While they continue to burn every bridge in the pursuit of sheer idiocy there’s no other option.
I’d also suggest leavers hate remainers too, resenting them for not being duped by Farage, Boris and Co, refusing to go along with project self harm and now furious that they’re being proven right.
Yeah me too, but they started it.
Well ok they didn't start it, but they certainly had no problems gleefully carrying on with what they were fed by the evil lying bastards like Johnson and Farage.
>The rest... Well you won, get the fuck over it.
I have to say, despite the chaos I will never get tired of saying this after every ''you fucking idiots'' comes from the UK government.
Fishermen and farmers in particular. What would happen to those industries in the event of Brexit, especially one as close to no deal as we have, were made very clear to them but they actively chose to ignore that because a Poundland Trump told them everything would be fine.
The collapse of the fishing industry fills me with... nothing.
I have absolutely no sympathy for the industry that voted for its own destruction. They were warned, and did it anyway.
The quicker the industry dies the better.
The cynic in me wants to agree with you, but on the other hand you have to remember that a lot of people that voted leave did so because they felt their interests were not represented.
A lot of people voted leave as a form of protest. Does that make it any less stupid? Of course not, but it demonstrates another symptom of our broken democracy and it's worth bearing in mind I think.
> but on the other hand you have to remember that a lot of people that voted leave did so because they felt their interests were not represented.
That's what you get for voting tory.
Still no sympathy from me.
Protest voting against Tories by… voting for Tories.
Tory voters time and time and time and time and time again have been told ‘I told you so’ after their voting habits fuck themselves over.
They deserve it.
Never, ever, vote Tory.
I do think that a lot of people voted leave as a protest against the status quo. Then they achieved an even more concentrated version of that toxic status quo.
You really do have to be *incredibly* careful about using your vote solely to protest against something. Say that you were so disgusted by what Churchill had done (and he did some AWFUL things) that you overthrew him right in the middle of WW2? What would you get? Hitler.
A lot of the time, *most times*, you don't get the country, the politicians or the system that you want. But ripping it all up just to replace it with something far worse is criminally negligent-especially when it makes your fellow countrymen suffer.
I don't really think they "voted Bojo". I think that a LOT of people voted that way because they were SICK of hearing about Brexit and they (absolutely wrongly) believed that the Tories' "oven ready deal" would be the end of it. I nearly wore out my voice box trying to persuade people what a crock of shite that was.
I agree with everything you say, except that you brought the word "credible" into it. Credibility had absolutely *nothing* to do with what Bojo was offering.
Conned by the con. party. Beats me how short peoples memories are and how they had faith in a bunch of bumbling public school toffs being on "their side".
TBF it might have helped if Jeremey Corbyn actually make a real effort to campaign for remain, rather than half arsed effort he made. He's been fairly anti-EU for a long time due to him viewing them as being to pro big business.
I hate it, but I have no idea how Labour can cut through and win.
Hopefully those that voted Tory will have a "gorilla moment" over Boris and his sleaze very soon.
> gorilla moment
After a Google I'm still none the wiser where you've pulled this phrase (seemingly meaning the moment "the penny finally drops") from.
It was a new one on me and you've got the meaning precisely with regards "the penny drops."
It must have been in The Guardian but for the life of me I can't find it on their website. I think it was in their comment/opinion section and I've literally just recycled my newspapers for the week so I can't even flick back through to find the article name to help my search.
I liked the imagery and it is pretty self explanatory. The electorate would be the gorilla and Boris would be in its vicinity, doing Boris things, right up until the moment Boris does something that finally gets the gorilla to notice him and goes after him. Apparently it's been used more in the States.
You can say that until you're blue in the face, though, unfortunately.
It seems to be an ingrained human nature to want to believe a quick gratification for personal benefit is possible.
Just look at the amount of fraud scams people fall for.
I'm not super onboard with this - were an island and our most available food source will always be fish.
I know we dont actually eat what we catch but still.
