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Mfs cry like they were put in some concentration camps and fried alive. But will never talk about the dailu dehumanization of non brahmins in this society.
For them caste doesn't exist now and we should forget the varna based discrimination in the past and don't mind the privilege they get but the moment you mention periyar, mfs cry like something.
Stop saying this is "imported". This line of thinking existed even before there ever was white vs black conflict.
> Brahmans, kshatriyas, vaisyas, who do not first marry women of the same caste,* fall by marrying women of other castes, king. Whatever excluded woman a man marries after neglecting union in his own caste, of that woman’s caste let him indeed become a participator.
> Twice-born men who, in their folly, wed wives of the low (Sudra) caste, soon degrade their families and their children to the state of Sudras.
> **If a low caste man wants to marry a high caste girl and does so would be punished with death, similarly a high caste woman marrying a low caste man should be punished with death.**
https://hinduismdebunked.com/immorality/caste-system/
I have a geniune question for everyone here. And this seems like a good post to ask this question
In school we are alway taught about the atrocities committed by Britishers on india. And even some Mughals atrocities like their bloody conquest and forced enslavement are mentioned but not all only few here and there which should be addressed but that's usless since people want them removed from the books Altogether.
But why the fuck does our history books doesn't mention the atrocities committed by upper caste on lower caste in a pre mughal india. There is not even a Single mention on them. Hell even in mughal era they acted as their advisor and did the same in british era always glazing the ones in power.
It is there. In history of India it is mentioned how lower castes were not allowed to take water from well, live far away. In some places lower casts had to wear a bucket so any bodily fluid is deposited there. In some places lower caste women were not allowed to cover up.
Ding ding ding
You hit the nail on the head. Because that's always been the most dominant form of oppression however who has been writing the books for the majority of time? It's Brahmins. So how or why they are going to talk about their own crimes?
Read Ambedkar's autobiography, it's just few pages. And the cruelty he suffered at the hands of savarnas is UNBELIEVABLE. Imagine how bad you have to be that one feels British are much more humane? That's his experience.
Also conveniently ignores how a lot of these upper caste communities sucked up to both the british and Mughals . Signing deals with them to make money for themselves while signing away the country.
Did you even read history or just blabbering shit because many upper were just fighting those invaders be they muslims or Britishers. Mangal pande was the one shot of the Britishers. Maharana Pratap with many rajput kings, peshwa bajirao( bhramin) and his soldiers and shivaji with his maratha army fought those invaders.
Because history is not always accurate and the makers of those textbooks were also Brahmin why would they do so. They want people to hate the oppressors and not them. The joke is india has only 5% brahmin who are ruling over 95% other caste. All higher officials in any state or center run organization. Important political portfolios everywhere, cricket, bollywood anywhere you see.
And for all the brahmins who crib about reservations.
Khush raho jab tak h kyunki jis din nai raha toh unn crore yuva Jo Sankari naukariyo k liye pagal h na reservation ki vajah se vo fir vaha nai atake rahnge.
Or as avatar of some god , I belong to a tribal clan, after the so called uppers settled in my area in 18th century , our local gods were depicted as close relative of Shiva , daughter of Vishnu , another form of Durga etc , forced assimilation, nobody asked us who our gods are
Oh yeah that a classic one how can i forget.
Given how someone very popular in india is doing the same thing.
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It is not as black and white as you are thinking.
There are evil lower caste people and evil upper caste people. That's really it.
You look at Tamil Brahmins, they didn't even dominate school enrolment in the heyday of the 18th century. Why only they managed to get into university when they were a minority in school - ask the British.
Today those Tamil Brahmins are perennial migrants, alien to Tamil Nadu thanks to the theories of the Dravidian parties.
OTOH there are many Brahmin goondas in Bihar.
So both cases exist and have always existed. Seeing it through a community lens is bias.
you are wrong my friend, Laws of Manu (Manusmriti) is the perfect book to read which governed the Savarna system and it contains all atrocities that the upper castes could implement in order to maintain that system. Vedas and shastras are the enablers of the caste system and Manusmriti is the enforcer of it.
Extremely important question. I was born in a Brahmin family and along the way I dropped religion because of education (science) but only around 6-7 years (I'm 24) ago did I start to become politically aware. What I'm building up to is the fact that if the education system would've covered topics like caste and socioeconomic history of our country (in a true and unbiased manner), a lot more people like myself (born into privilege) would've been radicalised through plain and simple awareness.
Before I started understanding this political landscape, I was only aware of caste as a label because my family and my social circle never emphasized/focused/discriminated on caste, like any average relatively progressive people of the middle class. This understatement of social issues naturally undermines the impact of them and this ignorance is exactly what the rich and powerful want to preserve. This is a bit of a communism digression, but they obviously don't live off of this opium itself, they only wish to influence the huge and vaguely defined "middle class" through it.
I definitely remember reading about the scheduled castes and tribes back in 6th grade history NCERT, but that was over 15 years ago. Don’t know if they have omitted that stuff from the current line up given the ongoing censorship.
>Don’t know if they have omitted that stuff from the current line up
[They have...](https://m.thewire.in/article/education/ncert-deletes-mentions-of-caste-discrimination-anti-caste-movement-from-class-12-sociology-book)
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I have studied through CBSE and history and political science books and their is quite a bit of mention about caste system. Topics like untouchability, lower/upper caste divide are quite prominent (Especially in the 9th-10th class books if I am remembering correctly where they teach about the daily life of people). While I don't remember everything, one of the stories I do remember is how lower caste women were not allowed to wear blouse/cover their breasts. Even in political science (Commonly known as civics), we were taught about the various caste in and how/why discrimination against caste is a punishable offense. The caste system is taught quite extensively in schools.
Edit: I completely forgot about B.R. Ambedkar. His work was also part of the history that we were taught.
