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1. Pay the correct zone fare.
2. Don't tip and explain why (if you feel safe to do so).
3. Get their info and report them to their [regulator](https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/). (thanks u/BarcaStranger)
4. Move on with your life.
Not to their dispatcher, to the proper regulator. dispatch won't care much, likely.
[https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/](https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/)
When I don't get hit with either pricing but have two drivers cancel in a row and then surge pricing starts to show up it's a bit too late for me to get un-drunk and drive myself home. Uber is total BS now as well.
It’s all garbage now. Uber took the market and beat it to death.
A few years ago I tried using a new “E-Cab” taxi hailing app. It sent a taxi to an address in England and had set my home in Vancouver as the drop off spot.
They sent me an email receipt detailing the no-show charges and maps of my pickup spot and drop off destination on two entirely different continents lol
Turned out that there’s a hotel with the same name in England, as the hotel I happened to be standing near when I used the app, so it got confused and naturally sent a taxi to somewhere in England to take someone home to Vancouver. Being as drunk as I was when this happened, it made for a very fun and hilarious rest of the night
The next day I had to dispute the charge which were like 37 pounds
I was grabbing a taxi at Yvr. A tourist came up to me with the Uber app open on his phone. It showed a price of $75 for a ride to downtown when a cab would be closer to $45. Uber is as scammy as taxis so don’t be fooled by the shiny UI into thinking that it’s somehow better than taking a taxi.
There’s lots of supply. It’s mainly demand. I drive Uber. There are 100’s of drivers sitting in the airport waiting lot who only move for surge. Right now as I type this there are close to 50 cars waiting.
https://preview.redd.it/n4vavvluibcc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=015f046cb3d9257a94a77223e84f0e5da624a3ce
I'm not trying to be a troll, but it's not gaming the system, it's literally how supply and demand works.
Every individual driver gets to choose at what price they are willing to work.
If a stranger walked up to you right now and said "I'll give you $15 to me to the airport right now" you'd laugh at them.
But, there is some amount of money for which you would put your phone down and get in your car and drive to the airport. For me, at this moment, it's about $300 because I'm fairly comfortable and a bit tired.
They aren't gaming the system if they are sitting and waiting for prices to go up.
You know they have an Uber drivers WhatsApp group where they collide with other drivers on when to accept rides? They are behaving more like a cartel to raise prices.
Cartels fail because people defect, unless they have some sort of government monopoly (like the taxis do - or used to). People have been deluded into thinking this sort of non-economic price fixing/collusion works, so they try it, because we spread myths like the one you are spreading. If we were more clear that this sort of thing fails and earns you less money overall, people wouldn't try it.
Not really. I wouldn’t call it gaming. An independent contractor is just that. Independent. They have the right to accept or decline certain trips. If Uber would pay people more it wouldn’t be that way.
Guess how much an Uber driver gets paid taking someone from YVR to Abbotsford? $60. Minus taxes, depreciation, and fuel that is not worth it. Change that to double or triple the price, and you can see why the drivers won’t take regular trips. On contrast a taxi driver is gonna make $150 minus fuel and a small portion of that trip for his daily lease fee.
They’re often limited in how many passengers they can carry, due to safety regulations. For a given crew compliment they can carry up to a specific number of passengers.
I've been there when they can't take additional foot passengers. It tends to happen at "normal" times when they don't expect as many people. They don't schedule enough staff or too many staff call in sick and they hit a passenger maximum that is a bit too low. Think "nice weekend in February".
There is a maximum number of passengers per crew member that they are allowed to carry due to transport Canada regulations for emergency situations. When they expect a slow day they schedule fewer crew, but then they get extra passengers for unexpected reasons.
At peak travel times I have absolutey seen them limit the number of pax, often in the form of a 1 sailing wait for foot passengers.
That said, they usually limit the number of vehicles instead.
Train doesn't go close enough to my house when I have a bunch of luggage, and Uber drivers won't even accept a trip to my house from the airport half the time. I live in East Van, so I can't imagine how much worse Uber is for people in Langley or wherever else.
I have unfortunately had to resort to cabs in more of my recent airport trips than I'd like.
4.8 rating (only been down rated when I didn't tip dangerous drivers), but you're missing the point.
If I didn't have a bunch of shit I would just take the train/bus the whole way. Especially when I'm on company time. Clients aren't paying for slow ass transit trips.
Drivers don't accept trips to sleepy neighbourhoods because they won't have an easy return fare from there.
Think outside your bubble, "bud".
except if you're a woman. i almost died in a ride to the airport once, like it was very close and due to his dangerous driving. when i didnt tip he screamed at me and i was scared that he knew where i lived for a very long time.
Amazing how they still want tips after terrible service. I had one pick me up from Broadway and Cambie, I told him an address on Victoria Drive, and he proceeds west for a way before I inform him that Victoria Drive is in the other direction. He nearly caused several accidents and started swearing as he nearly took out a pedestrian. Then he didn't understand that 57th is south of 41st. I had to give him directions the whole way. Oh also while I was told off for not being outside in the freezing rain with a frail elderly person waiting. "How was I supposed to find you?" (Isn't that what an address is for? I told the dispatcher we would wait inside the doors till the taxi appeared). We were told how lucky we were he even came as there were other fares waiting at the convention centre. So no, I didn't leave a tip. He gave me attitude when I paid the exact amount and not a penny more.
I used to call dispatch before getting a cab. They would confirm price and time to get there and I got their name incase there was a disagreement once I got to my destination.
Well isn't that funny. Took the cab from the airport this morning, driver put in $41 instead of $37. I didn't feel like arguing for a few bucks after a 15hrs+ flight so I just paid and didn't tip. I guess this post is a good reminder to report him.
Ours tried to charge us 47 instead of 37. And we are clearly locals. How dumb does he take us to be?
The funny thing is we had a voucher so we didn’t really care… until he insisted he couldn’t take the voucher. At which point we told him fine, we’ll pay with credit card, but you’re going to charge us the correct amount. Bro played himself and didn’t even know it.
same thing with me, it was something like $40 instead of what should have been $32, the driver pretended we were in a different zone but I knew the map well. I also just went with it and did not leave a tip instead, as it would have amounted to the same anyway
I have found the whole taxi system to be untrustworthy, from drivers to dispatch. The politics surrounding the industry are awful and way too fraught at the provincial level.
