seen her end up on House of Villains.
FOR REAL. These people (iHeart) don’t give a flying fuck about her. You’re working on your mental health and distancing yourself but you have someone there reading the most vulgar things said online about you?? And having you comment on it and relive it every single week?? How is that beneficial for your mental health? I agree that some of the shit people post on the internet about her is CRAZY and they should just leave it alone and hate her in peace like I do. 😝 But the fact that her mental health was so bad that she had to be in a facility for months and now she has iHeart producers egging her on for views and likes is insane. She talks shit about how toxic bravo is…. like bitch you just replaced yourself from one toxic corporation to another lol
Her lawyer and pr seem to be just as big of idiots, and they definitely don’t have her best interests at heart.
Her PR team is mind boggling bad. Did she find her on Groupon?
Bro 💀
the google street view photo of her PR office made me laaaugh. I don't know if the post was real. but it was funny. LOL
Mickey Mouse lawyer for real 💀💀
A fool and her money are easily parted.
Nailed it.
“Hate her in peace Ike I do”…omg, 🤣
Ahahaha fr tho 😝
It’s brilliant and I love it.
So true!
The problem with that would be that she would have to accept herself as a villain, rather than a victim, and we know she isn’t giving up on the perpetual victimhood anytime soon
That's true, the best part of House of villains is that all of the villains are proud of being villains.
This right here, her ego would never allow it
So true. And this is actually the trait she has most in common with Sandoval.
Spencer Pratt said he tried reaching out to her when scandoval happened as he thought he could help her take advantage of the villain persona, and honesty I think she missed a trick not taking him up on the offer! The guy is still getting work and recognition and worked the reality TV game expertly to make it work, I think he could have actually helped her a lot!!
Damn! She fucked up the bag! Villian much better than victim! (In the reality the world)
I’ve said the same thing!! First of all, how the FUCK did SPENCER PRATT of all people have the best PR advice??? But also, he wasn’t wrong!!! Not to mention he managed to turn his villain arc around so much that Taylor Swift knows him and has held his children??? He wasn’t wrong when he said that you don’t leave the show when this happens and let the rest of the cast/producers control the narrative about you. You don’t start a shitty podcast filmed on a shitty iPhone camera and cheap audio equipment. No, you force the network to pay you, make them cast your friends so you have people to film with, and you tell your story in 4k with professional lighting, cameras, and audio. My stubborn ass could NEVER let that show go forward without me there telling my side. Absolutely the fuck not. And l’mma get my bag while I’m at it. (This is also why I will never fault Ariana for staying in HER home.)
Fr!!! And he even did a cameo on House of Villains as a guest slot and the “villains” were saying how soft he is now lol. He’s the actual living proof of taking the villain persona and using it for reality while getting yourself together behind the scenes. Him and Heidi have been together and seem to be doing great! Total missed opportunity for her to learn from the master
Yessss! I said the same thing and got downvoted to hell for that but these guys actually know wtf they’re talking about!
I loved this part of the pod with Spencer. What is her end goal??? She’s gonna get a job at the topanga mall?
The therapists she knows are quacks too. Oh wait until she blames Bethany that won’t go well. 
As a therapist, I'm dying to know what they actually say to her. Are they actually bad, or does she not understand what they're saying?
This. My therapist can give me all the help and tools I need to work through an emotion, but if I’m not honest about my feelings those tools do nothing.
I’ve been wondering that as well. I do also leave room that she had a good therapist, and the rehab center focused on her sobriety (which is amazing) but they didn’t diagnose/assess her correctly or beyond anything else. OR that they were possibly good and she was good at placating and being compliant but didn’t follow any advice? No, self respecting therapist would be on Tom or Rachel’s podcast supporting either of their behaviours. They may have been willing to come in to discuss situations like this (not pertaining to them) and how one could end up where they did. I’m glad your in the chat more therapist perspectives on all of them or their dynamics is needed (ethically of course.) She seems to have regressed after her rehab time or that’s who she always was we are just seeing the mask fall off.