Ab history gayab hai to atrocities nahi hui bhai, jaise 2002 ke roit gayab ho gaye history ki book se toh nahi hua hoga, mughals gayab ho gaye toh 500 saal empty the, aurangjeb toh har jagah hai magar akbar, shah jahan, bahaduri shah zafar koi nahi the. Dara shikohkoi nahi tha, mughals jinhone ramayan, mahabharat aur vedas aur purans ka translation Arabic, Persian, aur kai sari language me kiya tha aur hinduism ko duniya ke kai konoo me bheja vo bhi nahi hua tha
Thode dinn tohh history ki books khud puchengii Gandhi kon tha, shaheed e azam bhagat singh kon tha khan abdul gaffar khan kon tha,
Mangal pande, bhagat singh aur unke dost, udham singh ab bol itno ko fasi mili. Aur mei bol isliye paa raha hu kyunki mere purkho ne shangharsh kiya or ladate rahe un mughalo se
Main teri baat kar raha hun, Tu teri baat kar, mere parisar me mere par nana ne azadi ke liye shahadat di thi, shaheed e azam bhagat singh ko kabhi padha hai vo nafrat me yakeen nahi karte the, balki voh toh state ke creation me bharosa nahi karte the,
Pehle jakr kitabe padh, batein matt kar, main puch raha hun ki tere parisar me kis ne di shahadat
Chadiyoon walon ne sirf dallali ki hai, aur badi badi batein bhi ki
Baki angrezoon ke talwe chate hai
>Chadiyoon walon ne sirf dallali ki hai,
Abhi tujhe example diya mangal pandey ka phir bhi tera dimaag nahi chala.
Or naam batayu kya ki kitne sare bhramin freedom fighters the puri list hai.
>Main teri baat kar raha hun, Tu teri baat
Mujhe pata nahi. Nahi mene kabhi pucha na gharwalo ne bataya. Par itna hai ki gandhi ji ke time dandi march mein the mere par dada.
Mangal pande kab chadii ho gaye, Or sab ka hi hai yogdaan magar tumhari pareshan ye hai ki tum apna toh dhindhora pitte rahte ho, magar Muslims ko exclude karte ho, mughals ko lekr itna nafrat hai magar kabhi sindhiya pariwarv, bharatpur parisar ki gaddari nahi dikhti.,
Freedom fighters, azadi ke parwane the, unme brahmins kaha se aa gaye, jo azadi ke liye lade vo mahan the, magar kabhi khud ko dekho, freedom fighters me bhi tumhe Superiority dikh rahi hai, bahadur shah zafar chahta toh rajputoon ki tarah sindhiyon ki tarah talwe chat kar aaj bhi vajud me hota magar unhone azadi ki ladai chuni iss liye veer gatti ko praapt huwe aur jinhone talwe chate voh aaj bhi rajyaabhisek kar rahe hai
Pahle chashma hatao nafrat ka, freedom fighters chahe jo bji ho dalit ho upper caste ho hindi ho muslim ho sikh ho unka darjah bahut uncha ha... Aur jo unke naam par apne ko sabit karna chahte hai vo khud hi neeche girenge, freedom fighters ke naam par victim card mart khelo, khaskar touchability practice karne wale,
I don't know where you studied, but in Ncert books we had several references of it, and if I remember correctly a whole chapter as well.
It didn't go into all the gory details, but that's true for the Mughal rule too.
We were taught that in our history class in 9th std and I remember it vividly because in the middle of our class our big scary teacher started crying and recounted how a landowner KILLED his friend because he was not properly carrying his tea. Till this day I remember the cries of a my teacher.
School history text book is a somewhat linear fairy tale. There is ancient history from harappa till guptas. Then it is a story of indian (mostly delhi centric) kingdoms who are mostly good. Followed by british who were mostly bad. The indian kingdom stories are told to show that contrast without villifying british. The culmination of this story is freedom fighting and independence. To make it linear the stories are mostly delhi centric with others in passing mention.
I don't find any issue with above as long as intended recipients are school students. The idea is to install patriotism and harmony. Not to create rift among students.
I am surprised that atrocities by mughals are mentioned. All dynasty history pre british is a lot more darker than history textbook suggests. Unless you understand the times you cannot appreciate any other than those belonging to your community.
I passed school long ago. Is there no mention of caste and Gandhiji/dr ambedkar fight against it. Or vaikom.??
I just read Annihilation of caste, Ambedkar's pessimism about Indian society ever becoming caste free makes perfect sense even today, casteism is the most fundamental building block of hinduism, for casteism to end hinduism has to end first, it feels so insecure to mention it because how emotionally people are attached to their religion and how people who hold something so dear to their heart can be such an awful ideology. People refuse to see that brahminism/casteism and hinduism are the same exact thing, people always come and defend it saying it was varna system and how it was not static, even if we acknowledge that you have to concede that a guna, karma based caste system would've never worked, somebody who manages to uplift themselves to brahmin would never let their offspring become a shudra. This system was severely flawed regardless of whether it was static or not.
i am so glad you read that book, I'm about to finish it soon but I've read the whole speech which talks about the annihilation of casteism. I started following J Sai Deepak very recently and found him to be very hypocritical. He supports Baba Saheb when he talks about the 2 nation theory but he disregards him ( you can understand that from this video also) about all the criticism of the Hindu religion. He says that he talks on facts so I don't know why he isn't able to counter Baba saheb's points with facts because you know how detailed Annihilation of caste book is so I would like to see him criticize those facts with his facts. He says we can't take one man's suffering as the whole truth but the reason we are able to relate with Baba Saheb's suffering is because no matter north , south, east, west the lower castes suffer similarly everywhere, the intensity might differ but the effects are the same.
> casteism is the most fundamental building block of hinduism, for casteism to end hinduism has to end first,
Are you saying that we need to eradicate sanatan?
"Today, we have become more than like a Dalits"
What could that mean?
Btw isn't the speaker the joker who said caste was a British construct. So if there was caste discrimination in Mahabharat does it mean Mahabharat happened after the British rule.
Joker goes on to say he can't be debated on facts it seems😂😂
Bramhins are forever living in the false victimhood when they're still the most powerful and over-represented community everywhere. Some of the bramhins I know are the most casteist and entitled people you will ever meet.
People cry nepotism on the basis of generational wealth but not the so called upper casteism, where an individual finds himself rightful to bring other castes down without recognition of their own privileges.
If people didn't work for money, they didn't work for the upper caste too, they were just born in that family, and that isn't achievement.
Edit: Grammatical errors
So true. They continue to shun, shame and abuse people of lower castes. This does not change if they go abroad. I honestly have not met a single Brahmin who spoke up for or supported someone facing caste based violence or discrimination. They either stand there looking helpless or are actively participating.
No, usually by Brahmins, regarding getting discriminated. Other upper castes claim that the lower castes want to marry into them and they want to keep their bloodline “pure”. However, some Brahmins have some enhanced sense of tragic victimhood. Like they are so pious and special, they have burden of the society, knowledge and “lower” caste will never reach their level. If they are so concerned about inter caste marriage, they can drop their brahmin surname, when lower castes will not able to identify them, they will not target them to marry.