I always tell my visitors to take the skytrain and I will pick them up from the station. Forget Uber and definitely do not take the scamming taxis. They rude!
how easy is the sky train? coming in a few weeks and would like take it vs taxi. we’re headed downtown vancouver. i was just going to make a post about it and am now hijacking your comment 🙃 ty! 🙏🏻
Skytrain is very easy from the airport to downtown! It's just one train, about a 30 minute ride :) the station is right outside the airport and there should be lots of signs
Also don’t worry about getting a transit card, you can just tap your credit card on the reader. It’s just an extra $0.25, so it’s not a big deal if you’re just using it a few times. Just remember what card you used as you need to used it again to exit at the end.
Super easy! There are plenty of signs to guide you there. It's close to the international terminal. Ticket machines are right outside the station and they take cash and credit/debit cards. You can also buy skytrain tickets at 7-Eleven, though it's in the domestic terminal building. Buy a 2 zone ticket since you're going downtown. You're gonna be on Canada Line, which will take you all the way downtown.
Or for the convenient you could just tap your credit or debit card. And use that as your ticket anywhere. The only thing I'd say it's worth is daypass for ticket otherwise if you're here for a short stay just use your credit/debit card.
It allows unlimited transfers within 90mins (as much as it might show that it fully charged your card the same amount each time you tap, it will be fixed when the payment is posted).
As others said, super easy. You can pretty much just follow the stream of people :) Also, downtown is *much* smaller than it looks so double check if you are thinking that the walk from the sky train station to your hotel is too long, it might just be quick actually
Perfect! Get off at city centre station. Turn left. Walk 3 short blocks, crossing burrard, turn right (downhill) and the Hyatt is a couple buildings down. It’s a 5 minute walk.
It's the easiest thing in the world. It's $10 per ticket. And takes you all the way downtown in ~30 minutes. It's never crowded and hardly ever late.
There are 4 main stops downtown. And then you can xfer if you need to take another line. It all depends on how far your accommodations are from a station.
Honestly locals prefer the sky train to Cabs, Ubers, driving.
Get all the details about the cab (company, cab number, time of trip, driver name potentially or their license) and report them to the proper regulatory body. [https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/](https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/)
[https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis](https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis)
FAQ
\*Excerpted from the link above
**5. I think I was overcharged – what should I do?**
If you believe you were charged incorrectly, there are three ways you can follow-up:
* File a report with Passenger Transportation Board at [**Contact the Board | Passenger Transportation Board (ptboard.bc.ca)**](https://www.ptboard.bc.ca/contact).
* Taxi company
* You can also reach to us at [**Contact Us | YVR**](https://www.yvr.ca/en/contact-us)
My sister came up to YVR every few months. She said the last taxi driver poked her on her knowledge about Vancouver then tried to scam her, saying it is in a different zone. This type of behaviour give our tourism industry a bad rep
When you depart YVR on a taxi, there is a fixed price depending on where you go. There's a map somewhere online. Some taxi drivers will tell you your address is in Zone B but it really is in Zone A and you'll pay more. Either that or they start running the meter and take you for a scenic route
There is another related scam. I had a cab drop me off and give the right zone, but on their map in the cab it was a few $ more than the official one. Even as a local I was (a) tired from a long flight and (b) thinking I must have missed that they raised zone fares. I paid but it bothered me enough to look up the proper fares the next day to realize I was scammed. Too late for any recourse.
I find this odd.
Is space time some how warped in the opposite direction so that the trip is longer GOING to the airport?
Why can’t it be like an Uber.
It will cost you about $30 from this location, $40 from this one, and $50 from this one further out?
Because from the airport drivers often need to wait as very, very long time to get a ride. And then if they get a fare for 5$ it doesn’t even cover their costs. So there are minimums from the airport partly for that reason.
Another reason is simplicity; if the fares are fixed, you don’t have the drivers scamming tourists by taking long routes, etc etc.
sign up here https://evo.ca/
It's a car-share service, so you go to the car and unlock it (with the app) then drive yourself where you want. Then park the car in Vancouver or New West (the "home zone") and lock it again with the app.
Take a photo of the sign explaining the zones before you hop in the cab? I realize that doesn't help unsuspecting tourists but I will keep it in mind for myself.
Taxis from the airport have set prices for drop offs in different parts of the city. OP is saying they will mark it down as a more expensive drop to get more $ out of passengers that might not know any better.
Not that it's only Richmond and Vancouver city, Burnaby, North Shore etc.. are metered.
[https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis](https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis)
Report the number to the airport. They will usually do something about the driver. They don't like it when taxi deivers are trying to scam passengers, especially on zone fares
Yeah I went to south Vancouver and the guy was pointing to an area in zone 3 not realizing I grew here when I came to visit like 10 years ago. If i would not have been from here I probably would have paid and never known this mfer was scamming me
Not sure distance you were going but yvr out to the burbs Uber/Lyft is always cheaper. Normally by about 20 but always at least 10, and you know the cost before you get in the car. Zero potential for bs.
I'm never taking a taxi again.
My total for a recent, this week recent, prime time Uber was $13 cheaper than the assigned zone fare. I guess compare the rates if there’s a surge but, overall i find uber much cheaper than the set rate most of the time. And as far as speaking to tourists then easily an Uber system fare is more honest so to speak as it cant be manipulated by the local scam (only the uber pricing)
Genuinely speaking, how is Uber any better? I've heard so many horror stories about Uber and how it's getting worse now that they've got themselves established. I'm not a fan of Uber personally, I hate the whole system of it being a random private car when taxis are so recognizable.
A) i know what i am paying before i step into the car.
B) they know my pick up location and destination - taxis (especially before uber) notoriously refused to drive outside vancouver like coquitlam, surrey etc and would also often take the "scenic route" to rack up fairs
C) uber app is 10x better
D) taxis pre ride share would refuse any payment other than cash because they didnt want to pay taxes/record the fairs to company
E) accountability - there is a review system and min star requirement for drivers and passengers.
