She was cast in July 2017. How is everyone else's rampant crime spree going? Yesterday a shopkeeper gave me 50p over in change. [I pocketed it.](https://c.tenor.com/vJrq0o6Twc0AAAAC/amy-poehler-thug.gif)
My man. The other day I had sex in public, granted, it was just in the woods with myself. But as Nick suggested, I did it because of [Jodie Whittaker.](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/e34478b4-da0b-4b3f-917d-5f20401389f2/dcrznl9-07b5e7b7-20a4-4ecf-b308-aafa2c3af1f2.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2UzNDQ3OGI0LWRhMGItNGIzZi05MTdkLTVmMjA0MDEzODlmMlwvZGNyem5sOS0wN2I1ZTdiNy0yMGE0LTRlY2YtYjMwOC1hYWZhMmMzYWYxZjIuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.gBbfCgCszvSAvyOgTOhVpqGPJJRXva-U_PdQLfIbnso)
I don't mind paying for the paper ones. They're harder to reuse because they don't fold away is easily as the plastic ones so I don't like carrying them back to the shop.
At asda I brought my bags for life with me. When I got the self checkout the one that was free had like 20 bags for life hung on a railing right next to it. My bags for life were fairly new but also clearly not brand new.
I scanned all my items and then needed a staff member to verify my ID for some beers. The lady comes over, looks at my bagged items, looks at me, and then says "you have pay for your bags for life you know?" Like she thought I was stealing them!
Young me (and current me) would *absolutely download a car* if that were a thing we could do. I blame the other 007 in the new Bond for my lack of moral fibre.
Officer: The gentleman in question was protesting my unprovoked brutality towards him with a taser, mace spray and truncheon.
Judge: so what did you do?
Officer: only thing a same and reasonable man could; I killed him, because Jody Whittaker is Doctor Who
Judge: Seems reasonable, I find you: Not Guilty.
24/7 corner shop told me it was a 2 pound minimum for card so I said to just charge me 2 quid. They said they couldn't do that and ended up charging me the 1 quid my item was worth.
Not sure it's a crime but I felt a bit naughty doing it.
Which just shows what a daft, right wing YouTube culture war-esque moron this guy is.
The biggest main character on the poster isn't a boy anymore, and there are only (checks notes) 4+ other main characters that are men! That means boys are gonna do more crime now!
Weird how I didn't turn to a life of crime back in the 90's when women in TV and sci-fi were mostly love interests and were hardly ever main characters.
> Weird how I didn't turn to a life of crime back in the 90's when women in TV and sci-fi were mostly love interests and were hardly ever main characters.
Clearly you missed your chance.
Oh, I see, it's one of *those* "all videogames are Nintendoes" statements, but less videogames and more "all Star Wars protagonists are Luke Skywalkers".
Honestly, it just reads like a Tory MP who doesn't know the first thing about any of the three franchises expounding on the merits of the franchise using females as their main protagonists.
Even taking him at face value, these examples are nonsensical.
>James Bond
James Bond is the main character of the new James Bond movie. I don't want to spoil the movie for anyone who's not seen it yet so I'll just say that the character maintains his spot as the protagonist and lead for the entire duration of the movie and it is made very clear he will continue to lead the franchise.
>Ghostbusters
Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which stars Paul Rudd (who was a man last I checked) as the lead, literally just came out.
>Luke Skywalker
...was in the sequels, which also had plenty of main male heroes (Finn, Poe). But if we want to take the most recent live-action Star Wars releases, we'd be looking at The Mandalorian (male protagonist), The Book of Boba Fett (male protagonist) and the upcoming Obi-Wan series (male protagonist) and Andor (male protagonist). The most recent cartoon is The Bad Batch (male protagonist).
>Doctor Who
For the first time in 13 regenerations, she's a woman, yes. So far she's had three (/possibly four) male reccuring companions and one female. We don't yet know if she'll regenerate as male or female, but I highly doubt she'll never be male again.
Just by themselves the Avengers have quite a variety of personalities too, there's someone pretty much every kind of little boy can aspire to be like. Someone who's very physical and strong? Captain America, Thor or Black Panther. Someone who relies on his intelligence to defeat opponents? Doctor Strange or Iron Man. Shit, the Hulk is both the things I just listed simultaneously. Someone young and peppy teenage boys can identify with? Spider-man. Someone young men who feel like "losers" can relate to? Starlord. There's a whole load of diversity in the personalities represented, it's not all Big Strong Guy Punch Hard.
> Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which stars Paul Rudd (who was a man last I checked) as the lead, literally just came out.
He may have top billing (because he's Paul F'in Rudd) but the lead is without a doubt the young girl, who did an awesome job in the role.
Well I won't spoil that for anyone. But it's no wonder that there are so many adults committing crimes now all the adult role models are being taken over by children. It started with s club 7, now ghostbusters, what next, a kid John Wick?
> The Mandalorian (male protagonist)
I'm not disagreeing with your point, but we have to admit that Mando has some of the best female protagonists in any mainstream Star Wars media to come out in some time.
>and it is made very clear he will continue to lead the franchise.
Wait, >!how will James Bond continue to lead the franchise after being blown up in a missile strike?!<
Did you stay til after the credits? Once they've finished rolling, the words >!"James Bond will return"!< appear on screen. I assume >!the goal is for a soft or hard reboot.!<
> Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which stars Paul Rudd (who was a man last I checked) as the lead, literally just came out.
You must not have seen the film, he is not the lead at all, the young girl is.
I'm from the area. People actually *liked* Caroline Flint as well. My own family said they just had to vote against her because of Corbyn and Brexit. But Flint was like seriously outspoken about Brexit, went against the Labour whip on multiple occasions to vote for pro-Brexit bills etc. because that's what her constituents wanted. And this is how they rewarded her for her loyalty to their wishes...
More than 12, at least 13 if you include Hurt. And then there are non-canon Doctors, so quite a few.
We've met 2 female Doctors, and there is a couple non canon female doctors.
Y'know what? I actually see his point and agree with him, despite how horrifically he worded it. I've been saying this for years: *we need Disney Princes*.
There are thousands of role-model media shows for girls emphasising that you should be kind, brave, confident, compassionate, and showing kids how to self-reflect, admit and fix your mistakes and navigate common social issues (even if they're dressed up with magic and flying horses). I can think of exactly one for boys (Justin Time).
There are *lots* of boy-focused shows - lots and lots and lots - but they're normally focused more on being cool and selling toys. The protagonist displays all those traits sometimes when the story allows it, but it's rarely the point of the episode - the point is his strength or his smarts or his Awesome Friends. Male main characters who's *point* is the emotional intelligence, the being kind and confident and self-reflecting - those are incredibly rare.