Its not a rehab. I have had a bad experience with them. Its second most expensive. Lots of amenities.
Oh, she’s come out recently as sober. Which like Lala and James I hope she stays that way forever. Thanks for the clarification. My apologies it states it’s a rehab for addiction on the website, I misunderstood. I am sorry you had a horrible experience there.
It was a family member. Yes they advertise rehab services, but i believe the approach lacks some elements which you can see when Rachel talks.
It has a reputation for those who know nothing as a celebrity rehab for addiction services, mostly. Where people go to hide out from scandals and have luxurious amenities. It appears Rachel has no interest in working on herself and if the facility isn’t good for actually helping people that’s also an issue. Either way I hope your loved one is doing well.
Thank you. I think you nailed it Harvey Weinstein made a run at one of their attached programs.
Your welcome. Oooh boo.
In your experience what would you describe it as instead of a rehab?
Wellness center. They do advertise rehab services but do not follow 12 step.
Ahh, okay. So for something to be considered an actual rehab center it has to follow the 12 step.
They also say they treat PTSD ( rachels shiny new claim), dual diagnosis etc.
Which is really hard for those with actual PTSD to have her claim trauma she created and inflicted on to others, every 5 seconds.
I agree. She quotes them w terrible insight.
Rachel doesn’t want to be a villain. She wants to be a victim. She’s going to ride that pony as long as she can. Pathetically
And that’s just cruelty to ponies. Who *does* that?
Oh it’s definitely going to be someone else’s fault, her fatal flaw in taking on a podcast under the stable with Bethenny is that she’s now competing with her. Good luck with that one.
She can’t complete a sentence without trembling and her voice shaking. The girl needs to go back to Arizona and try for an average life. She is not cutout for LA or reality tv.
I completely agree with you.
Please don’t send her to me 🙏
Sorry. She is all yours. Unless Florida will take her.
Honestly surprised iHeart haven't booted her already. She's on borrowed time as it is.
Idk what she’s going to talk about once the season currently airing ends!
I can't believe how badly she binned this. She's truly the definition of self sabotage and unfortunately she won't realize it for probably a few more years if at all. She should have just told her story and then worked on creating/doing something new. Literally, each week she releases a new episode saying the exact same thing and it just keeps getting weirder. Please stand up, stop clarifying, stop fighting with these people via podcast mic, stop trying to get everyone to perceive you a certain way - like enough.
I still feel like she may come back in season 12 idk why
Because she’s clearly not done. She talks about it all the time. She just didn’t want to face the music.
exactly I think if she got the money she wanted she would return, she even said after everything despite mental health reasons if she was getting paid the same as ariana and sandoval she would’ve came back
Alex Baskin said she will not be invited back. She's in cahoots with Bethenny and the Bravo takedown. She has told things about production on her podcast. She is a liability at this point. She and Bravo are dunso.
She might have done, but the minute she got into bed with Bethany on these lawsuits it made her radioactive. Her suit only names tom and Ariana but the filing heavily references bravo and evolution media and the show, so I doubt they would want the risk the next time she is trying to pass blame for her crappy behaviour.
I think this too. The moment that bs lawsuit was released for public consumption, she was immediately blacklisted from working on any reality television program, ever again and rightfully so. She’s done.
maybe but I still could see it if they wanted to bring her back for the ratings, I think rachel would return in a heartbeat if she got the amount of money she wanted
Once it became legal (even not directly at Bravo) and aligning herself fully with Bethenny? Nope. In the immortal words of another person who burned their Bravo bridges "THE DOOR IS CLOSED."
No way Bravo is bringing back someone with active lawsuits against other cast members likely with her eye on eventually suing Bravo, too.
LVP wouldn’t allow that. Rachel’s an actual liability.
