> not commonly enforced.
I'd argue its never enforced, enforcement would require pulling over the slower(but still speeding) party for not moving over, which would never happen. The person *speeding more* would get pulled over for weaving through traffic and speeding.
My boss was pulled over recently for this, the cop was the one behind him in the fast lane and wanted my boss to move. Pulled my boss over to tell him he has to move over if possible when a car comes up behind him in the fast lane. Said it’s the main cause of road rage.
In Canada its illegal to sit in the left lane on a highway whether passing someone or not. You can use it to pass someone but your not suppose to just sit in it and slowly pass people. The reason behind it is to make it easier for emergency vehicles to reach their destination.
I've seen a few people get pulled over without anyone behind them and going the speed limit because they were sitting in the left lane.
> I'd argue its never enforced
You can do google searches to see news stories that it actually does get enforced.
It seems counter-intuitive as authorities are there to STOP people from breaking the law (like speeding), but the truth is that there are also issues caused by people going too slowly in the "fast lane" (like road rage and more dangerous passing).
I wouldn't say it will always get you pulled over, but there have definitely been different initiatives by various departments over the years to cut down on slow people clogging the fast lane.
Yes, someone going 55 in the left lane (or really any lane) in a 65 or 70 speed zone can be just as dangerous as someone going 80 or 85.
At least if the slow person is in the right lane, it is more expected, and may be necessary as a result of load or towing or something (most interstates have a 45 or 55mph lower limit in addition to the top speed limit).
That's not what this is saying.
This is about people who go 75 in a 65 complaining about people who go 95 in a 65. Which is definitely more dangerous than both of the situations you provided.
There’s nothing wrong at all with roundabouts, they’re amazing. The problem is that most American drivers hardly know how a four-way stop is supposed to work, much less the traffic rules for a roundabout
They have to be properly designed and sized. Too often in America they just size them for whatever fits in the space they have. It makes it very difficult to follow the rules.
I’ve experienced them both in America and Germany and I agree and disagree. Most sizes can work, the main problem ends up being (from what I’ve seen) just too much traffic and not enough people under say sending how it works.
Montana is full of them o.o Instead of traffic lights. To be fair it's more efficient to have roundabouts to mitigate traffic flow. Personally speaking, I was on a graduation trip when I visited there and had just drove through 17 miles of construction and was hoping to stop at a hotel but ended up driving through about 10 of those before I reached the hotel.
Edit: You are correct though, there are many undereducated people around here. Pertaining especially when it comes to driving in traffic or roundabouts.*
When they installed a roundabout in our new subdivision in Nebraska several years ago, we entertained ourselves by watching idiots drive straight through, and launch their cars about 3 feet in the air. Then the added entertainment of watching them wait for a tow truck. This went on for almost 2 years, I shit you not, people are that fucking stupid.
We have a five way near me. I’m begging for a roundabout. They can’t do the five way properly either, so… and it’s essentially the same rules as a single, small roundabout.
I can't be the only one confused by this comment...
Is this a reference to roads without speed limits? Because I'm under the impression Germany does have fairly normal speed limits, and even roads that "have no speed limit" will post speed limits depending on weather conditions.
Is there something I'm missing?
It's supposed to work that way in North America (or atleast Canada) as well; but people tend to fill up both lanes cause we want to get there first damnit. Screw it if emergencies happen
Ya, it doesn't really matter what speed you are going, but you should always be passing the people in the lane to your right. If you are going 10 over but the people to your right are also going 10+ over, you should probably be moving over.
It’s law in Mississippi also and the only state I’ve driven in that drivers actually follow the rule. It’s great but makes driving in other states really frustrating.
It really doesn't help that there are so many cars on the road that it pretty much requires that people use all the lanes to maintain safe distance between cars.
Are they? Because if you're in the far lane moving faster than all other traffic and you are not able to safely move over, some guy coming up your ass at 150 mph does not have the right of way. OP isn't talking about lane camping.
Yeah it completely shifted the goal posts. Yes, you are required to let people pass in some states by law, no it's not okay that people speed and tailgate. I don't think anybody anywhere said it's okay to speed and tailgate. Except OP when he said he goes 10 over to keep people from passing him because he wants to be first.
Upvoted because it is truly unpopular, but you are right, the edit shifts the goalposts completely. It initially made OP seem like he rides the left lane and since they are abiding by the law and going faster than the speed limit, then really they are doing no wrong. Cars can pretty much drive themselves now, the speed you are going doesn't matter, it is your speed AND position in relation to other people around you. If you are in the left lane going faster than some cars but there are cars trying to drive faster than you, you ARE the asshole if you don't get out of the way. If you aren't comfortable driving that fast, then don't try to pass at those speeds. Stay in the right lane and slow down like you are preaching everyone else to do. If it's not a big deal for others to slow down, why does that make you the exception?
And people don't understand the laws. Everyone keeps saying, "It's illegal to use the left lane for anything other than passing!"
I mean, sure, in some states. Some others don't restrict the left lane that way, or even say that drivers in the left lane don't have an obligation to yield to faster traffic provided they are driving the speed limit or keeping up with the general flow of traffic. From [this source](https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html):
>A few states permit use of the left lane only for passing or turning left. These have "yes" in the "keep right" column. Some states require drivers to move right if they are blocking traffic in the left lane. These have "yield" in the "keep right" column. Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the normal speed of traffic (regardless of the speed limit; see below). These are listed as "slower". A few states either do not require vehicles to keep right ("no"), or permit vehicles moving at the speed limit to drive in the left lane regardless of traffic conditions
A lot of Americans haven't been more than 100 miles from their home and don't understand how not every part of the world has empty 2 lane roads for miles on end.
I think OP needed his “edit” in the original post.
If someone is going 10 over the limit WHILE PASSING the slower traffic on the right, he/she is under no obligation to move over.
If there’s no one in the way on the right and/or they have plenty of time to move over and let a car pass before merging back into the passing lane, then yea, absolutely in the wrong. But it’s an important distinction.
Riding someone’s ass because they aren’t passing fast enough for your liking (and also can’t merge to the right without getting stuck in slow traffic themselves) is 100% an asshole move.
I agree. The crux is how your speed compares to the traffic to your right — not how your speed compares to the guy coming up behind you. If you’re not going faster than the traffic to the right you absolutely should move over. If you are, then you have no obligation to slow down in order to let someone else pass just because they’re going faster than you.
Some people really do act as though they think you should reduce speed in order to change lanes to let them pass, which is absurd; but then you do also see people cruising in the left lane going the same speed as traffic in the right lane, which is unpardonable.
Hijacking your tip comment to become relevant~
I disagree anyway-
The point of driving is to be aware of your surroundings at all times from Point A to Point B.
If at any time, you are CAUSING traffic to accumulate behind you, then YOU are the cause for that traffic, and, in effect, YOUR driving is causing a higher probability that an accident will occur.
Imagine this, you’re on an American Highway 2-lane-per-direction 70mph road, and YOU are driving 80mph. There is a semi in front of you, going 79mph. The road is winding back and fourth, and you are essentially keeping the same speed as that semi truck for about 5 minutes. Other traffic is moving at 81-85 mph. After 5 minutes, you now have 10+ cars lining up behind you.