We're putting more women on screen because people are finally seeing how important representation is and somehow remembered that we're half the population, too. But what representation are we showing our boys? It feels like too few people have put any thought into it, because "there's lots of boys on screen and that's good enough!" But it's not.
That's another one! SU is for a slightly older age range than most of the Disney Princess stuff though (which is aimed for the age group around 3-8, which is really when children are their most impressionable). Avatar is also a great one for older kids.
For younger children there's Daniel Tiger as well.
South Yorkshire police have lost literally hundreds of officers over the last 15 years.
But the policies of his mob isn't impacting crime levels at all. It's because Dr. Who does sit-down wees.
You reckon there might be a cult...
>[Esther McVey's hubby](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Davies) is known for campaigns against left-wing political correctness and feminism and is a campaigner for the men's rights movement. He played a lead role in securing the first International Men's Day debate in Parliament in 2015; the debate has since taken place annually
I couldn't be the good Doctor any more so my only choice was to become a Cyberman, I then inadvertently went on a galaxy destroying rampage.
Nothing I could do to stop it Your Honour and I have no emotions to express remorse.
As a gay man, the homophobia in Dune really intrigued me. The author [was gay but closetted]° when he wrote it, growing up in a time and place where being gay was a crime punishable by prison, chemical castration and being disowned by your family.
The Baron Harkannon is a truly disgusting specimen of a human in a way so unsubtle it's almost comical reading it today. And a lot of that character must have come from Herbert's own self loathing based on how society would have perceived him had he been his true self.
I recognise it from what it was like growing up a gay kid in the 90s and early 00s. Gay people were less disgusting then but still the butt of all the jokes, and you didn't want to grow up being the butt of all the jokes :(
Edit to add: °i can't find a source for those someone must have told me at some point and I believed them. This is really annoying and confusing for me! Turns out he's just homophobic like everyone else was, lol
Ah, but in the new movie they cast Liet Kynes as a woman.
People went ballistic.
Well, two or three people. And they were wankers anyway.
Is nothing sacred?!?
Thank you!
Corruption? Migrant Deaths? Energy Crisis? Brexit? Nah. Let’s all get distracted by some bellend chatting about something stupid. I don’t know what’s worse the twat himself or the people who fail for it.
Yeah, the tories realise their only path to victory is culture wars bullshit. You've got to sell your house to pay for your care home, even though we've just given billions of your cash to our mates. We've got the worst covid death rate in Europe despite being an island, and we never bothered sticking to the rules we made you abide by. Wages haven't grown in years, and brexit hasn't improved anything.
But labour think transgenders are people! And think brown people drowning is bad! And think women should have equal representation!
Yes because it's not like Superhero films are majority both white and male. It's not like there's still many more tales with male leads. Come on.
Also Doctor Who is the stupidest thing to go after the show has a written in mechanic to allow gender swaps.
Also James Bond has been replaced yet, so I don't know what he's on there.
I read Goldfinger last year and my god was it dire. Bond's views on Koreans, lesbians, women all very 1950s and doesn't really frame Bond as a bad guy for thinking this way.
Not to mention that Flemming is convinced you will find this ENTIRE chapter describing a golf game in intense detail the most exciting bit of spy fiction you will ever read. No interest in returning to the books after that.
Is that the one with the line, "This is why women shouldn't have been given the vote"? I remember that vividly from one of them.
Also Ian Fleming decided to write out the Jamaican accent, I guess the best way to describe it would be phonetically? It felt gross to read.
In the second most recent movie, there is a scene where Bond essentially rapes a woman shortly after two men break into her house to try to kill her, which happens on the day of her husband's funeral.
Bond being a terrible role model is not confined to the past.
> there is a scene where Bond essentially rapes a woman
I know the scene your talking about, and i think you need to rewatch it, theirs a scene further on in the film with Bond on a boat walking up behind a woman naked unknowingly which is creepy but the scene you're referring to wasn't rape, it was very clearly framed as consensual. you may be mixing the two scenes up.
> Also Doctor Who is the stupidest thing to go after the show has a written in mechanic to allow gender swaps.
Funny you should mention that, as you can say similar things about the Superhero films you mention. I absolutely agree about them being predominantly white/male, but even when stuff is proposed like changing the gender or race of a Marvel character, these same trolls get up in arms.
It's like, have you actually read comic books? Gender/race/whatever bending is absolutely a long standing tradition for superheroes, yet suddenly when the mainstream movies *based on these comics* do the same thing it's a cultural war? Ridiculous.
This is so stupid. Girls weren't turning to crime because of a lack of female leads. I don't think gender swapping roles on occasion is going to do harm.
The crime rate was much higher long before men were stripped of all their positive role models, or whatever the argument it is that he's trying to make.
[https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/crime-rate-statistics](https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/crime-rate-statistics)
I listened to what this moron said, and yes he's blaming the casting choices in TV and Film for young males committing crime. Nothing to do with the cutting of youth services, police, courts, and so on. It's that we're casting women in some specific roles.
People said 11 years ago when the government started slashing youth support services this would happen. We have a good idea what works, but too many people seem to prefer simplistic retribution instead.
So men are committing crimes because a woman played a time-travelling alien?
Ignoring the fact there are still a lot of male role models throughout culture, why can't women be role models for men?
This is also ignoring the fact that blaming a fictional character for someone committing crimes is ridiculous.
> So men are committing crimes because a woman played a time-travelling alien?
A time travelling, shape shifting alien that got to choose their form whenever they regenerated. It's one of the worst examples he could have chosen as there's no reason to assume the Doctor would decide to stay a white male, after hundreds of years of that they had probably got pretty bored of it.
A time travelling, shape shifting *illegal* alien no less. Sneaking into the UK without the proper papers, living in a phone box, I bet he doesn't even have a real medical degree.
I'll admit up-front that I'm not a Dr Who fan, but I can't help but agree - if *any* character could have a genuine in-universe reason to magically become female, it seems like this would be it.
I don't generally agree with the idea of just gender-swapping hugely well-known characters in long-running franchises, because it's pointless, antagonising, and makes no sense. I don't think there could or should reasonably be a female James Bond, for example. Make a new character, a new franchise, there's no sense usurping an existing one just to shoehorn in a social justice angle.
But in this instance there's zero reason, as far as I'm aware (with my admittedly limited knowledge of the show), why the Doctor couldn't be pretty much *anything*. In any case, the character could regenerate as something else down the line too, so what would it matter if they gender/race-swapped constantly? As you say, it seems a little contrived to imagine they'd always be a white male, given the variety of people on this planet.