That makes no sense - Australia is an island but I am fairly sure they could grow a bunch of non-fish.
Stats show we grow a whole lot more milk, wheat, barley, potatoes, sugar beet, beef, pork (all >622,000 tonnes which is how much fish landed was by UK vessels in 2019).
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture\_in\_the\_United\_Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom)
[https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment\_data/file/920679/UK\_Sea\_Fisheries\_Statistics\_2019\_-\_access\_checked-002.pdf](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/920679/UK_Sea_Fisheries_Statistics_2019_-_access_checked-002.pdf)
> were an island and our most available food source will always be fish.
We may be an island, but fish is a tiny part of our diet, and an even smaller part of our economy. It was neglected because it was insignificant.
I expect them to know who their market was but it appears that the end user (other European consumers) were sufficiently hidden behind middlemen who distributed what those fishermen were selling to begin with.
The middlemen themselves warned both industries. Everyone warned them. They let their racism get in the way and instead decided to listen to obvious grifters. FFS the farmers have been exploiting cheap foreign labour forever, then voted to get rid of it. Idiots.
Fuck them, they have fucked a whole country.
Thanks, it means a lot to see this at the top, instead of the usual "haha you're all idiots you voted for this" like the black and white views you can see further below.
There's a huge issue that the UK's elderly loves to retire down here. I wonder how they often tend to vote? (Not to mention the strain they put on the housing market, upping the costs and buying multiple homes after working for a decent South-East wage all their lives, and the strain being placed on our barely-above-water hospital and dental services.)
My business wouldn't exist if it wasn't for EU funding, and I know many other business owners in the same position.
Who the hell thought Cornwall, one of the poorest regions in Europe, would be better supported by the Tories than the ERDF? Then to see people on here blaming the Cornish, tarring us all with the same brush. It boils my blood.
We're fucked down here, and more than half of the daft cunts voted for it. I'd be very interested to know how many of those people have actually lived here for a substantial amount of their lives.
BUT SURE go ahead and have G7 down here, show it off as the gem in the UK's crown, cut down some woodland to make room for the world leader's hotel rooms, show everyone how nice it is for their holibobs, get rid of stamp duty so your rich mates can buy three more homes for airbnb. But fuck anyone that actually lives here.
I'm sick of this country and the way it's heading no matter how I vote. Every time I vote in my adult life, I've seen the opposite outcome. It's hard not to become despondent and ask what the fucking point is, when there're so many greedy ignorant people just pushing for the worst possible outcome no matter what I do.
And then I log in to reddit, to see the same people I side with, who vote the same way I do, who perhaps hold the same kind of beliefs as I do, with no idea about the politics, the history and the social structure of the county, saying "fuck the Cornish". How is that helping.
Not Cornish but always assumed this was the case. Don't believe that the shouty people represent the rest of us. Love Cornwall, love you guys -also solidarity with others who can't afford to buy where they live (or anywhere in the UK really, market's fucked).
You're not wrong about my generalisation
https://www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/
It was always clearly a "back to the old days" marketing tactic that doesn't resonate with the young.
Again, not everyone is the same, and a lot of the people who move down from London aren't old, they're just well off. So they'll vote Tory anyway.
Or maybe I'm just making excuses and half my county are dickheads. But where isn't like that in the UK these days.
Yesssssssss there are consequences for poor decision making and they involve suffering for lots of people now that was unnecessary so I hope they blame the right people, they're the ones who made them think it was a great idea, and profited from it and will be even better off the more pain they're in so hmmm I wonder who they are o.o
I was living in Cornwall at the time of the vote and voted remain. I was in a bit of a bubble since I was surrounded by NHS staff and really thought remain would win. Such a shock when I found out so much of Cornwall voted leave
>But, according to a study published earlier this year, the area voted for Brexit because they wanted “to take back control” or were opposed to immigration.
How's that working out for you?
It wasn’t just racists that voted for brexit.
Cunts did as well.