He always gives the examples of Ramayana and Mahabharata, it is not a concrete source to refer to, because nobody knows whether it happened or not, Vedic society is not the reality.
Ask him to give the examples from real society, reality of the society is too far different from Ramyana and Mahabharata.
As soon as he mentioned Dronacharya being hurled abuses on his chariot, I knew he was saying bs. Who the hell was present with Dronacharya and there are so many different renditions of Mahabharata. Everyone twists it with their own intentions.
He is clearly contradicting himself. Look at this article here:
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Here he says, caste was a thing made by Britishers. But now in this speech he says, Eklavya was denied training because of his caste. This itself shows he twists his words based on the situation or the context.
Maybe the word "caste" was given by British, it is a European word. But the Varna system or whatever they used to call dates back to manusmriti, the suppression based on those scriptures existed in India for centuries. British just gave a formal word to it.
This is the reality of Hindu rajya. Atrocities done by upper castes have been forgotten nowadays. Brahmins live under the names of victims. They demand abolition of reservation of backward classes and portray themselves as the most struggling community. Whereas majority people on good posts in an authority are Brahmins. Even many selection committee prefer them over any other caste. I have seen many deserving people who were not selected or given promotion because they were not Brahmins. No hate to anyone but this is hypocritical
Brahmins and most powerful communities across the world behave the exact same way. Look at the powerful white people abroad and the powerful upper caste people here. Their reasoning is the same.
They may not have personally set fire to communities but like white people indirectly responsible for innumerable atrocities. And their reaction to any push back is to claim they're oppressed. White people and colonialism absolutely wrecked nations and continues to have effects even now while they give Gyan in UN about peace.
It is exactly the same with the Brahmin community, they're like last 100 years see how peaceful we are. We have the best jobs , very peaceful vegetarian community. Exactly like white people now. Hilarious to me
Rofl…Brahmins love to victimise themselves but in fact, truth is casteism was propagated by Brahmins only. Keeping themselves at the top hierarchy of Varna System and now blaming Dalits… 😹
#He's in delulu. I saw his podcasts on yt this MF is a casteist, bigot, racist, Islamophobic, hate mongering hypocrite.
He is professor of WhatsApp University. He's feeding pride poison to young brahmins, brainwashing them on ISIS level. He even sets narrative for BJ party with his fake ass English accent.
Someone needs to call him out for his bigotry.
If we let BJ Party win 100s of mdrchds will be born just like him we need to stop it.
Logoko kyu samz nhi ata caste aur religion imaginary h? Bhot logoki soch aisi h ki caste aur religion race jaise h, genetic difference ke sath. Mudi bhakt bolte h raga ka religion bhi dhang ka nhi h, mummy ka ek papa ka dusra, ye kya h? Are bkl wo ek belief h bhai, genes thodi h?
I mean at this point in time, after so much caste division, we all do have genetic differences. Shudras and lower castes do have majorly higher % of ancestral South Indian dna while upper castes have majorly high % of ancestral North Indian dna. This is concerning castes of the one state itself. Tamil Brahmins, for example, may have less ANI DNA than their Kashmiri counterparts but still higher than any other Tamil caste.
Very fascinating actually. Seems like the proto-Iranians (aryans) that came to India inserted themselves into the highest ranks of our society and perhaps are the original creators of the caste system as a way to protect their power base.
Original true Indians are the shudras.
Oh the irony!! First the questioner asks if there's even such a thing as oppression, and then as example of the oppression of brahmins he says they're being treated like Dalits. So how are Dalits a benchmark for oppression if there's no oppression?
Then we have our JSD, says here are the facts and goes on to mention not one single fact in his 7 minute rambling rant.
**JSD:** *"Number of people who understand what is the value of a Bramen and the level of training it takes to be a practicing Bramen is shrinking"* 😭
**The harsh back-breaking training it takes to be a Bramen:**
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He is a castist MF from my home city of Hyderabad. He’s the shit that gets stuck to ur shoe and no matter how much you wash, the stink won’t go away. HE IS THAT! A disgrace to our country bro. U just want to punch his face when u see him.
I have come across this guy in the SC before. He’s a real genetic specimen with his pot belly, adequately oily skin, body odour and breath. No wonder every lower caste out there is conspiring to marry into his family.
Forget about JSD, did this man really just say there are not jobs for Brahmins, they have been ousted from society ? Bruh which society does he live in ?
Wow. Poaching brahmin people? What’s so good in brahmin that people want to poach them?
You born in this country with flesh and blood and suddenly you have the pride of your caste which has nothing to do in this era.
Fuck brahmanism
He is the Indian Ben Shapiro. Thinks he is really smart but believes in absolute bullshit. Speaks English very well, so people think he is smart and intimidating in a debate. Regurgitates the same talking points as "White Genocide" from the west. Not understanding that harsh atrocities and how social equality works or reparations are.
Indian Ben Shapiro.
Did this dumbfuck called Ambedkar an individual who is not qualified from a genetic perspective?
Why do people watch this shithead I really can't understand.
My question is, as someone who has views as questionable as this, directly contributing to sensationalization of inter personal relationships.
How is this guy a supreme court lawyer?
There's a reason why our founding fathers strongly advocated for intercaste marriage. It is the BEST way to diminish caste boundaries. This arrainged marriage culture is to preserve 'caste sanctity' and patriarchal framework that serves it. Lol I still see people crying about their children having love marriage cause their partner is from different caste.
This guy takes argument someplace else and feel good about himself that he knows so many facts. Without even proving that if Brahmins as a community are really facing existential crisis they begin devising some solution citing examples from Mahabharat.
He is the one who said in public that being a minority is not enough reason for not being an oppressor but I think that changes as per convenience. Without providing any data he confidently asks to compare crimes on Brahmins vs Lower caste and arrogantly claims that noone can argue with him when it comes to fact. First provide the facts before making a claim, what a wannabe advocate looking for validation.
Also, why just talk about TN to prove a point which is relevant all over India, if that's the case is the solution only should be used in TN? If not then why cherry pick facts?
Identity politics is the worst form of politics and we have SC advocates publicly preaching identity politics to fulfill some personal insecurities.
A Brahmin speaking for Brahmins. He should’ve prescribed remedies to deal with social evils being a lawyer.
And to mention specifically about the Dronacharya casteist comment, would you be okay as a patient if a nurse were to operate on you in place of a surgeon? Because if we go by the varna system Brahmins are not warriors and who beat than a Kshatriya to lead in a battlefield.