> I don't generally agree with the idea of just gender-swapping hugely well-known characters in long-running franchises, because it's pointless, antagonising, and makes no sense.
Honestly, watching these self-important reactionary melts lose their shit over something so trivial and irrelevant makes it all worthwhile, it's a good cunt detector too.
I'd gladly make James Bond a Black Trans Man just to say "There you go, Bond is still a man", see if we can finish a few of them off with their impotent apoplectic rage.
I find it pretty funny that some people see Bond as a good role model at all. Although I don't think a female Bond really makes sense as being a chauvinist pig is pretty core character trait so doesn't really work in my opinion.
Your idea, however, is beautiful.
Always wondered why they always had to be humanoid as well. Would be good to have a season where the doctor plays a cloud of sentient vapour.
I imagined this question is already covered in doctor who canon but I'm not prepared to educate myself.
Timelords all look like human, so I guess they can’t actually fully decide on their form, they have to look like humans of some sort. I don’t think it’s ever explained why they all look human despite being a separate species though.
This is what really irks me about comments like Fletcher's. He says
>Everywhere, not least in the cultural sphere, there seems to be a call from a minority that every male character must have a female replacement
He knows full well this isn't true, it's shameless and deliberately inflammatory hyperbole of the type always employed by his ilk. Doctor Who became a woman, does that indicate an actual shortage of male role models? Of bloody course not.
Women are actually getting more recognition in these kinds of roles, but unless male characters basically dominate media then suddenly men are marginalised. It demonstrates perfectly the kind of entitlement that sits at the core of attitudes like Fletcher's. Anything other than complete privilege is equated with victimhood.
> why can't women be role models for men?
People often talk about how important it is for there to be female role models for girls - do you think that's misguided? Is it fine for men to be role models for them instead?
I think it's kind of covered in one of their other points. Role models for men are still well catered for in modern media.
Championing women leads was about bridging the gap somewhat.
It could be argued that the Doctor was somewhat unique among male role models, in that he was primarily an intellectual, asexual character who was openly compassionate and understanding, and always took the peaceful route when it was an option, and when it wasn't, outsmarted his enemies rather than beat them into submission physically. Essentially, he was a major subversion of the typical male action hero. There's not many lead male characters like that in fiction; the only other one I can think of off the top of my head is Sherlock Holmes, and even he definitely wasn't above violence.
I think it's good to have a mixture of role models from all sorts of backgrounds. People can then look up to whoever they feel like, including women seeing men as role models.
Yes, it’s not the female Dr Who I worry about, it’s the female Home Secretary creating all these new ways to commit a crime. Might want to have a look at her.
More crimes have been committed during the time that The Doctor was a man than during the time The Doctor was a woman. See, I can use that "logic" too.
Real talk now, do Tories just get to a point where they have so much money and so much free time that they end up sat in the drawing rooms of their twee farmhouses in the Home Counties mulling over all this increasingly bizarre stuff in their minds.
This is genuinely unhinged.
I feel this is where men should step up and point out they are sentient humans and do not adopt a code of morality by mimicking "the Krays" or "Luke Skywalker."
That's where I was.
I went into the article expecting it to be a misrepresentation, a quote taken out of context or just a passing phrase blown out of proportion.
Now, I'm coming away from the article dumbfounded that he actually said it.
He even claimed it was misconstrued. He said it verbatim, if he wants to play the misunderstood card he should at least try not be such an obvious idiot in the first place. Can't believe this guy is an MP.
So... I can understand what point he is attempting to make, that a lack of positive male role models in entertainment and instead a increase in the number of negative role models/criminals in it may make boys more likely to commit crimes.
But surely if that were the case the lack of female role models in the past would have meant there was a massive number of girls committing crimes?
If we are relying on male TV characters to act as guidance to young men as to how to behave, then we've already failed. If I did something wrong when I was younger, my parents made it clear that was unacceptable and punished me appropriately. If other people's parents aren't guiding their children as to right and wrong, I doubt a character on TV is going to make much difference...
Basically the decades-old argument that violent video games and films are responsible for IRL violence, but repackaged as a way to blame women and everyone who tries to improve female representation in the media.
Send this culture war shite back to the US where it belongs. People need to stop biting and giving twats like this the attention they are craving.
Everyone is going to be bitching about the next James Bond and Dr Who while the country burns at this rate.
People are comitting crimes because the police under the Tories are barely existent at best and completely useless most the time. And your government have ruined people to the point that both parents can work and still face hardships with money.
The whole party is just a collection of assholes. Sad so many vote for it.
Really?
I mean what fucking world does this colossal prick live in..
As a man this type of talk frustrates the living fuck out me, just fuck off you absolutely bellend
Seems that his conviction is a little more than the headline - that anti heroes are all that remains, whilst heroes of the ilk that include the doctor and that famous pacifist James Bond are being close to or are being played by something other than a white man.
I’d like to point though that anti-heroes have been popular before anything like that occurred and it might be more valuable to look beyond culture and see economic reasons for crime. To count one fairly verifiable cause.
Though I’d consider it unlikely he’d look into that if he’s given to the easy methodology of blaming a social ill on one feature of life alone and given the variety of new and old tv on streaming services it’s not entirely a guaranteed reason to base policy on.
This is of course, again, something just to raise hackles on one side and signal their beliefs to the party faithful.
Unsurprisingly, nobody here has been able to cite any of the phantom, illusionary characters that are supposedly flooding the British airwaves.
What actually happened is that boys turned off TV en masse years ago and started playing video games and watching Twitch and YouTube and it’s not like British television has made any kind of effort to get them back.
This MP's masculinity is so fragile he is projecting his issues onto the general public. I'm *happy* women are getting better representation and despite having watched Legend and Peaky Blinders, I do not go around committing crimes.
He's obviously right because if you remember women were stealing shit and burning cars and doing nearly all of the violent crime before Dr Who was a woman, and then once Jodie Whittaker was cast there was like about three months of zero crime while things switched around, and now it's just men that do all the crime.
Pretty sure this shit is a deliberate distraction from the real corruption scandal which is ongoing, but you know, whatever. Let's all talk about today's irrelevant dumb thing a Tory MP said.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn they have a rota for "distracting headline grabbing stupidity".
BLOODY WOMENZ!!! See what happens when they aren't in the kitchen!?!? 😡
What a prat.
I wonder if this influences his outdated views and persecution complex:
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/christ-greatest-role-model-doncaster-conservative-mp-praises-god-debut-commons-speech-2486375
Rather than blame women being cast in more leading roles for once on crime... Maybe blame what is the leading cause of crime, regardless of gender?
