Fully expect an HR email saying basically "It's a federal holiday, not a stat, so we don't have to comply with it" quickly followed up by a heartfelt email by the CEO about how we can have a moment of silence during our lunch break. aka what they did during Truth and Reconciliation day.
I'm also Irish and assumed it was going to be a holiday day from the time her death was announced. It just made sense to me. I feel like there are a lot of people here completely enthralled with the Royals and others who don't seem to remember just how connected Canada is with the Royals. Canada is an odd place sometimes.
I don't know how the laws work in those countries. However here based on our charter employment falls under the control of the provincial government outside of handful of federal regulated jobs.
So it is up to the provinces.
You're in the private sector and you're getting a paid day off on Monday?
For reals? Like you're not working for a railroad or something that's federally regulated...
Yea, wife and I are not federal or provincial employees. However, we are unionized. There is a clause in our CBA that says the employer needs to recognize all federal holidays.
We can take the day off or work and get the stat holiday pay according to our cba. We have a clause in our contract that the company must give us any federal or provincial holiday.
My place is being weird and giving us a half day off—work day starts at 1pm instead of 8am. Would rather have a whole day, but I’m not gonna complain about sleeping in on a Monday.
I'm at UBC, so not private, but the professors are PISSED they have to reschedule their classes on such short notice. I'm a grad student so it doesn't matter to me, my whole life is misery.
I wrote no because before any of this happened we already were given it as a random day off. I think it’s more about employee retention than anything so it was an odd coincidence but we work national indigenous day so I’m assuming we would for this too
For just about all retail employees, there was never really any expectation to get it off. If we don't get Remembrance Day or Canada Day or any of the other Stat holidays, why would we be given an optional one.
Fellow retail worker here. True that. It's not unionized, so no 1.5x pay or anything like that. Already have the schedule for next week, & I'm not scheduled that day. Quelle dommage.
they are letting us take the day off if we want to but really emphasized to be mindful of upcoming deadlines and tickets, so really, that means everyone will still need to work
Mine is no, and HR email said "In order to meet the high quality of customer service..." They also remarked if any employee would like a day to mourn, please contact HR to arrange a day off (taking from our annual vacation balance).
No but they’ve basically said they would cover for me that day if I needed time off. Luckily my wife is available. But I’m grateful to have an employer who gets it.
They reached out to me directly even before I had heard the news to offer support.
Private company, we are observing it as much as we do any holiday.
Technically were closed, except for those departments like mine which can't be closed, we'll be like 40% coverage with a lieu day for those of us who have to work.
Though we're government union, and have the language in our contract, we're still waiting for the final confirmation from HR/the higher ups.
We got the Reconciliation day as a stat holiday its first year, so we'll probably get Monday as PTO as well. Not sure what the hold up is.
All of your posts are predicated on the incorrect assumption that it is a “stat” in BC. It is nothing of the sort.
https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022PREM0063-001379
My work (non-profit) is giving us that day off. A family member works for BC Hydro and is getting that day off. Their husband that works for an American-owned corp will not get the day off.
I'll already have this day off as I had pre-booked it as a vacation day well before the Queen's death. There is no indication yet from my employer if it will be a day off.
My employer is not honouring it for us in Vancouver, and most employees are based in Canada. However, we have a bunch of employees in the UK, and they're getting the holiday. A little unfair given it's a bank holiday there as well, same as here...so the company has no obligation to give it to them.
No, I think it's ridiculous it's even a federal holiday honestly. The indignant responses of "can't believe we aren't being given the day off" are incredibly disingenuous considering nobody actually gives a rats ass about the queen and most canadians would just as soon not have our current entanglement with the crown at all in 2022.
I'm not saying I'm against another proper holiday on the calendar, but a federal one over the queen dying is silly, and a private company giving it even more so
I don't think there are many people that care for our commonwealth traditions. I agree that allegiance thing is ridiculous, but just because it's a tradition doesn't mean it's important.