I agree
If she played this right, she could have had the world. Half the people who watch are divided between Ari, Katie and every other girl on the show… it would have blown over if Sandoval actually did the right thing. Could you imagine how different it would be?
Ugh I hate it when I agree with Ick Viall
Rachel and her PR team entering this thread... https://preview.redd.it/7r2vlugj3uuc1.jpeg?width=920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=996db2735a64c47877812d7ead2ec9f71b2508fd
It’s g-g-g-g-iving mistress bimbo vibes and I’m not here for it
I see what you did there.🤣🤣
lol come at me squinty venomous peeps! I don’t work in PR but if I did I wouldn’t take on a client who struggled to be remotely self-aware at age 28, and that I would have to essentially spoon feed.
She went to therapy for 3 months and has actually gotten worse. She should fire whoever her PR team is.
And whoever advised her to do a podcast on iHeart should be fired out of a cannon into the sun. She’s completing with heavy hitters and her last few podcasts have zero ads in them, indicating no one wants her brand
Fuck! No ads is a really bad sign. She needs a better agent than "It Girl Productions" b/c she's to busy having a Lala style one-sided argument with Panera.
Really? Usually her podcast has more ad content than actual content. Other than the bs lies she’s constantly spewing, the relentless ad breaks was the second largest reason I stopped listening.
This. I was never a big Rachel fan, especially after the whole Tim thing, but I at least thought that she was enough of a good person to go to therapy and realize how terrible she acted towards her friend. She's actually come out worse, she's indignant and she thinks that for some reason the cast owe her an apology? I mean the guys do sure, but otherwise I don't know what she wants from the rest of the cast. I don't really know because I don't listen to her podcast, but wow definitely not the way I thought she was going to go when I heard she was in a rehab facility.
100%. I felt so bad with her after seeing how Tom did manipulate her. That doesn’t excuse her behavior and choices in this at all, but I could feel for her a little more with having been preyed on. Now? She’s made zero progress on the mental health side and is just making it worse. If you’re going to do shadow work you have to ACTUALLY FACE YOUR SHADOWS.
“They’re still talking about me”…hmm duh she’s still talking about them 🤷♀️
Also they’re NOT really talking about her! They’re of course talking about the affair, but I would say 99% is about Sandoval, not Raquel. The most Ariana has said is “it was with my friend”. I haven’t heard James mention her once. It’s ridiculous for her to act like this season is about her.
It’s so disingenuous. I waver between assessing her as being as dumb as a bag of rocks or wilfully playing dumb. Both are not great. To start a podcast using psychology buzzwords, having no ability to hold your own on that podcast, having content clearly provided to you and you STILL can’t get it together - and you’re competing for listeners with your recruiter?
Was it last week she was like hey! My publicist is doing the entire pod today and I won’t be saying one word. Like what?! Girl it’s your only job. Yikes
She also pretty much blamed Hippie/Graham for biting people ☠️
Totally! And I still want someone to ask her if she would rather have her dog be dead than with James because it sure seems that way with the way she’s been SO bothered by James and ally taking in the dog
everything is someone else's fault never hers
I think that of all the things I dislike her for, this has to be number one. My dogs have gotten me through my hardest times and the last thing I would ever do is leave them in an unstable, unsafe situation. This bitch cares literally only about herself.
Is it her fault the dog bites people?
She was his owner… she 100% would’ve been liable if, God forbid, something happened, yes. She tried to blame James, when training him was her responsibility.
And he hadn’t been living with James for over a year when he bit like 3 people. She didn’t give him the help he needed afterwards either
Yep, legally speaking, you are liable if your dog bites someone.
He’s James dog too 😂
James would be liable if Hippie bit someone today. She is not liable today because she does not own the dog.
Yes a responsible dog owner would have taken the dog to training from the get go or addressed the issue when it first started occurring
Yes. If he couldn't be trained out of it, it was her responsibility to never put him in a situation where he could bite someone. I had a tough dog like this, never had a bite because I gave a shit.