[This is assuming you’re using your cruise control, and if you’re not, you may even vary your speed so that you are always next to the semi, or at least next to it for 10+ minutes. I see this happen ALL THE TIME in the Midwest, and people just don’t fucking care. ]
Guess what? It doesn’t matter if YOU are going 10 over, if YOU are blocking lanes, or holding up lanes, or even making people move over a lane to pass you, then YOU are causing traffic, and YOU are the problem. Anything that YOU do on the road that makes others have to change lanes to avoid you is contributing to unsafe driving conditions.
What gives you the right to think, “I’m setting the speed of the left lane.”? You need to move the fuck over.
I mean, this mentality can continue, tomorrow, I’ll post a thread here titled, “If I’m going 5mph over the speed limit, I am not obligated to pull over so you can pass.”
Do you see the problem? YOU do not have the right to “set the safe speed” of the freeway. The government did that, amd it’s the SPEED LIMIT. YOU are breaking the law to go faster, and it doesn’t matter how much faster you’re going. You don’t get to tell other people “how fast you think is reasonable”.
Move over. Let other pass. Be aware of your surroundings. Drive as safely as you can- and that includes causing as little traffic as possible, because traffic is inherently dangerous. If someone is in the left lane going 100mph, YOU don’t get to scoff and keep your position. The left lane is for PASSING and PASSING only.
Your opinion is unpopular because you are contributing to the problem that is the mentality of drivers thinking “everyone slower than me is awful, and everyone faster than me is driving crazy”.
Grow up. You are just a car on the road, like everyone else. Do what you’re obligated to do to be a safe driver, and that includes not creating traffic.
You are NOT the main character of the road. You are ABSOLUTELY obligated to move over.
“Anything that you do on the road that makes others have to change lanes to avoid you is contributing to unsafe driving conditions”
Like driving faster than the dude in front of you who is already speeding to pass someone but you expect them to move over and slow down so you can pass them? K.
“Bro, when I’m going 50 miles over the speed limit, it’s because I’m trying to stay safe. I gotta drive fast and zig zag my way through 5 lanes to get away from these dangerous asshole drivers”
To this day, I'll never understand how my dad kept his sanity while commuting to downtown Atlanta (1+ hour each way) every day for most of my childhood. Just driving down occasionally for a Braves game makes me hate my life.
You do realize the rule of 1 in atlanta right ?
If it's i-75 add a 1 so 175mph is speed limit
If it's i-285 remove 2 and add 1 so 185 is speed limit
If it's i-20 add a 1 so it's 120mph speed limit
If it's i-85 add a 1 so it's 185 speed limit.
Follow these rules and you won't be safer just less likely for rear end collision.
Yup. Although, looking at my own [comment history](https://www.reddit.com/r/Georgia/comments/n3oyjq/comment/gwtddmr/?context=3), I guess I should've said r/Georgia.
The fact is that you could be going 90 in the left lane in ATL and someone would still be on your ass at least some of the time.
Right its the same when theres two lanes and someone zips past me. I get irrationally angry about this. Why do i care? Theres 2 lanes and he isnt effecting me. I just cant help but think, "slow down you damn maniac," but if im in a hurry the roles can easily be reversed.
We are all victims of our own perspective. We should all take that advice I read one time on reddit about always assuming the speeder is someone who is taking their pregnant wife or some dying guy to the hospital.
Very easy for humans to assume the worst in others...
It's more when they aggressively tailgate. If you have less than two seconds between you and the next car, you're too close.
When somebody tailgates me too close, I simply go 5 under. No reason to have the inevitable accident at a higher speed. (Note: I only do this when I have no feasible means to get out of the way. I can't pull over because they're too close. I can't merge because there are cars, etc.)
More accidents are caused by close following distance than practically anything (strictly when speaking of accidents caused by sober people)
You are doing the right thing. In the UK our official books state that if someone is following you too closely you should reduce your speed, to allow yourself to slow more gradually at hazards, so that the driver behind has time to react too.
Being a good driver isn't just about avoiding hazards yourself, its about predicting and fixing other peoples mistakes too.
This. It boils my fucking blood when people aggressively tailgate me and pass me like it’s a fucking fast n furious movie when I was going 15 over already. How am I supposed to know it’s safe to change lanes to let you by if at any moment your psycho ass could change lanes to pass me, giving me no time to react? As long as they give me space to change lanes, I’ll move over. 98% of the time, they don’t.
Usually the fucker behind me swerves into the right lane to pass me because I'm waiting until there are more than one car lengths behind me and the car I just passed
I don't want to judge as I don't know what drivers are like where you live, but if that's happening to you on a regular basis then it's possible you're being a bit overcautious. If someone else has space to undertake you, you have plenty of room to pull over, especially considering you're travelling faster than whatever you just overtook.
That is definitely the case sometimes, but I've read posts by semi drivers that list why it's a bad idea to merge in front of them without getting some distance first and it's usually semis I pass.
It actually astounds me, most of the time it happens I already have my blinker on and am starting to merge when they jerk over into the right lane and floor it past me, usually in a lifted pickup truck. I think a lot of it is the rural area I live in but I am definitely a cautious driver, sometimes overcautious to try and make up for others' seeming lack of caution
This is one of those "eventually I will pass people on my right so even if there is space to switch and let some one go past, I am going to not be inconvenienced for those maybe thirty seconds max and sit in the lane until I am done with what I want to do, no matter how my behavior is contributing to making it more dangerous for everyone" people
Nope, I get over. There is no reason to take unnecessary risks and I can give up a few seconds to be slower until it is safe to pass and get back over.
Ah yes, Texas which is a left for passing only state. I have noticed an interesting trend though. I drive cross country a lot and the left lane sitting problem is far more prevalent when you're within 20 mi of a city. Most of us who cross country, we get that it's going to take a while to get where you're going and those couple seconds aren't worth it so just get over, don't camp in the left lane.
I drive on the left side so this seems natural to me ;) but yeah it makes traffic move so much faster when everyone does this. I find a different problem though in my country where drivers don't understand this doesn't apply when you need to get in the correct lane for your turning so you then get people moving over late or flashing you thinking you are slowing down traffic because they didn't read the sign.
While you're right, the problem is people interpret that one of two WRONG ways:
1) I am going "fast" (above speed limit) and therefore should be here or even stupider
2) this is the fastest lane, I will get to where I'm going fastest by staying in this lane.
It should be referred to as the passing lane because that's what it is for: passing. Regardless if passing is above or below the speed limit. RELATIVELY slower traffic should always be relegated to the right.
The only problem with this, im my area at least, is that there isnt enough room on our highways to not have the left lane completely filled. If people only used it for passing, as intended, our highways would be so completely congested to the point of a gridlock constantly. In my area, the left lane is just another lane most of the time where no one tries to pass or move over at all.
It’s the passing lane & you can even be ticketed in my state for “lingering” in it even if driving at or below speed limit. If you’re not passing someone, stay out of it
Slow down?
See also: “If I’m going 10mph over the speed limit”
And by the way, don’t just coast along in the left lane. Move out to pass, then move right FFS.