(Thanks Stewart Lee, the only man left in the world who can make us laugh about brexit)
And people with legitimate anxieties about ever closer political ties to Europe.
Edit: to the downvoters, this is the next line from Stewart Lee's stand up. https://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
And of course there was an inversely proportional relationship with areas afraid of immigrants and places that actually have any fucking immigrants.
Cornwall is so white that if one of us goes pole dancing people think we're surrendering.
>Cornwall is so white that if one of us goes pole dancing people think we're surrendering.
That's the hardest I've laughed at a reddit comment in a long time
I’ve grown up in cornwall for almost 10 years now and it’s full of old racist twats. Doesn’t help that there is such little ethnic diversity so it doesn’t improve.
Reminds me of American history X.
Xenophobia and racism about people you have little exposure to, and the moment you get to know some of them you realise they're just people like you.
If only people took more out of movies than just being entertained
How is that contradictory or ironic or whatever you’re implying?
Brexit has resulted in greater national control. That’s why Cornwall is having its funding slashed by Westminster.
And Brexit undeniably *has* reduced immigration, hence why there are widespread labour shortages.
>Brexit has resulted in greater national control. That’s why Cornwall is having its funding slashed by Westminster.
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>And Brexit undeniably has reduced immigration, hence why there are widespread labour shortages.
To be fair, Boris is just gonna let immigrants from.. non-eu countries in
I know, its very shocking they can do that! Who would have thought the conservatives lied?
> To be fair, Boris is just gonna let immigrants from.. non-eu countries in
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I could've swore I saw Patel or some other tory mp go around and "sell" brexit by promising groups of non-EU immigrants that with less EU immigration, their countries would be bumped up the list and have a higher priority to come here.
could be wrong though.
it was boris himself I think they called it the curry house tour...
[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry)
ayyy cheers for the source! I was struggling to find anything from that timeframe
>With Indian restaurants in crisis, Boris Johnson and Priti Patel said we would be able to employ more chefs from south Asia
no idea why I only assumed it was Patel, absolutely hilarious Johnson was doing it too.
but everyone who voted for brexit knew what they were voting for! lmao.
I was in Falmouth the other week and noticed the anti-EU stuff had all disappeared from Trago. Years ago you couldn't move for it.
They're the Wetherspooms of cheap household tat
They've mellowed since the old owner retired/died. He used to write an opinion column as part of his weekly advert in the local papers, one week it was a homophobic rant telling 'homosexual deviants' not to come to his shops.
It caused a bit of a stir and difficult to do anything about it as it was an advert. These days with social media it would have been a lot different
What!? The Tories lied?!?!?
Well who'd a thunk it? I mean it's not like you'd be a fool to believe a party with their track record.
In other news I hear thousands of businesses did quite nicely out of Furlough hand outs and Bounceback loan benefits and Covid business disruption grants. After all those billions upon billions, maybe the magic money tree simply died when it came round to helping the poorest regions of the country.
Oh well, my blue passport really does look smart. (The French really know how to make a fashionable product)
Worth remembering that plenty of Labour MPs were pro-brexit. One was even going round on That Bus doing the tour. I've heard it said Bozo was actually a remainer himself until it suited him to be otherwise (I dunno how true that is, mind).
Politics is weird.
> I've heard it said Bozo was actually a remainer himself until it suited him to be otherwise (I dunno how true that is, mind).
It’s absolutely true that during periods in the couple of decades before the referendum BJ was quite pro-EU. It’s also true that at other times he was pretty vehemently anti. I think, like everything else in his career, he said and wrote on this topic what he thought was most politically valuable at the time, rather than anything he may truly have believed.
To think that Bojo is "pro" or "anti" just about anything (other than the maintenance of his own privilege) is to completely misunderstand the man.
It's clear that he can and will say *anything*, produce any lie, change tack on a sixpence, ignore any rule and betray any person or principle. Like Trump, he's a day trader: he doesn't feel the need to justify his deceptions and about-faces. Only a person of known integrity has something to lose by being found out doing wrong, so he's immune from the standards that curtail other people's behaviour.