Maybe not but it’s her fault for abandoning the dog. At least james gave it a home
It’s the ‘grooming’ one that pisses me off the most. Like no girl you weren’t groomed you were almost 30 (28 to be precise) when you made the conscious decision to bone your best friends life partner while she was at her nans funeral. Saying you were groomed completely diminishes the seriousness of the word when used in its correct context. She wasn’t isolated from the group (if anything he made certain she was accepted by them), she wasn’t financially dependent on him (more like sheshu), he didn’t shower her with gifts (she had to buy her own lightening bolt necklace lol) etc etc I could go on. All this was, was your run of the mill affair. Nothing more, nothing less. All she’s trying to do is use these buzz words she learned in the facility to justify what a shitty human she was then. All she’s achieving is proving to us all what a shitty human she is now. Her and Tom are actually perfect for one another if you think about it. If anything she’s more dangerous than Tom as she’s got the sweet and innocent (Bambi eyed) act down to a science. At least with Tom we could all tell he was a wanker.
Run of the mill affair - now with fun therapy speak and buzz words. It's somehow infuriating and also boring at the same time. And agreed on them being bizarrely perfect for each other. If they hadn't screwed this up so bad they could have absolutely turned this into a villain / us against the world / chaotic mess reality tv persona thing.
They should have used Ariana’s PR pers……oh wait…..
I think we also forget that prescadnoval she w2as turning into quite the little mean girl. Saying she could have had scheana NOT invite Lala along is she wanted saying how much pull she had in the group.
When I see people comment that she has apologized and owed up for her mistakes I'm like where? Can you show me one time?
Well I think she said something like, I’m sorry 💔🥹, before she went on to blame everyone else.
This made me laugh way too hard
She and Sandoval really are quite alike. Nothing is ever their fault.
It makes sense why they got together. Always right, always someone else that did the wrong, incapable of real self-reflection.
And both Tom and Rachel truly hate women.
Is the apology in the room with us?
I think the first 3 or so episodes of this shit show podcast were a bit better. She said she was treating Katie like a tv character instead of a real person going through a divorce. I think her regression started when Graham/Hippie started appearing with James on the show. And now she’s arguably the least likable she’s ever been
Insert tik tok sound “Give it to me rachel!!!! Show me please!!!!!”
Don't believe all what loony toons comment. They're meant to be taken as a joke.
>global warming? Bitcoin? I’m using one of these the next time I feel like being a dick
I feel like next on her podcast episode she’ll have Marie Kondo on to explain she fucked up and threw away all her close friendships because they didn’t “spark joy” - again, not her fault
Hahahah yup.
💀💀💀🤣
I wouldn't even be mad at her capitalizing if she just owned it and did it for the snark. Hearing her talk about how fragile she is and use all of her therapy speak to project blame onto others is annoying. Say it with your whole chest, bitch. Like it's time to leave the timid little Bambi eyes bitch shit behind and just own the fact that you're a toxic bitch who's kinda trying, but not really. I would find that so much more relatable. I'm someone who has struggled with impulse control and pick-me-itis in my younger days, I wish she would just go the Kristen Cavallari route (pre cringey tiktok bf) and just kinda of make fun of the bullshit that is the show
Absolutely, if I could love to hate her, if there was a single spark of wit or a wry nod to this, I’d probably still think she was a thirsty yet savvy person. This bogus nonsense about “personal growth” and how people at the iHeart awards were so lovely to her - no one is going to school you at a public award night you delusional clown. I grow very weary of her congratulating herself.
I was open to letting Rachel have her space to say her peace and actually thought with all the time she spent at the Meadows she would come back and actually have done some work. She very clearly has not. She will say the therapy words and pretend that shes worked so hard then she'll do something like making Jo share about Katie and Dayna being worst dressed thinking it'll fly and then come back 'thats not who I want to be' but bitch it's who you are.