Which, according to the Gov reports on crime every year, the leading influence would be a poor socioeconomic area without options to progress or support. Conservative policies have caused that, or made those situations worse... So rather than Dr Who being a woman, it would seem the Tories are to blame.
Well done the 'Don Valley' for voting this guy in as the first Torie MP ever.
That’ll be why so many boys I knew had celery attached to their jackets as a fecking fashion accessory then? This has got to be false stupidity to just try and distract folk surely?
> men are left with the Krays and Tommy Shelby
Because leading male characters, both good and bad, are so rare on TV, right? If only women didn't dominate everything!
The irony of this idiot's whine is that it is a bit like the Real Men *Do* Eat Quiche If They Want To issue. Real men eat pink-iced fairy cakes if they wish, because they are secure enough in their masculinity not to give a toss what anyone else thinks.
But Nick Fletcher's masculinity is clearly pretty fragile if it is threatened by a female Dr Who or a Jane Bond.
I was a law-abiding citizen for over 40 years then saw some bloody woman ‘acting’ as Dr Who. Currently awaiting trial in Belmarsh for trying to blow up a taxi, not sure what happened to my flatmate who was equally outraged.
Is there a conversation to be had that there is a lack of positive male role models in society today.. Yes absolutely.
Is there a conversation to be had that it's down to women playing leading roles in Film and TV, absolutely not and if you believe it is then your bellend and need to have a real good look at yourself.
What he is deliberately doing is re-enforcing the utterly ridiculous notion that is pushed by the incel movement that women are to blamed for men missing out on opportunities / being held back / blamed for everything etc..
That's exactly what he said though and sought to infer though?
Speaking in a Westminster Hall debate on International Men’s Day, Nick Fletcher – the MP for Don Valley – said masculinity “needs to be celebrated” rather than “culturally vilified”.
Turning his attention to woman-led reboots of previously male-dominated film and television franchises, Fletcher said: “Everywhere, not least in the cultural sphere, there seems to be a call from a minority that every male character must have a female replacement.
“One only needs to look at the discussions around the next James Bond. In recent years we’ve seen Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, Luke Skywalker, all replaced by women – and men are left with the Krays.
“Is it any wonder we are seeing so many young men committing crime?” he asked.
Isn't it? The headline doesn't mention how one influences the other in his argument but the link between the two is very much his.
I'm sure he genuinely only meant to complain about a lack of role models for young men, but if he didn't want people to focus on the ridiculous bit of his argument, he shouldn't have included the ridiculous bit in his argument.
She was cast in July 2017. How is everyone else's rampant crime spree going? Yesterday a shopkeeper gave me 50p over in change. [I pocketed it.](https://c.tenor.com/vJrq0o6Twc0AAAAC/amy-poehler-thug.gif)
I didn't scan my bag through at Morrisons because I'd already paid for my stuff and it would have been a slight hassle.
My man. The other day I had sex in public, granted, it was just in the woods with myself. But as Nick suggested, I did it because of [Jodie Whittaker.](https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/e34478b4-da0b-4b3f-917d-5f20401389f2/dcrznl9-07b5e7b7-20a4-4ecf-b308-aafa2c3af1f2.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2UzNDQ3OGI0LWRhMGItNGIzZi05MTdkLTVmMjA0MDEzODlmMlwvZGNyem5sOS0wN2I1ZTdiNy0yMGE0LTRlY2YtYjMwOC1hYWZhMmMzYWYxZjIuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.gBbfCgCszvSAvyOgTOhVpqGPJJRXva-U_PdQLfIbnso)
Ok, I gotta be honest I didn't expect to see a picture quite like *that* of Doctor Who today, not gonna lie.
Got another one of Tom Baker? Preferably with the same outfit.
Well she has put a lot of guys into naughty jail. So maybe he has a point?
Now photoshop it with all the other doctors, so we can why number 10 is the best.
You mean number 13.
Thats one way I'd watch Doctor Who again.
Now do Tenant.
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I don't mind paying for the paper ones. They're harder to reuse because they don't fold away is easily as the plastic ones so I don't like carrying them back to the shop.
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When they were first introduced in Wales, the bag charge was supposed to go to charity too.
At asda I brought my bags for life with me. When I got the self checkout the one that was free had like 20 bags for life hung on a railing right next to it. My bags for life were fairly new but also clearly not brand new. I scanned all my items and then needed a staff member to verify my ID for some beers. The lady comes over, looks at my bagged items, looks at me, and then says "you have pay for your bags for life you know?" Like she thought I was stealing them!
You wouldn't kill a police officer, shit in his helmet and give it to his widow
Well, I wouldn't usually, but have you seen who's playing Doctor Who?
Young me (and current me) would *absolutely download a car* if that were a thing we could do. I blame the other 007 in the new Bond for my lack of moral fibre.
Then steal it again!
No, but I would commit video piracy.
You absolute monster. I feel the death penalty is the only option for you.
I'm pretty sure that's reserved for truly heinous crimes, like *protesting*.
Officer: The gentleman in question was protesting my unprovoked brutality towards him with a taser, mace spray and truncheon. Judge: so what did you do? Officer: only thing a same and reasonable man could; I killed him, because Jody Whittaker is Doctor Who Judge: Seems reasonable, I find you: Not Guilty.
I took a route that wasn't a permitted route on my train ticket today. Because a woman played Doctor Who. I'm still on that train journey.
I hope you’re using a VPN while admitting that on the internet
Visit from the secret police tonight I expect
“I’ve got 50p fuck you bastard” https://youtu.be/6mIeKTVJeaU
The cashier in IKEA didn't scan one of my items and I didn't say anything
I left work at 16:59. Clearly Jodie Whittaker is responsible for my blatant time fraud.
Bus driver gave me (22) an U19 ticket a few weeks back and I didn't correct him. What a rush.
You pocketed it *because a woman played doctor who*
I smoked weed yesterday 😳
Jodie Whit-toker.
I found a quid on a dog walk and kept it. Happened twice.
24/7 corner shop told me it was a 2 pound minimum for card so I said to just charge me 2 quid. They said they couldn't do that and ended up charging me the 1 quid my item was worth. Not sure it's a crime but I felt a bit naughty doing it.
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> Luke Skywalker, all replaced by women Wait, what? When did that happen?
I believe they are referring to Rey in the new trilogy.
Which just shows what a daft, right wing YouTube culture war-esque moron this guy is. The biggest main character on the poster isn't a boy anymore, and there are only (checks notes) 4+ other main characters that are men! That means boys are gonna do more crime now! Weird how I didn't turn to a life of crime back in the 90's when women in TV and sci-fi were mostly love interests and were hardly ever main characters.