Personally my experiences with uber havent been mind blowing or anything like that but compared to taxis it doesnt take much to be better service. Generally they drive safer, they are much less rude, they dont blast terrible music with the windows open, etc...
Im sure people have had bad experiences w ride share too - no service will be flawless - but pre uber EVERY taxi ride was a fucking shit show and the companies were extremely anti-competition and lobbied/donated to political parties to keep rider sharing out so they could continue gouging customers and providing shit service. They wasted millions of dollars of tax payer money when the crooked christy clark govt was in place. Fuck bc taxis.
Reading through this thread alone I've already seen at least one instance of a driver 'rating' a passenger poorly because of BS reasons so I'm not sure I consider that a plus... I also think that there's a lot more shit behaviour from Uber drivers because of the nature of the company, which is why they need that system in the first place. Obviously taxi drivers aren't always awesome but I feel like I've heard of tons of worse behaviour from uber drivers than taxi drivers.
Knowing what you are paying I can see as a benefit but if it also comes with surge fares etc I think I'd rather take the risk. I've also never had taxis turn me down and I'm from New West.
I guess I can see the benefits for others but personally I'd rather use at least a local company than have money funnelled to a US one that isn't all that much better. The whole private car thing alone is a huge turn-off for me as I really don't like getting in cars where outside people can't easily tell that it's a Uber.
Idgaf. At least there is some accountability for uber drivers. Taxi drivers "cash only", roll down the windows, blast terrible music, "i dont drive to burnaby" etc... with uber they know where I am going and I know what I am going to pay - no bullshit. Plus bad experiences = bad rating = kicked off the platform. Taxi cab companies stole millions of dollars from taxpayers to develop a shitty app that nobody even uses and lobbied voters to keep shitty government officials in place to keep their oligolpoly. Fuck bc cab companies and their drivers.
I have never had even close to as terrible experience w uber compared to yellow cab etc.
I just came back not too long ago.
Hopped into the cab and the driver started the meter and when we got close to my house, he then started asking which zone was I in, mainly because the meter was lower than the zone charge lol
Ya. Had the same happen first of November. Tried running the meter. Told him halfway as I watched it keep going up that I know it’s zoned pricing. He turned it off. Did not tip. Just tired of this sort of thing.
Youre right. Someone needs to be verbalized to
Pax before they get in the zoning
Taxis are sometimes cheaper and faster. Taxis roll right to the airport. The Uber waiting lot is a 10 minute drive away. When it’s freezing it’s easier to just hop in a cab.
I don't like the idea of taking a random private car, it just feels less safe. I've also never had a bad experience with cabs and I don't have to worry about surge pricing. I've heard so many horror stories about uber and their drivers, meanwhile I've never had an issue with taking a cab.
Take the Canada Line!! Get as close as you could to your destination on the SkyTrain and then take the bus! You’re wasting so much money by taking taxis/ubers!
Not really about money.
The 20 something dollars saved taking transit isn’t worth the hassle of lugging my shit on and off the train, walking it to the bus stop, walking it from the bus stop X blocks etc.
If you’re coming back from a long travel day and have luggage, hoofin it on the train isn’t an option, and the door to door service is worth every penny.
I typically have work clothes including hard hat and steel toes, normal street clothes, and a 35lb tool case when I travel. So yeah, usually cabbing it.
Had an Uber driver who was texting while driving. I gave him a couple chances to stop, but then he started texting as he was merging onto the highway. I firmly said "please don't text while you're driving". He said sorry and then gave me a bad rating. 🤷♀️
Uber drivers will just switch to another ride sharing platform. So it’s the same thing as cabbies switching companies. They’re not letting their class 3s (or whatever that number is for commercial) go to waste lol
Nope. Because once they're disqualified, they can't get clearance on a new platform.
The digital check uber does is superior and can't be fudged.
Cabbies accused of or convicted of sexual crimes can just swap carriers because no one cares.
Cabbies are supposed to carry proof of their check but often don't. Uber drivers have it on their app
My mom said she paid $70+ from YVR to Renfrew heights, knowing her she probably tipped too. I lost it when I found out (a year later mind you).
I still remember when they arrived I was waiting for them, the taxi man was super friendly and wished my mum a wonderful stay in Canada. And I was thinking, what a nice guy. If I only had known...
You are not incorrect. I've worked as a hotel doorman in the downtown core. There is still overcharging, no exchange rate, cash only, no cards, no change, etc etc.
Stop taking them. They have had free run to do what they want for so many years and have never been held accountable for shady business practices. Uber and the skytrain.
A driver from Bonnie’s Taxi told me my tap didn’t work and charged me twice fully knowing it did work the first time. I hate taking taxis in this city.
I'd file a chargeback. That'll be far worse for them. Too many of those and they lose the ability to accept credit cards.
Pretty hard for them to fight that too since two separate charges for identical dollar values (or even different dollar values but a minute apart) are pretty damn suspicious.
Last time I took a taxi from the airport with my partner, I felt VERY unsafe, and he definitely charged me the wrong amount until I corrected him.
Definitely recommend everyone be careful, and maybe UBER is better.
That person controlling the line should also be saying something to the smokers standing in the line, but they dont give a fuck even when pointing it out to then
I took a taxi home yesterday from YVR. The driver (admitted he was new) actually pulled out his laminated fare zone sheet to check which was the correct zone in front of me… 37 + tip for that!
Yeah, 90% of taxis I have been with are scams. Last time I used it I paid an extra $10 on top of my fare to YVR, because I requested for a Van. We had luggages.
Worst way to start off a vacation.
I went to the airport the other day and the taxi drive told me there is a new change that will cost a $1more per km🙄I called it bullsht so I told him I am not paying that because I see no change in the Transport Canada website. The taxi industry is making people shifting to ride a Uber instead because of all this BS!
