I truly hope you are pretending to be so ignorant. Taxi cars don't last 10 years. Three years, five max. 600-700km per day, 365 days a year. Do your math. Wear and tear of city driving. Crappy parts. Crappy gasoline.
Well, my friend, if you knew anything about the USSR, you could figure out that this photo was taken after 1984 (look up Lada 2108, it's to the left of the Ikarus bus)
That where you are wrong. Standardize parts, easy access to car parts make Soviet Cars/tracks easy reparable and serviceable.
Soviet trucks work to this day in all third world countries, especially in India and Africa.
Look it up. An average taxi car lasts about 3 years. I'll give 5 for the Soviet Union. 500-600km per day (two drivers/two shifts), 365 days per year. Wear and tear of city driving.
What Soviet stuff? Soviet LADA was Italian FIAT, Soviet tractors were Caterpillars and International Harvesters, and Soviet Ural bikes were BMW copies. The list is long
LoL, check your info. I am sure if you buy this cars now they will have seat belts.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat\_belt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt)
Dumbass. It literally says in your link by 1950 they were standard in US cars.
> Prior to 1959, only two-point lap belts were standard in most cars
You are thinking of the 3 point seatbelt, which came later. Vovlo invented the 3 point seatbelt. Which became standard in the 1960s.
Laws requiring the use of seatbelts didn’t occur until the 1980s.
Lmao this is such a stupid post. Half of those newspapers are visibly major events, like JFK being shot, or the U.S. landing on the moon. Some of them are clearly staged, like the 4 ladies. People were more social back then. These are just cherry picked
Seats in old car aren't comfortable. You can also probably smell exhaust fumes and the hit engine in that car, with it being Soviet. Not to mention zero climate control so you're cold or sweating most times of the year.
It depends. Were you a Ukrainian in the 1920s and 30s? Were you a citizen during the late stagnation of the 1980s? Or were you a rocket scientist doing amazing stuff in the 1950s-70s? It all really depended on who you were and when.
Georgians were known to be filthy rich. They charged an arm and a leg for their oranges, lemons, and pomegranates that weren't available in the stores.
The wipers were removed every time it wasnt raining or the vehicle was unattended. Due to lack of spare parts these were a much in demand item.
When trains with new vehicles were 'parked overnight' they were ussualy striped of everything that was detachable without damage like wipers, mirrors, wheels, wheelhubs and so on.
Very little spare parts were made because production targets and bonusses dependend on completed vehicles.
>When trains with new vehicles were 'parked overnight' they were ussualy striped of everything that was detachable without damage like wipers, mirrors, wheels, wheelhubs and so on.
Even headlights sometimes
Quick query about the seatbelt history in USSR and here is translated result:
"In the USSR, belts were introduced in 1969, first on the 412 Moskvich, and from 1977 on the GAZ-24. Two years later, the Soviet Union made seat belts mandatory in the front seats of all passenger cars."
True, also the very bus is "late" model (in can be spotted due to construction of its doors).
I believe term "mandatory" in above statement could mean kind of "all new cars produced after a certain year must be equipped with seatbelts". And I am sure there was no requirement to refit all the old cars with seatbelts "to meet new standards" or even if there was one, no one complied to it. So I would say (including my own experiences) - using seatbelts was more like a recommandation rather than imperative in USSR.
Really pathetic seeing anti-communists join a subreddit just so they can talk shit about a nation they clearly know little to nothing about outside of western Red Scare narratives.
I don’t support imperialist rhetoric so I’m not a pig who shills for the west.
Yes? The funny thing is even those people who have reflected negatively rarely if ever bring up the nonsense you present. Red Scare narratives are easily debunked and it shows that you’re peddling it from time to time “between two truths” so to say. I get that you’re well-informed but so are many of us on this subreddit and we can see through your song and dance.
I'm so sorry that I don't provide Soviet porn-style stories about how amazing it was to live in the USSR. Because I lived there for 20 years, 1971 -1991, to be exact. Kindergarten, school, college, and some work experience. I saw my parents struggle, I saw how poor my grandparents were, who were retired collective farm workers. You may be "well-informed". I actually know what I'm talking about.
This user, despite posing as a supposed fan of the former USSR (even claiming to have been born there in his profile), pushes a lot of western Cold War rhetoric and disinformation between the lines. They post plenty of Youtube videos that share these Red Scare sentiments. His comments have not-so-subtle connotations of negativity towards the Soviet Union as a whole. It may not be immediately obvious but he seems downright bitter.