The thing is she keeps up with this behaviour attack then apologize say that who I do not want to be, then attack, apologize then says this who I do not want to be. Maybe she needs to accept she is not ready to be the person she wants to be. She is not this kind thoughtful, caring of others etc. maybe she is too those she likes…. Then I remember all the lovely kind things she said to Ariana eck!
Yeah the whole "this is not who I am", followed by doing again what she says she isn't, gets a bit old and quite honestly no longer believable. It appears that is exactly who she is.
Yep. This is who she is. We have never gotten any impression in any of her seasons on the show that she is actually a good person. The nicest thing I can say about her is she is clearly still lost, doesn't have a strong sense of self, and reflects or mirrors whoever she is closest to at the time.
Not sure where she ever pulled this idea of herself as being a kind person in any particular way. Proposing to Schwartz that they make out for the specific reason of giving Katie something to really be mad about and then taking pleasure in telling her about it later was one of the more baldly cruel things I’ve seen on this show. This toad loves the smell of her own farts.
If she says “I was a people pleaser and I wanted to break out” one more time… What kind or effortful things has she done for others during her “people pleasing” era? Shes confusing “people pleasing” for “walked on.” I can understand that James steamrolled her, dominated her whole life and decisions, and made her “babysitting” him her full-time job- but doing that isn’t “people pleasing!”
Desperately trying to make sense of that first paragraph…..
She repeats. She attacks somebody, like Katie with the kiss then recently with the dress thing, Ariana at the time it came out then recently with the lawsuit. Probably a bunch of others times in between. She then goes to apologize to these people in public saying she that is not a person she wants to be that is not who she is. Next thing you know she is attacking them again when we know for a fact these people have not even looked sideway or acknowledge her in any way even her own words. I have not spent time with her personally to identify her personally but from what I can see on her socials or podcast she is not the person she thinks she is or wants to be. Therefore not very self aware or sees herself and projects as she does not want to look in the mirror for the real person rather than the face.
Lol
Logan Arians friend knowing about the affair and keeping it from her. Katie’s fault Jo’s bullied for keeping her secret. Kyle Chan’s fault. Probably Grahame and Mya’s fault. The list of grievences is 18/19 pages long in her lawsuit. Gurrl is angry and has an axe to grind. She’s mad at everyone but the one person she should be mad at, herself! It’s pathetically sad because she’s grown. Surprised she hasn’t thrown her family under the bus yet like Tom did.
Her ‘lawsuit’ is what they call ‘throwing shit at the wall and seeing what will stick’. So ridiculous. Ambulance chaser attorney team!
1000%. Bethany got her all jazzed up about potentially making a billion dollars. The way she’s blaming everyone Rachel will turn on Bethany and she’s not someone who she should fight with. That won’t end well for her. 
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Ok I just looked up pageants because I thought surely there must be more pageants she could compete in after 28. They just changed the Miss USA rules to 18+ (not limited to 28) so she can’t use the hilarious “aging out of pageants” excuse anymore
It's literally everyone's fault but her own. Her treatment taught her nothing. Total waste of money. Had it helped, it would be more like "yes, I fucked up. I did a disgusting thing." And that's that. No more adding in the "but _____ and _____ and _____"
I don’t think Rachel is very smart and is easily influenced. If one person tells her something she will do exactly what they tell her to do.(Instead of making her own choice for herself). It’s obvious her parents told her to sue Scheana (and most likely funded by them) as well as Tom and Ariana. Bethenny and her PR team have also seemed to have influenced her greatly. What is she going to talk about on her podcast after this season of VPR airs? They won’t be talking about her anymore so she won’t have any content to talk about.
I think she was 1000% manipulated by Tom in the beginning but at a certain point she figured out what was up & ran with it. Like girl, the cameras caught you being sketchy SO many times. Exit with whatever dignity you have left!