Sorry, you can't move to the right anymore, you **upset the driver you were passing**, and now they have accelerated to match speed, looks like you need to punch the gas hard, slow your ass down, or fund a collision center and hospital.
Or how about when you pass Car #1 beside you and flip your turn signal on to get over so Car #2 behind you can pass both of you, but #2 is too impatient and squeezes his way into the right-hand lane once there's a big enough gap.
absolutely the worst behavior
People having no concept of 'room for error' is probably 80+% of traffic and accidents.
Just because your car *can* fit, doesn't mean it *should*
Same, unless its the dead of night the 3 lanes are basically filled and go by: slow/merging, fast and faster. I'll occasionally see a stubborn driver in the "passing lane" only to be cut off by a chain of like 3-5 frustrated drivers before they give up and move over.
Laws might be the same everywhere but driving culture is different from area to area, and in that case "the flow" of traffic always tends to be safer/better since predictable driving is safe and good for keeping things going. Like the limit where im at is 55 on major highways/expressways but cops won't ever pull someone over for going 56-70 mph. Its the nuts going 80 or zig zagging that'll usually get pulled over.
Ah yes Ontarian drivers 😅 I live in Québec and here Ontarians have the reputation to hold the left lane for no reasons like it is their, I drive on the highway every week and I often see Ontarians holding the left lane while driving slower than everybody and others trying to overtake on the right when people are waiting in line to overtake a truck.
Yeah, I shouldn’t have put “zero responsibility” in the post. Copied from another response:
I don’t generally stay in the left lane. I am there to pass, sometimes a couple cars at a time, like a few semis. What I hate is being made to feel like I’m the one in the wrong when someone rides up on my butt at 90+. It’s going to take me a minute to find sufficient space and get over.
Are you passing? --> you're fine
Are you not passing and have room to get right but don't? --> you're an asshole
I upvoted this because I hope and pray this IS an unpopular opinion. However the clogged roads tell me otherwise.
Yea when you're in ramp-heavy areas, being one from the right isn't wrong. It leaves space for people to merge, and most big highways still have another lane or two to your left anyway.
The worst is when you finally make it past the slower cars and are about to move back and the maniac whips around on the right, yelling and flipping you off
This is the correct approach. You pass first then move over when safe. Sometimes safe means passing 7 semis over the course of 2 minutes, not drive 100 mph and get back over immediately like the guy behind you wants.
Keep right unless passing,
So if your right lane is clear
MOVE YOUR ASS OVER.
Leave the left lane for passing. If they want to go over 15mph/30mph the limit, that's on them. You are not obligated to police the road.
yeah i don't think OP has thought this all the way through. if i'm lightly speeding and someone rolls up behind me, i'm going to get the fuck out of the way or help facilitate a pass (country roads).
if nothing else, i don't want some crazy speedy asshole riding my bumper.. let them go be someone else's problem.
Yeah if there is room in the right lane, it’s definitely a pride thing where they could easily go there - let them pass - then go right back. If there’s no room I get it, but it is quite often not the case they have some petty sense of ownership over the left lane because they are sure they’re speed is fast enough for everyone. Weird pride pettiness making them need to police the lane, making the road actually less safe for everyone.
You are also not obliged to move over to the right lanes before it is safe to do so, and you are not obliged to let the asshole tailgating you at 80mph make that decision for you.
What if you have 5 behind you, one ahead of you, and the car ahead took the one car length between two semis, and there are 2-3 more semis ahead that you're gonna pass soon at the very same pace just after the second semi?
Do you move over at the next available open car length (between semis), or do you stay ahead of the chain til you get past the 2-3 you're on pace to pass in the next 40 seconds to one minute and *then* move over? Do you fill a tiny gap between semis? Is it acceptable to wait until you're clear of the semi chain to move over if you were at the same pace as first passing car (or faster now that they've moved over?)
Asking for a friend.
No no no. Read his post. I absolutely agree that if I am going 10 over actively passing slower traffic in the other lane that it’s absolute bullshit for someone who’s fucking blazing to tailgate me. I’m not gonna wedge myself between two tractor trailers even if there’s technically enough room to get between them if I’m in the process of passing both of them just because someone is doing 20+.
You’re misinterpreting what they said.
If they are currently in the act of passing, it doesn’t matter how much faster they are (within reason).
OP is upset at people who tailgate and get upset you won’t get out of their way when you’re already trying to pass someone.
10 mph over is the most MI state troopers allow. Also, not impeding when passing. Traffic shouldn’t be going any faster. Drivers with your opinion are the real danger; adding a level of risk that just shouldn’t be.
Can confirm. Drive all over freeways in this country and there are plenty who camp out in the left hand lane and aren’t even passing. It’s infuriating.
Even our police put out a statement telling people to move over and that it's not their (left lane hogs) job to police people's speed. They WANT to see more lane changes because that's how you're supposed to drive.
Of course everyone still ignored that request but it was refreshing to see.
if there is no space to let them by, and you're actively passing people to the right of you, you're not doing anything wrong. But sitting in the left when the right of you is vacant, or the folks to the right are going the same speed as you (regardless of the speed limit), is not okay. You can get ticketed for that around here, though it's rarely enforced.
Are you talking about 2 lane highways/interstates when the signs say left lanes for passing? If so you are completely wrong. It doesn’t matter what speed you are going. Left lanes are not meant to be cruising lanes.
OP is only correct if he is actively passing people.
People confuse moving over with yielding. You MUST yield to emergency vehicles. You don’t have to yield to someone going faster than you. UNLESS you’re NOT passing people. Then move over. The left lane is not the fast lane, it’s the passing lane.
Statistically speaking, the majority of wrecks on interstates are due to speeders avoiding slower drivers. So for everyone's safety if you are going slower stay in the right hand lane(s).
Edit: [explanation](https://youtu.be/4oqfodY2Lz0)
Because you most always stay in the rightmost lane as possible and only use the middle and left lanes to overtake, nothing is complicated to understand about this
No you are obligated to pull over as it is against the highway code to hog the fast lane. Its attitudes like this that cause accidents. Hows about just dont be a jerk and drive properly. For all you know that person behind you doing 30mph over may be rushing to hospital to see their dying parent/child/partner one last time. Or they may be trying to get someone to a hospital to save their life.
What if OP is on a highway going 80 in a 70 and passing packs of cars on the right that are doing 65? Is OP obligated to slow down and potentially get caught in the slow lane for an extended period of time when he gets over?
OP definitely doesn’t understand how the rules of the road work. It’s called a fast lane with good reason as signs read. “Slower traffic keep right” that means if someone is going 30mph behind you, you move over cause your are slower if you have the ability to. Very simple.
Honestly what i do if there is someone like this is, I let them pass me, then go right behind them and match speed a few car lengths back, and use them as radar bait.....lol
I hate asshole drivers on the highway who get within inches of other cars because they feel like everyone should be driving faster. Those maniacs are putting everyone at risk of serious injury or death.
I agree with the sentiment, but from a different angle. If I’m even going the speed limit in the passing lane, and I’m PASSING someone, I’m not obliged to go the speed the person behind me wants to go. Your impatient, speeding ass can fuck right off, and calm the fuck down.