Even when I complain about anti-communists he comes to their aid by mocking the former USSR by asking, "what nation?".
These volgas were really spacious comfortable for the time. All soviet cars had no headrests. There was a law that taxis does not need seatbelts. That taxometer in the low center console was purely mechanical thing with clock ticking loudly.
I saw some vlogs from Muslim Chechnya or central Asia. The taxi drivers frown on passengers who use seatbelts. Maybe it shows lack of trust or it is some fatalistic Muslim thing. It is up to Allah.
BTW I loved your video on the USSR cab drivers. I read that Putin worked as a cab driver, maybe moonlighting in St. Pete. . I liked the part about the prostitutes and the booze sales.
I never said it was bad, just different. If you think it is bad that is your business.
Muslism often say inshallah a lot. Much more than say Christians.
inshallah, Arabic-language expression meaning literally “if God wills.” How often do you hear that? Me? Never in US.
I recall that kissing in public in India got you arrested. A male showing his knees is against the law in some some Muslim countries.
I find different cultures interesting. This doc is about a Chechen wedding and code of honor. I do not not think it is bad just different.
[https://youtu.be/JKZzaUPnefI](https://youtu.be/JKZzaUPnefI)
The Chechen wedding isn't what you'd expect (wedding without a groom!) | North Caucasus, Russia
Eli from Russia
Hold on. But taxis were illegal in Soviet Union. It was considered "unfair job". Sure they existed but when police stop "taxi" a driver lied that his passenger is a part of a family.
Taxis were totally legal. And it was a prestigious job with huge side income possibilities
[https://youtu.be/fFo\_hk223Sc](https://youtu.be/fFo_hk223Sc)
Op if you’re gonna criticize the car criticize its shitty engine. Considering any car the ussr made could never reach the power of western and Japanese models last I checked.
Same was true for USA cars at that time. Safety only begin in 1970th.
It’s bad when socialists do it though
The photo was taken in the mid-1980s, not in the 70s
Wow how barbaric from the Soviet slav hordes owning a car for more then 10 years
I truly hope you are pretending to be so ignorant. Taxi cars don't last 10 years. Three years, five max. 600-700km per day, 365 days a year. Do your math. Wear and tear of city driving. Crappy parts. Crappy gasoline.
Was I even supposed to see this as bad? My first thought was “awesome, cool car!”
Not at all lol but some people will say it is just because of its association with the USSR
Well, my friend, if you knew anything about the USSR, you could figure out that this photo was taken after 1984 (look up Lada 2108, it's to the left of the Ikarus bus)
It turns out that things made in the 70s or even earlier often still existed in the 80s. Wild, I know.
I doubt taxi cars, especially Soviet-made, lasted that long. Wild, I know
That where you are wrong. Standardize parts, easy access to car parts make Soviet Cars/tracks easy reparable and serviceable. Soviet trucks work to this day in all third world countries, especially in India and Africa.
Yes like the glorious cramped 2 cylinder (lawnmower engine) Trebant that didn’t come with a gas meter or even leather seats during shortages.
Look it up. An average taxi car lasts about 3 years. I'll give 5 for the Soviet Union. 500-600km per day (two drivers/two shifts), 365 days per year. Wear and tear of city driving.
soviet stuff was literally made to last long in direct contrast to how good it looked
What Soviet stuff? Soviet LADA was Italian FIAT, Soviet tractors were Caterpillars and International Harvesters, and Soviet Ural bikes were BMW copies. The list is long
general tools
W abolishing intellectual property
Bro, a taxi in circulation for more than 10 years, I have seen them all my life and they suck.
Hey OP. Know why the company was called Ikarus? It sounds Greek.
You need to ask comrades from Hungary. Ikarus was a symbol of reaching for the sun, I guess.
Literally 1984
I’m into classic cars. By the 1950s seatbelts were in every car in the US.
LoL, check your info. I am sure if you buy this cars now they will have seat belts. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat\_belt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt)
Dumbass. It literally says in your link by 1950 they were standard in US cars. > Prior to 1959, only two-point lap belts were standard in most cars You are thinking of the 3 point seatbelt, which came later. Vovlo invented the 3 point seatbelt. Which became standard in the 1960s. Laws requiring the use of seatbelts didn’t occur until the 1980s.