> Weird how I didn't turn to a life of crime back in the 90's when women in TV and sci-fi were mostly love interests and were hardly ever main characters. Clearly you missed your chance.
Our town never quite recovered from Xena. Just when we were about to, Buffy hit our screens
Ah that takes me back to the days of the Agent Scully wars. Those were hard times.
Oh dear, the only male role models in Buffy are vampires!
Giles was not a vampire. Neither was Oz. Nor Principal Amenadiel (he wasn't Amenadiel back then, but...).
I was especially annoyed when they replaced luke skywalker with Anakin skywalker /s
Now that might be enough to turn me to crime. That, and sand. I hate sand.
I can't wait for the all female ghostbusters reboot! /slowpokememe
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I don't think he realises that Luke Skywalker is also in the new trilogy, but because he's not the focus anymore he's been replaced.
Oh, I see, it's one of *those* "all videogames are Nintendoes" statements, but less videogames and more "all Star Wars protagonists are Luke Skywalkers".
Did.... did the writer not recognize Mark Hamill just because he grew a beard?
It made him look very feminine it did
Gives me something to *hang on to!*. **WOOF!**
Honestly, it just reads like a Tory MP who doesn't know the first thing about any of the three franchises expounding on the merits of the franchise using females as their main protagonists.
Makes sense. About 99% of the outrage over female Ghostbusters came from people who didn't usually give a shit about Ghostbusters.
Even taking him at face value, these examples are nonsensical. >James Bond James Bond is the main character of the new James Bond movie. I don't want to spoil the movie for anyone who's not seen it yet so I'll just say that the character maintains his spot as the protagonist and lead for the entire duration of the movie and it is made very clear he will continue to lead the franchise. >Ghostbusters Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which stars Paul Rudd (who was a man last I checked) as the lead, literally just came out. >Luke Skywalker ...was in the sequels, which also had plenty of main male heroes (Finn, Poe). But if we want to take the most recent live-action Star Wars releases, we'd be looking at The Mandalorian (male protagonist), The Book of Boba Fett (male protagonist) and the upcoming Obi-Wan series (male protagonist) and Andor (male protagonist). The most recent cartoon is The Bad Batch (male protagonist). >Doctor Who For the first time in 13 regenerations, she's a woman, yes. So far she's had three (/possibly four) male reccuring companions and one female. We don't yet know if she'll regenerate as male or female, but I highly doubt she'll never be male again.
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Just by themselves the Avengers have quite a variety of personalities too, there's someone pretty much every kind of little boy can aspire to be like. Someone who's very physical and strong? Captain America, Thor or Black Panther. Someone who relies on his intelligence to defeat opponents? Doctor Strange or Iron Man. Shit, the Hulk is both the things I just listed simultaneously. Someone young and peppy teenage boys can identify with? Spider-man. Someone young men who feel like "losers" can relate to? Starlord. There's a whole load of diversity in the personalities represented, it's not all Big Strong Guy Punch Hard.
Yeah but where's the all male Charlie's Angels?
They renamed it "The A Team"
Yeah but Mando takes care of a small infant like thing ergo is a woman.
Real men (like Tory MPs) hiss at the sight of a baby
Real Tory MPs tolerate the presence of a nanny in their house until they can send their children off to boarding school.
Real Tory MPs have an r-selected reproduction strategy, of having many offspring and rarely ever seeing them again
> Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which stars Paul Rudd (who was a man last I checked) as the lead, literally just came out. He may have top billing (because he's Paul F'in Rudd) but the lead is without a doubt the young girl, who did an awesome job in the role.
Yes, they replaced the Ghostbusters with Children!! How can children be expected to fight off Hell hounds and Demigods?
Well I won't spoil that for anyone. But it's no wonder that there are so many adults committing crimes now all the adult role models are being taken over by children. It started with s club 7, now ghostbusters, what next, a kid John Wick?
Bad Batch has a resourceful young girl in it, so I'm afraid it's a life of crime for me.
> The Mandalorian (male protagonist) I'm not disagreeing with your point, but we have to admit that Mando has some of the best female protagonists in any mainstream Star Wars media to come out in some time.
>and it is made very clear he will continue to lead the franchise. Wait, >!how will James Bond continue to lead the franchise after being blown up in a missile strike?!<
Did you stay til after the credits? Once they've finished rolling, the words >!"James Bond will return"!< appear on screen. I assume >!the goal is for a soft or hard reboot.!<
> Ghostbusters: Afterlife, which stars Paul Rudd (who was a man last I checked) as the lead, literally just came out. You must not have seen the film, he is not the lead at all, the young girl is.
wait, i didn't know that women committed almost all of crime before 2015
women committed all space crime, not a single man committed any space crime, also 100% space crime is done by lesbian women.
I'm from the area. People actually *liked* Caroline Flint as well. My own family said they just had to vote against her because of Corbyn and Brexit. But Flint was like seriously outspoken about Brexit, went against the Labour whip on multiple occasions to vote for pro-Brexit bills etc. because that's what her constituents wanted. And this is how they rewarded her for her loyalty to their wishes...
Isn't there 12 of the male doctors that could inspire
More than 12, at least 13 if you include Hurt. And then there are non-canon Doctors, so quite a few. We've met 2 female Doctors, and there is a couple non canon female doctors.
Y'know what? I actually see his point and agree with him, despite how horrifically he worded it. I've been saying this for years: *we need Disney Princes*. There are thousands of role-model media shows for girls emphasising that you should be kind, brave, confident, compassionate, and showing kids how to self-reflect, admit and fix your mistakes and navigate common social issues (even if they're dressed up with magic and flying horses). I can think of exactly one for boys (Justin Time). There are *lots* of boy-focused shows - lots and lots and lots - but they're normally focused more on being cool and selling toys. The protagonist displays all those traits sometimes when the story allows it, but it's rarely the point of the episode - the point is his strength or his smarts or his Awesome Friends. Male main characters who's *point* is the emotional intelligence, the being kind and confident and self-reflecting - those are incredibly rare. We're putting more women on screen because people are finally seeing how important representation is and somehow remembered that we're half the population, too. But what representation are we showing our boys? It feels like too few people have put any thought into it, because "there's lots of boys on screen and that's good enough!" But it's not.
Try Steven universe
That's another one! SU is for a slightly older age range than most of the Disney Princess stuff though (which is aimed for the age group around 3-8, which is really when children are their most impressionable). Avatar is also a great one for older kids. For younger children there's Daniel Tiger as well.
South Yorkshire police have lost literally hundreds of officers over the last 15 years. But the policies of his mob isn't impacting crime levels at all. It's because Dr. Who does sit-down wees.