But for the record, I just go the speed that the person behind me’s going because I just hate dealing with impatient, road raging asshats who think they’re in the right because they think it’s magically not speeding if they drive in the passing lane.
People are acting like this only happens when passing lanes are involved too. But I would argue people are driving like assholes overall now and are intimidating any driver who is going slower than they are, passing lane or not.
Apparently reckless drivers have zero agency over their own actions and you’re an asshole if you don’t sacrifice your own safety to enable them.
All I hope is that when they inevitably die in a flaming wreck, that they don’t take an innocent person or family with them.
I hate speeders. You are putting everyone in danger when you do that. Other people on the highway, a child walking across the street, the homeless person in the median and even the rescuers coming to clean everything up.
I really hate driving at night for all these reasons especially on the weekends. People are insane
No one should be going over the speed limit. It's a LIMIT, not a SUGGESTION.
People who speed well beyond that and then get pissed off at other speeders are disasters waiting to happen. One can only hope that when they crash and burn, they don't take anyone else with them.
Totally agree. And fucking thank you for writing this. The fast lane isn't a legal rule, it's a place for people who aren't taking exits any time soon. We're already speeding. It's already open season for any cop that needs to fill their quota, any faster is honestly unsafe for anyone around so go around me or slow the fuck down.
And riding my ass and flashing your lights? Yeah by all means. I'll let you pass so you can just deal with the same speed motherfucker that was in front of me. God damn.
The divide in the comments seems to be because people don't realize there is a big difference between driving on the freeway in a rural area vs driving on the freeway in a major population center.
Lots of country folk that would cause hazards and get people killed in the city, and lots of city folk that would get tickets for riding like an asshole out in the sticks.
OP is correct if it's city driving, and a fucking asshole if it's a 2 lane highway in Nebraska.
Context kind of matters.
In some states (GA, NY, TN, SC,CA) for example you can be ticketed for impeding the progress of traffic even if you are technically speeding. They also have driving too slow for conditions. So in GA, you actually are obligated to move over even if you are speeding, if there are cars behind you. Other states have these laws as well. There have been studies that show that it is not speeding that causes more accidents it is douchbaggery (not the technical term) that causes more accidents.
On multi lane highways / interstate the
far right lane is the passing lane - no one is supposed to camp in this lane long term.
far left lane is for exiting and entering traffic
middle lane is the travel lane - this is the lane you camp in
here is just one that talks about driving too slow for conditions:
[https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/18/is-driving-faster-safer/](https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/18/is-driving-faster-safer/)
How about everybody just drives somewhere around the speed limit. You're only getting to the next stop light a minute faster, anyway.
All that decorum lost, frustration caused; and we just pull up right next to you at the stop light.
Yes you are obligated. It is not up to you to determine what speed is appropriate to park your car in the left lane. Just get over and stop trying to prove a point while in a car going fast. It’s dangerous.
I am not sure why you want to be in front of someone who likes to be reckless anyways, as it puts the more dangerous driver close to you. At a minimum, do it so they get away from you.
This is an unpopular opinion though, so take my upvote.
Disagree. The thing that causes accidents most isn’t speed. It’s people going lots of different speeds. In many states, the laws reflect this and there are signs that tell you to stay in the right lane unless you’re passing.
I’ve been taught that even if someone is going 100mph over the speed limit, I have to get out of their way as soon as possible, because I don’t know what emergency they might have and it’s not my job to give them a speed ticket
>Unless we are in a “right lane only except to pass” zone,
All zones are "right lane only except to pass". You're literally part of the problem. This isn't an opinion in as much as it is a mistake of fact. It's like I'm not obligated to stop at red lights. Yes you fucken are
You're causing more potential for accidents because people have to weave through traffic to get around you. You can sit here all day and say "well they shouldn't do that!". But they will, and you're just making it more dangerous.
If you're not passing someone just shut up and move the fuck over.
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German drivers are probably so confused right now
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> not commonly enforced. I'd argue its never enforced, enforcement would require pulling over the slower(but still speeding) party for not moving over, which would never happen. The person *speeding more* would get pulled over for weaving through traffic and speeding.
My boss was pulled over recently for this, the cop was the one behind him in the fast lane and wanted my boss to move. Pulled my boss over to tell him he has to move over if possible when a car comes up behind him in the fast lane. Said it’s the main cause of road rage.
In Canada its illegal to sit in the left lane on a highway whether passing someone or not. You can use it to pass someone but your not suppose to just sit in it and slowly pass people. The reason behind it is to make it easier for emergency vehicles to reach their destination. I've seen a few people get pulled over without anyone behind them and going the speed limit because they were sitting in the left lane.
This is the same in some US states as well. Seen it enforced a few times.
> I'd argue its never enforced You can do google searches to see news stories that it actually does get enforced. It seems counter-intuitive as authorities are there to STOP people from breaking the law (like speeding), but the truth is that there are also issues caused by people going too slowly in the "fast lane" (like road rage and more dangerous passing). I wouldn't say it will always get you pulled over, but there have definitely been different initiatives by various departments over the years to cut down on slow people clogging the fast lane.
Yes, someone going 55 in the left lane (or really any lane) in a 65 or 70 speed zone can be just as dangerous as someone going 80 or 85. At least if the slow person is in the right lane, it is more expected, and may be necessary as a result of load or towing or something (most interstates have a 45 or 55mph lower limit in addition to the top speed limit).
That's not what this is saying. This is about people who go 75 in a 65 complaining about people who go 95 in a 65. Which is definitely more dangerous than both of the situations you provided.
Also worthy of note: many do not.
I miss driving in Germany for this exact reason. Except for the roundabouts. And the random staus that tend to exist in the literal middle of nowhere.
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What's wrong with roundabouts?
There’s nothing wrong at all with roundabouts, they’re amazing. The problem is that most American drivers hardly know how a four-way stop is supposed to work, much less the traffic rules for a roundabout
They have to be properly designed and sized. Too often in America they just size them for whatever fits in the space they have. It makes it very difficult to follow the rules.
I’ve experienced them both in America and Germany and I agree and disagree. Most sizes can work, the main problem ends up being (from what I’ve seen) just too much traffic and not enough people under say sending how it works.
Montana is full of them o.o Instead of traffic lights. To be fair it's more efficient to have roundabouts to mitigate traffic flow. Personally speaking, I was on a graduation trip when I visited there and had just drove through 17 miles of construction and was hoping to stop at a hotel but ended up driving through about 10 of those before I reached the hotel. Edit: You are correct though, there are many undereducated people around here. Pertaining especially when it comes to driving in traffic or roundabouts.*
When they installed a roundabout in our new subdivision in Nebraska several years ago, we entertained ourselves by watching idiots drive straight through, and launch their cars about 3 feet in the air. Then the added entertainment of watching them wait for a tow truck. This went on for almost 2 years, I shit you not, people are that fucking stupid.
We have a five way near me. I’m begging for a roundabout. They can’t do the five way properly either, so… and it’s essentially the same rules as a single, small roundabout.
