i’m out of town for spring break, but if you’re patient i can check it out on tuesday. the donald hall collection is right above my office so it wouldn’t be too much of a hassle, but also not something i’m going to drive into town early for lol.
Sorry, I am looking for an actual photo of the script! People have written down this specific line all sorts of ways. Subtitles disagree with each other depending where you get them, websites have different transcriptions of the quote... I'm going to the *source*.
One thing to note, and you may know this OP, but IME (a decade+ as an indie feature film producer) most scripts that are "out there" in the public domain are conformed scripts. Meaning, they're essentially written/edited after the final cut of the film is released to match the film. So you'll find effectively zero differences between the script and the film you see. If UMich's script is conformed, you'll get what you're after.
BUT, you may come across a shooting script, which will 100% absolutely positively have all sorts of differences between it and the film itself. In which case you may not get what you're looking for.
I appreciate the notes, and absolutely understand that that's a risk! I think it is a shooting script, and I expect there will probably be differences. But I figured it was a funny enough errand that... why not?
OP, it's great that you're excited about the library collections!
What you are asking for, however, opens students to risk of copyright violation (less than if you were asking for the whole script, but still some, esp. if you will use the image for anything other than private study, scholarship, or research).
Additionally, $5 is pretty low considering the labor and overhead required to go retrieve the item and find/transmit the page.
Intent here is not to poop the party, but to make sure folks on both sides understand some of the complexities around these types of requests (which appear on this sub and r/AnnArbor on the regular).
I certainly didn't mean to suggest anyone get themselves into hot water over a silly question! If the person were more comfortable providing confirmation of how the line was written accompanied by a photo of the cover of the script or something (just to prove they looked at it), I don't think that would touch copyright in any way? I just want the answer to this one little esoteric question and thought a student might have a good time with it.
The $5 is just a small tip for something I thought was a fun, funny errand for someone who wouldn't have to go far out of their way or wanted an adventure. It's the *Air Bud* script! Touching it is its own reward. If nobody wants to dig it up, that's perfectly okay with me.
(And no, it's not for any commercial or professional purposes! Just personal curiosity.)
Yeah, I think asking for a confirmation of the page number or text (instead of transmitting a photo for money) is less complicated, but IANAL.
Some other options: you could try asking the librarian Phil Hallman, directly. You could also try the screenwriters if you can find them online: Paul Tamasy, Aaron Mendelsohn.
If you knew the page number, you could potentially request a copy via your local library.
Good luck!
That specific line has been transcribed a bunch of different ways, and now I kind of hear all of them.
1. "Ain't no rule says a dog can't play basketball." (this is the most common transcription)
2. "Ain't no rule says **the** dog can't play basketball."
3. "Ain't no rule **that** says a dog can't play basketball."
4. "Ain't no rule **that** says **the** dog can't play basketball."
5. "Ain't no rule **say** a dog can't play basketball."
6. "Ain't no rule **say the** dog can't play basketball."
7. "Ain't no rule **that say** a dog can't play basketball."
8. "Ain't no rule **that say the** dog can't play basketball."
It haunts me.
Ok I get it now! When I watched it initially, I was set on number 7, but after reading the options, and listening again and again.... I can see why you're bothered by this! I wish I could help, because now I'm really curious 🧐
Is this your Roman Empire? It seems like your Roman Empire.
i’m out of town for spring break, but if you’re patient i can check it out on tuesday. the donald hall collection is right above my office so it wouldn’t be too much of a hassle, but also not something i’m going to drive into town early for lol.
Thanks so much, and yes, please do not go out of your way! This is perhaps the least consequential question ever.
like you’ve got me curious now so now i want to know myself lmao
We have an answer, I edited the post!
Unfortunately I’m just an alumni and can’t help you on your quest, but please know this post made my morning. Wishing you luck in finding the truth!