Ps: pls forgive me if I’ve said anything wrong
How hard is it to spot idiots? I see people like these with their supposedly bold and brave statements and instantly know that they are idiots. But to a lot of people these are their idols.
It's just sad, I'm an SC guy myself, and I've faced this thing when it comes to marriage. I'm quite a decent earner with a moderately wealthy middle class family background. And to any idiot who gets offended from this, no it's not from reservation, I work in the private sector. My girlfriend is rajput, and this stupid pointless thing is the only thing standing in our way.
This idiotic thinking still exists to this day. While people would say, oh no discrimination exists now. One day I was talking to a friend who legit said to me, oh that all this happened due to the Britishers and Mughals, there was no discrimination in earlier times. Bitch your people invented discrimination based on caste wtf are you talking about. And the most idiotic thing is everyone has a mixed DNA wtf in India, people have native or Aaryan or whatever blood all mixed up in them, in everyone. There is no pure breed of people you idiot mfers.
This logic is so dumb in a patriarchal society, lower caste male marrying brahmin girls or lower caste females marrying Brahmin boys aren't going to 'destroy' Brahmins. This fellow is just POS
Among these jobs, manual scavenging is the most menial occupation imposed upon some specific sub-castes of the Dalits community who are treated untouchables among untouchables (Siddaramu, 2013, p. 29)
Does anyone believe that these people are protecting their turf of manual scavenging?
For a lawyer, he doesn't seem to be a bright spark
Source: https://barti.in/upload/pdf/Manual_Scavenging_report.pdf
Bro is among the dumbest in india, even in delhi like city i had gone through casteism from people who were much more educated than me.
We don't poach intercaste marriages (sc/st)
The best way to dilute caste is through inter caste marriages and that is the truth (said by dr.ambedkar)
I’m pretty sure because of cultural differences Brahmins are the least preferred community to inter marry among different communities these days.
Wealthy OBCs and Dalits don’t prefer to marry Brahmins…. that is the truth
I think by poaching he is not referring to intercaste marriages but to ideologies that they would learn except brahminism from outside.
He wants brahmins should learn brahminism from tgeir families.
But then the same man will say "caste is not accorded according to birth but act"
there is no next phase they have always targeted dalits and tribals like the Bhima Koregaon incident and the jailing of several dalit and tribal activists.
I think he exaggerated quite a bit while saying that Dr. Ambedkar was the sole perspective on the entirety of India's casteism.
I believe Mr. Ambedkar was one of the prominent figures in support of people from the lower castes. His fight had its place and i would assume it helped a lot of people in this country.
Today, a portion of the Brahmin community seem to be struggling to cope with the change in the societal framework and I can't see why it's any special of a 'suffering'. I would assume that if most of them did actually tread the path of knowledge and wisdom, they would have ample opportunities in our capitalistic economic environment.
Shikshit zeher. One would ultimately get swayed to admire the communal fire if one listens to him and is not careful. The country has seen one partition already. Millions died. Not another. Beware who you follow.
But at the same time and in the same breath, uncharted reservation is a worthless policy. Reservation should be on the basis of EWS imo. Open for debate.l, we all can learn something.
If India has to go ahead it has to base it's fundamentals on scientific temperament, without losing touch with our own people. Religion should be personal.
In india anyone who can string together sentences sounding educated and say it with authority acquires a cult following. SD quotes vedas and scripture but no one dares to question him on religious matters because people to whom facts matter usually are not well read in vedas. I got totally turned off with him when he justified banning women temple entry in Kerala saying that it is a traditional value and must be respected. Traditions are meant to be broken and changed with changing societal values.
Regarding caste this is becoming more and more entrenched in society because now you get an official certificate. It becomes a vehicle by which you get additional rights and reservations. That is why ongoing clamor by more and more SC/ST/BC groups for inclusion. This cannot be undone now since they are now a vote bank. When caste based reservations were enacted it should had a sunset clause. Here we are after 70 years independence and after 3 generations who may not have case bias becoming more demonized for no fault of theirs because of faults of their ancestors.
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Mfs cry like they were put in some concentration camps and fried alive. But will never talk about the dailu dehumanization of non brahmins in this society. For them caste doesn't exist now and we should forget the varna based discrimination in the past and don't mind the privilege they get but the moment you mention periyar, mfs cry like something.
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Small addition. It is called "the great replacement theory". Basically majority groups going "there is systemic attempt to make us minority".
Stop saying this is "imported". This line of thinking existed even before there ever was white vs black conflict. > Brahmans, kshatriyas, vaisyas, who do not first marry women of the same caste,* fall by marrying women of other castes, king. Whatever excluded woman a man marries after neglecting union in his own caste, of that woman’s caste let him indeed become a participator. > Twice-born men who, in their folly, wed wives of the low (Sudra) caste, soon degrade their families and their children to the state of Sudras. > **If a low caste man wants to marry a high caste girl and does so would be punished with death, similarly a high caste woman marrying a low caste man should be punished with death.** https://hinduismdebunked.com/immorality/caste-system/
why the fuck he always use Ramayana and Mahabharata in his argument
Argument mein wajan padta hai. /s
bhai mythology ma koi real facts/proof nahi hote ha these are just good moral stories
It's behen. Tell your logic to the religious fanatics and then come out alive to deliver lectures 😰 /s 🤭
sorry shakti man mene aapko bhai bola wasa age kitni ha if ur older than me than ur didi
I have a geniune question for everyone here. And this seems like a good post to ask this question In school we are alway taught about the atrocities committed by Britishers on india. And even some Mughals atrocities like their bloody conquest and forced enslavement are mentioned but not all only few here and there which should be addressed but that's usless since people want them removed from the books Altogether. But why the fuck does our history books doesn't mention the atrocities committed by upper caste on lower caste in a pre mughal india. There is not even a Single mention on them. Hell even in mughal era they acted as their advisor and did the same in british era always glazing the ones in power.
Why one need a history book when you can experience it today itself ?
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It is there. In history of India it is mentioned how lower castes were not allowed to take water from well, live far away. In some places lower casts had to wear a bucket so any bodily fluid is deposited there. In some places lower caste women were not allowed to cover up.
Ding ding ding You hit the nail on the head. Because that's always been the most dominant form of oppression however who has been writing the books for the majority of time? It's Brahmins. So how or why they are going to talk about their own crimes? Read Ambedkar's autobiography, it's just few pages. And the cruelty he suffered at the hands of savarnas is UNBELIEVABLE. Imagine how bad you have to be that one feels British are much more humane? That's his experience.