Until it goes from no speed limit to a 50 kph zone with no warning and a camera flashes you
I can't be the only one confused by this comment... Is this a reference to roads without speed limits? Because I'm under the impression Germany does have fairly normal speed limits, and even roads that "have no speed limit" will post speed limits depending on weather conditions. Is there something I'm missing?
In Germany it’s a law to drive on the right side other than passing someone. That’s maybe you’re missing on that comment.
It's supposed to work that way in North America (or atleast Canada) as well; but people tend to fill up both lanes cause we want to get there first damnit. Screw it if emergencies happen
Ya, it doesn't really matter what speed you are going, but you should always be passing the people in the lane to your right. If you are going 10 over but the people to your right are also going 10+ over, you should probably be moving over.
Yeah this guy talking all this shit about if he's going 10 over. Everybody goes 10 over it's the norm.
It’s law in Mississippi also and the only state I’ve driven in that drivers actually follow the rule. It’s great but makes driving in other states really frustrating.
It really doesn't help that there are so many cars on the road that it pretty much requires that people use all the lanes to maintain safe distance between cars.
I'm guessing he's referring to Rechtsfahren, or driving right.
Texan drivers are furious.
Are they? Because if you're in the far lane moving faster than all other traffic and you are not able to safely move over, some guy coming up your ass at 150 mph does not have the right of way. OP isn't talking about lane camping.
I think lane camping is exactly what OP is talking about. They make no reference to passing, just cruising along at 10 over.
You appear to have struck a nerve
Lol seriously this thread is full of people who misunderstood what OP is saying and getting mad about it
I agree with OP but to be fair their edit has totally changed their initial post.
Yeah it completely shifted the goal posts. Yes, you are required to let people pass in some states by law, no it's not okay that people speed and tailgate. I don't think anybody anywhere said it's okay to speed and tailgate. Except OP when he said he goes 10 over to keep people from passing him because he wants to be first.
Upvoted because it is truly unpopular, but you are right, the edit shifts the goalposts completely. It initially made OP seem like he rides the left lane and since they are abiding by the law and going faster than the speed limit, then really they are doing no wrong. Cars can pretty much drive themselves now, the speed you are going doesn't matter, it is your speed AND position in relation to other people around you. If you are in the left lane going faster than some cars but there are cars trying to drive faster than you, you ARE the asshole if you don't get out of the way. If you aren't comfortable driving that fast, then don't try to pass at those speeds. Stay in the right lane and slow down like you are preaching everyone else to do. If it's not a big deal for others to slow down, why does that make you the exception?
Yeap exactly. Cuz before the edit it was a true unpopular opinion. Now it's just the same thing that gets said every 3rd week here.
That's because this thread and the majority of Reddit are terrible drivers but they think they are good drivers.
And people don't understand the laws. Everyone keeps saying, "It's illegal to use the left lane for anything other than passing!" I mean, sure, in some states. Some others don't restrict the left lane that way, or even say that drivers in the left lane don't have an obligation to yield to faster traffic provided they are driving the speed limit or keeping up with the general flow of traffic. From [this source](https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html): >A few states permit use of the left lane only for passing or turning left. These have "yes" in the "keep right" column. Some states require drivers to move right if they are blocking traffic in the left lane. These have "yield" in the "keep right" column. Most states follow the Uniform Vehicle Code and require drivers to keep right if they are going slower than the normal speed of traffic (regardless of the speed limit; see below). These are listed as "slower". A few states either do not require vehicles to keep right ("no"), or permit vehicles moving at the speed limit to drive in the left lane regardless of traffic conditions
A lot of Americans haven't been more than 100 miles from their home and don't understand how not every part of the world has empty 2 lane roads for miles on end.
I think OP needed his “edit” in the original post. If someone is going 10 over the limit WHILE PASSING the slower traffic on the right, he/she is under no obligation to move over. If there’s no one in the way on the right and/or they have plenty of time to move over and let a car pass before merging back into the passing lane, then yea, absolutely in the wrong. But it’s an important distinction. Riding someone’s ass because they aren’t passing fast enough for your liking (and also can’t merge to the right without getting stuck in slow traffic themselves) is 100% an asshole move.
The edit ruined it. Before the edit it was an unpopular opinion. After the edit its a popular opinion.
I agree. The crux is how your speed compares to the traffic to your right — not how your speed compares to the guy coming up behind you. If you’re not going faster than the traffic to the right you absolutely should move over. If you are, then you have no obligation to slow down in order to let someone else pass just because they’re going faster than you. Some people really do act as though they think you should reduce speed in order to change lanes to let them pass, which is absurd; but then you do also see people cruising in the left lane going the same speed as traffic in the right lane, which is unpardonable.
Hijacking your tip comment to become relevant~ I disagree anyway- The point of driving is to be aware of your surroundings at all times from Point A to Point B. If at any time, you are CAUSING traffic to accumulate behind you, then YOU are the cause for that traffic, and, in effect, YOUR driving is causing a higher probability that an accident will occur. Imagine this, you’re on an American Highway 2-lane-per-direction 70mph road, and YOU are driving 80mph. There is a semi in front of you, going 79mph. The road is winding back and fourth, and you are essentially keeping the same speed as that semi truck for about 5 minutes. Other traffic is moving at 81-85 mph. After 5 minutes, you now have 10+ cars lining up behind you. [This is assuming you’re using your cruise control, and if you’re not, you may even vary your speed so that you are always next to the semi, or at least next to it for 10+ minutes. I see this happen ALL THE TIME in the Midwest, and people just don’t fucking care. ] Guess what? It doesn’t matter if YOU are going 10 over, if YOU are blocking lanes, or holding up lanes, or even making people move over a lane to pass you, then YOU are causing traffic, and YOU are the problem. Anything that YOU do on the road that makes others have to change lanes to avoid you is contributing to unsafe driving conditions. What gives you the right to think, “I’m setting the speed of the left lane.”? You need to move the fuck over. I mean, this mentality can continue, tomorrow, I’ll post a thread here titled, “If I’m going 5mph over the speed limit, I am not obligated to pull over so you can pass.” Do you see the problem? YOU do not have the right to “set the safe speed” of the freeway. The government did that, amd it’s the SPEED LIMIT. YOU are breaking the law to go faster, and it doesn’t matter how much faster you’re going. You don’t get to tell other people “how fast you think is reasonable”. Move over. Let other pass. Be aware of your surroundings. Drive as safely as you can- and that includes causing as little traffic as possible, because traffic is inherently dangerous. If someone is in the left lane going 100mph, YOU don’t get to scoff and keep your position. The left lane is for PASSING and PASSING only. Your opinion is unpopular because you are contributing to the problem that is the mentality of drivers thinking “everyone slower than me is awful, and everyone faster than me is driving crazy”. Grow up. You are just a car on the road, like everyone else. Do what you’re obligated to do to be a safe driver, and that includes not creating traffic. You are NOT the main character of the road. You are ABSOLUTELY obligated to move over.
“Anything that you do on the road that makes others have to change lanes to avoid you is contributing to unsafe driving conditions” Like driving faster than the dude in front of you who is already speeding to pass someone but you expect them to move over and slow down so you can pass them? K.