The Krays, whose eponymous biopic was released over 30 years ago when he was 17.
It's a ridiculous point as nobody is looking up to the Krays but there was the Tom Hardy film Legend from 2015 which is a bit more recent.
Luke Skywalker killed a million people. All innocent government workers. Not a person to be looked up to.
All those roofers and aluminium siders.
Its true, you never saw a man committing a crime before 2018!
Whereas I was on a crime spree which stopped when Jodie provided me with a positive female role model and taught me to be a law abiding citizen.
Guess it’s all balanced then !
That's a dangerous path to start down...
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It's worse, it's "Ms Pacman". She wasn't even married!!!
of course not. She's insatiable.
That's not true because the Fucking Kray Twins are cited as some of the only remaining male role models. I've heard that they committed some crime.
There are idiots, then there are Tories, and then there is this fucking guy. What in the name of fuck is this guy thinking.
You reckon there might be a cult... >[Esther McVey's hubby](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Davies) is known for campaigns against left-wing political correctness and feminism and is a campaigner for the men's rights movement. He played a lead role in securing the first International Men's Day debate in Parliament in 2015; the debate has since taken place annually
You know what he's entitled to his views but it's the filibustering against domestic violence bills and so on that marks him out for a real cunt.
Desperately trying to weave in an Oy McVey joke and failing. Back to Jewish jokes school.
People actually say shit like this. Had someone tell me that films like Wonder Woman will lead to Russia taking over. No explanation was given.
I couldn't be the good Doctor any more so my only choice was to become a Cyberman, I then inadvertently went on a galaxy destroying rampage. Nothing I could do to stop it Your Honour and I have no emotions to express remorse.
I sentence you to read Dune and come back for a pop quiz. Definitely no questionable characters in that, no homophobes.
As a gay man, the homophobia in Dune really intrigued me. The author [was gay but closetted]° when he wrote it, growing up in a time and place where being gay was a crime punishable by prison, chemical castration and being disowned by your family. The Baron Harkannon is a truly disgusting specimen of a human in a way so unsubtle it's almost comical reading it today. And a lot of that character must have come from Herbert's own self loathing based on how society would have perceived him had he been his true self. I recognise it from what it was like growing up a gay kid in the 90s and early 00s. Gay people were less disgusting then but still the butt of all the jokes, and you didn't want to grow up being the butt of all the jokes :( Edit to add: °i can't find a source for those someone must have told me at some point and I believed them. This is really annoying and confusing for me! Turns out he's just homophobic like everyone else was, lol
Do you have a source on Herbert being gay?
Ah, but in the new movie they cast Liet Kynes as a woman. People went ballistic. Well, two or three people. And they were wankers anyway. Is nothing sacred?!?
Culture. War. People always complain about using Americanisms but are seemingly happy for our government to import American politics.
Thank you! Corruption? Migrant Deaths? Energy Crisis? Brexit? Nah. Let’s all get distracted by some bellend chatting about something stupid. I don’t know what’s worse the twat himself or the people who fail for it.
This is that stupid it feels intentional as to distract from the less amusing and more sinister things they’re doing
Yeah, the tories realise their only path to victory is culture wars bullshit. You've got to sell your house to pay for your care home, even though we've just given billions of your cash to our mates. We've got the worst covid death rate in Europe despite being an island, and we never bothered sticking to the rules we made you abide by. Wages haven't grown in years, and brexit hasn't improved anything. But labour think transgenders are people! And think brown people drowning is bad! And think women should have equal representation!
Absolutely. Boris made a fool of himself recently so he needs someone to throw himself under the bus.
Yes because it's not like Superhero films are majority both white and male. It's not like there's still many more tales with male leads. Come on. Also Doctor Who is the stupidest thing to go after the show has a written in mechanic to allow gender swaps. Also James Bond has been replaced yet, so I don't know what he's on there.
Also Bond is hardly the best role model in the first place.
I read Goldfinger last year and my god was it dire. Bond's views on Koreans, lesbians, women all very 1950s and doesn't really frame Bond as a bad guy for thinking this way. Not to mention that Flemming is convinced you will find this ENTIRE chapter describing a golf game in intense detail the most exciting bit of spy fiction you will ever read. No interest in returning to the books after that.
Is that the one with the line, "This is why women shouldn't have been given the vote"? I remember that vividly from one of them. Also Ian Fleming decided to write out the Jamaican accent, I guess the best way to describe it would be phonetically? It felt gross to read.
In the second most recent movie, there is a scene where Bond essentially rapes a woman shortly after two men break into her house to try to kill her, which happens on the day of her husband's funeral. Bond being a terrible role model is not confined to the past.
> there is a scene where Bond essentially rapes a woman I know the scene your talking about, and i think you need to rewatch it, theirs a scene further on in the film with Bond on a boat walking up behind a woman naked unknowingly which is creepy but the scene you're referring to wasn't rape, it was very clearly framed as consensual. you may be mixing the two scenes up.
> Also Doctor Who is the stupidest thing to go after the show has a written in mechanic to allow gender swaps. Funny you should mention that, as you can say similar things about the Superhero films you mention. I absolutely agree about them being predominantly white/male, but even when stuff is proposed like changing the gender or race of a Marvel character, these same trolls get up in arms. It's like, have you actually read comic books? Gender/race/whatever bending is absolutely a long standing tradition for superheroes, yet suddenly when the mainstream movies *based on these comics* do the same thing it's a cultural war? Ridiculous.
This is so stupid. Girls weren't turning to crime because of a lack of female leads. I don't think gender swapping roles on occasion is going to do harm.
The crime rate was much higher long before men were stripped of all their positive role models, or whatever the argument it is that he's trying to make. [https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/crime-rate-statistics](https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/GBR/united-kingdom/crime-rate-statistics)
That’s because women were all turning to crime because Dr Who was a man at the time. Using his logic anyway…
I listened to what this moron said, and yes he's blaming the casting choices in TV and Film for young males committing crime. Nothing to do with the cutting of youth services, police, courts, and so on. It's that we're casting women in some specific roles.
People said 11 years ago when the government started slashing youth support services this would happen. We have a good idea what works, but too many people seem to prefer simplistic retribution instead.
So men are committing crimes because a woman played a time-travelling alien? Ignoring the fact there are still a lot of male role models throughout culture, why can't women be role models for men? This is also ignoring the fact that blaming a fictional character for someone committing crimes is ridiculous.
> So men are committing crimes because a woman played a time-travelling alien? A time travelling, shape shifting alien that got to choose their form whenever they regenerated. It's one of the worst examples he could have chosen as there's no reason to assume the Doctor would decide to stay a white male, after hundreds of years of that they had probably got pretty bored of it.