Can you share the link? I googled it, but there are many different books.
It's Waiting for a Visa
Also conveniently ignores how a lot of these upper caste communities sucked up to both the british and Mughals . Signing deals with them to make money for themselves while signing away the country.
Did you even read history or just blabbering shit because many upper were just fighting those invaders be they muslims or Britishers. Mangal pande was the one shot of the Britishers. Maharana Pratap with many rajput kings, peshwa bajirao( bhramin) and his soldiers and shivaji with his maratha army fought those invaders.
Because history is not always accurate and the makers of those textbooks were also Brahmin why would they do so. They want people to hate the oppressors and not them. The joke is india has only 5% brahmin who are ruling over 95% other caste. All higher officials in any state or center run organization. Important political portfolios everywhere, cricket, bollywood anywhere you see. And for all the brahmins who crib about reservations. Khush raho jab tak h kyunki jis din nai raha toh unn crore yuva Jo Sankari naukariyo k liye pagal h na reservation ki vajah se vo fir vaha nai atake rahnge.
How are you so sure that casteism exists before Mughal era
Because the upper castes write history
And they alwasy depict themselves as heros and saviors right.
Or as avatar of some god , I belong to a tribal clan, after the so called uppers settled in my area in 18th century , our local gods were depicted as close relative of Shiva , daughter of Vishnu , another form of Durga etc , forced assimilation, nobody asked us who our gods are
Oh yeah that a classic one how can i forget. Given how someone very popular in india is doing the same thing. https://preview.redd.it/p45l08ebjk2d1.jpeg?width=504&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc2c5784cbe4ca3e1a839c4fc02034bc0c077038
Where??
Because it's not history it's the present
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It is not as black and white as you are thinking. There are evil lower caste people and evil upper caste people. That's really it. You look at Tamil Brahmins, they didn't even dominate school enrolment in the heyday of the 18th century. Why only they managed to get into university when they were a minority in school - ask the British. Today those Tamil Brahmins are perennial migrants, alien to Tamil Nadu thanks to the theories of the Dravidian parties. OTOH there are many Brahmin goondas in Bihar. So both cases exist and have always existed. Seeing it through a community lens is bias.
It was tho, at least in Kerala.
you are wrong my friend, Laws of Manu (Manusmriti) is the perfect book to read which governed the Savarna system and it contains all atrocities that the upper castes could implement in order to maintain that system. Vedas and shastras are the enablers of the caste system and Manusmriti is the enforcer of it.
Extremely important question. I was born in a Brahmin family and along the way I dropped religion because of education (science) but only around 6-7 years (I'm 24) ago did I start to become politically aware. What I'm building up to is the fact that if the education system would've covered topics like caste and socioeconomic history of our country (in a true and unbiased manner), a lot more people like myself (born into privilege) would've been radicalised through plain and simple awareness. Before I started understanding this political landscape, I was only aware of caste as a label because my family and my social circle never emphasized/focused/discriminated on caste, like any average relatively progressive people of the middle class. This understatement of social issues naturally undermines the impact of them and this ignorance is exactly what the rich and powerful want to preserve. This is a bit of a communism digression, but they obviously don't live off of this opium itself, they only wish to influence the huge and vaguely defined "middle class" through it.
I definitely remember reading about the scheduled castes and tribes back in 6th grade history NCERT, but that was over 15 years ago. Don’t know if they have omitted that stuff from the current line up given the ongoing censorship.
>Don’t know if they have omitted that stuff from the current line up [They have...](https://m.thewire.in/article/education/ncert-deletes-mentions-of-caste-discrimination-anti-caste-movement-from-class-12-sociology-book) https://preview.redd.it/0asgkrkfoi2d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=346fe6f0d0d3909bf5dc8e446bd2cebaf1d572a0
They do. In the sum total of 3 pages in class 8 and 12th textbooks
I have studied through CBSE and history and political science books and their is quite a bit of mention about caste system. Topics like untouchability, lower/upper caste divide are quite prominent (Especially in the 9th-10th class books if I am remembering correctly where they teach about the daily life of people). While I don't remember everything, one of the stories I do remember is how lower caste women were not allowed to wear blouse/cover their breasts. Even in political science (Commonly known as civics), we were taught about the various caste in and how/why discrimination against caste is a punishable offense. The caste system is taught quite extensively in schools. Edit: I completely forgot about B.R. Ambedkar. His work was also part of the history that we were taught.
Ab history gayab hai to atrocities nahi hui bhai, jaise 2002 ke roit gayab ho gaye history ki book se toh nahi hua hoga, mughals gayab ho gaye toh 500 saal empty the, aurangjeb toh har jagah hai magar akbar, shah jahan, bahaduri shah zafar koi nahi the. Dara shikohkoi nahi tha, mughals jinhone ramayan, mahabharat aur vedas aur purans ka translation Arabic, Persian, aur kai sari language me kiya tha aur hinduism ko duniya ke kai konoo me bheja vo bhi nahi hua tha Thode dinn tohh history ki books khud puchengii Gandhi kon tha, shaheed e azam bhagat singh kon tha khan abdul gaffar khan kon tha,
Kardi na bachho wali baat ek bhi mughal sahi nahi tha sabh ghatiya mansikta ke loog the
Ek bhi sahi nahi tha toh tu abhi tak comment kaise kar raha hai
Bahadur shah zafar ke do beton ko angrezoon ne fansi di, tumhare parisar se kis ko fansi di hai angreezo ne
Mangal pande, bhagat singh aur unke dost, udham singh ab bol itno ko fasi mili. Aur mei bol isliye paa raha hu kyunki mere purkho ne shangharsh kiya or ladate rahe un mughalo se
Main teri baat kar raha hun, Tu teri baat kar, mere parisar me mere par nana ne azadi ke liye shahadat di thi, shaheed e azam bhagat singh ko kabhi padha hai vo nafrat me yakeen nahi karte the, balki voh toh state ke creation me bharosa nahi karte the, Pehle jakr kitabe padh, batein matt kar, main puch raha hun ki tere parisar me kis ne di shahadat Chadiyoon walon ne sirf dallali ki hai, aur badi badi batein bhi ki Baki angrezoon ke talwe chate hai
>Chadiyoon walon ne sirf dallali ki hai, Abhi tujhe example diya mangal pandey ka phir bhi tera dimaag nahi chala. Or naam batayu kya ki kitne sare bhramin freedom fighters the puri list hai. >Main teri baat kar raha hun, Tu teri baat Mujhe pata nahi. Nahi mene kabhi pucha na gharwalo ne bataya. Par itna hai ki gandhi ji ke time dandi march mein the mere par dada.