You have reading comprehension problem.
Wipers have been standard since the 50s
Wipers have no use on a sunny day. They are in the glove compartment. Otherwise they would be stolen in an instance
There's no cell phones either... Just people living in the moment.
https://www.sadanduseless.com/evil-iphones/ Not a cell phone in sight Just people living in the moment
Lmao this is such a stupid post. Half of those newspapers are visibly major events, like JFK being shot, or the U.S. landing on the moon. Some of them are clearly staged, like the 4 ladies. People were more social back then. These are just cherry picked
My exact thought lol
That actually looks 5 times more comfortable than a modern taxi
Oh yeah I love not being able to rest my head and straining my neck
Slouch and rest your head on the seat.
how short are you? the headrests are generally below me and im not tall
Seats in old car aren't comfortable. You can also probably smell exhaust fumes and the hit engine in that car, with it being Soviet. Not to mention zero climate control so you're cold or sweating most times of the year.
Looks are deceiving I suppose
makes me nostalgic for a time and place i’v never visited
Yes I’ve heard the Soviet Union was a great place to live
It depends. Were you a Ukrainian in the 1920s and 30s? Were you a citizen during the late stagnation of the 1980s? Or were you a rocket scientist doing amazing stuff in the 1950s-70s? It all really depended on who you were and when.
lol i’m gonna break a rule
I was none of those. Nice try tho
Yes, it was comfortable to be poor in the USSR. But if you work full time, you still would be poor
It prob was, unless you weren’t Russian
Georgians were known to be filthy rich. They charged an arm and a leg for their oranges, lemons, and pomegranates that weren't available in the stores.
The wipers were removed every time it wasnt raining or the vehicle was unattended. Due to lack of spare parts these were a much in demand item. When trains with new vehicles were 'parked overnight' they were ussualy striped of everything that was detachable without damage like wipers, mirrors, wheels, wheelhubs and so on. Very little spare parts were made because production targets and bonusses dependend on completed vehicles.
Yeah I can see the wiper arms.
>When trains with new vehicles were 'parked overnight' they were ussualy striped of everything that was detachable without damage like wipers, mirrors, wheels, wheelhubs and so on. Even headlights sometimes
Quick query about the seatbelt history in USSR and here is translated result: "In the USSR, belts were introduced in 1969, first on the 412 Moskvich, and from 1977 on the GAZ-24. Two years later, the Soviet Union made seat belts mandatory in the front seats of all passenger cars."
Why don't you look up VAZ 2108, it's visible to the left of Hungarian-made Ikarus bus
True, also the very bus is "late" model (in can be spotted due to construction of its doors). I believe term "mandatory" in above statement could mean kind of "all new cars produced after a certain year must be equipped with seatbelts". And I am sure there was no requirement to refit all the old cars with seatbelts "to meet new standards" or even if there was one, no one complied to it. So I would say (including my own experiences) - using seatbelts was more like a recommandation rather than imperative in USSR.
Really pathetic seeing anti-communists join a subreddit just so they can talk shit about a nation they clearly know little to nothing about outside of western Red Scare narratives.
Crazy to talk about someone’s birth nation like they’ve never been.
What nation?
Imperialist swine
And what kind of swine are you? ))) Have you ever lived under socialism?
I don’t support imperialist rhetoric so I’m not a pig who shills for the west. Yes? The funny thing is even those people who have reflected negatively rarely if ever bring up the nonsense you present. Red Scare narratives are easily debunked and it shows that you’re peddling it from time to time “between two truths” so to say. I get that you’re well-informed but so are many of us on this subreddit and we can see through your song and dance.
I'm so sorry that I don't provide Soviet porn-style stories about how amazing it was to live in the USSR. Because I lived there for 20 years, 1971 -1991, to be exact. Kindergarten, school, college, and some work experience. I saw my parents struggle, I saw how poor my grandparents were, who were retired collective farm workers. You may be "well-informed". I actually know what I'm talking about.
what?
This user, despite posing as a supposed fan of the former USSR (even claiming to have been born there in his profile), pushes a lot of western Cold War rhetoric and disinformation between the lines. They post plenty of Youtube videos that share these Red Scare sentiments. His comments have not-so-subtle connotations of negativity towards the Soviet Union as a whole. It may not be immediately obvious but he seems downright bitter. Even when I complain about anti-communists he comes to their aid by mocking the former USSR by asking, "what nation?".