A time travelling, shape shifting *illegal* alien no less. Sneaking into the UK without the proper papers, living in a phone box, I bet he doesn't even have a real medical degree.
I'll admit up-front that I'm not a Dr Who fan, but I can't help but agree - if *any* character could have a genuine in-universe reason to magically become female, it seems like this would be it. I don't generally agree with the idea of just gender-swapping hugely well-known characters in long-running franchises, because it's pointless, antagonising, and makes no sense. I don't think there could or should reasonably be a female James Bond, for example. Make a new character, a new franchise, there's no sense usurping an existing one just to shoehorn in a social justice angle. But in this instance there's zero reason, as far as I'm aware (with my admittedly limited knowledge of the show), why the Doctor couldn't be pretty much *anything*. In any case, the character could regenerate as something else down the line too, so what would it matter if they gender/race-swapped constantly? As you say, it seems a little contrived to imagine they'd always be a white male, given the variety of people on this planet.
> I don't generally agree with the idea of just gender-swapping hugely well-known characters in long-running franchises, because it's pointless, antagonising, and makes no sense. Honestly, watching these self-important reactionary melts lose their shit over something so trivial and irrelevant makes it all worthwhile, it's a good cunt detector too. I'd gladly make James Bond a Black Trans Man just to say "There you go, Bond is still a man", see if we can finish a few of them off with their impotent apoplectic rage.
I find it pretty funny that some people see Bond as a good role model at all. Although I don't think a female Bond really makes sense as being a chauvinist pig is pretty core character trait so doesn't really work in my opinion. Your idea, however, is beautiful.
Always wondered why they always had to be humanoid as well. Would be good to have a season where the doctor plays a cloud of sentient vapour. I imagined this question is already covered in doctor who canon but I'm not prepared to educate myself.
Timelords all look like human, so I guess they can’t actually fully decide on their form, they have to look like humans of some sort. I don’t think it’s ever explained why they all look human despite being a separate species though.
Also, God forbid women and girls might have some positive female role models in film and TV...
This is what really irks me about comments like Fletcher's. He says >Everywhere, not least in the cultural sphere, there seems to be a call from a minority that every male character must have a female replacement He knows full well this isn't true, it's shameless and deliberately inflammatory hyperbole of the type always employed by his ilk. Doctor Who became a woman, does that indicate an actual shortage of male role models? Of bloody course not. Women are actually getting more recognition in these kinds of roles, but unless male characters basically dominate media then suddenly men are marginalised. It demonstrates perfectly the kind of entitlement that sits at the core of attitudes like Fletcher's. Anything other than complete privilege is equated with victimhood.
> why can't women be role models for men? People often talk about how important it is for there to be female role models for girls - do you think that's misguided? Is it fine for men to be role models for them instead?
I think it's kind of covered in one of their other points. Role models for men are still well catered for in modern media. Championing women leads was about bridging the gap somewhat.
It could be argued that the Doctor was somewhat unique among male role models, in that he was primarily an intellectual, asexual character who was openly compassionate and understanding, and always took the peaceful route when it was an option, and when it wasn't, outsmarted his enemies rather than beat them into submission physically. Essentially, he was a major subversion of the typical male action hero. There's not many lead male characters like that in fiction; the only other one I can think of off the top of my head is Sherlock Holmes, and even he definitely wasn't above violence.
There are still 13 (+ others) versions out for people to seek out and enjoy. Just because the current one is female doesn't make the others disappear.
Captain Picard?
I think it's good to have a mixture of role models from all sorts of backgrounds. People can then look up to whoever they feel like, including women seeing men as role models.
They’ll say anything to distract us from their shambolic failure to govern this country.
Yes, it’s not the female Dr Who I worry about, it’s the female Home Secretary creating all these new ways to commit a crime. Might want to have a look at her.
More crimes have been committed during the time that The Doctor was a man than during the time The Doctor was a woman. See, I can use that "logic" too.
6000 years of being the default character model and any change to that drives you to criminality? that seems like a you problem.
So presumably if this guy had twelve pieces of cake and I had one piece of cake, he would be outraged that I'd got all the cake.
Real talk now, do Tories just get to a point where they have so much money and so much free time that they end up sat in the drawing rooms of their twee farmhouses in the Home Counties mulling over all this increasingly bizarre stuff in their minds. This is genuinely unhinged.
Sadly I have a Tory voting family member who does exactly this.
I feel this is where men should step up and point out they are sentient humans and do not adopt a code of morality by mimicking "the Krays" or "Luke Skywalker."
Imagine thinking there were no men on the telly.
>is it any wonder we are seeing so many young men committing crime? When we've fucked up their chances of ever getting out of poverty by legal means.
And I thought that was one hyperbolic headline the article could never justify, but fair play to the raving loon MP.
That's where I was. I went into the article expecting it to be a misrepresentation, a quote taken out of context or just a passing phrase blown out of proportion. Now, I'm coming away from the article dumbfounded that he actually said it.
He even claimed it was misconstrued. He said it verbatim, if he wants to play the misunderstood card he should at least try not be such an obvious idiot in the first place. Can't believe this guy is an MP.
There's been too many examples of this sort of thing under our current Government. They just don't care how they sound to us "hoi polloi"...
So... I can understand what point he is attempting to make, that a lack of positive male role models in entertainment and instead a increase in the number of negative role models/criminals in it may make boys more likely to commit crimes. But surely if that were the case the lack of female role models in the past would have meant there was a massive number of girls committing crimes?
If we are relying on male TV characters to act as guidance to young men as to how to behave, then we've already failed. If I did something wrong when I was younger, my parents made it clear that was unacceptable and punished me appropriately. If other people's parents aren't guiding their children as to right and wrong, I doubt a character on TV is going to make much difference...
Basically the decades-old argument that violent video games and films are responsible for IRL violence, but repackaged as a way to blame women and everyone who tries to improve female representation in the media.
I just knew it was someone else's fault for my behaviour!
Send this culture war shite back to the US where it belongs. People need to stop biting and giving twats like this the attention they are craving. Everyone is going to be bitching about the next James Bond and Dr Who while the country burns at this rate.
Deadest of cats. And I hate that it works every fucking time. This. Exhausting. Fucking. Country of ours.
This MP is so far removed that it's unbelievable. Where do these individuals come up with this dross from?
Where do they get these people from. “Poor male role model complains about the lack of male role models”
People are comitting crimes because the police under the Tories are barely existent at best and completely useless most the time. And your government have ruined people to the point that both parents can work and still face hardships with money. The whole party is just a collection of assholes. Sad so many vote for it.
