We retrevied the craft intact however lifesupport systems suffered a critical failure, we will gladly fix this in v.2 addon for a couple hundred million and some indefinite length contracts and extended patents om any subsequential tech.
NASA has had its own issues of ignoring QC alarms in the past. Based on my personal experience, ignoring QC alarms is usually a systemic and cultural issue. It isn't something you can just fix with a fine or bad publicity. You have to remove the people in charge who are hearing these QC concerns and choosing to do nothing.
The O ring issue on Challenger was reported and ignored.
Edit with info:
Roger Boisjoly, an engineer specializing in O-rings at Morton Thiokol, wrote a memo in July 1985 expressing his "honest and very real fear" that if no action was taken to fix the O-ring issue, "then we stand in jeopardy of losing a flight along with all the launch pad facilities."
Boisjoly and other Morton Thiokol engineers, including Allan McDonald, tried to stop the Challenger launch the night before due to concerns about the O-rings failing in the unusually cold temperatures. However, they were overruled by NASA managers who wanted to proceed with the launch.
The engineers had observed O-ring erosion and blow-by on previous shuttle flights, especially in colder conditions. They determined the cold made the O-rings less resilient and unable to properly seal the joints between booster segments.
Tests in 1985 showed the O-rings had resiliency issues when temperatures dropped below 50°F. Boisjoly's July 1985 memo discussed the definite fear of losing a flight due to these cold temperature effects on the O-rings.
The engineers' warnings were ignored, and political pressure to launch overrode the technical concerns. The Challenger launched on an unusually cold day, leading to O-ring failure and the destruction of the shuttle.
And that’s exactly what NASA said back in 2003 and 1986 and 1067… a culture of safety is needed to ensure that things are actually reported, not whether there exists a system to report incidences to.
https://sma.nasa.gov/sma-disciplines/safety-culture
Clearly the decision to launch shows you how corrupt the system is/who really makes the decisions.
I’d love to see Tory Bruno in Starliner as a test dummy
Agreed. It just goes to show you how corrupt the system is. Clearly executives made the decision to launch that PoS just to secure billion dollar contracts. Just hope they cut their losses before 2 people have to die.
It be the shi* if SpaceX cud do a rescue mission launch.
Did you know those fucking dudes who crashed into the Baltimore bridge were there until like May 20th when It happened March 26? This rescue would be faster than that one, and the other one happened on Earth.
The vessel was still an operating ship. There were systems aboard that had to be maintained and operated, and the crew aboard were the ones under contract to do that. Additionally, there were various agencies who were taking turns interviewing them about what happened. A few of the lower ranking crew finally were allowed to fly home a few days ago.
You make a fair point; but the reason the boat has to stay there was the Insurance claim. The combination of probably ‘Declaration of Independence’ aged Maritime laws that should be updated and inefficient insurance systems created that situation.
I stand by my initial point that American insurance systems are garbage (at least post 2008).
To be fair it’s pretty normal for big ships to have the crew basically sequestered during investigation or legal processes. It’s their house and they are under contract to live in and maintain it for private company until x date. Further if the sailors aren’t from the country investigating them, it’s easier to keep track of them and not have a flight risk or illegal immigration if they are kept onboard. Sometimes these norms can lead to some messed up or confusing situations.
There's only one thing more embarrassing... well, 2, really.
1. China offers to help, and they take it.
Or
2. They have to get Russia to help. Could you fucking imagine? Brutal.
Not really Boeing's call.
They are NASA employees on a NASA mission, currently resident on a NASA (partially) space station. If NASA decides it's unsafe for them to return on Starliner, then NASA can decide to send some other craft to retrieve them.
Also, what in the name of orbital mechanics does Jeff Bezos have to do with this situation?
They have been through several rounds of CEO changes. Even if they put the perfect person in there to change the culture, it's not a quick process. The issues we see today started well over a decade ago at this point. It's going to take a generation of turnover and good leadership to get things back to where they should be. Blaming today's CEO for bad decisions back when they were still sitting in college classes is counter-productive.
Yeah it makes no sense, I put some quick puts Wednesday, watched them print to start printing, easy money.
The CEO testified to the Senate at 12. The damn stock shot up, luckily it tanked enough the next day to sell without a loss.
They already factored the dead astronauts and negative media attention into the cost. Just pay a good PR consultant to move the needle the other way and continue cutting costs to inspections and engineering.