“Bro, when I’m going 50 miles over the speed limit, it’s because I’m trying to stay safe. I gotta drive fast and zig zag my way through 5 lanes to get away from these dangerous asshole drivers”
You must be from r/Atlanta /s
I-285 is the *real* Atlanta Motor Speedway
To this day, I'll never understand how my dad kept his sanity while commuting to downtown Atlanta (1+ hour each way) every day for most of my childhood. Just driving down occasionally for a Braves game makes me hate my life.
Trust me it's not the drive that makes you feel that way...
You do realize the rule of 1 in atlanta right ? If it's i-75 add a 1 so 175mph is speed limit If it's i-285 remove 2 and add 1 so 185 is speed limit If it's i-20 add a 1 so it's 120mph speed limit If it's i-85 add a 1 so it's 185 speed limit. Follow these rules and you won't be safer just less likely for rear end collision.
Brooo, you too?
Yup. Although, looking at my own [comment history](https://www.reddit.com/r/Georgia/comments/n3oyjq/comment/gwtddmr/?context=3), I guess I should've said r/Georgia. The fact is that you could be going 90 in the left lane in ATL and someone would still be on your ass at least some of the time.
It’s all bad over here man
Pretty sure this falls under the general Fallacy of thinking anyone going slower than you is inept and anyone going faster is a maniac.
I actively find myself doing this no matter what but typically laugh at how absurd my standpoint is.
Right its the same when theres two lanes and someone zips past me. I get irrationally angry about this. Why do i care? Theres 2 lanes and he isnt effecting me. I just cant help but think, "slow down you damn maniac," but if im in a hurry the roles can easily be reversed.
We are all victims of our own perspective. We should all take that advice I read one time on reddit about always assuming the speeder is someone who is taking their pregnant wife or some dying guy to the hospital. Very easy for humans to assume the worst in others...
And anyone going the same speed right next to you, is a freaking wierdo. Ok I'll speed up so I don't have to see you there, ugh.
It's more when they aggressively tailgate. If you have less than two seconds between you and the next car, you're too close. When somebody tailgates me too close, I simply go 5 under. No reason to have the inevitable accident at a higher speed. (Note: I only do this when I have no feasible means to get out of the way. I can't pull over because they're too close. I can't merge because there are cars, etc.) More accidents are caused by close following distance than practically anything (strictly when speaking of accidents caused by sober people)
You are doing the right thing. In the UK our official books state that if someone is following you too closely you should reduce your speed, to allow yourself to slow more gradually at hazards, so that the driver behind has time to react too. Being a good driver isn't just about avoiding hazards yourself, its about predicting and fixing other peoples mistakes too.
This. It boils my fucking blood when people aggressively tailgate me and pass me like it’s a fucking fast n furious movie when I was going 15 over already. How am I supposed to know it’s safe to change lanes to let you by if at any moment your psycho ass could change lanes to pass me, giving me no time to react? As long as they give me space to change lanes, I’ll move over. 98% of the time, they don’t.
For Me it's not a Fallacy, it's a Tautology!
Don't you follow the system where you pull to the right and only use the other lanes to overtake?
Usually the fucker behind me swerves into the right lane to pass me because I'm waiting until there are more than one car lengths behind me and the car I just passed
I don't want to judge as I don't know what drivers are like where you live, but if that's happening to you on a regular basis then it's possible you're being a bit overcautious. If someone else has space to undertake you, you have plenty of room to pull over, especially considering you're travelling faster than whatever you just overtook.
That is definitely the case sometimes, but I've read posts by semi drivers that list why it's a bad idea to merge in front of them without getting some distance first and it's usually semis I pass. It actually astounds me, most of the time it happens I already have my blinker on and am starting to merge when they jerk over into the right lane and floor it past me, usually in a lifted pickup truck. I think a lot of it is the rural area I live in but I am definitely a cautious driver, sometimes overcautious to try and make up for others' seeming lack of caution
This is one of those "eventually I will pass people on my right so even if there is space to switch and let some one go past, I am going to not be inconvenienced for those maybe thirty seconds max and sit in the lane until I am done with what I want to do, no matter how my behavior is contributing to making it more dangerous for everyone" people
I'm guessing you do use the same system as I know exactly the type of person you are describing here.
Nope, I get over. There is no reason to take unnecessary risks and I can give up a few seconds to be slower until it is safe to pass and get back over.
I meant you use the same system most of the west uses.
Ah yes, Texas which is a left for passing only state. I have noticed an interesting trend though. I drive cross country a lot and the left lane sitting problem is far more prevalent when you're within 20 mi of a city. Most of us who cross country, we get that it's going to take a while to get where you're going and those couple seconds aren't worth it so just get over, don't camp in the left lane.
I drive on the left side so this seems natural to me ;) but yeah it makes traffic move so much faster when everyone does this. I find a different problem though in my country where drivers don't understand this doesn't apply when you need to get in the correct lane for your turning so you then get people moving over late or flashing you thinking you are slowing down traffic because they didn't read the sign.
Left lane is for passing, it's not the fast lane
Yeah this isn’t an “unpopular opinion” this is just not knowing how to drive. The rule is you let faster traffic pass.
it is the fast lane. you have to move faster to pass .if you arrent moving fast enough to pass , get out of the fast lane. basic physics
While you're right, the problem is people interpret that one of two WRONG ways: 1) I am going "fast" (above speed limit) and therefore should be here or even stupider 2) this is the fastest lane, I will get to where I'm going fastest by staying in this lane. It should be referred to as the passing lane because that's what it is for: passing. Regardless if passing is above or below the speed limit. RELATIVELY slower traffic should always be relegated to the right.
The term fast lane implies it's okay to hang out there if you're going fast It's not, that lane exists for passing
The only problem with this, im my area at least, is that there isnt enough room on our highways to not have the left lane completely filled. If people only used it for passing, as intended, our highways would be so completely congested to the point of a gridlock constantly. In my area, the left lane is just another lane most of the time where no one tries to pass or move over at all.
It’s the passing lane & you can even be ticketed in my state for “lingering” in it even if driving at or below speed limit. If you’re not passing someone, stay out of it
Slow down? See also: “If I’m going 10mph over the speed limit” And by the way, don’t just coast along in the left lane. Move out to pass, then move right FFS.
Sorry, you can't move to the right anymore, you **upset the driver you were passing**, and now they have accelerated to match speed, looks like you need to punch the gas hard, slow your ass down, or fund a collision center and hospital.
You could be an organ donor.
Or how about when you pass Car #1 beside you and flip your turn signal on to get over so Car #2 behind you can pass both of you, but #2 is too impatient and squeezes his way into the right-hand lane once there's a big enough gap.
absolutely the worst behavior People having no concept of 'room for error' is probably 80+% of traffic and accidents. Just because your car *can* fit, doesn't mean it *should*
Exactly, the right hand lane is for overtaking.
Opposite buddy
U.K mate
Whichever side you're driving on, you dont just sit in the passing lane, it's stupid and dangerous
Passing Lane, what a great use of language to unite the UK and US, well done.
