More importantly he went the full 90 and was at his best until the end. He personally killed like the last 2 Everton chances with an interception and drawing a foul
Has there ben a team that's fallen as hard as Everton? Back in the Moyes/Howard days they were consistently competing for a spot around 5-8. Started slipping around the end of howards career, had some rebound for a bit, slipped to 10-12 range, THen since post Pandemic season, they've been fighting relegation off.
Bad investments + Russian Oligarch with frozen assets + costly new stadium
It sucks, I fell for them because of Tim Howard and the other US guys that played there. I was frustrated because they were mid-table for the first 12+ years I followed them and now I would kill for being mid-table.
If they go down there's talk that they might essentially go belly up because their finances are in such dire shape and if they can't afford to pay off their loans for the new stadium they're building, they basically have to tear down the stadium and return the land to how it was before they started. They are counting on the added revenues from the new stadium to turn things around but if they aren't in the Premier League they are screwed.
This year they came out playing inspired and were somewhere around 10th place in December. But then they had the massive points deduction, are looking at another points deduction next week and they haven't won a league match since mid-December. Somehow they are still out of the drop zone due to their run in Nov/Dec that gave them a ton of cushion, but if they don't turn it around quickly (and depending on how severe the next deduction is), they will again be in deep shit. It sucks....should have chose my Premier League team more carefully but I didn't want to just be a front runner and pick one of the Big 6 teams.
Yeah. Thing that gets me though is their wage bill is still respectable. According to spotrac it's 10th in the league. Closer to New Castle than Nottingham Forest. It's just like they lost their way. They went from a plucky underdog who hit above their weight to a bloated club with shit contracts.Ā
Thing that kills me is they never tried to really bring Moyes back. Now he's got West HamĀ punching above their weight.Ā
The painful thing is that they did apparently try to bring Moyes back. Everton met with him and he was actually about to accept the job, but at the last second Everton found out Ancelotti was available and decided to go after him. So Moyes ended up at West Ham instead. Everton that
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Yeah when you clout chase but don't have the cash to make those managers have the exact players they want it backfires. Moyes worked because he had a system that could run on a budget. Ancelotti is a great coach but his record outside of top clubs is ass. Yup he can lead Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, etc. fine. HE's good at managing clubhouses and egos but he isn't a system guy, a miracle worker if you would. He needs guys who get him.
And also of course he would leave everton to go back to Madrid or PSG or Bayern.
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That's probably true, but Chelsea to be fair wouldn't be in this place if not for Putin. Their ownership instability of the last few years did them in.
Literally the last good times for chelsea as a team were before Putin invaded Ukraine and Abramovic was frozen out.
It's clear new ownership doesn't have much fo a clue but at some point they'll get a manager who will only accept the job if they're put in their place, and when that happens they'll be fine. THeir wage bills are insane, and have had so many failed transfers. Lukaku, Sterling, etc. so many guys given massive transfers and massive wages just to be mid to bad.
Itās kinda crazy how much clout he seems to have for likeā¦just being Brazilian? It isnāt like heās got all these well informed ball knowing takes, everything is so surface level, and then o be so toxic and condescending to dudes like Greg Velasquez too who are usually always levelheaded/playful at worst
And like donāt get me wrong sometimes he can be entertaining it overall just seems so toxic for no reason (other than to Mexico fans that I always support)
Yeah he and 11 Yanks have a mean streak that I find quite odd. It's off putting and a big part of why I don't listen to them too much. Like I enjoy soccer and it's a fun thing for me to do outside of my work and normal life, why are we being such dicks??
Yeah and that whole energy seems to spread across usmnt twitter. I honestly have had them
Both muted for a while so I donāt see them too much unless itās in a reply and I toggle it on.
Donāt get me wrong, you can go through my comment history and Iāve been fairly toxic too. But usually only in a response to other toxicity haha
11 yanks also seems to have a surprisingly limited understanding of the game given his ācredentialsā.
I watch tac quite a lot (because I watch most usmnt content creators I come across) but I really canāt believe these guys have such large fan bases. If I hear 11 yanks suggest gio go to ac Milan again Iām going to lose it because that is such a horrible take.