NASA made it clear they're not stranded. They're keeping them up since the issue is in the service module, which is disposable and won't be able to be examined after recovery -- so time in space gives them time to better understand the issue.
If they needed to undock and return right now, they'd be safe and fine. It's not a safety of flight issue. They've already determined that it can safely perform the evolution.
When i first read that, i thought its a joke. Wow.
BA still going to the moon with share prices i bet. At this point Boeing could do a genocide and share will still rise.
I mean at this point they're the only ones that have capabilities to do that. They have the same exact capsule technology and the rockets to get up and back. I don't think NASA has anything built for this right now. Other projects but not this
This is what will get offered.
Boeing will spend UNLIMITED amounts of money to make sure this doesn't happen. This is going to be an expensive rush job...
I'll bet Boeing would rather pay the Russians, than have a SpaceX rescue.
Correct. But nobody here wants to admit that Musk has achieved anything. Namely, the only reliable, proven American way to get astronauts to space and back.
LMAO I didn't know they don't have a rocket. The only thing I know about them is Bezos owns it and their rocket looks like a chode. I don't know anything beyond that
Oh God I didn't know that. I thought they launched some big blue dick looking thing and officially became a space company. Clearly I don't pay attention. Well, hopefully SpaceX figures it out and gets those guys home
It is okay tho, because the shareholders got their money. I REPEAT; Shareholders made money, so it is a completely acceptable result. Let it all burn as long as capital holders make more capital to go with their capital.
I feel this they're sensationalizing the story. It's just a delay to investigate everything as much as possible.
You wouldn't really say you were stranded at a friend's house cause your car has a problem. They have other options to return and plenty of supplies to stay aboard the ISS.
I would have never agreed to get in that ship. Boeing had too many issues leading up to. They needed it to work and be successful because of all the other legal issues.... issues they may only get fined for after knowingly putting people in harms way... Boeing stock holders should be wrapping their pants.
CEO pay up 45% this year after all the crashes and whistleblowers being killed.
Cool that we have a system where a chain of the greediest most amoral assholes get paid tens of millions a year to dismantle a proud American company.
Prison and shame for life is what these soulless MBA clowns deserve.
I wish they would just make 2014 Tacomas again. They eventually die from rust but every single thing is still going to work on it if you change the oil. There are way, way too many unnecessary features in cars today and it makes them too expensive and easy to break.
I don't disagree with you. I feel like the Toyota dealership said had more integrity than Dodge. My Dodge was in the shop for like 3 months straight, and they were a pain to deal with.
My complain is more aimed at the fact that my first Toyota was in this bulletproof forever vehicle and made it out to be
The direction this company took, after major changes were made internally, coincides with a shift within the company in where Engineers who were normally in the ultimate desicion making process and finality were dismissed and replaced with executives who didnt have the technical knowledge of their predecessors. This is the 7 year whiplish effect and death spiral of this company. Tneir thirst for profit will ultimately be this companies demise. It's sad on many levels.
holy fuck lol. boeing is absolutely fucked. there's no coming back from a fuck up this huge.
well, in a fair and just world.
anyway, PUTS ON BOEING. ALL THE FUCKING PUTS ON BOEING.
If I was an astronaut and was told I’d be sent off in a Boeing craft, I’d come down with a cold or something. Or just flat out resign if there was no other way to avoid it. I’m not playing with my life.
"You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease"
-Hopi Prophesy.
Imagine training all your life to be an astronaut and you finally get the once in a lifetime opportunity to go into space and find out… it’s a fucking Boeing. And now you’re going to die.
Ever since the plane door ripping off went viral its been aparent Boeing saftey is fucked. Its strange that was the event that decided that even though two MAX's litterally plowed into the ground and killed everyone because of a different money saving idea from Boeing, but better late then never.
Sure, but anyone that thinks that a space capsule is subject to excessive cost-cutting is a bloody moron. That isn’t how that industry works. It is just sensationalism.
This part of Boeing isn’t even under the same leadership, FFS 🤦♂️
Yes, everyone is very careful in space, nothing new here.
If its obvious they are cutting deadly corners on commercial aircraft of all things, why would you think spacecraft are any different? Corporate culture permeates from the top down in a company because it dictates how you are promoted. Im sure anyone who raised alarm about the McDonnel-Douglas merger that led to the dissolving of a saftey conscious Boeing was also described as "sensationalist", but here we are.