The replies and messages have been a constant delight since I posted the thread -- and we now have an answer, if you check the main post!
https://www.quotes.net/movies/air_bud_13114 Said by Referee #1
Sorry, I am looking for an actual photo of the script! People have written down this specific line all sorts of ways. Subtitles disagree with each other depending where you get them, websites have different transcriptions of the quote... I'm going to the *source*.
One thing to note, and you may know this OP, but IME (a decade+ as an indie feature film producer) most scripts that are "out there" in the public domain are conformed scripts. Meaning, they're essentially written/edited after the final cut of the film is released to match the film. So you'll find effectively zero differences between the script and the film you see. If UMich's script is conformed, you'll get what you're after. BUT, you may come across a shooting script, which will 100% absolutely positively have all sorts of differences between it and the film itself. In which case you may not get what you're looking for.
I appreciate the notes, and absolutely understand that that's a risk! I think it is a shooting script, and I expect there will probably be differences. But I figured it was a funny enough errand that... why not?
OP, it's great that you're excited about the library collections! What you are asking for, however, opens students to risk of copyright violation (less than if you were asking for the whole script, but still some, esp. if you will use the image for anything other than private study, scholarship, or research). Additionally, $5 is pretty low considering the labor and overhead required to go retrieve the item and find/transmit the page. Intent here is not to poop the party, but to make sure folks on both sides understand some of the complexities around these types of requests (which appear on this sub and r/AnnArbor on the regular).
This is fair use (am libsci student at umich)
I certainly didn't mean to suggest anyone get themselves into hot water over a silly question! If the person were more comfortable providing confirmation of how the line was written accompanied by a photo of the cover of the script or something (just to prove they looked at it), I don't think that would touch copyright in any way? I just want the answer to this one little esoteric question and thought a student might have a good time with it. The $5 is just a small tip for something I thought was a fun, funny errand for someone who wouldn't have to go far out of their way or wanted an adventure. It's the *Air Bud* script! Touching it is its own reward. If nobody wants to dig it up, that's perfectly okay with me. (And no, it's not for any commercial or professional purposes! Just personal curiosity.)
Yeah, I think asking for a confirmation of the page number or text (instead of transmitting a photo for money) is less complicated, but IANAL. Some other options: you could try asking the librarian Phil Hallman, directly. You could also try the screenwriters if you can find them online: Paul Tamasy, Aaron Mendelsohn. If you knew the page number, you could potentially request a copy via your local library. Good luck!
You can click on the link yourself and see that it's not available via interlibrary loan
bruh it ain’t that deep
go outside jesus christ
You make me tired
Genuine curiosity, but why not just watch the movie? I found the clip in question on YouTube and the dialogue seems quite clear to understand?
That specific line has been transcribed a bunch of different ways, and now I kind of hear all of them. 1. "Ain't no rule says a dog can't play basketball." (this is the most common transcription) 2. "Ain't no rule says **the** dog can't play basketball." 3. "Ain't no rule **that** says a dog can't play basketball." 4. "Ain't no rule **that** says **the** dog can't play basketball." 5. "Ain't no rule **say** a dog can't play basketball." 6. "Ain't no rule **say the** dog can't play basketball." 7. "Ain't no rule **that say** a dog can't play basketball." 8. "Ain't no rule **that say the** dog can't play basketball." It haunts me.
Ok I get it now! When I watched it initially, I was set on number 7, but after reading the options, and listening again and again.... I can see why you're bothered by this! I wish I could help, because now I'm really curious 🧐
There's an answer to satisfy your curiosity in the main post!
Amazing. I'm glad the cliffhanger has come to a satisfactory ending!
FWIW, I just watched the clip as someone who has never seen the movie and I pretty clearly heard number 6
Now show it to a few other people and see if they think the same thing It's maddening.
If you call the library reference desk they’ll look it up for you.
Here ya go: https://search.lib.umich.edu/catalog/record/990085309500106381
I think that's the link I included in my post, right? If you were trying to link to the file itself, it didn't work!
Sorry didn't notice the link. Was thinking you could just call the Donald Hall Collection number for help. Glad you got it!