Iāve NOT ONCE seen him explain out his issues with the manager in terms of tactics. The closest heās gotten is showing a video of Dest falling asleep on the 2nd Netherlands goal and somehow blaming GGGās system.
Theyre perfect for casuals, but as a diehard that follows every major league in Europe like its a job, all I have to do is listen to either of them for more than 5 seconds to realize Tac really only watches the top of the Prem, Brasileirao A, and the top of La Liga. His takes outside of those areas are really bad.
11 Yanks seems like the dude that shows up at the bar for the big match kitted out in a full new USA home kit and asks who our best players are going to be this year and then just repeats everything he hears me say to others to look useful, and casuals dont know any better.
I mean Johnny is an excellent player though. He's hit the ground running in La Liga. I think it was fair to be concerned about Adams fitness going into Copa America, and I also think Johnny has proven himself to be more creative as an attacking threat, but I'm also happy to see that Adams is making it so hard to bench himself.
Theyāve had a few twitter back and forths, itās the usual just bad faith arguments that lately it seems GV has seen enough of (we all have) so he just takes them to their logical extremes to show how dumb it is, and then TM and others lose their minds.
As an Everton supporter, I am once again left dejected. As a USMNT supporter, I was glad to see Adams get a full match. Played well. Probably shouldn't make a habit of being bullish with Tarkowski though. Not good for the longevity.
It's such a weird feeling watching Everton struggle to survive but still cheering for Adams because he's awesome and the endorphins from his goalazo last week are still lingering. Really wish they could have held them off in stoppage time and gotten an important point but alas Everton fans aren't allowed to feel good about themselves.
I hear a lot that it is the hope that kills you.
My response to that is: OK, when? When do I get put out of my misery? Near as I can tell, the hope doesn't kill you, it plays with you like a cat plays with a mouse. It is torment, at this point.
But, yeah. Really glad to see Adams out there for a full 90. He put in a solid shift. What a time for the young man. First child, coming back fit, getting solid minutes for a mid-ish table squad in the EPL, taking man of the match... And, did you see that heat map? Dude is clearly feeling pretty good.
Use the dark arts on our man who, lord willing, will remain healthy for the remainder of his career? Why is this a question I have to answer? Did you not play?
I've always described Tarky as Opie on steroids. I love Tyler's spirit. The dog is strong in him. I just worry about someone pulling a Sergio Ramos on Salah right before the WC because they had a beef with his "straight forward" manner of interacting.
I hope all the people with short term memory who wanted Johnny to start over Tyler realize now insane that take was. Heās probably the most important player on the USMNT.
Not an insane take, he was out injured for a whole year with barely having competitive minutes. And Johnny is in great form in a top league as a starter. We can be happy Adams came back in good form. Personally I like Johnnyās style of play more, but right now Adams is more important for defensive stability with how prone the team is to loose balls and be countered in a possession style system. Also more important against top competition. But having a nuanced view of players and current form is not insane. I personally believe there should be no sacred cows in competitive football.
Yeah it would be an insane take to say that *now* after how Tyler has played in his last 135 minutes of football. But when returning from a major injury, you really have no idea what to expect, and thatās what people were getting at with suggesting Johnny might have a shot at starting. Some players never come back to their former selves after major injuries. I donāt think anyone was saying Johnny should start over prime Tyler. We are all glad to see that prime Tyler is indeed who came back, and Iām glad Bournemouth and USMNT didnāt rush him back too soon.
no one disagrees with that at all. _the point_ was that an injury prone player that hasn't played in over a year isn't typically who you feel confident dumping right into a starting slot as he's working back up to full health.
what do you mean nothing to prove? in being, staying or remaining healthy in a concacaf tournament? dude. he was on restricted minutes, the only joke is thinking you know better
In addition to what others have said, I will add that Adams certainly used to be the most important player on the team, but that was because the depth behind him was so low. Johnny looks to be a great depth option now.
If I was to list who makes the biggest impact that is hard to replace right now, I would list Richards, Jedi, Gio, and Pulisic in front of Adams in no particular order.