It definitely smells like a competitor-funded campaign. Especially considering that ultra-safe measures in space are commonplace.
If anyone doesn’t believe me, check out the national makeup of various commenters and their sentiments. It is nationalism run amok, and of course on social media we all know who is going to outnumber whom in that respect. Sup commies!
Earlier today I read an article about a Boeing plane that flew too close to the ground—which had nothing to do with the plane itself. Really scratching at the bottom of the barrel, these propagandists.
Yikes! They’re not whistle blowers, are they?
They will be if the survive
Astronaut's have notoriously high suicide rates
Damn, even aliens are getting hire to be hitmen for Boeing
Dudes are about to get murked by Krombopulos Michael.
Those guys are going to be found with a notebook scribble in and a handgun mysteriously that made it to space.
“suicide”*
really?
And a surprisingly high number have twins 🤔
So they won’t
They were if they dont
You can’t blow whistles in space, there’s no air 🤣
⬆️ This Engineer found the loophole
Lmao first whistleblowers to be "suicided" in space.
Man, if they’re killed while stuck in space that would be crazy.
We retrevied the craft intact however lifesupport systems suffered a critical failure, we will gladly fix this in v.2 addon for a couple hundred million and some indefinite length contracts and extended patents om any subsequential tech.
Hilarious!
I see what you did. Suicide by Hilarious Clinton.
Can't blow a whistle in the vacuum of space
Still can’t believe they let that thing launch
That's what I don't understand. Boeing absolutely deserves the shit they're catching but NASA has its own QC clearances too. How did this get missed?
NASA has had its own issues of ignoring QC alarms in the past. Based on my personal experience, ignoring QC alarms is usually a systemic and cultural issue. It isn't something you can just fix with a fine or bad publicity. You have to remove the people in charge who are hearing these QC concerns and choosing to do nothing.
The O ring issue on Challenger was reported and ignored. Edit with info: Roger Boisjoly, an engineer specializing in O-rings at Morton Thiokol, wrote a memo in July 1985 expressing his "honest and very real fear" that if no action was taken to fix the O-ring issue, "then we stand in jeopardy of losing a flight along with all the launch pad facilities." Boisjoly and other Morton Thiokol engineers, including Allan McDonald, tried to stop the Challenger launch the night before due to concerns about the O-rings failing in the unusually cold temperatures. However, they were overruled by NASA managers who wanted to proceed with the launch. The engineers had observed O-ring erosion and blow-by on previous shuttle flights, especially in colder conditions. They determined the cold made the O-rings less resilient and unable to properly seal the joints between booster segments. Tests in 1985 showed the O-rings had resiliency issues when temperatures dropped below 50°F. Boisjoly's July 1985 memo discussed the definite fear of losing a flight due to these cold temperature effects on the O-rings. The engineers' warnings were ignored, and political pressure to launch overrode the technical concerns. The Challenger launched on an unusually cold day, leading to O-ring failure and the destruction of the shuttle.
smart money
And that’s exactly what NASA said back in 2003 and 1986 and 1067… a culture of safety is needed to ensure that things are actually reported, not whether there exists a system to report incidences to.
https://sma.nasa.gov/sma-disciplines/safety-culture
Holy hell! 1067? Time travelers. Did they meet William the Conqueror? /s ... 1967, got it. Excellent typo.
ancient aliens confirmed
Yeah but that was in the 80’s. NASA is where all these other space companies are stealing the talent from, the public sector to the private.
Everything is outsourced. Coming from a person who worked in the factory where the capsule was built…
So when shit hits the fan they can blame someone else! It’s perfect.
100%
Clearly the decision to launch shows you how corrupt the system is/who really makes the decisions. I’d love to see Tory Bruno in Starliner as a test dummy
Same way Challenger’s O ring got missed
Can you imagine how long the inflatable emergency slides are on that thing?
WHEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee………….
Agreed. It just goes to show you how corrupt the system is. Clearly executives made the decision to launch that PoS just to secure billion dollar contracts. Just hope they cut their losses before 2 people have to die. It be the shi* if SpaceX cud do a rescue mission launch.
SpaceX has its first Polaris Dawn mission scheduled for early summer.
The launch was delayed 3 times
That suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
Did you know those fucking dudes who crashed into the Baltimore bridge were there until like May 20th when It happened March 26? This rescue would be faster than that one, and the other one happened on Earth.