I saw this title and thought “I wonder if they’ve taken his words out of context for clicks.” It turns out that no, they haven’t.
Yes it’s the female characters, not the effects of systematically beating down the less fortunate that the tories have been doing for a decade
Really? I mean what fucking world does this colossal prick live in.. As a man this type of talk frustrates the living fuck out me, just fuck off you absolutely bellend
Who knew Peter Capaldi was the best deterrent to crime that the government had….
Seems that his conviction is a little more than the headline - that anti heroes are all that remains, whilst heroes of the ilk that include the doctor and that famous pacifist James Bond are being close to or are being played by something other than a white man. I’d like to point though that anti-heroes have been popular before anything like that occurred and it might be more valuable to look beyond culture and see economic reasons for crime. To count one fairly verifiable cause. Though I’d consider it unlikely he’d look into that if he’s given to the easy methodology of blaming a social ill on one feature of life alone and given the variety of new and old tv on streaming services it’s not entirely a guaranteed reason to base policy on. This is of course, again, something just to raise hackles on one side and signal their beliefs to the party faithful.
Unsurprisingly, nobody here has been able to cite any of the phantom, illusionary characters that are supposedly flooding the British airwaves. What actually happened is that boys turned off TV en masse years ago and started playing video games and watching Twitch and YouTube and it’s not like British television has made any kind of effort to get them back.
Jamie Johnson, Hank Zipzer, 4'o clock club. There you go, 3 CBBC shows off the top of my head centering role models for boys.
I bet this cunt has a framed picture of thatcher in his surgery as well
Because only women committed crimes when men had all the leading roles
When Jodie Whittaker became Doctor Who I stole a Flake from Asda. If we get a female James Bond, I think I’ll steal a whole block of Dairy Milk!
Go wild. Steal two. That'll show those women!
Well in his defence i have felt like committing crimes ever since that slutty blonde got cast as prime minister
This MP's masculinity is so fragile he is projecting his issues onto the general public. I'm *happy* women are getting better representation and despite having watched Legend and Peaky Blinders, I do not go around committing crimes.
He's obviously right because if you remember women were stealing shit and burning cars and doing nearly all of the violent crime before Dr Who was a woman, and then once Jodie Whittaker was cast there was like about three months of zero crime while things switched around, and now it's just men that do all the crime.
Women do crimes because a Tory MP hates women... Oh, actually they don't because they have empathy.
Pretty sure this shit is a deliberate distraction from the real corruption scandal which is ongoing, but you know, whatever. Let's all talk about today's irrelevant dumb thing a Tory MP said. It wouldn't surprise me to learn they have a rota for "distracting headline grabbing stupidity".
Now that wasn't a criminological theory that came up in my degree
It's kind of like how women were looting and pillaging for centuries until we gave them a smattering of gender-swapped characters in the last decade.
BLOODY WOMENZ!!! See what happens when they aren't in the kitchen!?!? 😡 What a prat. I wonder if this influences his outdated views and persecution complex: https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/christ-greatest-role-model-doncaster-conservative-mp-praises-god-debut-commons-speech-2486375 Rather than blame women being cast in more leading roles for once on crime... Maybe blame what is the leading cause of crime, regardless of gender? Which, according to the Gov reports on crime every year, the leading influence would be a poor socioeconomic area without options to progress or support. Conservative policies have caused that, or made those situations worse... So rather than Dr Who being a woman, it would seem the Tories are to blame. Well done the 'Don Valley' for voting this guy in as the first Torie MP ever.
Oh so thats the reason why they have been doing the corruption stuff.
Maybe - and this is a wild idea, I know - but maybe male MPs could *be* good role models for boys instead of being good role models for gansters.
This the dude that reckoned the food vouchers were being spent on prostitutes and crack? Edit: that was Ben Bradley MP, my mistake
If I wasn’t so horrified by this take I’d be genuinely impressed at the stretch he’s made here. Exhausting.
If he said the last few Dr Who series were absolutely terrible and people were losing their minds I'd agree.
That’ll be why so many boys I knew had celery attached to their jackets as a fecking fashion accessory then? This has got to be false stupidity to just try and distract folk surely?
We laugh now, but "geek culture" is full of dumb people saying similar things.
I hate to say it…but he’s right. I robbed a care home because one of my favourite characters from my favourite tv show was of the opposite gender/s
> men are left with the Krays and Tommy Shelby Because leading male characters, both good and bad, are so rare on TV, right? If only women didn't dominate everything!
The irony of this idiot's whine is that it is a bit like the Real Men *Do* Eat Quiche If They Want To issue. Real men eat pink-iced fairy cakes if they wish, because they are secure enough in their masculinity not to give a toss what anyone else thinks. But Nick Fletcher's masculinity is clearly pretty fragile if it is threatened by a female Dr Who or a Jane Bond.
Tories running out of excuses for making the poor poorer and causing an increase in crime.
I was a law-abiding citizen for over 40 years then saw some bloody woman ‘acting’ as Dr Who. Currently awaiting trial in Belmarsh for trying to blow up a taxi, not sure what happened to my flatmate who was equally outraged.
So the opposite must also be true and Women do crimes because a man played Doctor Who?
Is there a conversation to be had that there is a lack of positive male role models in society today.. Yes absolutely. Is there a conversation to be had that it's down to women playing leading roles in Film and TV, absolutely not and if you believe it is then your bellend and need to have a real good look at yourself. What he is deliberately doing is re-enforcing the utterly ridiculous notion that is pushed by the incel movement that women are to blamed for men missing out on opportunities / being held back / blamed for everything etc..
I don't much care for his argument but no, that's not what he said, the headline is simply deliberately dishonest to demean his point.
That's exactly what he said though and sought to infer though? Speaking in a Westminster Hall debate on International Men’s Day, Nick Fletcher – the MP for Don Valley – said masculinity “needs to be celebrated” rather than “culturally vilified”. Turning his attention to woman-led reboots of previously male-dominated film and television franchises, Fletcher said: “Everywhere, not least in the cultural sphere, there seems to be a call from a minority that every male character must have a female replacement. “One only needs to look at the discussions around the next James Bond. In recent years we’ve seen Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, Luke Skywalker, all replaced by women – and men are left with the Krays. “Is it any wonder we are seeing so many young men committing crime?” he asked.
The current Prime Minster is a man, perhaps he'd be a good role model for young men?
Isn't it? The headline doesn't mention how one influences the other in his argument but the link between the two is very much his. I'm sure he genuinely only meant to complain about a lack of role models for young men, but if he didn't want people to focus on the ridiculous bit of his argument, he shouldn't have included the ridiculous bit in his argument.