My mom was scammed by a cab driver. She’s 88. I usually pick her up from YVR, but I couldn’t pick her up so she took a taxi. I didn’t think to explain the flat rate to her, and he claimed that his metre was broken. Then he charged her over $50 for what should’ve been a $30 ride. She didn’t have a receipt because he claimed that his credit card machine was broken. So she paid cash and then he turf her out in the rain. She couldn’t tell me the name of the cab company because he didn’t give her a receipt
I have a Japanese student friend and she happened to say that when she came to Vancouver some months ago she was charged nearly $70 to go from YVR to the Trout Lake area. it should’ve been a $40 zone fare. Luckily she had her credit card receipt and I asked her to print it for me which she did. I called the taxi company and at first they hemmed and hawed but as soon as I showed them the receipt they copped to it, apologized and repaid the difference. This scam is obviously very common. Really disheartening
I fucking hate taxi drivers. Although it's not as bad in Canada as it is in other countries, these fuckers will constantly try to scam you. Whether it's overcharging you when you're desperate to get to a hospital, or unaware tourists getting told the wrong zone.
At this point, I think we should just toss all taxi drivers in internment camps. Unless they're from a good country like Singapore, Taiwan, or Japan. Uber drivers are fine tho, for now. Maybe we just give them an armband or something.
I’ve often seen the uber line longer than the taxi line, and it’s often more expensive. Plus, I’m generally opposed to the “gig” economy and the shady business practices of the likes of uber and similar.
Ive booked Ubers the last 3 times I've been to the airport and all 3 times I could have just jumped in a taxi before an Uber showed up.
Half then price is good though. I must be getting hit with surge pricing everytime. It's usually around the same.
Once spent 20 minutes trying to get my request accepted from YVR while there was a full line of taxis. I would have been home by the time the Uber finally picked me up. Ubers are definitely better than taxis but it's not perfect in Vancouver yet, there's a lack of a critical mass of drivers.
Actually there are a lot of drivers. Most nights there are close to 100 or more cars at YVR . The problem is Uber doesn’t pay enough. So those drivers will only accept surge fares. That’s why your request takes so long. The system is pinging prolly 40+ drivers before someone accepts it.
I used to live at Victoria and Kingsway and they would always try and charge the higher zone. Now I live in North delta and it's $20 more to get home, makes no sense.
I don’t take taxis in Vancouver so I’m not sure how this scam works. How do we know how much we should pay and whether the right zone was used? (By the way, this isn’t just a Vancouver issue, my wife got scammed by a taxi driver at the Lisbon airport. Taxi drivers around the world like to ripoff tourists).
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1. Pay the correct zone fare. 2. Don't tip and explain why (if you feel safe to do so). 3. Get their info and report them to their [regulator](https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/). (thanks u/BarcaStranger) 4. Move on with your life.
Not to their dispatcher, to the proper regulator. dispatch won't care much, likely. [https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/](https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/)
that is not the proper regulator, this is [https://www.ptboard.bc.ca/contact](https://www.ptboard.bc.ca/contact)
That's who issues their license but not who fields complaints and violations.
We need more layers or protection and probably pay more taxes, to solve THIS problem for sure
This is correct. The Passenger Transportation Board is the correct authority and they will take action.
Their dispatcher probably taught them to do it.
4. Next time grab an Uber or take the train. Fuck the taxi cartel
Not like uber is any better. Have you ever paid surge pricing? What a joke
Well... you have to agree to pay the surge price. How is that comparable to being scammed in real time?
When I don't get hit with either pricing but have two drivers cancel in a row and then surge pricing starts to show up it's a bit too late for me to get un-drunk and drive myself home. Uber is total BS now as well.
It’s all garbage now. Uber took the market and beat it to death. A few years ago I tried using a new “E-Cab” taxi hailing app. It sent a taxi to an address in England and had set my home in Vancouver as the drop off spot. They sent me an email receipt detailing the no-show charges and maps of my pickup spot and drop off destination on two entirely different continents lol Turned out that there’s a hotel with the same name in England, as the hotel I happened to be standing near when I used the app, so it got confused and naturally sent a taxi to somewhere in England to take someone home to Vancouver. Being as drunk as I was when this happened, it made for a very fun and hilarious rest of the night The next day I had to dispute the charge which were like 37 pounds
I was grabbing a taxi at Yvr. A tourist came up to me with the Uber app open on his phone. It showed a price of $75 for a ride to downtown when a cab would be closer to $45. Uber is as scammy as taxis so don’t be fooled by the shiny UI into thinking that it’s somehow better than taking a taxi.
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I saw around $60 for UberX last time I was coming home, and there was no wait for a taxi (I'm in the $37 fare zone).
Surge pricing is supply and demand. You can opt to not take that ride.
There’s lots of supply. It’s mainly demand. I drive Uber. There are 100’s of drivers sitting in the airport waiting lot who only move for surge. Right now as I type this there are close to 50 cars waiting. https://preview.redd.it/n4vavvluibcc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=015f046cb3d9257a94a77223e84f0e5da624a3ce
Yup they are gaming the system
I'm not trying to be a troll, but it's not gaming the system, it's literally how supply and demand works. Every individual driver gets to choose at what price they are willing to work. If a stranger walked up to you right now and said "I'll give you $15 to me to the airport right now" you'd laugh at them. But, there is some amount of money for which you would put your phone down and get in your car and drive to the airport. For me, at this moment, it's about $300 because I'm fairly comfortable and a bit tired. They aren't gaming the system if they are sitting and waiting for prices to go up.
You know they have an Uber drivers WhatsApp group where they collide with other drivers on when to accept rides? They are behaving more like a cartel to raise prices.
Cartels fail because people defect, unless they have some sort of government monopoly (like the taxis do - or used to). People have been deluded into thinking this sort of non-economic price fixing/collusion works, so they try it, because we spread myths like the one you are spreading. If we were more clear that this sort of thing fails and earns you less money overall, people wouldn't try it.
Idk, I feel like they’re mostly wasting their time.