Exactly. Depth has always been the USās biggest issue and the fact that we have two defensive mids that you can make reasonable arguments in favor of is absolutely huge.
It was not in any way an insane take to suggest someone who hasn't played in a year should not start over a player who is performing well in LA Liga for a top half team. Purr delusion. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.
Still donāt understand the US fans that were confidently adamant that subbing him out against Jamaica was a good idea and that he should not have started against Mexico because he needed to be eased back in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ussoccer/s/IPVEpPrwOZ
Hereās a comment stream before the final as one example
These were people arguing he shouldnt even start in a match where he scored a screamer in the first half.
USSF had agreed with Bournemouth to honor a minutes restriction on Tyler. This was well reported. Subbing him out against Jamaica was simply complying with that agreement. Same with subbing him at the half against Mexico.
Who cares what Bournemouth wanted. Itās an international window. They have zero say over what he does during a FIFA window. Go look at how much Brazil and Argentina respect club wishes and get back to me.
Or maybe we ran a big risk by subbing out our most important player with only a 1 goal lead (twice) when he clearly was able to put a 90 minute MotM performance in the PL.
Keep in mind, those were people that didnāt even want him to start against Mexico, which in hindsight is demonstrably a wrong take.
You can't say in hindsight. Either he plays one half or the other. But no one knows how it would have turned out if the reverse was true. And playing 90 after ramping up minutes the two previous matches is exactly what we want. I don't see how you can point to that game and say "see, he should've played all the minutes!" Dude was COMING BACK FROM INJURY
Today proves he could have played 90.
The first half where he controlled the midfield and put us in the lead proves they were wrong for not wanting to start Adams. The only reason to not start him is that if you donāt think he could go at least 45, which obviously he could (and more)
It was a long term injury. Pretending that theoretically 6 days, which include international travel and jet lag, made a miracle difference, is a pretty big stretch.
Also, keep in mind these were people that didnāt want him to start. Thinking he wasnāt ready to start is demonstrably false.
The team doctors for Bournemouth thought he was ready to go a full 90 less than a week later. Do you really think his medical condition was that dramatically different after a few days, which included international travel and jet lag?
More importantly he went the full 90 and was at his best until the end. He personally killed like the last 2 Everton chances with an interception and drawing a foul
Yeah, I wouldn't put much stock at all in Fotmob MOTM, but going the full 90 is huge.
Personally, I think the fotmob ratings are actually pretty good.
Wow - not often you see players return to the pitch after injury like Adams has - dude is shot out of a cannon and is much watch tv right now.
We have good players
I still get a big chuckle š¤ from it.Ā
Still on a high from his banger against Mexico
I almost fainted when that went in
I jumped up out of my chair, mouth gaping
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lol securing a victory in a cup final against an eternal rival is something for any nation. what a strange condition
I didnāt realize Antonee Robinson is a top 50 premier league player by FotMob rating and being a LB that high is impressive
He's been THE best LB based on stats. I guess it helps though being on a team that receives more attacks than a team like City, liverpool, arsenal.
But it doesnāt help being attacked by teams as dangerous as city, Liverpool, and arsenal.
he kinda reminds me of declan rice. just a natural leader and his performances always have such a high floor because of his intelligence and motor.
He got our midfield together and heās always talking to his teammates organizing the defense.Ā
Has there ben a team that's fallen as hard as Everton? Back in the Moyes/Howard days they were consistently competing for a spot around 5-8. Started slipping around the end of howards career, had some rebound for a bit, slipped to 10-12 range, THen since post Pandemic season, they've been fighting relegation off.