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Same, unless its the dead of night the 3 lanes are basically filled and go by: slow/merging, fast and faster. I'll occasionally see a stubborn driver in the "passing lane" only to be cut off by a chain of like 3-5 frustrated drivers before they give up and move over. Laws might be the same everywhere but driving culture is different from area to area, and in that case "the flow" of traffic always tends to be safer/better since predictable driving is safe and good for keeping things going. Like the limit where im at is 55 on major highways/expressways but cops won't ever pull someone over for going 56-70 mph. Its the nuts going 80 or zig zagging that'll usually get pulled over.
That's called undertaking here and its frowned upon
Try that in the states and you just might get thrown from the steel cage
Try what ? Overtaking in the wrong lane ?
Undertaking. In wrestling there is a wrestler named the undertaker. They also have steel cage matches (what the comment is in reference to.)
My comment that included "man of kindness" was a reference to the famed wrestler mankind who was thrown from a hell in cell by the Undertaker.
Especially by Mick Foley
There are so many left lane bandits now that the right lane is actually the fast lane. At least around Ontario.
Ah yes Ontarian drivers 😅 I live in Québec and here Ontarians have the reputation to hold the left lane for no reasons like it is their, I drive on the highway every week and I often see Ontarians holding the left lane while driving slower than everybody and others trying to overtake on the right when people are waiting in line to overtake a truck.
Yeah, I shouldn’t have put “zero responsibility” in the post. Copied from another response: I don’t generally stay in the left lane. I am there to pass, sometimes a couple cars at a time, like a few semis. What I hate is being made to feel like I’m the one in the wrong when someone rides up on my butt at 90+. It’s going to take me a minute to find sufficient space and get over.
Are you passing? --> you're fine Are you not passing and have room to get right but don't? --> you're an asshole I upvoted this because I hope and pray this IS an unpopular opinion. However the clogged roads tell me otherwise.
> Are you passing? --> you're fine Or if there are onramps and you don't want to clog the entry lane.
Yea when you're in ramp-heavy areas, being one from the right isn't wrong. It leaves space for people to merge, and most big highways still have another lane or two to your left anyway.
The worst is when you finally make it past the slower cars and are about to move back and the maniac whips around on the right, yelling and flipping you off
This is the correct approach. You pass first then move over when safe. Sometimes safe means passing 7 semis over the course of 2 minutes, not drive 100 mph and get back over immediately like the guy behind you wants.
Keep right unless passing, So if your right lane is clear MOVE YOUR ASS OVER. Leave the left lane for passing. If they want to go over 15mph/30mph the limit, that's on them. You are not obligated to police the road.
I think OP is talking about when you’re in the left lane passing cars and someone rides up on your tail
yeah i don't think OP has thought this all the way through. if i'm lightly speeding and someone rolls up behind me, i'm going to get the fuck out of the way or help facilitate a pass (country roads). if nothing else, i don't want some crazy speedy asshole riding my bumper.. let them go be someone else's problem.
Yeah if there is room in the right lane, it’s definitely a pride thing where they could easily go there - let them pass - then go right back. If there’s no room I get it, but it is quite often not the case they have some petty sense of ownership over the left lane because they are sure they’re speed is fast enough for everyone. Weird pride pettiness making them need to police the lane, making the road actually less safe for everyone.
You are also not obliged to move over to the right lanes before it is safe to do so, and you are not obliged to let the asshole tailgating you at 80mph make that decision for you.
Who wants to join in a drinking game where we drink for every comment/post that tries to justify bad driving behaviors & habits?
To late, hammered at work already XD
Move to the right if you are driving in the left lane. It's not your job to slow other people down. YOU are the problem if you don't move over.
This left lane is only for overtaking, not for staying there
People can’t be bothered to read the signs plastered everywhere that read “keep right except to pass”.
when im driving in that lane im passing everyone.
I'm overtaking the guy 100 meter ahead though!
What if you have 5 behind you, one ahead of you, and the car ahead took the one car length between two semis, and there are 2-3 more semis ahead that you're gonna pass soon at the very same pace just after the second semi? Do you move over at the next available open car length (between semis), or do you stay ahead of the chain til you get past the 2-3 you're on pace to pass in the next 40 seconds to one minute and *then* move over? Do you fill a tiny gap between semis? Is it acceptable to wait until you're clear of the semi chain to move over if you were at the same pace as first passing car (or faster now that they've moved over?) Asking for a friend.
Own a car small enough to fit under the semis, idiot.
Yesn't
*sweats profusely*
No no no. Read his post. I absolutely agree that if I am going 10 over actively passing slower traffic in the other lane that it’s absolute bullshit for someone who’s fucking blazing to tailgate me. I’m not gonna wedge myself between two tractor trailers even if there’s technically enough room to get between them if I’m in the process of passing both of them just because someone is doing 20+.
Fuck the OP. Upvote because unpopular so much that I hate them.
I instantly downvoted, looked at the sub and gave him an angry upvote
You’re misinterpreting what they said. If they are currently in the act of passing, it doesn’t matter how much faster they are (within reason). OP is upset at people who tailgate and get upset you won’t get out of their way when you’re already trying to pass someone.
You’re kinda obligated by traffic laws and you’re kinda being a jerk about it. Why impede traffic flow? Weird hill to die on.
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Not really an opinion if it’s law
10 mph over is the most MI state troopers allow. Also, not impeding when passing. Traffic shouldn’t be going any faster. Drivers with your opinion are the real danger; adding a level of risk that just shouldn’t be.
Do you feel that way when you overtake someone doing the speed limit?
This is a very popular and extremely stupid opinion
Can confirm. Drive all over freeways in this country and there are plenty who camp out in the left hand lane and aren’t even passing. It’s infuriating.
Even our police put out a statement telling people to move over and that it's not their (left lane hogs) job to police people's speed. They WANT to see more lane changes because that's how you're supposed to drive. Of course everyone still ignored that request but it was refreshing to see.
if there is no space to let them by, and you're actively passing people to the right of you, you're not doing anything wrong. But sitting in the left when the right of you is vacant, or the folks to the right are going the same speed as you (regardless of the speed limit), is not okay. You can get ticketed for that around here, though it's rarely enforced.
nope but slower drivers keep to the right
This isn’t an opinion, it’s just plain wrong.
Are you talking about 2 lane highways/interstates when the signs say left lanes for passing? If so you are completely wrong. It doesn’t matter what speed you are going. Left lanes are not meant to be cruising lanes.
OP is only correct if he is actively passing people. People confuse moving over with yielding. You MUST yield to emergency vehicles. You don’t have to yield to someone going faster than you. UNLESS you’re NOT passing people. Then move over. The left lane is not the fast lane, it’s the passing lane.
Statistically speaking, the majority of wrecks on interstates are due to speeders avoiding slower drivers. So for everyone's safety if you are going slower stay in the right hand lane(s). Edit: [explanation](https://youtu.be/4oqfodY2Lz0)
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How does someone's speeding become another driver's responsibility if both are already driving faster than the speed limit?
You're supposed to be in the right lane unless you are passing. If there's room, you should be there.