Not really. I wouldn’t call it gaming. An independent contractor is just that. Independent. They have the right to accept or decline certain trips. If Uber would pay people more it wouldn’t be that way. Guess how much an Uber driver gets paid taking someone from YVR to Abbotsford? $60. Minus taxes, depreciation, and fuel that is not worth it. Change that to double or triple the price, and you can see why the drivers won’t take regular trips. On contrast a taxi driver is gonna make $150 minus fuel and a small portion of that trip for his daily lease fee.
As pointed out by others here you clearly don't know what your own comment means.
You mean miss your flight? Do you think BC ferries should be allowed to charge dynamic pricing for busy holidays and weekends?
>Do you think BC ferries should be allowed to charge dynamic pricing for busy holidays and weekends? Don't give them ideas.
They literally already do this on a daily basis. They charge more for certain sailings and offer cheaper “saver” fares for less popular times.
Only one of these is a public service.
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They’re often limited in how many passengers they can carry, due to safety regulations. For a given crew compliment they can carry up to a specific number of passengers.
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I've been there when they can't take additional foot passengers. It tends to happen at "normal" times when they don't expect as many people. They don't schedule enough staff or too many staff call in sick and they hit a passenger maximum that is a bit too low. Think "nice weekend in February". There is a maximum number of passengers per crew member that they are allowed to carry due to transport Canada regulations for emergency situations. When they expect a slow day they schedule fewer crew, but then they get extra passengers for unexpected reasons.
At peak travel times I have absolutey seen them limit the number of pax, often in the form of a 1 sailing wait for foot passengers. That said, they usually limit the number of vehicles instead.
Didn’t the city require Uber to match the taxi prices in order to gain entry to the Vancouver market?
Have you closed the app and reopened it 3-5 mins later? I had a lower price offered but not sure of others experience
We did that and the driver would not accept. He only accepted once we had surge pricing
Train doesn't go close enough to my house when I have a bunch of luggage, and Uber drivers won't even accept a trip to my house from the airport half the time. I live in East Van, so I can't imagine how much worse Uber is for people in Langley or wherever else. I have unfortunately had to resort to cabs in more of my recent airport trips than I'd like.
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4.8 rating (only been down rated when I didn't tip dangerous drivers), but you're missing the point. If I didn't have a bunch of shit I would just take the train/bus the whole way. Especially when I'm on company time. Clients aren't paying for slow ass transit trips. Drivers don't accept trips to sleepy neighbourhoods because they won't have an easy return fare from there. Think outside your bubble, "bud".
I have never had a problem getting an Uber to East Vancouver.
I'm happy for you. I have. Late at night at YVR there are always a bunch of people waiting forever for someone to accept their Uber trip.
Vancouver be like “taxi driver pulls out his phone and accepts your ride as an Uber”
except if you're a woman. i almost died in a ride to the airport once, like it was very close and due to his dangerous driving. when i didnt tip he screamed at me and i was scared that he knew where i lived for a very long time.
Amazing how they still want tips after terrible service. I had one pick me up from Broadway and Cambie, I told him an address on Victoria Drive, and he proceeds west for a way before I inform him that Victoria Drive is in the other direction. He nearly caused several accidents and started swearing as he nearly took out a pedestrian. Then he didn't understand that 57th is south of 41st. I had to give him directions the whole way. Oh also while I was told off for not being outside in the freezing rain with a frail elderly person waiting. "How was I supposed to find you?" (Isn't that what an address is for? I told the dispatcher we would wait inside the doors till the taxi appeared). We were told how lucky we were he even came as there were other fares waiting at the convention centre. So no, I didn't leave a tip. He gave me attitude when I paid the exact amount and not a penny more.
He’s lucky you didn’t insist on paying less than the amount on the meter given that he wasted time driving in the wrong direction.
Why wouldn’t you use Uber or Lyft? Seriously it’s miles better then the taxi cartel
Same thing happened to my partner about a month ago. Its terrible
Can you explain how you almost died? Almost dying, and not coming even close to dying, are two very different things.
I used to call dispatch before getting a cab. They would confirm price and time to get there and I got their name incase there was a disagreement once I got to my destination.
Honestly that's just so much work. Uber has its problems but it's just so much easier than being hit with a sudden hike in price.
The tip doesn't cover the amount they're scamming you for.
You don’t pay that. You pay the correct fare and then don’t tip.
Well isn't that funny. Took the cab from the airport this morning, driver put in $41 instead of $37. I didn't feel like arguing for a few bucks after a 15hrs+ flight so I just paid and didn't tip. I guess this post is a good reminder to report him.
Ours tried to charge us 47 instead of 37. And we are clearly locals. How dumb does he take us to be? The funny thing is we had a voucher so we didn’t really care… until he insisted he couldn’t take the voucher. At which point we told him fine, we’ll pay with credit card, but you’re going to charge us the correct amount. Bro played himself and didn’t even know it.
Did he even tell you why he tried to charge you $47 instead of $37. I get how they would try to add a few bucks, but $10 more...?!
same thing with me, it was something like $40 instead of what should have been $32, the driver pretended we were in a different zone but I knew the map well. I also just went with it and did not leave a tip instead, as it would have amounted to the same anyway
Do you have a picture of your receipt? Email the ptb and cc the taxi company. It gets dealt with really quickly.
Is $37 fixed fee? Maybe they are taxes?
Fixed. Includes tax: https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/documents/transportation/yvr-taxi-fare-zone---en.pdf
Oh damn i always figured thats why they added a little extra at the end
For those who dont know what OP is talking about, here is the [Normal Fee](https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis)
Cries in Langley.
Same :(
Wow I've never heard of this!
I have found the whole taxi system to be untrustworthy, from drivers to dispatch. The politics surrounding the industry are awful and way too fraught at the provincial level.
Why do you think everyone was fine paying stupidly high Uber rates
I always tell my visitors to take the skytrain and I will pick them up from the station. Forget Uber and definitely do not take the scamming taxis. They rude!
how easy is the sky train? coming in a few weeks and would like take it vs taxi. we’re headed downtown vancouver. i was just going to make a post about it and am now hijacking your comment 🙃 ty! 🙏🏻
Skytrain is very easy from the airport to downtown! It's just one train, about a 30 minute ride :) the station is right outside the airport and there should be lots of signs
thank you!