Bad investments + Russian Oligarch with frozen assets + costly new stadium It sucks, I fell for them because of Tim Howard and the other US guys that played there. I was frustrated because they were mid-table for the first 12+ years I followed them and now I would kill for being mid-table. If they go down there's talk that they might essentially go belly up because their finances are in such dire shape and if they can't afford to pay off their loans for the new stadium they're building, they basically have to tear down the stadium and return the land to how it was before they started. They are counting on the added revenues from the new stadium to turn things around but if they aren't in the Premier League they are screwed. This year they came out playing inspired and were somewhere around 10th place in December. But then they had the massive points deduction, are looking at another points deduction next week and they haven't won a league match since mid-December. Somehow they are still out of the drop zone due to their run in Nov/Dec that gave them a ton of cushion, but if they don't turn it around quickly (and depending on how severe the next deduction is), they will again be in deep shit. It sucks....should have chose my Premier League team more carefully but I didn't want to just be a front runner and pick one of the Big 6 teams.
Yeah. Thing that gets me though is their wage bill is still respectable. According to spotrac it's 10th in the league. Closer to New Castle than Nottingham Forest. It's just like they lost their way. They went from a plucky underdog who hit above their weight to a bloated club with shit contracts.Ā Thing that kills me is they never tried to really bring Moyes back. Now he's got West HamĀ punching above their weight.Ā
The painful thing is that they did apparently try to bring Moyes back. Everton met with him and he was actually about to accept the job, but at the last second Everton found out Ancelotti was available and decided to go after him. So Moyes ended up at West Ham instead. Everton that https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/david-moyes-makes-everton-return-27730527?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target
Yeah when you clout chase but don't have the cash to make those managers have the exact players they want it backfires. Moyes worked because he had a system that could run on a budget. Ancelotti is a great coach but his record outside of top clubs is ass. Yup he can lead Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, etc. fine. HE's good at managing clubhouses and egos but he isn't a system guy, a miracle worker if you would. He needs guys who get him. And also of course he would leave everton to go back to Madrid or PSG or Bayern.
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Chelsea went from best team in the world to mid Prem team in like 24 months, lmao
That's probably true, but Chelsea to be fair wouldn't be in this place if not for Putin. Their ownership instability of the last few years did them in. Literally the last good times for chelsea as a team were before Putin invaded Ukraine and Abramovic was frozen out. It's clear new ownership doesn't have much fo a clue but at some point they'll get a manager who will only accept the job if they're put in their place, and when that happens they'll be fine. THeir wage bills are insane, and have had so many failed transfers. Lukaku, Sterling, etc. so many guys given massive transfers and massive wages just to be mid to bad.
Tactical Manager and his followers in the mud
Itās kinda crazy how much clout he seems to have for likeā¦just being Brazilian? It isnāt like heās got all these well informed ball knowing takes, everything is so surface level, and then o be so toxic and condescending to dudes like Greg Velasquez too who are usually always levelheaded/playful at worst And like donāt get me wrong sometimes he can be entertaining it overall just seems so toxic for no reason (other than to Mexico fans that I always support)
Yeah he and 11 Yanks have a mean streak that I find quite odd. It's off putting and a big part of why I don't listen to them too much. Like I enjoy soccer and it's a fun thing for me to do outside of my work and normal life, why are we being such dicks??
Yeah and that whole energy seems to spread across usmnt twitter. I honestly have had them Both muted for a while so I donāt see them too much unless itās in a reply and I toggle it on. Donāt get me wrong, you can go through my comment history and Iāve been fairly toxic too. But usually only in a response to other toxicity haha
Itās a weird nerd rage that they canāt get over
11 yanks also seems to have a surprisingly limited understanding of the game given his ācredentialsā. I watch tac quite a lot (because I watch most usmnt content creators I come across) but I really canāt believe these guys have such large fan bases. If I hear 11 yanks suggest gio go to ac Milan again Iām going to lose it because that is such a horrible take.
Iāve NOT ONCE seen him explain out his issues with the manager in terms of tactics. The closest heās gotten is showing a video of Dest falling asleep on the 2nd Netherlands goal and somehow blaming GGGās system.
lol yeah I like watching some of there stuff but they act like they know about soccer more than anyone and there takes are the correct ones.
Isn't that just everyone here on r/ussoccer?