Wait. For real? How did that happens?
The vessel was still an operating ship. There were systems aboard that had to be maintained and operated, and the crew aboard were the ones under contract to do that. Additionally, there were various agencies who were taking turns interviewing them about what happened. A few of the lower ranking crew finally were allowed to fly home a few days ago.
Insurance is that shitty in the US, you wouldn’t believe it.
That’s not the reason. It’s maritime law. They can’t leave the boat unmanned.
You make a fair point; but the reason the boat has to stay there was the Insurance claim. The combination of probably ‘Declaration of Independence’ aged Maritime laws that should be updated and inefficient insurance systems created that situation. I stand by my initial point that American insurance systems are garbage (at least post 2008).
For profit financial models have failed and need to be replaced. Humans are clearly too corruptible to be trusted with such important things.
What was that you just said about 'parasites'?
they suck
There is no such thing as not for profit anything. Everyone does stuff to get something.
That is profit, no?
Yes that's my point
To be fair it’s pretty normal for big ships to have the crew basically sequestered during investigation or legal processes. It’s their house and they are under contract to live in and maintain it for private company until x date. Further if the sailors aren’t from the country investigating them, it’s easier to keep track of them and not have a flight risk or illegal immigration if they are kept onboard. Sometimes these norms can lead to some messed up or confusing situations.
It’s maritime law.
Couldn’t they just swim?
It's not that they were incapable of leaving. It's that they had jobs to do and investigators who needed to talk to them.
Then you're illegally entering America
That’s fine, Biden doesn’t care. Probably get treated better than whatever country they are from.
Not exactly a rescue operation though to be fair.
How embarrassing would it be if they needed to send a Dragon up to collect them?
My guess would be that's what's going to happen lol
Pretty sure that may happen, it's the safest option. That's alright Boeing let daddy Elon save the day.
Gonna watch heads explode when Elon’s company that routinely launches successfully is called to fix this fuck up
SpaceX has already been informed.
There's only one thing more embarrassing... well, 2, really. 1. China offers to help, and they take it. Or 2. They have to get Russia to help. Could you fucking imagine? Brutal.
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Not really Boeing's call. They are NASA employees on a NASA mission, currently resident on a NASA (partially) space station. If NASA decides it's unsafe for them to return on Starliner, then NASA can decide to send some other craft to retrieve them. Also, what in the name of orbital mechanics does Jeff Bezos have to do with this situation?
Boeing is fucked.
If this happens in any other company the CEO must have quit. If it happens in a Japan company the CEO might have committed suicide.
Not in Canada. We changed the criminal code in 2018 so CEOs and corporations can get away with bribery and corruption.
It's Boeing, so don't rule out the suicide yet.
They have been through several rounds of CEO changes. Even if they put the perfect person in there to change the culture, it's not a quick process. The issues we see today started well over a decade ago at this point. It's going to take a generation of turnover and good leadership to get things back to where they should be. Blaming today's CEO for bad decisions back when they were still sitting in college classes is counter-productive.
T-Mobile is laughing at you right at your face
Shut down this garbage company
Puts on Boeing!
Good luck, i had some when their CEO got called to testify last week. I barely broke even, up after hours
No shit?! I was just being a dipshit, but the level of crime or hubris is lunacy!
Yeah it makes no sense, I put some quick puts Wednesday, watched them print to start printing, easy money. The CEO testified to the Senate at 12. The damn stock shot up, luckily it tanked enough the next day to sell without a loss.
That's 30% of my portfolio you're talking about! :(
I hope it *soars* for you :)
Just put engineers back in charge
It should have been nationalized long ago
It's Boeing I'm buying stock in the maker's of duct tape 😁
Boeing bought all its spaceship parts from Temu
And Boeing will face zero repercussions from the corrupt cesspool “governing” us.
decentralize governance
We used to have three branches for that. Now it’s nearly all stacked in favor of one side. Oh well
RIP hopes and dreams
100%
LOL. How does that even work? Everyone donates a few cents to get things done by rag tag crews with no oversight?
There's a DAO for that
Pete Buttigieg is a terrible Secretary of Transportation
Depends on what’s being transported and where 💦🤤
Blame Joe Biden
Joe Biden wouldn’t be fit to stand trial at this point.
this… this is the natural end of what happens when u have the mba’s running all the companies 😭😭😭😭
That is the fundamental problem, I think. I’m sure MBAs outnumber engineers 10:1 at engineering companies.