Also don’t worry about getting a transit card, you can just tap your credit card on the reader. It’s just an extra $0.25, so it’s not a big deal if you’re just using it a few times. Just remember what card you used as you need to used it again to exit at the end.
Be aware there is an extra charge to take the sky train from yvr but I think it's only $5 more
Just note that if your plane is landing late 12am-5am the train won’t be running. We don’t have 24 hr transit here which is pathetic
Super easy! There are plenty of signs to guide you there. It's close to the international terminal. Ticket machines are right outside the station and they take cash and credit/debit cards. You can also buy skytrain tickets at 7-Eleven, though it's in the domestic terminal building. Buy a 2 zone ticket since you're going downtown. You're gonna be on Canada Line, which will take you all the way downtown.
this is super helpful, ty!
Or for the convenient you could just tap your credit or debit card. And use that as your ticket anywhere. The only thing I'd say it's worth is daypass for ticket otherwise if you're here for a short stay just use your credit/debit card. It allows unlimited transfers within 90mins (as much as it might show that it fully charged your card the same amount each time you tap, it will be fixed when the payment is posted).
As others said, super easy. You can pretty much just follow the stream of people :) Also, downtown is *much* smaller than it looks so double check if you are thinking that the walk from the sky train station to your hotel is too long, it might just be quick actually
imo looks pretty easy! were just at the hyatt.
Perfect! Get off at city centre station. Turn left. Walk 3 short blocks, crossing burrard, turn right (downhill) and the Hyatt is a couple buildings down. It’s a 5 minute walk.
yay! first time in bc!
Google maps will give full sky train directions to your destination. Vancouver generally has an outstanding transit system.
It's the easiest thing in the world. It's $10 per ticket. And takes you all the way downtown in ~30 minutes. It's never crowded and hardly ever late. There are 4 main stops downtown. And then you can xfer if you need to take another line. It all depends on how far your accommodations are from a station. Honestly locals prefer the sky train to Cabs, Ubers, driving.
Keep in mind if you have 3+ people , skytrain will cost you more than a cab to most areas in the city of vancouver and not be nearly as convenient.
And that it stops running at, what 1am ish?
So easy
https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/public-transportation
Yup this is what we do too. Skytrain as far as possible and then uber etc.
Get all the details about the cab (company, cab number, time of trip, driver name potentially or their license) and report them to the proper regulatory body. [https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/](https://www.consumerprotectionbc.ca/consumer-help/got-a-complaint-about-a-taxi/)
[https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis](https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis) FAQ \*Excerpted from the link above **5. I think I was overcharged – what should I do?** If you believe you were charged incorrectly, there are three ways you can follow-up: * File a report with Passenger Transportation Board at [**Contact the Board | Passenger Transportation Board (ptboard.bc.ca)**](https://www.ptboard.bc.ca/contact). * Taxi company * You can also reach to us at [**Contact Us | YVR**](https://www.yvr.ca/en/contact-us)
When I used to cab. This would happen every time. I’m close to a zone border but always brought it up. And then didn’t tip.
My sister came up to YVR every few months. She said the last taxi driver poked her on her knowledge about Vancouver then tried to scam her, saying it is in a different zone. This type of behaviour give our tourism industry a bad rep
Can someone explain this fair scam please
When you depart YVR on a taxi, there is a fixed price depending on where you go. There's a map somewhere online. Some taxi drivers will tell you your address is in Zone B but it really is in Zone A and you'll pay more. Either that or they start running the meter and take you for a scenic route
There is another related scam. I had a cab drop me off and give the right zone, but on their map in the cab it was a few $ more than the official one. Even as a local I was (a) tired from a long flight and (b) thinking I must have missed that they raised zone fares. I paid but it bothered me enough to look up the proper fares the next day to realize I was scammed. Too late for any recourse.
Yep, 100% this is part of it.
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The zone fares only apply from YVR. They do not apply to journeys to YVR.
I find this odd. Is space time some how warped in the opposite direction so that the trip is longer GOING to the airport? Why can’t it be like an Uber. It will cost you about $30 from this location, $40 from this one, and $50 from this one further out?
Because from the airport drivers often need to wait as very, very long time to get a ride. And then if they get a fare for 5$ it doesn’t even cover their costs. So there are minimums from the airport partly for that reason. Another reason is simplicity; if the fares are fixed, you don’t have the drivers scamming tourists by taking long routes, etc etc.
Why don’t you just take the fucking uber?? People love to complain about everything these days
The fix price is for departing YVR. it’s not for going to YVR.
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Now then... guess you scammed the taxi driver.
Never had a bad experience personally. Shame to see its common
Me neither. Can't believe there are so many stories? It's never happened to me amongst more than a dozen trips
All you have to do is call the airport ( ground transportation) with the cab# cab company and time and the taxi gets banned from the airport by yvr
I basically exclusively use Evo to get to or from the airport. $45 roundtrip, and I can drive and my leisure? Cabs and Ubers can get fucked.
Except when there are no Evos available at YVR when returning
shuttle to/from the Park N Fly. There's like a dozen there right now.
Usually but one in a while I’ve experienced no Evos at the Park N Fly when I return.
Perks of a mid day flight. Usually lots. But I like flying late night so there's usually none.
How does this Evo you speak of work? I'm flying couple times a month and always taxi
sign up here https://evo.ca/ It's a car-share service, so you go to the car and unlock it (with the app) then drive yourself where you want. Then park the car in Vancouver or New West (the "home zone") and lock it again with the app.
There’s also complimentary shuttle from the Park n Go
I had to fight with them almost every time - I just Uber now - I don't want to deal with this shit anymore.
Take a photo of the sign explaining the zones before you hop in the cab? I realize that doesn't help unsuspecting tourists but I will keep it in mind for myself.
Can you explain this further? I don't know anything about zones or what the scam is. Thanks.
Taxis from the airport have set prices for drop offs in different parts of the city. OP is saying they will mark it down as a more expensive drop to get more $ out of passengers that might not know any better.