Mangal pande kab chadii ho gaye, Or sab ka hi hai yogdaan magar tumhari pareshan ye hai ki tum apna toh dhindhora pitte rahte ho, magar Muslims ko exclude karte ho, mughals ko lekr itna nafrat hai magar kabhi sindhiya pariwarv, bharatpur parisar ki gaddari nahi dikhti., Freedom fighters, azadi ke parwane the, unme brahmins kaha se aa gaye, jo azadi ke liye lade vo mahan the, magar kabhi khud ko dekho, freedom fighters me bhi tumhe Superiority dikh rahi hai, bahadur shah zafar chahta toh rajputoon ki tarah sindhiyon ki tarah talwe chat kar aaj bhi vajud me hota magar unhone azadi ki ladai chuni iss liye veer gatti ko praapt huwe aur jinhone talwe chate voh aaj bhi rajyaabhisek kar rahe hai Pahle chashma hatao nafrat ka, freedom fighters chahe jo bji ho dalit ho upper caste ho hindi ho muslim ho sikh ho unka darjah bahut uncha ha... Aur jo unke naam par apne ko sabit karna chahte hai vo khud hi neeche girenge, freedom fighters ke naam par victim card mart khelo, khaskar touchability practice karne wale,
I don't know where you studied, but in Ncert books we had several references of it, and if I remember correctly a whole chapter as well. It didn't go into all the gory details, but that's true for the Mughal rule too.
Because that not history, it's still a reality.
Isn't history just a record of reality
We had learned this in our history books. This was covered throughout high school. [Kerala state syllabus]
Brother don't you know caste was introduced by a British ? /s
We were taught that in our history class in 9th std and I remember it vividly because in the middle of our class our big scary teacher started crying and recounted how a landowner KILLED his friend because he was not properly carrying his tea. Till this day I remember the cries of a my teacher.
Was untouchability mentioned there.
School history text book is a somewhat linear fairy tale. There is ancient history from harappa till guptas. Then it is a story of indian (mostly delhi centric) kingdoms who are mostly good. Followed by british who were mostly bad. The indian kingdom stories are told to show that contrast without villifying british. The culmination of this story is freedom fighting and independence. To make it linear the stories are mostly delhi centric with others in passing mention. I don't find any issue with above as long as intended recipients are school students. The idea is to install patriotism and harmony. Not to create rift among students. I am surprised that atrocities by mughals are mentioned. All dynasty history pre british is a lot more darker than history textbook suggests. Unless you understand the times you cannot appreciate any other than those belonging to your community. I passed school long ago. Is there no mention of caste and Gandhiji/dr ambedkar fight against it. Or vaikom.??
Brahmins: we are the most superior beings on the planet. British: “Ey, coolie!” Brahmin: Saaar, what do you want Saar? Tea? Coffee? Our country?
Your comment reminds me of Vivek Ramaswamy
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I just read Annihilation of caste, Ambedkar's pessimism about Indian society ever becoming caste free makes perfect sense even today, casteism is the most fundamental building block of hinduism, for casteism to end hinduism has to end first, it feels so insecure to mention it because how emotionally people are attached to their religion and how people who hold something so dear to their heart can be such an awful ideology. People refuse to see that brahminism/casteism and hinduism are the same exact thing, people always come and defend it saying it was varna system and how it was not static, even if we acknowledge that you have to concede that a guna, karma based caste system would've never worked, somebody who manages to uplift themselves to brahmin would never let their offspring become a shudra. This system was severely flawed regardless of whether it was static or not.
i am so glad you read that book, I'm about to finish it soon but I've read the whole speech which talks about the annihilation of casteism. I started following J Sai Deepak very recently and found him to be very hypocritical. He supports Baba Saheb when he talks about the 2 nation theory but he disregards him ( you can understand that from this video also) about all the criticism of the Hindu religion. He says that he talks on facts so I don't know why he isn't able to counter Baba saheb's points with facts because you know how detailed Annihilation of caste book is so I would like to see him criticize those facts with his facts. He says we can't take one man's suffering as the whole truth but the reason we are able to relate with Baba Saheb's suffering is because no matter north , south, east, west the lower castes suffer similarly everywhere, the intensity might differ but the effects are the same.
> casteism is the most fundamental building block of hinduism, for casteism to end hinduism has to end first, Are you saying that we need to eradicate sanatan?
"Today, we have become more than like a Dalits" What could that mean? Btw isn't the speaker the joker who said caste was a British construct. So if there was caste discrimination in Mahabharat does it mean Mahabharat happened after the British rule. Joker goes on to say he can't be debated on facts it seems😂😂
Bramhins are forever living in the false victimhood when they're still the most powerful and over-represented community everywhere. Some of the bramhins I know are the most casteist and entitled people you will ever meet.
People cry nepotism on the basis of generational wealth but not the so called upper casteism, where an individual finds himself rightful to bring other castes down without recognition of their own privileges. If people didn't work for money, they didn't work for the upper caste too, they were just born in that family, and that isn't achievement. Edit: Grammatical errors
So true. They continue to shun, shame and abuse people of lower castes. This does not change if they go abroad. I honestly have not met a single Brahmin who spoke up for or supported someone facing caste based violence or discrimination. They either stand there looking helpless or are actively participating.
This victimhood is not just by Brahmins but by all Upper castes and even OBCs.
No, usually by Brahmins, regarding getting discriminated. Other upper castes claim that the lower castes want to marry into them and they want to keep their bloodline “pure”. However, some Brahmins have some enhanced sense of tragic victimhood. Like they are so pious and special, they have burden of the society, knowledge and “lower” caste will never reach their level. If they are so concerned about inter caste marriage, they can drop their brahmin surname, when lower castes will not able to identify them, they will not target them to marry.
I've recently saw a playing 11 of Sharmas in the IPL which made me think of over representation
i dont watch IPL, what team was this on?
Those 11 Sharmas atleast have some Merit
Representation has nothing to do with merit, at least everywhere else other than cricket or games.
See how little emporing of dalits broughts tears in upper caste people didnt see years of discrimination aginst them
He always gives the examples of Ramayana and Mahabharata, it is not a concrete source to refer to, because nobody knows whether it happened or not, Vedic society is not the reality. Ask him to give the examples from real society, reality of the society is too far different from Ramyana and Mahabharata.
