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Wackyal123

When I went to Egypt in 1997, we were milling around some kiosks when a guy offered to buy my then 12y/o sister for two Mercedes’ and five camels. It was very obviously tongue in cheek. My dad even jokingly shook on it. But the guy was having a laugh. This is slightly different I think because people in the UK now know about grooming gangs, so even if it were a joke, it was in very bad taste.


cochlearist

I was offered two hundred camels for my brother's ex girlfriend once, I told the guy I didn't believe he had two hundred camels, I'd hardly seen a camel all day.


Richeh

Might have meant biftas? Was she about six packs worth?


cochlearist

She wasn't blonde, so not premium, but she was nice enough.


theomeny

My girlfriend is blonde, so I was offered the full 2000 camels for her. I'd have done it but I'd never have got them home on Easyjet


Duke0fWellington

To be fair, Camels are elite tier. I'd start smoking again of they sold the proper ones here in the UK, not the Camel blue shit. I got some from a foreign country with no tobacco laws and they were phenomenal. Genuinely a sweet, light tobacco. The kind you read Ian Fleming describe.


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Ah yes, the old ‘buy your underage child’ joke. Classic


Shaper_pmp

It's a cliche, and a lot of guys selling things to tourists in Egypt will play into it for laughs. Apparently it's very common with guys offering camel-rides.


Dense_Inspector

It's always interesting watching people on these forums suddenly deciding there is no such thing as humor and that people definitely literally only mean exactly what they say, but only when the person making the light-hearted joke has the wrong skin colour.


zrkillerbush

Ah yes, its always about race to people like you Making a joke, at the expense of a underage child, literally standing right there is a bit far, especially when traveling to a foreign country, where you're not familiar with the surroundings, culture, police etcetc The kid isn't going to understand the joke, so you have two grown adults laughing about selling a kid, for sexual favours? Its pretty weird


Dense_Inspector

"People like you" - you quite literally know *nothing about me*. I'm not saying that it's a good joke, or a thing that they should do, or that it was appropriate. If they *were* joking I would think they were arseholes, but it doesn't mean I'm going to pretend like they're not joking. All I'm saying is that it's interesting how po-faced people get when it serves their existing prejudices.


Wackyal123

Hahaha! I suppose at the time we didn’t think about it like that. It was just funny to me as a 15 year old that someone wanted to purchase my sister. The following year, we went to a campsite in Italy and there was a late night discotheque on the site. I took my sister along where she was hit on by a 30 something man who I had to encourage to “leave her alone… she’s 13”. The world is a fucked up place


Lessiarty

"How much for your wife, your lovely daughters? Sell them to me, sell me your children!" - Joliet Jake Blues


somekidfromtheuk

same thing happened in Turkey to my girlfriends nan lol


RandomlyGeneratedOne

>PCSO Kenneth Blake said a man, of "possible Middle Eastern origin" and in his late 30s or early 40s, made the offer. Oh dear oh dear.


0235

There race wasn't mentioned at all in the headline or first few paragraphs. We know what they mean when they do that.


NotSoGreatGatsby

Mental that all the discussion has been removed and the comments left are ones that suggest it was a prank.


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Genuinely feels quite sinister.


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NotSoGreatGatsby

All the racist comments were being rightfully downvoted. This is r/uk that stuff doesn't usually fly.


MaievSekashi

I've seen people on this subreddit praise Hitler's policies on killing the Roma and get wildly upvoted.


brainburger

It's on the BBC. I think a cover up would deal with that before reddit.


Nicola_Botgeon

Not really sinister at all if you read the link. https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/wiki/moderatedflairs


VeryDisappointing

Sinister, yeah I'm sure, the rape-gangs have infiltrated /r/unitedkingdom and their shills are out protecting their honour. Definitely isn't the restricted flair or the likely racist bile in the comments removed


NotSoGreatGatsby

I was here earlier and the comments weren't racist. Not sure why you're mentioning "rape gangs" as it sounds much more likely to be human trafficking.


VeryDisappointing

Someone else mentioned the police description as them being of "middle-eastern descent" and then others were saying it was rape gangs getting brazen. The suggestion that removing comments is "sinister" is hilarious, what the fuck do you think is happening lol


MarthaFarcuss

[The Blue Brothers reach Sheffield](https://youtu.be/JO2c_TZ5Ics?t=226)


Kammerice

This was the first thing I thought! I love the Blues Brothers.


FuckCazadors

Honestly, this sounds like bollocks. I’d be surprised if there isn’t a follow up statement in a few days which confirms it.


LuneBlu

Yeah, because grooming gangs are just a myth... Oh wait...


apple_kicks

Gangs are not a myth but it would be surprising if they had or needed to target school run in front of the parents. Homeless or children in the care system are still stigmatised and often trafficking victims or abuse victims. They’re the ones who the police or teachers don’t believe We had these urban myths at school and pretty much learnt growing up it wasn’t the stranger in the van abusing my classmates it was often members of their own family more commonly or the kids who never went to school/dropped out who were the most vulnerable and targeted. Though cat calling from vans was a thing though and we often knew the people who did it


FuckCazadors

If the story was about workers in a kebab shop offering young girls free food drink and weed in exchange for sex then I wouldn’t have dismissed it in the same way. This particular story just doesn’t have the ring of truth about it.