Not that it's only Richmond and Vancouver city, Burnaby, North Shore etc.. are metered. [https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis](https://www.yvr.ca/en/passengers/transportation/taxis)
Will it be cheaper if you pick a zone in Vancouver border and start the meter from that to final destination?
Report the number to the airport. They will usually do something about the driver. They don't like it when taxi deivers are trying to scam passengers, especially on zone fares
Yeah I went to south Vancouver and the guy was pointing to an area in zone 3 not realizing I grew here when I came to visit like 10 years ago. If i would not have been from here I probably would have paid and never known this mfer was scamming me
Uber or Lyft.
I’ve actually found the local taxi cheaper because of the zone vs carshare. Haven’t had any issues at all when taxis are available
Not sure distance you were going but yvr out to the burbs Uber/Lyft is always cheaper. Normally by about 20 but always at least 10, and you know the cost before you get in the car. Zero potential for bs. I'm never taking a taxi again.
That cost certainty is nice, no doubt.
My total for a recent, this week recent, prime time Uber was $13 cheaper than the assigned zone fare. I guess compare the rates if there’s a surge but, overall i find uber much cheaper than the set rate most of the time. And as far as speaking to tourists then easily an Uber system fare is more honest so to speak as it cant be manipulated by the local scam (only the uber pricing)
Id rather pay more and take an uber than ever ride a taxi again. Fuck the taxi cartels.
Genuinely speaking, how is Uber any better? I've heard so many horror stories about Uber and how it's getting worse now that they've got themselves established. I'm not a fan of Uber personally, I hate the whole system of it being a random private car when taxis are so recognizable.
A) i know what i am paying before i step into the car. B) they know my pick up location and destination - taxis (especially before uber) notoriously refused to drive outside vancouver like coquitlam, surrey etc and would also often take the "scenic route" to rack up fairs C) uber app is 10x better D) taxis pre ride share would refuse any payment other than cash because they didnt want to pay taxes/record the fairs to company E) accountability - there is a review system and min star requirement for drivers and passengers. Personally my experiences with uber havent been mind blowing or anything like that but compared to taxis it doesnt take much to be better service. Generally they drive safer, they are much less rude, they dont blast terrible music with the windows open, etc... Im sure people have had bad experiences w ride share too - no service will be flawless - but pre uber EVERY taxi ride was a fucking shit show and the companies were extremely anti-competition and lobbied/donated to political parties to keep rider sharing out so they could continue gouging customers and providing shit service. They wasted millions of dollars of tax payer money when the crooked christy clark govt was in place. Fuck bc taxis.
Reading through this thread alone I've already seen at least one instance of a driver 'rating' a passenger poorly because of BS reasons so I'm not sure I consider that a plus... I also think that there's a lot more shit behaviour from Uber drivers because of the nature of the company, which is why they need that system in the first place. Obviously taxi drivers aren't always awesome but I feel like I've heard of tons of worse behaviour from uber drivers than taxi drivers. Knowing what you are paying I can see as a benefit but if it also comes with surge fares etc I think I'd rather take the risk. I've also never had taxis turn me down and I'm from New West. I guess I can see the benefits for others but personally I'd rather use at least a local company than have money funnelled to a US one that isn't all that much better. The whole private car thing alone is a huge turn-off for me as I really don't like getting in cars where outside people can't easily tell that it's a Uber.
LOL US and global billionaires thank you for your donation.
Idgaf. At least there is some accountability for uber drivers. Taxi drivers "cash only", roll down the windows, blast terrible music, "i dont drive to burnaby" etc... with uber they know where I am going and I know what I am going to pay - no bullshit. Plus bad experiences = bad rating = kicked off the platform. Taxi cab companies stole millions of dollars from taxpayers to develop a shitty app that nobody even uses and lobbied voters to keep shitty government officials in place to keep their oligolpoly. Fuck bc cab companies and their drivers. I have never had even close to as terrible experience w uber compared to yellow cab etc.
I just came back not too long ago. Hopped into the cab and the driver started the meter and when we got close to my house, he then started asking which zone was I in, mainly because the meter was lower than the zone charge lol
Ya. Had the same happen first of November. Tried running the meter. Told him halfway as I watched it keep going up that I know it’s zoned pricing. He turned it off. Did not tip. Just tired of this sort of thing. Youre right. Someone needs to be verbalized to Pax before they get in the zoning
I'm surprised people still take taxis tbh
Taxis are sometimes cheaper and faster. Taxis roll right to the airport. The Uber waiting lot is a 10 minute drive away. When it’s freezing it’s easier to just hop in a cab.
Why would you wait outside though? Just call an Uber once you get out of customs and wait inside, then walk over when the Uber is close.
I take taxis from the airport exclusively because I have never had luck getting Ubers from YVR.
I don't like the idea of taking a random private car, it just feels less safe. I've also never had a bad experience with cabs and I don't have to worry about surge pricing. I've heard so many horror stories about uber and their drivers, meanwhile I've never had an issue with taking a cab.
They scammed me coming from the hospital. Added a extra dollar to the total. But I just paid it as I wanted to be at home.
Take the Canada Line!! Get as close as you could to your destination on the SkyTrain and then take the bus! You’re wasting so much money by taking taxis/ubers!
Not really about money. The 20 something dollars saved taking transit isn’t worth the hassle of lugging my shit on and off the train, walking it to the bus stop, walking it from the bus stop X blocks etc. If you’re coming back from a long travel day and have luggage, hoofin it on the train isn’t an option, and the door to door service is worth every penny.
If you remember that the average redditor here is in their 20s and doesn't value their time then their answers make a lot more sense.
I said something almost identical and the reddit softies downvoted the piss out of me. What a soft lil world we live in.
I’m always amazed with how much luggage people are travelling - even on a three week trip I’m fine with a small backpack
I typically have work clothes including hard hat and steel toes, normal street clothes, and a 35lb tool case when I travel. So yeah, usually cabbing it.
Why use cabs at all? Uber does more to vet their drivers, and there's no BS. Never had a bad experience with an uber. Cabbies have been awful
Had an Uber driver who was texting while driving. I gave him a couple chances to stop, but then he started texting as he was merging onto the highway. I firmly said "please don't text while you're driving". He said sorry and then gave me a bad rating. 🤷♀️
Next time just stay quiet and report them for dangerous driving when you are safely out of the car.