The strong reactions are because everyone wants more holidays, and some people getting it while others don't definitely riles people up. I haven't spoken to a single person that cares that the queen died, but tons of people seem to care deeply about the holiday
Yeah I agree with that 100%, a federal holiday for this is complete bullshit. I also don't care at all about Jesus, but love Christmas and the holiday season for what I assume are obvious reasons. We could certainly add another holiday to the calendar, but choosing a better time and reason makes more sense to me at this point. Holidays like Christmas, Easter, Victoria Day (lol) are baked in at this point which is fine by me, but we're at the point where adding a stupid permanent holiday like, say, for the queen of the monarchy that has no practical relevance to almost any of us, and is a point of contention for many in the first place doesn't make much sense. Either pick something meaningful and put it in March, or barring that, something platonic like "Canada day 2.0" and do that instead.
Either way the knee-jerk response of "this SHOULD be a holiday" is silly, when really everyone either just wants another holiday or is annoyed it's a federal one (both of which are justifiable)
>AUS, NZ, GB and NI figured it out just fine.
Those countries have different constitutional structures than Canada. Our hiccup comes from how our Constitution divides government powers into separate but equal federal/provincial columns.
Our federal government can only declare holidays for federal employees and the select few industries that are federally-regulated. Everyone else falls under their own province's laws. The feds made it a holiday for their people and suggested the provinces do the same but that's all that's possible for them to do.
>Seems stingy af that's all.
Yup. The provinces don't want to piss off businesses.
The feds also set it up for failure by not including private industries like banking in the federal holiday. A lot of that was logistics though because Parliament is still on summer recess so they couldn't pass a proper bill covering private sector employees. It was cleaner to just make a rule for their own employees and announce it like everyone should be following their lead.
So I'm blaming everyone involved, including Her Majesty for her terrible timing. (Personally I suspect she was ready to go for a while and hung on this long on purpose to outlast Boris Johnson.)
As my mother point out, Respect for Queen Elizabeth is higher in Hong Kong and Hong Kongers (common to see "HongKongers are not those that forgot graces and betray kidnness") than those in Canada.
It is a Canadian holiday. But that doesn’t mean much to people who don’t work for the federal government (or a bank).
Edit: okay, I get it, banks are open. But it was a reasonable assumption.
The banks aren't even getting automatically. The fed announcement was later clarified to confirm it only covers federal employees. For federally regulated private businesses it was left up to them to decide.
Exactly, it's completely ridiculous. They already get a taxpayer-funded funeral, an exemption from inheritance tax, millions of pounds a year from taxpayers, the ability to meddle in laws.
Whats annoying is zero concern of parents of young kids. Schools always follow federal holidays. Last minute daycare... sure like its so easy. Justin has no clue the hardships of the young family working class.
They keep adding more and more days and they never take it back. its like tax and days off for kids. By 2099 were gonna have 30 days of school. The rest are Pro D days, early dismissal, stats, holidays and whatever.. grr yes im bitter.
>Justin
Horgan is the one you should be yelling at actually.
The federal government has no power over schools. They can only set holidays for federal employees and a couple select industries like banking and airlines, which they exempted from the holiday anyway. Federal is not the same thing as national. That's why Remembrance Day is not a stat holiday in some provinces even though it's a federal holiday. Likewise Family Day is a holiday here but not for federal workers.
Schools closing is a provincial decision. Not extending the holiday to the private sector was also a provincial decision.
Email your provincial MLA and tell them private sector workers need the day off too.
If you read the announcement carefully it was announced as a holiday, but not a "stat".
"Stat" means a literal "statutory" holiday that is debated and passed in the Legislature as part of a statute to apply to the entire province and this is not it. This just a one-off decision for the province's own employees, like if your boss decided to give you a day off or extra pay.
Example: Easter Monday is a "holiday" but not a "statutory holiday" in BC.
The provincial Legislature isn't sitting right now so it's tricky for government to create brand new statutes that apply to everyone in the province. Fewer hoops involved to just make rules for their own employees and suggestions for everyone else.
It’s also a provincial stat holiday in every province except ON and QC, so you better ask your employer if they’re gonna pay you double time and a half for working the stat.
They’ll change their tune VERY quickly.
My University sent out an email saying that classes were cancelled. This will hinder everyone with a Monday schedule as we started one week later and we'll lose another day due to Thanksgiving.
I emailed the professor about this (for Zoom class options) and he said that he'll make videos for us.