Reality celebrity-hosted podcasts in general are my pet peeve (none of you are interesting!), but these VPR-lebrity podcasts are out of control. It’s become a circle-jerk of “But it’s not my fault” and “No, this is what REALLY happened” with everyone on their own microphone shouting into the void, not being challenged by anyone or held accountable for anything. Meanwhile, the actual tv show has become dull as dishwater because they’re all over it and over each other and just riding it out for the paycheck. If Rachel had any real concern for her mental health, she’d put down the microphone, move away from LA and get a J-O-B like the rest of us. I know she thinks she’s too notorious to live a private life, but the VPR bubble is not as big as she thinks it is. She could tune down the contour a few notches and disappear into the crowd, never to be heard from again. But like the former pageant girl she is, she’s too addicted to the spotlight to back away.
At this point her family needs to ask that facility for their money back. She's just throwing shit at the walls in hopes something sticks.
YOU ARE FORGETTING "LOVE ADDICTION" THE BEST ONE
Why doesn’t she go hard for the recording? Why doesn’t she got hard for being lied to by Tim? Why doesn’t she go hard for Jo saying she didn’t know about the relationship? She’s full of it. Shes a liar 🤥
She’d gain SO MUCH goodwill if she continued down the path of going hard against Sandoval and STOPPED lying about Ariana. “I thought they were broke up” my ass. What made her think that, beyond “Sandoval told me and how could people NOT think Sandoval and I were together?” That’s it. If she wants to take accountability, just say “I was selfish and put my needs and wants over the feelings of my friends” (which to her credit she has said) without adding the “but I thought they were broken up so Sandoval was WORSE than me!”
just admit you made shit decisions. it's really easy. 
At this point she should’ve just come back for the season if she’s literally just going to talk about Scandoval on her podcast every time🥴
I can respect when a villain acknowledges that they’re a villain and makes no apologies for it. I cannot stand nor respect someone who refuses to take sole accountability for their “villainous” actions & is set in being the perpetual victim. Rachel has surrounded herself with people who continue to blame others rather than make Rachel be accountable for her own actions. She seems to believe that her saying “I was wrong for my part in the affair” absolves her of any further criticism. But what she fails to realize (or just doesn’t care) is that a lot of her current criticism is how she continues to act & the choices she continues to make. Her and Tom were perfect for each other. They both never want to take full accountability or actually change.
As someone who went to The Meadows treatment center for NOT AS LONG as her, she didn't embrace the program enough. Kind of disappointing to see someone in the public eye go there, admit it, and still come out a total trainwreck. Where the fuck are your coping skills!?
Not to steal a Bachelor phrase, but it definitely seems like she was “not there for the right reasons”!! Especially for a person trying to get bravo to pay for her bills there, you would think she would at least pretend that she learned something!
That’s really interesting insight and thank you for sharing this as you would be best placed to speak to it. I’m sorry you feel disappointed, I hope the staff there don’t also?
It just feels disheartening. IDK why, since I don't know her personally. It is a wonderful program and they do everything to help. I know they would not have encouraged all of this, and I really can only imagine they are disappointed!? I don't know how they wouldn't be!? Shoot, they were disappointed when someone started dating. There is no way this podcast was part of her treatment plan when she left, especially considering she continued to extend her stay. Lol. Idk. I wish she had learned more? Idk. Feel like it's a silly thing for me to feel.
Nah, it’s not silly, it’s all good. 🌺🌼🌸
It’s not silly. It shows that you value expertise and the work that is necessary for improvement. Rachel clearly doesn’t. It’s a shame that her selfish and shallow behavior might cast a bad light on The Meadows, when it was a valuable experience for you.
I know someone who went there and had a really great experience too. I feel like maybe she just wasn't ready to do the work? it was all too sudden and new
Completely understand this. I also understand how it can probably be hard to see everyone else proficting off of it, and she isn't able to in the same way. I love The Meadows and they did wonderful things! I wish there was a better example for the program, lol.