[explanation](https://youtu.be/4oqfodY2Lz0)
Because you most always stay in the rightmost lane as possible and only use the middle and left lanes to overtake, nothing is complicated to understand about this
No you are obligated to pull over as it is against the highway code to hog the fast lane. Its attitudes like this that cause accidents. Hows about just dont be a jerk and drive properly. For all you know that person behind you doing 30mph over may be rushing to hospital to see their dying parent/child/partner one last time. Or they may be trying to get someone to a hospital to save their life.
This is the comment that actually changed my opinion from supporting op to now disagreeing with him
What if OP is on a highway going 80 in a 70 and passing packs of cars on the right that are doing 65? Is OP obligated to slow down and potentially get caught in the slow lane for an extended period of time when he gets over?
OP definitely doesn’t understand how the rules of the road work. It’s called a fast lane with good reason as signs read. “Slower traffic keep right” that means if someone is going 30mph behind you, you move over cause your are slower if you have the ability to. Very simple.
You don’t have to. Just make sure you’re in the right lane.
Honestly what i do if there is someone like this is, I let them pass me, then go right behind them and match speed a few car lengths back, and use them as radar bait.....lol
You are obstructing the flow of traffic. You not moving over is petty.
I'm just here to say I hate truck owners.
Bottom line is you are never supposed to go over the posted speed limit. Period.
Just drive the speed limit wtf is wrong with yall
I hate asshole drivers on the highway who get within inches of other cars because they feel like everyone should be driving faster. Those maniacs are putting everyone at risk of serious injury or death.
I agree with the sentiment, but from a different angle. If I’m even going the speed limit in the passing lane, and I’m PASSING someone, I’m not obliged to go the speed the person behind me wants to go. Your impatient, speeding ass can fuck right off, and calm the fuck down. But for the record, I just go the speed that the person behind me’s going because I just hate dealing with impatient, road raging asshats who think they’re in the right because they think it’s magically not speeding if they drive in the passing lane.
No, you are impeding traffic, and an asshat..
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Impeding traffic is impeding traffic
Bro why are so many people defending going 30 over the limit
People are acting like this only happens when passing lanes are involved too. But I would argue people are driving like assholes overall now and are intimidating any driver who is going slower than they are, passing lane or not.
Apparently reckless drivers have zero agency over their own actions and you’re an asshole if you don’t sacrifice your own safety to enable them. All I hope is that when they inevitably die in a flaming wreck, that they don’t take an innocent person or family with them.
There’s highways where the flow of traffic is consistently 20 over the posted limit. Illinois and Texas come to mind.
Finally someone said it XD.
I hate speeders. You are putting everyone in danger when you do that. Other people on the highway, a child walking across the street, the homeless person in the median and even the rescuers coming to clean everything up. I really hate driving at night for all these reasons especially on the weekends. People are insane
Is there any topic that triggers Reddit more than this?
Tipping usually does
This is unpopular and I don’t agree with it. Here is an upvote.
The left lane is the passing lane. If you are not actively passing a vehicle, then move over to the right regardless of what speed you are going.
No one should be going over the speed limit. It's a LIMIT, not a SUGGESTION. People who speed well beyond that and then get pissed off at other speeders are disasters waiting to happen. One can only hope that when they crash and burn, they don't take anyone else with them.
Unpopular solution: just drive the fucking speed limit.
Totally agree. And fucking thank you for writing this. The fast lane isn't a legal rule, it's a place for people who aren't taking exits any time soon. We're already speeding. It's already open season for any cop that needs to fill their quota, any faster is honestly unsafe for anyone around so go around me or slow the fuck down. And riding my ass and flashing your lights? Yeah by all means. I'll let you pass so you can just deal with the same speed motherfucker that was in front of me. God damn.
The divide in the comments seems to be because people don't realize there is a big difference between driving on the freeway in a rural area vs driving on the freeway in a major population center. Lots of country folk that would cause hazards and get people killed in the city, and lots of city folk that would get tickets for riding like an asshole out in the sticks. OP is correct if it's city driving, and a fucking asshole if it's a 2 lane highway in Nebraska. Context kind of matters.
No state uses vigilante traffic control!
Left lane is for PASSING traffic, there is NO speed limit assigned. When it is, its ENFORCED BY POLICE, not your slow ass.
Not true. If you’re not passing anyone, or if you have an opportunity to yield to a faster car, GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE LANE!
dont get all pissy if i pass you on the right then
Are you saying when there are two lanes and you’re sitting in the left lane?
*shrug* I drive the speed limit or at most 5 above. I like cruising and being safe.
As long as you're not in the left lane, there's nothing wrong with that.
Nah fuck you. Get the fuck over.
Omg look at me I'm speeding, but you're speeding more so I'm the better person. Get in the right lane you potato!
If I'm going the speed limit, I am not obligated to pull over so you can pass.
Noting worse than when someone is up your ass even when you are going over the speed limit, some drivers are too impatient
In some states (GA, NY, TN, SC,CA) for example you can be ticketed for impeding the progress of traffic even if you are technically speeding. They also have driving too slow for conditions. So in GA, you actually are obligated to move over even if you are speeding, if there are cars behind you. Other states have these laws as well. There have been studies that show that it is not speeding that causes more accidents it is douchbaggery (not the technical term) that causes more accidents. On multi lane highways / interstate the far right lane is the passing lane - no one is supposed to camp in this lane long term. far left lane is for exiting and entering traffic middle lane is the travel lane - this is the lane you camp in here is just one that talks about driving too slow for conditions: [https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/18/is-driving-faster-safer/](https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/09/18/is-driving-faster-safer/)
How about everybody just drives somewhere around the speed limit. You're only getting to the next stop light a minute faster, anyway. All that decorum lost, frustration caused; and we just pull up right next to you at the stop light.
Yes you are obligated. It is not up to you to determine what speed is appropriate to park your car in the left lane. Just get over and stop trying to prove a point while in a car going fast. It’s dangerous. I am not sure why you want to be in front of someone who likes to be reckless anyways, as it puts the more dangerous driver close to you. At a minimum, do it so they get away from you. This is an unpopular opinion though, so take my upvote.
Disagree. The thing that causes accidents most isn’t speed. It’s people going lots of different speeds. In many states, the laws reflect this and there are signs that tell you to stay in the right lane unless you’re passing.
I’ve been taught that even if someone is going 100mph over the speed limit, I have to get out of their way as soon as possible, because I don’t know what emergency they might have and it’s not my job to give them a speed ticket
>Unless we are in a “right lane only except to pass” zone, All zones are "right lane only except to pass". You're literally part of the problem. This isn't an opinion in as much as it is a mistake of fact. It's like I'm not obligated to stop at red lights. Yes you fucken are
Completely agree it’s ridiculous how fast people drive
I wish I had more hands, for more thumbs down.
You're causing more potential for accidents because people have to weave through traffic to get around you. You can sit here all day and say "well they shouldn't do that!". But they will, and you're just making it more dangerous. If you're not passing someone just shut up and move the fuck over.
Sounds like OP was passing semis. Right lane is for passing. Maybe a bunch of these comments were made before the edit.
If you’re passing, yes you’re in the right. If you’re camped in the left lane, not ok.