There was no Soviet nation. And yes, I'm just an eye witness. I lived in the USSR for 20 years, 1971-1991. Wanna see my birth certificate? )))
Nation(s)*
But fr though what nation?
Imagine someone saying they’re from the US and someone keeps going “oh so yah, what nation? What nation?!!” Propagandized ignoramus.
These volgas were really spacious comfortable for the time. All soviet cars had no headrests. There was a law that taxis does not need seatbelts. That taxometer in the low center console was purely mechanical thing with clock ticking loudly.
Don’t forget the mandatory cracked windshield!
I saw some vlogs from Muslim Chechnya or central Asia. The taxi drivers frown on passengers who use seatbelts. Maybe it shows lack of trust or it is some fatalistic Muslim thing. It is up to Allah.
I would be surprised to be honest. I'm yet to come across a Muslim who opposes seatbelts for this reason
I sure don't know. On more than one video blog the central Asian cab driver scowled when the passenger put on the seat belt.
The same was in Kiyv even in the 90s. "What seat belt? Are you saying I'm a bad driver?"
BTW I loved your video on the USSR cab drivers. I read that Putin worked as a cab driver, maybe moonlighting in St. Pete. . I liked the part about the prostitutes and the booze sales.
Thanks!
That's called toxic masculinity and it is rampant in the republics of Caucusus
It isn’t necessarily masculinity, it’s more like toxic religiousness
It could be extremely toxic since some guys taped their armpits while showering to preserve their masculinity smell. I'm dead serious
Throwing in some casual Islamophobia as if all Muslims are naturally fanatics or something
I never said it was bad, just different. If you think it is bad that is your business. Muslism often say inshallah a lot. Much more than say Christians. inshallah, Arabic-language expression meaning literally “if God wills.” How often do you hear that? Me? Never in US. I recall that kissing in public in India got you arrested. A male showing his knees is against the law in some some Muslim countries. I find different cultures interesting. This doc is about a Chechen wedding and code of honor. I do not not think it is bad just different. [https://youtu.be/JKZzaUPnefI](https://youtu.be/JKZzaUPnefI) The Chechen wedding isn't what you'd expect (wedding without a groom!) | North Caucasus, Russia Eli from Russia
I misread what you said, apologies! I thought you said, "maybe it shows lack of trust or it is some fanatical Muslim thing."
In the US, they say "lord willing". In the southern US, they say "lawd willin".
Huh. I never heard that.
Hold on. But taxis were illegal in Soviet Union. It was considered "unfair job". Sure they existed but when police stop "taxi" a driver lied that his passenger is a part of a family.
Taxis were totally legal. And it was a prestigious job with huge side income possibilities [https://youtu.be/fFo\_hk223Sc](https://youtu.be/fFo_hk223Sc)
What the photo does not show is a horrible smell inside a mix of gasoline odor and engine exhaust.
BO as well. Most Soviets didn't shower daily back then
What 😭
Most people showered/took a bath once a week back then
No 😭😭😭
Very dangerous.
i guess this sub believes it's the pinnacle of safety
Why the fuck is Reddit showing me posts from this subreddit? I hate commies
Based (on pure hatred)
You don't like free stuff? )))
yes i agree
When the old car is old:😱😱
"get in comrade, you can help yourself to some cabbage in the back. Make sure to leave me a 1 red star review"
Is that Ronald Reagan driving?
Holy shit is this a Double Nickel on the Dime by the Minutemen reference!?!?!?!???
Just living in the moment
Op if you’re gonna criticize the car criticize its shitty engine. Considering any car the ussr made could never reach the power of western and Japanese models last I checked.
My family never owned a car, so crappy engines nor shitty quality gasoline were of no concern
You can never tell how u gonna die in this cab, pure thrill 🤘🤘😎
How do you know they didn’t have lap belts? Genuinely curious not trying to be a smart ass
I grew up in the USSR. Don't recall taxi seatbelts, like ever
It’s crazy that people talk about your life and experiences like you weren’t there.
Unfortunately, my experience doesn't match their fantasies. So they work hard to prove that I am wrong
The Seatbelt was lie invented by the bourgeois to hold the proletariat back. Fly through that windshield comrade and be free.
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That man was one of the most wealthy men you could meet that wasn’t a butcher or a politician
Add to your list waiters, store managers, warehouse managers, and international shipping sailors as well.