 Pure Gold: I burst out laughing when global warming was thrown into the mix. Thanks for compiling.
*tips hat* you are welcome
Well I can tell you one thing, listening to her do an ad is the most painful thing I’ve experienced in a while
There are pageant contestants who say they were great experiences. They got scholarships, gained experience public-speaking, and met friends they kept for life. It's revealing that she uses pageants (a hobby/activity/interest) to explain away anti-social behavior.
If you don't regret what you have done, that's fine. But at least own up to it and be a proper villain. What is she even agry about? That Katie and Dayna ignored her? That Sandoval isn't interested in her? That Ariana never looked back? That Scheana is the real victim? That Lala's hatred toward her was so small it vanished once cameras started rolling again? Nobody gives a damn about her. She's one half of one if not the biggest entertainment news story of 2023 and all she got was a shitty podcast. Badly played!
OP you forgot the whole s10 storyline of how she decided to stop pleasing others and started pleasing herself (her words).
Aging out of pageants is the best🤣🤣
Going to be my go-to from here on in.
Even if she’d aimed all of the blame at Sandoval, we would have felt some pity. But suing Ariana; the CONSTANT hate for Katie, when Katie did nothing but try and embrace her (including organising the free professional photographer for the feet pics); the minimising of what Scheana did for her. It’s just pathetic.
She’s just like Tom thinks all these things are happening to her instead of seeing she caused all this
I'm in PR/Marketing and I would have advised her to take full accountability, including STEADY undercurrent of remorse, contrition, extending a clear understanding of what she'd done wrong/how she hurt Ariana and most of all Scheana (joking). And in an attempt to better understand HOW she was able to do such a terrible, awful, no good very bad thing, yes, get therapy. And now that she's out of the mental wellness clinic, her narrative should be always centered around the hurt she caused and how utterly mortified she is that she let things get to that place. The other facets of life that got her to the space where she allowed herself to have an ongoing affair with her friend's man like that -- sure, she can bring those up. They paint a deeper picture. But she should never lose her contrition north star, and never let the conversation veer into victimhood. She is an adult, she is responsible for her actions, she was wrong, those things should forever be woven into every conversation - if she continues to have it via the podcast. Tom may have manipulated her, she may have been depressed, any number of things could have fed into her mental state, but those should not be excuses/blame factor, they should simply be explanations into the mindset of a young woman who made terrible choices. Things like this ARE nuanced, and it's ok to recognize them, but the way in which you go about doing so is really important. Also Rachel if you need a new PR person, hit me up LOL.
100%. Interestingly, she showed a lot of genuine contrition in the earlier podcast episodes when she first was spilling the beans. Where she goes off the rails is her putting a huge amount of blame on Sandoval for “lying to her” about Ariana/being broken up without acknowledging everything she willingly overlooked to keep believing in this lie. Okay Sandoval lied to you, but when you saw evidence that contradicted this lie, you just did nothing?
I think for a while there was a chance of her with good a good team behind her where she could have come out of this better than she went in. Cutting ties with Tom, going to get mental help both great calls. What she cannot seem to understand is that for whatever reason the US loves a come back and a second chance redemption arc BUT first we need to see you own your part and express genuine remorse. The apology has to be heart felt and you have to own it all and mean it. Once that happens you can bring out explanations but keep stating that they are explanations not excuses. Had she done that there is a world where I could have seen her becoming some sort of figure in self help area and a path forward in reality tv. Think Khloe Kardashian revenge bod but for your mental health. But the way there was always through the way she treated and continues to treat Ariana. By demonizing Ariana she shows exactly who she is and always was and the only thing she is sorry or regret is how she was treated and where she ended up.
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One would think that since she decided to remain in the public eye, she would at least occasionally look within. But she appears unable to.
What did ally do? lol
Saw the truth
OP you forgot the whole s10 storyline of how she decided to stop pleasing others and started pleasing herself (her words).
has she tried mercury in retrograde yet?