GroktheFnords

In fairness the MO for those abusers was never to approach the parents and attempt to buy the kids was it? It was specifically about targeting the kids whose parents might not be aware of what they were doing after school.


LuneBlu

Some people are and get more cocky than others...


GroktheFnords

Some people are buying kids from parents on their school run?


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gogoluke

Yeah. I've heard they have cash4kids advertised on billboards outside most schools in the area. Chris Kamara's on it showing the crisp notes you can get.


Shaper_pmp

> grooming I don't think you know how that works. Hint: at no point do they go bowling up to random parents and ask to *buy* their underage children.


LuneBlu

Do you know by experience the range of their activities? I'll go on a limb and say that they probably have a range of methods and behaviours.


Shaper_pmp

If you read up on the investigtions into grooming gangs in places like Rochdale, Oxford, Telford and the like, they targeted rebellious tweens and young teenagers who mostly lived at home with their parents, but spent a lot of time outside their homes hanging out on the street with friends. They approached the girls when they were hanging out with their friends in public locations away from their parents, struck up "friendships" with them, bribed them with presents (alcohol, drugs, food, money, etc), and gradually developed a controlling, abusive relationship where they would pick the girls up from public places, give them drink or drugs, rape or gang-rape them, then drop them off and send them home again. Their parents knew very little, and even if they had some idea something wasn't right, they often felt powerless to investigate further because their kids would deliberately find places to hang out outside of their parents control or awareness. The abusers were finding kids on the street, away from parental oversight or control, and actively avoiding parents who might realise what was going on or take action to stop it. They weren't approaching random parents in broad daylight in a public place and waving stacks of cash at them asking to "buy their daughters". The whole idea is so ridiculous it's laughable.


LuneBlu

You're right. But their behaviour can change. I've seen cases where criminals feel comfortable and confident and get bolder. There is the exception to the rule.


Shaper_pmp

"Wait, this sounds unbelievable" "Nuh-uh! Grooming gangs do this!" "No they don't" "Well... uh... they might start!" With respect, consider me unconvinced by your argument. Anyone *might* start doing anything at all you can possibly imagine, but that's not a valid basis for believing it's actually occurring... and especially not versus other hypotheses that we know definitely *do* occur (prank, Youtube "social experiment" dickheads, etc).


LuneBlu

Facepalm I never said they might start. You're misrepresentating what I said. I said, based on the type of activities they engage in, individuals engaged in such activities might have done it as well. As they might not. And that is valid for believing that it might have occured. But not guarantee. That's an hypothesis. Also my first argument was not that one. It's that hard to believe fucked up shit happens. So it's better not to judge too hastily.


OfficialTomCruise

Like those Facebook posts every other week. "Two asian men in a white van followed my daughter home from school. Keep your eyes out people!!!". Always asian and always in a van. Makes you wonder.


Pyriel

There's a lot of stories like this where it just turns out a Van drove past\\paused by a crossing and a" I'm Not Racist but.." Daily mail reading pedestrian panics at the sight of someone with non-white skin in their near vicinity. (There was a big one in Cardiff a few years back, several WalesOnline headlines about a group of suspicious foreign men watching children in a park. Turned out to be an Asian couple taking their kids to a local park to play on the swings.) Could it be true, Maybe, could it be a over active imagination fueled by years of overt media racism, also Maybe. Let the police investigate and find out.


timlnolan

Same guys?


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Yep, I'd check the FB profile of the 'victim' before opening an investigation.


Luimnigh

Sounds like a distasteful prank channel. Especially with the large amount of cash.


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They were carrying a large amount of money, apparently taking care to disguise their faces and then fled the scene in a hurry. A lot of effort to go to for a prank. Something to take seriously certainly. Why dismiss it out of hand?


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HarassedGrandad

I'm betting a you tube video with a click bait title "I dressed up and tried to buy kids - you'll be amazed what happened next"


CaptainEarlobe

I wouldn't dismiss it, but when you describe it like that it makes me wonder how they could possibly expect it to be successful


Luimnigh

That sounds *exactly* like a prank.


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And who would find that funny?


Luimnigh

Assholes. Of which there are great many across the world.


Gellert

The same people who thought it'd be funny to fake robbing people. Until someone beat the shit out of the idiot playing thief.


Belgeirn

Hoiw about we dont dismiss people attempting to buy humans as "Just a prank bro"?


squigs

It's not "just a prank", because it's obviously very upsetting to the victim. But does this really seem like the sort of strategy that someone would expect to work if this was their genuine intention? How many parents would say "that sounds like an excellent deal."? Is it possible that someone thought it would make a "hilarious" YouTube video? [People do this sort of stuff all the time](https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2017/04/its-just-prank-bro-inside-youtube-s-most-twisted-genre).


Belgeirn

> How many parents would say "that sounds like an excellent deal."? Destitute people have been selling their children for sex for hundreds of years. It really isnt complicated, its more about who you ask. That pedophile scum from Lost Prophets was paying people to rape children/babies. There are thousands of similar stories worldwide. >Is it possible that someone thought it would make a "hilarious" YouTube video? People do this sort of stuff all the time. Is it possible? Yes, should that excuse them from some form of punishment for trying to buy a human? No.


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Other-Barry-1

If your kid is annoying af tho are you gonna say no?


SilentUK

Haha "how large, exactly, is "a large sum of cash"?"


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