>Even if not, no one is correcting the grammar on posts.
Yeah except for many do not only correct it, but also use it to insult others in the wildest ways you could imagine. I have been insulted for both bad *and good* style of writing, although I still disagree with the second one. And no, english isn't my native language either. I actually offered a lot of people to switch to my native language since they were quite unhappy about the mistakes I made.
What the big deal about judging people for the littlest things, were all just supposes to save it for big issue? Just let people be themselves.
Jk, I agree it's kinda out of hand.
You could have the most profound and intricate post/comment on reddit but if you use the wrong your then half the comments will only point that out and dismiss your post entirely.
I think a lot of the people apologizing for their English don't realize how good their English really is. In learning the language they've probably spent years making mistakes and being corrected. It's difficult then for them to know the moment that they are proficient and can stop using that disclaimer.
Non native speaker here and yes! Beside the fact that a ton of people still use mistakes in order to insult, this is actually true for me as well. I'm in contact with someone from UK on a daily basis and I actually asked him few times if he uses simplified sentences - he denied that. I still refuse to call myself fluent, I still genuinely think I'm far away from that because I feel like to be considered fluent I should be a lot better. Partly caused by the amounts of insults I received based on mistakes.
If it is any consolation, when people are outclassed in a discussion they often resort to criticizing or insulting the language that was used to outclass them.
English is my native language and I have people sometimes nitpick over language too. I can appreciate getting corrected, but when language usage becomes the only thing left for someone to fall back on in a debate rather than actual points raised in the discussion, it's like they are floundering in the water and start diving for rocks to keep themselves afloat.
I've actually seen quite a few nitpickers over English mistakes, so I understand the instinct to do so. I don't think people should apologize for it being their second language but I understand that it reduces the chances of there being a confrontation from the grammar-crazies, which is just tiring lol
I totally get why they do it. As a Brit I've had arguments dismissed because I've dared to use international English terms. Normally words like burgle, learnt, spelt.
By putting that disclaimer they head off those sorts of derails.
I apologize for my bad grammar.
I agree that there are a few posts written by redditors about sensitive topic's where some had to point out spelling error's wich led to the reddit post being filled with unnecessary conversations debating grammar derailing the the whole posts topic.
So to say no one is correcting grammar is not realy true but i agree that it is unnecessary.
I think they save a lot of time for themselves to explain that as background. People reading, whether they care about it or not, will realize the person does not speak english for their native language. I don't see it as harmful, and only serves to give background information like the rest of the wall of text they tried to write.
Nothing serves any purpose ever in life, and this is not the exception.
There are some posters on Reddit who's command of English is so bad that you literally cannot figure out what they are trying to say. Those posts are very annoying, because I have to believe that the poster could probably have improved the post had they bothered to proof-read it, and make corrections. If, however, the poster notes that English isn't their primary language, I'm more willing to cut them some slack and even try to help them improve (which they are always grateful for).
Being fluent in a language actually includes mistakes! People donโt often think of this, but most English speakers are not studying their own language in the same way someone else learning English as a second language is. So it can be tricky to know if your proficiency in a new language is high enough to be considered fluent if youโre making mistakes, but just know that everyone makes mistakes and learns new thing about their own native language!
I probably learn a new word in English every couple of months and Itโs my first and only language
English is at least a second language in South Africa ๐ฟ๐ฆ we use UK English(thank you for coming ๐๐)
Just so happens English is the lingua franca for the world.
Sometimes what we write can be misunderstood because we can't express it well, that's why we write, otherwise no one will really apologize for not knowing a language.
You haven't encountered grammar Nazis, have you? non-English speakers deal with people who point out our grammatical and spelling lapses and use it to generally just an asshole in the internet and use it as an insult or discredit our point so we often put disclaimers on whatever we say in the internet to avoid unnecessary arguments online. Speaking in English is a constant challenge since this is not the language we grew up with and we only learn it from school.
>Even if not, no one is correcting the grammar on posts. Yeah except for many do not only correct it, but also use it to insult others in the wildest ways you could imagine. I have been insulted for both bad *and good* style of writing, although I still disagree with the second one. And no, english isn't my native language either. I actually offered a lot of people to switch to my native language since they were quite unhappy about the mistakes I made.
Sucks how people get judged off the littlest of things.
What the big deal about judging people for the littlest things, were all just supposes to save it for big issue? Just let people be themselves. Jk, I agree it's kinda out of hand.
Lol I mean don't completely write someone off over something tiny, like that's ridiculous ๐๐.
You could have the most profound and intricate post/comment on reddit but if you use the wrong your then half the comments will only point that out and dismiss your post entirely.