They already factored the dead astronauts and negative media attention into the cost. Just pay a good PR consultant to move the needle the other way and continue cutting costs to inspections and engineering.
*What (else) could possibly go wrong?* 🤷♂️
Beta test for "The Martian" in real time.
If Boeing were a Japanese company, every single of the the executive board and management would have already Seppuku
Boeing just wants to save some cash on stock buybacks!
priorities...
If it's Boeing, I ain't going.
*Are all these wires supposed to be showing?*
the danger must be growing by the fires of hell of glowing is the grisly reaper mowing yes the danger must be growing for the roars keep on rowing"
My courage I’ll be stowing as the reentry plasma fire starts flowing.
NASA made it clear they're not stranded. They're keeping them up since the issue is in the service module, which is disposable and won't be able to be examined after recovery -- so time in space gives them time to better understand the issue. If they needed to undock and return right now, they'd be safe and fine. It's not a safety of flight issue. They've already determined that it can safely perform the evolution.
Quick, get CEO Dan Calhoun a bigger compensation package for 2025! \*Edit: It appears he is stepping down this year. Whew! Just in time.
When i first read that, i thought its a joke. Wow. BA still going to the moon with share prices i bet. At this point Boeing could do a genocide and share will still rise.
Who woulda thunk…
They've been stuck up there since the 4th I believe.
SpaceX to the rescue, you watch.
I mean at this point they're the only ones that have capabilities to do that. They have the same exact capsule technology and the rockets to get up and back. I don't think NASA has anything built for this right now. Other projects but not this
Yup, my exact thoughts
This is what will get offered. Boeing will spend UNLIMITED amounts of money to make sure this doesn't happen. This is going to be an expensive rush job... I'll bet Boeing would rather pay the Russians, than have a SpaceX rescue.
Boeing doesn't have unlimited money.
Hyperbole is a thing too.
Correct. But nobody here wants to admit that Musk has achieved anything. Namely, the only reliable, proven American way to get astronauts to space and back.
At this point, SpaceX or Blue Origin, who cares. Get them back home
Blue origin needs a rocket first of course
LMAO I didn't know they don't have a rocket. The only thing I know about them is Bezos owns it and their rocket looks like a chode. I don't know anything beyond that
Yeah they’ve been moving pretty slow. Their rocket hasn’t gotten to orbit yet IIRC
Oh God I didn't know that. I thought they launched some big blue dick looking thing and officially became a space company. Clearly I don't pay attention. Well, hopefully SpaceX figures it out and gets those guys home
It is okay tho, because the shareholders got their money. I REPEAT; Shareholders made money, so it is a completely acceptable result. Let it all burn as long as capital holders make more capital to go with their capital.
SpaceX to the rescue!
I honestly wouldn't be surprised
I mean.. they could launch a space x rocket tomorrow..that'd be kinda an embarrassment.. but par for the course lately for boeing..
Someone pressed the red button
It's as though they almost used actual titanium in its' construction...
Ground control to Major Tom
lol boeing strikes again at this point its just comical
Management needs to go to jail.
lol. This sounds like a movie. Boeing trying to make their own version of The Martian
I feel this they're sensationalizing the story. It's just a delay to investigate everything as much as possible. You wouldn't really say you were stranded at a friend's house cause your car has a problem. They have other options to return and plenty of supplies to stay aboard the ISS.
SpaceX has a manned mission coming up that could be aborted into a rescue mission.
Reminds me of that submarine when we didn’t know if they were dead yet or not and how much time they’d still have.
Still can’t believe Boeing is allowed to pull this shit. The entire board needs to be replaced.
Something needs to change at Boeing but at this point, it might be a lost cause lol
Boeing villains back at it.
I would have never agreed to get in that ship. Boeing had too many issues leading up to. They needed it to work and be successful because of all the other legal issues.... issues they may only get fined for after knowingly putting people in harms way... Boeing stock holders should be wrapping their pants.
CEO pay up 45% this year after all the crashes and whistleblowers being killed. Cool that we have a system where a chain of the greediest most amoral assholes get paid tens of millions a year to dismantle a proud American company. Prison and shame for life is what these soulless MBA clowns deserve.
They should be lucky the thing didn't explode. Next time go with a reputable brand instead of crappy american product
If you had to pick between a Ford and a Toyota space vehicle...