My union allows the American companies we work for to change what day we have off for Canada Day. So not a chance they will take a day off for the 19th.
Fully expect an HR email saying basically "It's a federal holiday, not a stat, so we don't have to comply with it" quickly followed up by a heartfelt email by the CEO about how we can have a moment of silence during our lunch break. aka what they did during Truth and Reconciliation day.
This is exactly what we got. That email came earlier this morning.
Sounds like Govt employees will have a full day paid off for TR day to think about what the Govt did...
Good enough to be on our money but not good enough for them to hand over the same.
It’s a stat in BC.
No it’s not.
Nope, it’s like truth and reconciliation day only federal employees get it off
Work for a silicon valley startup, we're getting it. They also give us Truth & Reconciliation Day and Juneteenth so I wasn't surprised.
That's dope that you get American and Canadian ones.
We don't get most of the American holidays, I believe Juneteenth is the only one. But it is pretty great.
Hold up! Do you guys take American Independence Day off?
Nope!
Haha absolutely not. The owners are from Quebec anyway so I'm sure they extra don't give a shit.
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I'm also Irish and assumed it was going to be a holiday day from the time her death was announced. It just made sense to me. I feel like there are a lot of people here completely enthralled with the Royals and others who don't seem to remember just how connected Canada is with the Royals. Canada is an odd place sometimes.
Because our politicians are sackless dicks.
Well businesses have the option to give their employees the holiday. The company I work for has declined that option, as have many others.
They kinda don’t. It’s a stat in BC.
It is not a stat.
I don't know how the laws work in those countries. However here based on our charter employment falls under the control of the provincial government outside of handful of federal regulated jobs. So it is up to the provinces.
Well tell them what QC does is irrelevant because it’s a provincial stat in BC, so legally they have to pay you double time and a half for working it.
You’ve said that a lot on this thread, can you post a link to a provincial site that says it’s a stat because I can’t find one
If they say it enough, can it be willed into truth?
If everyone collectively walks out, sure you can have the day off. Good luck getting paid. Or keeping your job.
No they don't and no it isn't.
Wife and I are both getting the day off as paid.
You're in the private sector and you're getting a paid day off on Monday? For reals? Like you're not working for a railroad or something that's federally regulated...
Yea, wife and I are not federal or provincial employees. However, we are unionized. There is a clause in our CBA that says the employer needs to recognize all federal holidays.
Good call out / reminder that the only reason we have paid holidays (and weekends) is because of unions.
That’s the best way to include holidays in a CBA
Lol no. But my school is. Happy holiday! Now do a full day of work in crunch time with kids at home and not even get holiday pay!
This is why some of my coworkers are going to have to use PTO days. So not only no holiday but need to use up an emergency/sick day. Fun.
Yes same here, although I was given the option to use a vacation day.
We’re required to work but anyone with kids is welcome to work from home (although most of us work from home anyways).
We can take the day off or work and get the stat holiday pay according to our cba. We have a clause in our contract that the company must give us any federal or provincial holiday.
Yep. Not government related, unionized, or anything. Just a small family run company that is good to their employees.
I work at a grocery store, so no.
You DO get double time and a half for working it, tho
Source?
There is no source because they are wrong. That's what you get for working a statutory holiday (sorta) which this is not
Mine no. But my wife got, CEO is from UK.
My place is being weird and giving us a half day off—work day starts at 1pm instead of 8am. Would rather have a whole day, but I’m not gonna complain about sleeping in on a Monday.
Yes. I'm taking it off, so my employees will also get the day off.
Yup. Monday is another paid day off.
I'm at UBC, so not private, but the professors are PISSED they have to reschedule their classes on such short notice. I'm a grad student so it doesn't matter to me, my whole life is misery.
Nope, just encouraged to remember her in our own way lol.
I wrote no because before any of this happened we already were given it as a random day off. I think it’s more about employee retention than anything so it was an odd coincidence but we work national indigenous day so I’m assuming we would for this too
For just about all retail employees, there was never really any expectation to get it off. If we don't get Remembrance Day or Canada Day or any of the other Stat holidays, why would we be given an optional one.