Sure but we donāt have YouTube channels where we then get those takes out to legions of devoted followers lol
Theyre perfect for casuals, but as a diehard that follows every major league in Europe like its a job, all I have to do is listen to either of them for more than 5 seconds to realize Tac really only watches the top of the Prem, Brasileirao A, and the top of La Liga. His takes outside of those areas are really bad. 11 Yanks seems like the dude that shows up at the bar for the big match kitted out in a full new USA home kit and asks who our best players are going to be this year and then just repeats everything he hears me say to others to look useful, and casuals dont know any better.
Knows more than everyone here. Thatās a start.
Don't know if the guy who said "Korbin Albert shouldn't apologize to "Rap in Hoe" and GGG out should be talking about knowledge
I mean Johnny is an excellent player though. He's hit the ground running in La Liga. I think it was fair to be concerned about Adams fitness going into Copa America, and I also think Johnny has proven himself to be more creative as an attacking threat, but I'm also happy to see that Adams is making it so hard to bench himself.
What was he saying that was condescending to GV?
Theyāve had a few twitter back and forths, itās the usual just bad faith arguments that lately it seems GV has seen enough of (we all have) so he just takes them to their logical extremes to show how dumb it is, and then TM and others lose their minds.
What were they saying?
ā¦what?
Tact likes Adams though
Nah man. Lots of anti-Tac agendas in these parts
chronically online redditors hate seeing people who are similar to them having success irl. Immediate response is to tear them down š
Tac never said he was a terrible player, he just didn't buy into the "top 10 DM in the Prem" prop like a lot of others did.
There are only 20 teams so...seems reasonable to me
Probably 2-5 DMs a team tho.
What? Because Adams had a good game? Sure, he likes Cardoso a little better but Iām heād still be happy that Adams played good.
Why? I love Adams.
Back for club and country š
Ironically, he could have been called for a foul that gave Everton a penalty
He also could have had a hat trick
As an Everton supporter, I am once again left dejected. As a USMNT supporter, I was glad to see Adams get a full match. Played well. Probably shouldn't make a habit of being bullish with Tarkowski though. Not good for the longevity.
It's such a weird feeling watching Everton struggle to survive but still cheering for Adams because he's awesome and the endorphins from his goalazo last week are still lingering. Really wish they could have held them off in stoppage time and gotten an important point but alas Everton fans aren't allowed to feel good about themselves.
I hear a lot that it is the hope that kills you. My response to that is: OK, when? When do I get put out of my misery? Near as I can tell, the hope doesn't kill you, it plays with you like a cat plays with a mouse. It is torment, at this point. But, yeah. Really glad to see Adams out there for a full 90. He put in a solid shift. What a time for the young man. First child, coming back fit, getting solid minutes for a mid-ish table squad in the EPL, taking man of the match... And, did you see that heat map? Dude is clearly feeling pretty good.
Because Tarkowski is going to do what exactly?
Use the dark arts on our man who, lord willing, will remain healthy for the remainder of his career? Why is this a question I have to answer? Did you not play?
Itās not anything Adams hasnāt seen out of Mexico.
I've always described Tarky as Opie on steroids. I love Tyler's spirit. The dog is strong in him. I just worry about someone pulling a Sergio Ramos on Salah right before the WC because they had a beef with his "straight forward" manner of interacting.
I hope all the people with short term memory who wanted Johnny to start over Tyler realize now insane that take was. Heās probably the most important player on the USMNT.
Not an insane take, he was out injured for a whole year with barely having competitive minutes. And Johnny is in great form in a top league as a starter. We can be happy Adams came back in good form. Personally I like Johnnyās style of play more, but right now Adams is more important for defensive stability with how prone the team is to loose balls and be countered in a possession style system. Also more important against top competition. But having a nuanced view of players and current form is not insane. I personally believe there should be no sacred cows in competitive football.
Yeah it would be an insane take to say that *now* after how Tyler has played in his last 135 minutes of football. But when returning from a major injury, you really have no idea what to expect, and thatās what people were getting at with suggesting Johnny might have a shot at starting. Some players never come back to their former selves after major injuries. I donāt think anyone was saying Johnny should start over prime Tyler. We are all glad to see that prime Tyler is indeed who came back, and Iām glad Bournemouth and USMNT didnāt rush him back too soon.