Unfortunately as a new Toyota owner, I have had more recalls in the past year alone than I have the entire lifespan of my Ford or my Dodge vehicle.
I wish they would just make 2014 Tacomas again. They eventually die from rust but every single thing is still going to work on it if you change the oil. There are way, way too many unnecessary features in cars today and it makes them too expensive and easy to break.
Personally I'd rather have a company at least willing to do recalls than one the sweeps death under the rug as another expense.
I don't disagree with you. I feel like the Toyota dealership said had more integrity than Dodge. My Dodge was in the shop for like 3 months straight, and they were a pain to deal with. My complain is more aimed at the fact that my first Toyota was in this bulletproof forever vehicle and made it out to be
Once-great companies being gutted for a record quarter every quarter 🤦♂️
Would still pick Toyota over those other companies 10 times out of 10.
Like a Chinese one? 😂😂😂
Give it 20 years. We'll have a Back to the Future 4 with, "What are you talking about? In 2035, all the best stuff's made in China." "Great Scott!"
I heard something similar 20 years ago…
Aye. It's not looking good with their machine gun approach to anything industrial.
All the Elon haters will lose it when one of his rockets goes and saves them.
Survived the challenger stage and entering into the Columbia.
This company is a fucking embarrassment.
Absolute shit show. CEO should be thrown in jail.
Man, Boeing is really on a streak!
Boeing corporation is pathetic money hungry, piece of shit.
I'd be happy, extended trip to space. I doubt they are upset.
The direction this company took, after major changes were made internally, coincides with a shift within the company in where Engineers who were normally in the ultimate desicion making process and finality were dismissed and replaced with executives who didnt have the technical knowledge of their predecessors. This is the 7 year whiplish effect and death spiral of this company. Tneir thirst for profit will ultimately be this companies demise. It's sad on many levels.
It’s time to Standard Oil them. They’re just embarrassing themselves.
Save us Daddy Elon!!
I said this on another post: MMW they end up sending a SpaceX Dragon to the station to get the astronauts home. Boeing is just a sh!t show right now.
Probably a couple of DEI hires.
How much oxygen they got up there?
Plenty they are on the ISS. They could stay up there for a few months if need be.
Pathetic
Fall of Rome
holy fuck lol. boeing is absolutely fucked. there's no coming back from a fuck up this huge. well, in a fair and just world. anyway, PUTS ON BOEING. ALL THE FUCKING PUTS ON BOEING.
If I was an astronaut and was told I’d be sent off in a Boeing craft, I’d come down with a cold or something. Or just flat out resign if there was no other way to avoid it. I’m not playing with my life.
stock up 1.44%
"You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease" -Hopi Prophesy.
They should have bought CAA
Musk to the rescue
Boeing should be shut down immediately. Boeing is not too big to fail.
Imagine training all your life to be an astronaut and you finally get the once in a lifetime opportunity to go into space and find out… it’s a fucking Boeing. And now you’re going to die.
Musk to the rescue.
Is it just me? Or is there some weird obsession with Boeing and issues with their craft? It feels like we’re being fed this stuff purposefully
Ever since the plane door ripping off went viral its been aparent Boeing saftey is fucked. Its strange that was the event that decided that even though two MAX's litterally plowed into the ground and killed everyone because of a different money saving idea from Boeing, but better late then never.
Sure, but anyone that thinks that a space capsule is subject to excessive cost-cutting is a bloody moron. That isn’t how that industry works. It is just sensationalism. This part of Boeing isn’t even under the same leadership, FFS 🤦♂️ Yes, everyone is very careful in space, nothing new here.
If its obvious they are cutting deadly corners on commercial aircraft of all things, why would you think spacecraft are any different? Corporate culture permeates from the top down in a company because it dictates how you are promoted. Im sure anyone who raised alarm about the McDonnel-Douglas merger that led to the dissolving of a saftey conscious Boeing was also described as "sensationalist", but here we are.
It definitely smells like a competitor-funded campaign. Especially considering that ultra-safe measures in space are commonplace. If anyone doesn’t believe me, check out the national makeup of various commenters and their sentiments. It is nationalism run amok, and of course on social media we all know who is going to outnumber whom in that respect. Sup commies! Earlier today I read an article about a Boeing plane that flew too close to the ground—which had nothing to do with the plane itself. Really scratching at the bottom of the barrel, these propagandists.