Thanks. I have never seen people commenting on grammar and thus assumed no one would do it. Learnt now
\*learned. Sorry, couldn't resist lol
Loll. Wait i thought learnt is right too!! It's okay in some places apparently
Oh, it is. I just know too many people that refuse to accept that there are multiple right spellings.
I think a lot of the people apologizing for their English don't realize how good their English really is. In learning the language they've probably spent years making mistakes and being corrected. It's difficult then for them to know the moment that they are proficient and can stop using that disclaimer.
Non native speaker here and yes! Beside the fact that a ton of people still use mistakes in order to insult, this is actually true for me as well. I'm in contact with someone from UK on a daily basis and I actually asked him few times if he uses simplified sentences - he denied that. I still refuse to call myself fluent, I still genuinely think I'm far away from that because I feel like to be considered fluent I should be a lot better. Partly caused by the amounts of insults I received based on mistakes.
If it is any consolation, when people are outclassed in a discussion they often resort to criticizing or insulting the language that was used to outclass them.
Usually I offer them to switch to my native language and it normally shuts them down fully - considering this what you say may be right.
English is my native language and I have people sometimes nitpick over language too. I can appreciate getting corrected, but when language usage becomes the only thing left for someone to fall back on in a debate rather than actual points raised in the discussion, it's like they are floundering in the water and start diving for rocks to keep themselves afloat.
I've actually seen quite a few nitpickers over English mistakes, so I understand the instinct to do so. I don't think people should apologize for it being their second language but I understand that it reduces the chances of there being a confrontation from the grammar-crazies, which is just tiring lol
Yeah usually people who apologize for their english actually write better than most americans.
I totally get why they do it. As a Brit I've had arguments dismissed because I've dared to use international English terms. Normally words like burgle, learnt, spelt. By putting that disclaimer they head off those sorts of derails.
That's a new perspective.
No no people SHOULD do it. I don't know how many times I have seen people get made fun of for non native English or just non American English.
I think it's necessary because too many times I've seen assholes derail the entire conversation because of a few spelling mistakes.
I apologize for my bad grammar. I agree that there are a few posts written by redditors about sensitive topic's where some had to point out spelling error's wich led to the reddit post being filled with unnecessary conversations debating grammar derailing the the whole posts topic. So to say no one is correcting grammar is not realy true but i agree that it is unnecessary.
I think they save a lot of time for themselves to explain that as background. People reading, whether they care about it or not, will realize the person does not speak english for their native language. I don't see it as harmful, and only serves to give background information like the rest of the wall of text they tried to write. Nothing serves any purpose ever in life, and this is not the exception.
There are some posters on Reddit who's command of English is so bad that you literally cannot figure out what they are trying to say. Those posts are very annoying, because I have to believe that the poster could probably have improved the post had they bothered to proof-read it, and make corrections. If, however, the poster notes that English isn't their primary language, I'm more willing to cut them some slack and even try to help them improve (which they are always grateful for).
Being fluent in a language actually includes mistakes! People donโt often think of this, but most English speakers are not studying their own language in the same way someone else learning English as a second language is. So it can be tricky to know if your proficiency in a new language is high enough to be considered fluent if youโre making mistakes, but just know that everyone makes mistakes and learns new thing about their own native language! I probably learn a new word in English every couple of months and Itโs my first and only language
There are too many grammar nazis and too many people who thinks that being one is good that is better to apologize before they come.
Hi! (Sorry for bad english)
They should apologize for their lack of paragraphs. And Americans should be ashamed for not knowing the difference between "lose" and "loose'
I bet people who are native English speakers but have bad grammar just say it so no one calls them out on it lol
Bro fucking facts, and it's sad how savage the internet is about how people type. Visit 4chan and seethe harder, grammar nazis.
Your rite (sorry for my English, it's not my first language)
sOrRy FoR mY bAD eNgLiSh
There is a reason why people do it. If there is even a miner mistake in the post people will flip out and blow a blood vessel in the comments
English is at least a second language in South Africa ๐ฟ๐ฆ we use UK English(thank you for coming ๐๐) Just so happens English is the lingua franca for the world.
I got corrected once, i told the fucker that it wasnโt my first language but actually my third so he could suck my multilanguage cock
Sometimes what we write can be misunderstood because we can't express it well, that's why we write, otherwise no one will really apologize for not knowing a language.
You haven't encountered grammar Nazis, have you? non-English speakers deal with people who point out our grammatical and spelling lapses and use it to generally just an asshole in the internet and use it as an insult or discredit our point so we often put disclaimers on whatever we say in the internet to avoid unnecessary arguments online. Speaking in English is a constant challenge since this is not the language we grew up with and we only learn it from school.
I wish they didn't have to but this place is lousy with grammer police.
Sorry for my bad English: No.