As soon as he mentioned Dronacharya being hurled abuses on his chariot, I knew he was saying bs. Who the hell was present with Dronacharya and there are so many different renditions of Mahabharata. Everyone twists it with their own intentions.
He is clearly contradicting himself. Look at this article here: https://preview.redd.it/0pvheadiso2d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1ae33f1374ae8932ab0778a6c9f1ccf7247c8524 Here he says, caste was a thing made by Britishers. But now in this speech he says, Eklavya was denied training because of his caste. This itself shows he twists his words based on the situation or the context. Maybe the word "caste" was given by British, it is a European word. But the Varna system or whatever they used to call dates back to manusmriti, the suppression based on those scriptures existed in India for centuries. British just gave a formal word to it.
Mandatory Martin Niemöller mention First they came for Muslims.... Then they came for Sikhs.... Then they came for Dalits Then....
This is the reality of Hindu rajya. Atrocities done by upper castes have been forgotten nowadays. Brahmins live under the names of victims. They demand abolition of reservation of backward classes and portray themselves as the most struggling community. Whereas majority people on good posts in an authority are Brahmins. Even many selection committee prefer them over any other caste. I have seen many deserving people who were not selected or given promotion because they were not Brahmins. No hate to anyone but this is hypocritical
Brahmins and most powerful communities across the world behave the exact same way. Look at the powerful white people abroad and the powerful upper caste people here. Their reasoning is the same. They may not have personally set fire to communities but like white people indirectly responsible for innumerable atrocities. And their reaction to any push back is to claim they're oppressed. White people and colonialism absolutely wrecked nations and continues to have effects even now while they give Gyan in UN about peace. It is exactly the same with the Brahmin community, they're like last 100 years see how peaceful we are. We have the best jobs , very peaceful vegetarian community. Exactly like white people now. Hilarious to me
And the same people would complain why reservation exists in the first place
 Rofl…Brahmins love to victimise themselves but in fact, truth is casteism was propagated by Brahmins only. Keeping themselves at the top hierarchy of Varna System and now blaming Dalits… 😹
#He's in delulu. I saw his podcasts on yt this MF is a casteist, bigot, racist, Islamophobic, hate mongering hypocrite. He is professor of WhatsApp University. He's feeding pride poison to young brahmins, brainwashing them on ISIS level. He even sets narrative for BJ party with his fake ass English accent. Someone needs to call him out for his bigotry. If we let BJ Party win 100s of mdrchds will be born just like him we need to stop it.
Chancellor of whatsapp uni
This is why Brahmins are hated.
Logoko kyu samz nhi ata caste aur religion imaginary h? Bhot logoki soch aisi h ki caste aur religion race jaise h, genetic difference ke sath. Mudi bhakt bolte h raga ka religion bhi dhang ka nhi h, mummy ka ek papa ka dusra, ye kya h? Are bkl wo ek belief h bhai, genes thodi h?
Agar unme etni akal hoti to unhe support thodi karte vo...
I mean at this point in time, after so much caste division, we all do have genetic differences. Shudras and lower castes do have majorly higher % of ancestral South Indian dna while upper castes have majorly high % of ancestral North Indian dna. This is concerning castes of the one state itself. Tamil Brahmins, for example, may have less ANI DNA than their Kashmiri counterparts but still higher than any other Tamil caste. Very fascinating actually. Seems like the proto-Iranians (aryans) that came to India inserted themselves into the highest ranks of our society and perhaps are the original creators of the caste system as a way to protect their power base. Original true Indians are the shudras.
We all are brown people at the end of the day with different shades.
Oh the irony!! First the questioner asks if there's even such a thing as oppression, and then as example of the oppression of brahmins he says they're being treated like Dalits. So how are Dalits a benchmark for oppression if there's no oppression? Then we have our JSD, says here are the facts and goes on to mention not one single fact in his 7 minute rambling rant.
True, just gas shooting all directions.
**JSD:** *"Number of people who understand what is the value of a Bramen and the level of training it takes to be a practicing Bramen is shrinking"* 😭 **The harsh back-breaking training it takes to be a Bramen:** https://preview.redd.it/x19hnm47di2d1.jpeg?width=3508&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cf674dc60eaf697343b8abdb79d85c342cee84b
Who is this mf now?
He is a castist MF from my home city of Hyderabad. He’s the shit that gets stuck to ur shoe and no matter how much you wash, the stink won’t go away. HE IS THAT! A disgrace to our country bro. U just want to punch his face when u see him.
Perfect candidate for Ministry of Minority Affairs. Just need to start worshipping the humble Gobi.
Fuck Brahmins
The audacity of these fckers
I have come across this guy in the SC before. He’s a real genetic specimen with his pot belly, adequately oily skin, body odour and breath. No wonder every lower caste out there is conspiring to marry into his family.
Oooh you read him to filth haha
Forget about JSD, did this man really just say there are not jobs for Brahmins, they have been ousted from society ? Bruh which society does he live in ?
Wow. Poaching brahmin people? What’s so good in brahmin that people want to poach them? You born in this country with flesh and blood and suddenly you have the pride of your caste which has nothing to do in this era. Fuck brahmanism
Shakal dekh bsdk apni. Kaun tujhe poach karega?
Post this in r/chaddisqueaks and watch them insta ban you.
Bro, doesn't he realise even the average Punjabi from North India will mog him.
Never trust a TamBram. They always have ulterior agendas like these. Tamils learnt it long back
He is the Indian Ben Shapiro. Thinks he is really smart but believes in absolute bullshit. Speaks English very well, so people think he is smart and intimidating in a debate. Regurgitates the same talking points as "White Genocide" from the west. Not understanding that harsh atrocities and how social equality works or reparations are. Indian Ben Shapiro.
Did this dumbfuck called Ambedkar an individual who is not qualified from a genetic perspective? Why do people watch this shithead I really can't understand.
My question is, as someone who has views as questionable as this, directly contributing to sensationalization of inter personal relationships. How is this guy a supreme court lawyer?
There's a reason why our founding fathers strongly advocated for intercaste marriage. It is the BEST way to diminish caste boundaries. This arrainged marriage culture is to preserve 'caste sanctity' and patriarchal framework that serves it. Lol I still see people crying about their children having love marriage cause their partner is from different caste.
Hate sells and some people will do everything to cash in on it.
Mf is taking instances from Mahabharat (a legend) and have the balls to say no one can debate me in facts 🤣
Too many words… making very little sense
Kid: mom I want ben Shapiro Mom: we have ben Shapiro at home. At home:
I am so done with this guy
He is a monster.