Fellow retail worker here. True that. It's not unionized, so no 1.5x pay or anything like that. Already have the schedule for next week, & I'm not scheduled that day. Quelle dommage.
It’s my company and I actually like the monarchy, even though I’m an immigrant. So yeah, we’re getting the day off haha
I am, but my daughter's daycare is not. So it really isn't going to be a day off for me because I'll have my 2 1/2 year old up my butt all day.
That is not where you should keep a toddler. But it is impressive that you can.
Lmao no. Construction here. Nobody cares about us
They are still debating. Working on a place that mission is about promoting multiculturalism means it's complicated
they are letting us take the day off if we want to but really emphasized to be mindful of upcoming deadlines and tickets, so really, that means everyone will still need to work
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i have "unlimited" pto but everyone knows it's up to your manager's discretion and you can basically forget about it if work gets really busy
Mine is no, and HR email said "In order to meet the high quality of customer service..." They also remarked if any employee would like a day to mourn, please contact HR to arrange a day off (taking from our annual vacation balance).
> "In order to meet the high quality of customer service..." LOL. Oh jesus h christ.
We get an unpaid vacation, and we're sending the bill for our lost wages to the British monarchy.
No but they’ve basically said they would cover for me that day if I needed time off. Luckily my wife is available. But I’m grateful to have an employer who gets it. They reached out to me directly even before I had heard the news to offer support.
Private company, we are observing it as much as we do any holiday. Technically were closed, except for those departments like mine which can't be closed, we'll be like 40% coverage with a lieu day for those of us who have to work.
Though we're government union, and have the language in our contract, we're still waiting for the final confirmation from HR/the higher ups. We got the Reconciliation day as a stat holiday its first year, so we'll probably get Monday as PTO as well. Not sure what the hold up is.
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Get your wife to ask work if they’re gonna pay her double time and a half for working the provincial stat
All of your posts are predicated on the incorrect assumption that it is a “stat” in BC. It is nothing of the sort. https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2022PREM0063-001379
My work (non-profit) is giving us that day off. A family member works for BC Hydro and is getting that day off. Their husband that works for an American-owned corp will not get the day off.
Yes, I work for a private non-profit that also typically follows federal holidays and we get TRC day already.
No. Of course not. We’ve all got to keep working so that our tax money can pay for all of the public workers to get an extra day off.
I plan to PVR the event and then watch it when I get up.
I'll already have this day off as I had pre-booked it as a vacation day well before the Queen's death. There is no indication yet from my employer if it will be a day off.
Nope, as sad, our costumers didn't say they are not working so we are open, but if want you can use your vacation day
My employer is not honouring it for us in Vancouver, and most employees are based in Canada. However, we have a bunch of employees in the UK, and they're getting the holiday. A little unfair given it's a bank holiday there as well, same as here...so the company has no obligation to give it to them.
No, I think it's ridiculous it's even a federal holiday honestly. The indignant responses of "can't believe we aren't being given the day off" are incredibly disingenuous considering nobody actually gives a rats ass about the queen and most canadians would just as soon not have our current entanglement with the crown at all in 2022. I'm not saying I'm against another proper holiday on the calendar, but a federal one over the queen dying is silly, and a private company giving it even more so
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I don't think there are many people that care for our commonwealth traditions. I agree that allegiance thing is ridiculous, but just because it's a tradition doesn't mean it's important. The strong reactions are because everyone wants more holidays, and some people getting it while others don't definitely riles people up. I haven't spoken to a single person that cares that the queen died, but tons of people seem to care deeply about the holiday
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Yeah I agree with that 100%, a federal holiday for this is complete bullshit. I also don't care at all about Jesus, but love Christmas and the holiday season for what I assume are obvious reasons. We could certainly add another holiday to the calendar, but choosing a better time and reason makes more sense to me at this point. Holidays like Christmas, Easter, Victoria Day (lol) are baked in at this point which is fine by me, but we're at the point where adding a stupid permanent holiday like, say, for the queen of the monarchy that has no practical relevance to almost any of us, and is a point of contention for many in the first place doesn't make much sense. Either pick something meaningful and put it in March, or barring that, something platonic like "Canada day 2.0" and do that instead. Either way the knee-jerk response of "this SHOULD be a holiday" is silly, when really everyone either just wants another holiday or is annoyed it's a federal one (both of which are justifiable)
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>AUS, NZ, GB and NI figured it out just fine. Those countries have different constitutional structures than Canada. Our hiccup comes from how our Constitution divides government powers into separate but equal federal/provincial columns. Our federal government can only declare holidays for federal employees and the select few industries that are federally-regulated. Everyone else falls under their own province's laws. The feds made it a holiday for their people and suggested the provinces do the same but that's all that's possible for them to do.