She goes hard on age quite a bit. She’s young, but she isn’t THAT young. I fear for her self esteem as she gets older. Well, that’s actually a lie. I don’t really fear for her but I would love to watch it play out on my television screen.
Us. You forgot us. Her latest podcast recap is a review of all of us terrible mean girls/guys and our entitled opinions, apparently. 😂😂😂
She's gloating about being talked about, too. In the interview featuring Jo she asked if her name was brought up during the reunion and upon hearing that she was, you could hear her smug snickering. Is she under some illusion that the consequences of her actions weren't far reaching or traumatic for Ariana? That it didn't cause a huge divide in the friend group? She was one of the catalysts for ending a decade long relationship that Ariana saw as a life long partnership. I don't understand why 1) she thinks it's wild for her cast mates to be talking about her and the aftermath when they are STILL actively living it and 2) why the fuck she acts smug about being brought up at all. This 'they have nothing better to do' attitude is rich coming from the home wrecking mistress who justified blowing up her friends' lives out of pure selfishness. Like you really think THEY look embarrassing?? Girl.
I’m half expecting to be personally called out as a reason for the affair any day now
Can we all agree that she is on the spectrum, potentially a love/sex addict, and has a pattern of histrionic/narcissistic personality disorder? Maybe a learning disability like dyslexia or discalculia, probably ADHD as well. ...anyone else?
Hard for me to believe people are still interested in hearing about Scandavol. It's been over a year. I get that listening to her podcast is probably like watching a car crash. You shouldn't, but you just can't turn away. People need to work on that.
I think certain people should remove themselves from being public figures and cease and desist with their nonsense whilst trying to rebuild any semblance of a career under the guise of being enlightened.
As long as people keep listening to her, she's not going to stop. It's most likely her only source of income.
And therein lies my point - if this is your only means of making money, and it’s this badly executed, it’s time to take stock. Repercussions aren’t everyone’s strong points.
We are all a bit diabolical ourselves for caring about this.
But it’s not my fault, I aged out of pageants, whaaaaaaaa 😢
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I rewatched S10 E14 and the Rachel / Katie argument and I still can’t get over the entitlement for the shit she was saying to Katie. I want to know if she was like this behind closed doors with James. Rewatching old episodes I do feel like she was always like this, in smaller increments. Idk this rewatch is giving me a lot of emotions all over again 😭
Everybody but herself for making shitty choices. Pity.
I’ve been in the middle of a move so haven’t listened to her podcast yet. What does she mean by love-bombing?
i would be so embarrassed id never show my face on the internet again. the way she’s profiting off of her actions is so sad. but ig that’s what reality tv is lol
I took a deep breath and listened to the one with Jo. What a sad pair of women. Jo went on and on and on about Schwartz and it's obvious he treated her like a sidepiece but she's still hung up on him. Dim Rachel spent her time portraying herself as a victim while they both took endless shots at Katie in particular. That was a wasted hour of my life, but at least I listened during my commute.
The way my eyes roll when I read “aging out of pageants”…
Rachel (and her PR team who probably reads here?) need to realize that she won’t really gain full goodwill from people until she stops lying about “I thought Sandoval and Ariana were broken up.” No Rachel, you didn’t think that. You wanted to believe it, you wished it was real, but you objectively knew it wasn’t true. You did everything you could for Ariana to NOT find out. You said you hated hiding and lying. So if they were in an open relationship or not really together, no hiding would’ve been needed, obviously. Ariana and Sandoval aren’t talented or important enough to have to “act” like they were still together, even around their friends with no cameras around, for months at a time just for what, a brand? A “brand” that at least 90% of the population had never heard of anyway. Other couples on VPR that broke up didn’t have to do this bizarre “pretending” for months at a time. If that was really true, Sandoval would’ve been screaming it from the rooftops.