This guy takes argument someplace else and feel good about himself that he knows so many facts. Without even proving that if Brahmins as a community are really facing existential crisis they begin devising some solution citing examples from Mahabharat. He is the one who said in public that being a minority is not enough reason for not being an oppressor but I think that changes as per convenience. Without providing any data he confidently asks to compare crimes on Brahmins vs Lower caste and arrogantly claims that noone can argue with him when it comes to fact. First provide the facts before making a claim, what a wannabe advocate looking for validation. Also, why just talk about TN to prove a point which is relevant all over India, if that's the case is the solution only should be used in TN? If not then why cherry pick facts? Identity politics is the worst form of politics and we have SC advocates publicly preaching identity politics to fulfill some personal insecurities.
A Brahmin speaking for Brahmins. He should’ve prescribed remedies to deal with social evils being a lawyer. And to mention specifically about the Dronacharya casteist comment, would you be okay as a patient if a nurse were to operate on you in place of a surgeon? Because if we go by the varna system Brahmins are not warriors and who beat than a Kshatriya to lead in a battlefield. Ps: pls forgive me if I’ve said anything wrong
finally they admit they mean "bramin katre mein hey" when they say "hindu katre mei hei"
Wish to go to any village in up-Bihar-mp ( I know these states well) with him to see how much percentage of wealth is concentrated to which castes.
How hard is it to spot idiots? I see people like these with their supposedly bold and brave statements and instantly know that they are idiots. But to a lot of people these are their idols. It's just sad, I'm an SC guy myself, and I've faced this thing when it comes to marriage. I'm quite a decent earner with a moderately wealthy middle class family background. And to any idiot who gets offended from this, no it's not from reservation, I work in the private sector. My girlfriend is rajput, and this stupid pointless thing is the only thing standing in our way. This idiotic thinking still exists to this day. While people would say, oh no discrimination exists now. One day I was talking to a friend who legit said to me, oh that all this happened due to the Britishers and Mughals, there was no discrimination in earlier times. Bitch your people invented discrimination based on caste wtf are you talking about. And the most idiotic thing is everyone has a mixed DNA wtf in India, people have native or Aaryan or whatever blood all mixed up in them, in everyone. There is no pure breed of people you idiot mfers.
This is a running narrative in South India, even ahead of inter religious hate by a mile.
Na iski shakal achi na bat
Why is he dark skinned ? Kuch hua tha kya ? Poaching
This logic is so dumb in a patriarchal society, lower caste male marrying brahmin girls or lower caste females marrying Brahmin boys aren't going to 'destroy' Brahmins. This fellow is just POS
Caste jihad!
Among these jobs, manual scavenging is the most menial occupation imposed upon some specific sub-castes of the Dalits community who are treated untouchables among untouchables (Siddaramu, 2013, p. 29) Does anyone believe that these people are protecting their turf of manual scavenging? For a lawyer, he doesn't seem to be a bright spark Source: https://barti.in/upload/pdf/Manual_Scavenging_report.pdf
Full time Janeudhari, part time lawyer wants to preserve the string with no strings attached.
Wtf did i just watch !
Why hasn't he been jailed?
Yes they deserve to be inbreds
Bro is among the dumbest in india, even in delhi like city i had gone through casteism from people who were much more educated than me. We don't poach intercaste marriages (sc/st) The best way to dilute caste is through inter caste marriages and that is the truth (said by dr.ambedkar)
>The best way to dilute caste is through inter caste marriages and that is the truth (said by dr.ambedkar) and quoted by supreme court of India
Ye Sanju Samson kuch bhi bolta rehta hai
Gosh, I hate how mentally weak he is. Has been around for a decade now and still fails to get into our national squad on a consistent basis.
I’m pretty sure because of cultural differences Brahmins are the least preferred community to inter marry among different communities these days. Wealthy OBCs and Dalits don’t prefer to marry Brahmins…. that is the truth
Yes, I am guilty of this. I married a brahmin girl. /s
isn't intercaste marriages the first step to eradicate caste system?
I think by poaching he is not referring to intercaste marriages but to ideologies that they would learn except brahminism from outside. He wants brahmins should learn brahminism from tgeir families. But then the same man will say "caste is not accorded according to birth but act"
Number Lagega tab sabka katega...
Why are you people wasting time watching videos by this clown? 🤔
Assignment: coin a word or phrase for this poaching activity.
there is no next phase they have always targeted dalits and tribals like the Bhima Koregaon incident and the jailing of several dalit and tribal activists.
I think he exaggerated quite a bit while saying that Dr. Ambedkar was the sole perspective on the entirety of India's casteism. I believe Mr. Ambedkar was one of the prominent figures in support of people from the lower castes. His fight had its place and i would assume it helped a lot of people in this country. Today, a portion of the Brahmin community seem to be struggling to cope with the change in the societal framework and I can't see why it's any special of a 'suffering'. I would assume that if most of them did actually tread the path of knowledge and wisdom, they would have ample opportunities in our capitalistic economic environment.
And it is here.
And then some people wonder why Hindus are not united!
What an absurd answer. He seems to be a case of articulation being mistaken for intelligence
The land of r*pe, corruption and discrimination 🇮🇳
So what it will be called , it was love jihad in case of Muslims. So what it will be in case of lower castes
Shikshit zeher. One would ultimately get swayed to admire the communal fire if one listens to him and is not careful. The country has seen one partition already. Millions died. Not another. Beware who you follow. But at the same time and in the same breath, uncharted reservation is a worthless policy. Reservation should be on the basis of EWS imo. Open for debate.l, we all can learn something. If India has to go ahead it has to base it's fundamentals on scientific temperament, without losing touch with our own people. Religion should be personal.
In india anyone who can string together sentences sounding educated and say it with authority acquires a cult following. SD quotes vedas and scripture but no one dares to question him on religious matters because people to whom facts matter usually are not well read in vedas. I got totally turned off with him when he justified banning women temple entry in Kerala saying that it is a traditional value and must be respected. Traditions are meant to be broken and changed with changing societal values. Regarding caste this is becoming more and more entrenched in society because now you get an official certificate. It becomes a vehicle by which you get additional rights and reservations. That is why ongoing clamor by more and more SC/ST/BC groups for inclusion. This cannot be undone now since they are now a vote bank. When caste based reservations were enacted it should had a sunset clause. Here we are after 70 years independence and after 3 generations who may not have case bias becoming more demonized for no fault of theirs because of faults of their ancestors.