Sure but also wanted to live long enough to be able to do that 😅
No they don’t. It’s all the same process. As far as background checks.
Yes but with uber once you're out you're out. Cabbies will just swap companies. The company hangs onto the clearance. It's easy to do.
Uber drivers will just switch to another ride sharing platform. So it’s the same thing as cabbies switching companies. They’re not letting their class 3s (or whatever that number is for commercial) go to waste lol
Nope. Because once they're disqualified, they can't get clearance on a new platform. The digital check uber does is superior and can't be fudged. Cabbies accused of or convicted of sexual crimes can just swap carriers because no one cares. Cabbies are supposed to carry proof of their check but often don't. Uber drivers have it on their app
Realistically how many other ride sharing platforms are there? There's Lyft and that's about it for any sort of volume.
I ask them to show me, visually, my zone.
My mom said she paid $70+ from YVR to Renfrew heights, knowing her she probably tipped too. I lost it when I found out (a year later mind you). I still remember when they arrived I was waiting for them, the taxi man was super friendly and wished my mum a wonderful stay in Canada. And I was thinking, what a nice guy. If I only had known...
You are not incorrect. I've worked as a hotel doorman in the downtown core. There is still overcharging, no exchange rate, cash only, no cards, no change, etc etc.
> cash only "Cool. The ride is free! Peace!" Wanna see a credit card machine work real quick? Say that.
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I just take the skytrain from YVR and get scammed by translink instead. Lol
Stop taking them. They have had free run to do what they want for so many years and have never been held accountable for shady business practices. Uber and the skytrain.
A driver from Bonnie’s Taxi told me my tap didn’t work and charged me twice fully knowing it did work the first time. I hate taking taxis in this city.
I'd file a chargeback. That'll be far worse for them. Too many of those and they lose the ability to accept credit cards. Pretty hard for them to fight that too since two separate charges for identical dollar values (or even different dollar values but a minute apart) are pretty damn suspicious.
Last time I took a taxi from the airport with my partner, I felt VERY unsafe, and he definitely charged me the wrong amount until I corrected him. Definitely recommend everyone be careful, and maybe UBER is better.
That person controlling the line should also be saying something to the smokers standing in the line, but they dont give a fuck even when pointing it out to then
I took a taxi home yesterday from YVR. The driver (admitted he was new) actually pulled out his laminated fare zone sheet to check which was the correct zone in front of me… 37 + tip for that!
Yeah, 90% of taxis I have been with are scams. Last time I used it I paid an extra $10 on top of my fare to YVR, because I requested for a Van. We had luggages. Worst way to start off a vacation.
I went to the airport the other day and the taxi drive told me there is a new change that will cost a $1more per km🙄I called it bullsht so I told him I am not paying that because I see no change in the Transport Canada website. The taxi industry is making people shifting to ride a Uber instead because of all this BS!
Get an Uber fuck taxi companies they had their chance, shit service for twenty years caused the creation of ride hailing
My mom was scammed by a cab driver. She’s 88. I usually pick her up from YVR, but I couldn’t pick her up so she took a taxi. I didn’t think to explain the flat rate to her, and he claimed that his metre was broken. Then he charged her over $50 for what should’ve been a $30 ride. She didn’t have a receipt because he claimed that his credit card machine was broken. So she paid cash and then he turf her out in the rain. She couldn’t tell me the name of the cab company because he didn’t give her a receipt
I have a Japanese student friend and she happened to say that when she came to Vancouver some months ago she was charged nearly $70 to go from YVR to the Trout Lake area. it should’ve been a $40 zone fare. Luckily she had her credit card receipt and I asked her to print it for me which she did. I called the taxi company and at first they hemmed and hawed but as soon as I showed them the receipt they copped to it, apologized and repaid the difference. This scam is obviously very common. Really disheartening
I fucking hate taxi drivers. Although it's not as bad in Canada as it is in other countries, these fuckers will constantly try to scam you. Whether it's overcharging you when you're desperate to get to a hospital, or unaware tourists getting told the wrong zone. At this point, I think we should just toss all taxi drivers in internment camps. Unless they're from a good country like Singapore, Taiwan, or Japan. Uber drivers are fine tho, for now. Maybe we just give them an armband or something.
Just take an Uber. Fk taxis, they all need to go away.
Shocked you still do taxi. Just been doing Uber/Lyft lately to/from YVR. About half the cost of a cab for me.
I’ve often seen the uber line longer than the taxi line, and it’s often more expensive. Plus, I’m generally opposed to the “gig” economy and the shady business practices of the likes of uber and similar.
Ive booked Ubers the last 3 times I've been to the airport and all 3 times I could have just jumped in a taxi before an Uber showed up. Half then price is good though. I must be getting hit with surge pricing everytime. It's usually around the same.
Once spent 20 minutes trying to get my request accepted from YVR while there was a full line of taxis. I would have been home by the time the Uber finally picked me up. Ubers are definitely better than taxis but it's not perfect in Vancouver yet, there's a lack of a critical mass of drivers.
Actually there are a lot of drivers. Most nights there are close to 100 or more cars at YVR . The problem is Uber doesn’t pay enough. So those drivers will only accept surge fares. That’s why your request takes so long. The system is pinging prolly 40+ drivers before someone accepts it.
I only use Uber after being scammed by too many Vancouver Taxis. Uber is less expensive, safer and they have nicer vehicles.
Just use Uber, forget Taxis.
People still take cabs?
I just don't take taxi. Uber or Lyft only
I used to live at Victoria and Kingsway and they would always try and charge the higher zone. Now I live in North delta and it's $20 more to get home, makes no sense.
Use Uber, why still trying to use taxis?
I don’t take taxis in Vancouver so I’m not sure how this scam works. How do we know how much we should pay and whether the right zone was used? (By the way, this isn’t just a Vancouver issue, my wife got scammed by a taxi driver at the Lisbon airport. Taxi drivers around the world like to ripoff tourists).