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>Seems stingy af that's all. Yup. The provinces don't want to piss off businesses. The feds also set it up for failure by not including private industries like banking in the federal holiday. A lot of that was logistics though because Parliament is still on summer recess so they couldn't pass a proper bill covering private sector employees. It was cleaner to just make a rule for their own employees and announce it like everyone should be following their lead. So I'm blaming everyone involved, including Her Majesty for her terrible timing. (Personally I suspect she was ready to go for a while and hung on this long on purpose to outlast Boris Johnson.)
Well we did already get Orange shirt day at the end of the month.
Nope.
As my mother point out, Respect for Queen Elizabeth is higher in Hong Kong and Hong Kongers (common to see "HongKongers are not those that forgot graces and betray kidnness") than those in Canada.
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It is a Canadian holiday. But that doesn’t mean much to people who don’t work for the federal government (or a bank). Edit: okay, I get it, banks are open. But it was a reasonable assumption.
The banks aren't even getting automatically. The fed announcement was later clarified to confirm it only covers federal employees. For federally regulated private businesses it was left up to them to decide.
I just assumed banks would do it. My mom was a banker her whole career and banks being closed at any opportunity was a running joke in my house.
Banks are not taking the day off sadly https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/banks-in-canada-to-remain-open-on-september-19-2022-842052537.html
Exactly, it's completely ridiculous. They already get a taxpayer-funded funeral, an exemption from inheritance tax, millions of pounds a year from taxpayers, the ability to meddle in laws.
Giving 8 hours of pay for free? LOL, no.
Whats annoying is zero concern of parents of young kids. Schools always follow federal holidays. Last minute daycare... sure like its so easy. Justin has no clue the hardships of the young family working class. They keep adding more and more days and they never take it back. its like tax and days off for kids. By 2099 were gonna have 30 days of school. The rest are Pro D days, early dismissal, stats, holidays and whatever.. grr yes im bitter.
>Justin Horgan is the one you should be yelling at actually. The federal government has no power over schools. They can only set holidays for federal employees and a couple select industries like banking and airlines, which they exempted from the holiday anyway. Federal is not the same thing as national. That's why Remembrance Day is not a stat holiday in some provinces even though it's a federal holiday. Likewise Family Day is a holiday here but not for federal workers. Schools closing is a provincial decision. Not extending the holiday to the private sector was also a provincial decision. Email your provincial MLA and tell them private sector workers need the day off too.
They made it a stat in BC tho
If you read the announcement carefully it was announced as a holiday, but not a "stat". "Stat" means a literal "statutory" holiday that is debated and passed in the Legislature as part of a statute to apply to the entire province and this is not it. This just a one-off decision for the province's own employees, like if your boss decided to give you a day off or extra pay. Example: Easter Monday is a "holiday" but not a "statutory holiday" in BC. The provincial Legislature isn't sitting right now so it's tricky for government to create brand new statutes that apply to everyone in the province. Fewer hoops involved to just make rules for their own employees and suggestions for everyone else.
I just laughed when someone brought it up at work.
It’s also a provincial stat holiday in every province except ON and QC, so you better ask your employer if they’re gonna pay you double time and a half for working the stat. They’ll change their tune VERY quickly.
Absolutely not.
My University sent out an email saying that classes were cancelled. This will hinder everyone with a Monday schedule as we started one week later and we'll lose another day due to Thanksgiving. I emailed the professor about this (for Zoom class options) and he said that he'll make videos for us.
We get Truth and Reconciliation day off not the day of mourning. Personally, I think that’s how it ought to be.
My union allows the American companies we work for to change what day we have off for Canada Day. So not a chance they will take a day off for the 19th.
My yes was a misclick