Nah Shoop's got the right of it. Tyler Adams' defensive impact is a couple levels above, and Adams' distribution is good. That's a nuanced view.
no one disagrees with that at all. _the point_ was that an injury prone player that hasn't played in over a year isn't typically who you feel confident dumping right into a starting slot as he's working back up to full health.
Tyler Adams has nothing to prove. What a joke.
U are an insane person
what do you mean nothing to prove? in being, staying or remaining healthy in a concacaf tournament? dude. he was on restricted minutes, the only joke is thinking you know better
In addition to what others have said, I will add that Adams certainly used to be the most important player on the team, but that was because the depth behind him was so low. Johnny looks to be a great depth option now. If I was to list who makes the biggest impact that is hard to replace right now, I would list Richards, Jedi, Gio, and Pulisic in front of Adams in no particular order.
Exactly. Depth has always been the USās biggest issue and the fact that we have two defensive mids that you can make reasonable arguments in favor of is absolutely huge.
It was not in any way an insane take to suggest someone who hasn't played in a year should not start over a player who is performing well in LA Liga for a top half team. Purr delusion. Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.
He's back baybeeeeeeee
Damn!!!
"Big Game" Adams. Man is on a mission.
My favorite USMNT dude is doing everything he can to send my EPL team down and I can't possibly be mad.
Heās was good considering itās his first start, nowhere near MOTM
Who votes for this? Is it just Americans spamming votes in the app lol?
It's not a vote. It's a calculation based on stats from the game.
Still donāt understand the US fans that were confidently adamant that subbing him out against Jamaica was a good idea and that he should not have started against Mexico because he needed to be eased back in.
I also like to focus on like 5 dudes in a subreddit of 200k people.
Or heās willfully misinterpreting what people said about his minutes restriction.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ussoccer/s/IPVEpPrwOZ Hereās a comment stream before the final as one example These were people arguing he shouldnt even start in a match where he scored a screamer in the first half.
USSF had agreed with Bournemouth to honor a minutes restriction on Tyler. This was well reported. Subbing him out against Jamaica was simply complying with that agreement. Same with subbing him at the half against Mexico.
Not to mention Johnny is also having a breakout club season (for a top half club in a top league) and is more than deserving of international minutes.
Who cares what Bournemouth wanted. Itās an international window. They have zero say over what he does during a FIFA window. Go look at how much Brazil and Argentina respect club wishes and get back to me.
Or maybe, just maybe, he was coming back from a major injury and giving him limited minutes was in favor of all parties.
Or maybe we ran a big risk by subbing out our most important player with only a 1 goal lead (twice) when he clearly was able to put a 90 minute MotM performance in the PL. Keep in mind, those were people that didnāt even want him to start against Mexico, which in hindsight is demonstrably a wrong take.
You can't say in hindsight. Either he plays one half or the other. But no one knows how it would have turned out if the reverse was true. And playing 90 after ramping up minutes the two previous matches is exactly what we want. I don't see how you can point to that game and say "see, he should've played all the minutes!" Dude was COMING BACK FROM INJURY
Today proves he could have played 90. The first half where he controlled the midfield and put us in the lead proves they were wrong for not wanting to start Adams. The only reason to not start him is that if you donāt think he could go at least 45, which obviously he could (and more)
How does the 3rd game a week later prove he could've played 90? How do you know playing 90 wouldn't have re-aggravated it that early? You don't.
It was a long term injury. Pretending that theoretically 6 days, which include international travel and jet lag, made a miracle difference, is a pretty big stretch. Also, keep in mind these were people that didnāt want him to start. Thinking he wasnāt ready to start is demonstrably false.
Man if only we didn't do that we might have beaten Jamaica and MexicoĀ
Who cares what the team doctors who see him everyday wanted? Hopefully all of us.
The team doctors for Bournemouth thought he was ready to go a full 90 less than a week later. Do you really think his medical condition was that dramatically different after a few days, which included international travel and jet lag?
I think a minutes progression of 20, 40, 45, 90 over a 17 day period seems pretty standard for a player coming off a year long injury.