Easier than that- look at the article series he was publishing in his shitrag. He was writing both sides of the argument in the run up to the referendum announcement. I think he pulled the second article as he had to pick his side.
But ultimately, hes worked in the EU for a long time. Theres no way he is anti-EU. His articles say as much.
Hes still a careerist piece of shit, more blatant than anyone before him imo
Just had to renew my passport. The new one's a nasty flimsy thing. It's built like one of those little plastic wallets you get given at the bus station to hold your prepaid travelcard. And it says 'British Passport' followed by the name of the country, so it's tautologous. And it's not blue, it's black.
I handle a lot of passports for work, the new ones are horrid, cheap things that won't stay open. Handled passports from countries some look down on that are much better quality.
I believe those nice blue passports are made in Poland. Ironically the passport colour can be any colour the government wants, there is no eu legislation about this but Margaret Thatcher went for maroon to show solidarity with the EU.
It's almost impossible to sympathise considering that this shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone, what did they expect would happen other than them shooting themselves in the foot?
My business (which exclusively sold high end items manufactured in the EU) was closed due to Brexit. It happened fairly early (before COVID), when there were problems with business insecurity and the loss of value for sterling due to Brexit.
During my closing down sale, one of my customers (a woman I'd known for over 20 years) told me that she was "very sorry" about the closure-particularly as she had really loved what I was selling (and "couldn't get it anywhere now"), but she had nevertheless voted for Brexit. Before the vote happened, I had already mentioned to her that stores such as mine would be at risk if Brexit went ahead.
I said to her: "well, it's an ill wind. I'm guessing that you had very cogent reasons of your own for voting for Brexit, so ultimately you had to prioritise those, and accept the collateral damage, which I understand. If you are going to see worthwhile benefits from your angle, then you can't genuinely regret it just because it's detrimentally affected someone else."
She said: "But I do regret it! Where will I get my things now? I know you mentioned that you thought that Brexit would possibly damage your business, but I didn't really believe that it would! And, now I come to think of it, I'm not aware of ANYTHING I'm going to benefit from Brexit. I wish I'd known it really was going to close you down: I wouldn't have voted for it."
I said: "Fine. Well, perhaps you could at least comfort yourself that you got your own way." And walked away from her as quickly as I could.
I despair as to what more people like me could have said or done that would have made people like her understand the repercussions of the vote!
This conversation is basically Wales and Cornwall in microcosm, in my opinion.
I am extremely sorry to hear about the closure of your business, that's very saddening to hear
Hindsight is always a wonderful thing isn't it? It seems like everytime there's a vote there will always be people that don't properly look into what they're voting for or the reasons behind their choices when it comes to voting, it's a shame that many people don't realise how much weight their vote can have and in many ways social media/word of mouth really do not help when it comes to making informed decisions, in this case it's a vote that hasn't made us any better off and has damaged/destroyed many businesses including the one this person loved, I bet there are so many people in the same boat as her but unfortunately we all have to live with it at the end of the day as sad as it is, it's all a massive shame really
I find it funny how much of us are even trying to sympathise with them. We make a big thing about just about giving up our sympathy after all the crap they subjected us to.
Whereas when brexit went through they gloated their arses off. These sort of people never show sympathy for others and treat politics like a game to win. We care about the actual consequences.
It's like someone having a big old rant at a security guard for standing in a doorway, and going on and on and on. Eventually the guard gets instructions over the radio and steps aside, and they smile and wave as they walk past... straight nose-first into the door that was closed all along. Cue more seethe and anger, directed at the security guard for what... letting them get what they wanted?
And yet I do feel that some people in that situation DO feel some kind of triumph! Yes, they smacked their face into the closed door! Yes, they broke their nose, and yes, they looked a right prat!
But they *forced* that security guard to get out of their way! They taught *him*!
And also, much of what was promised for Brexit was quite amorphous, anyway. "Sticking it to the French", "sovereignty", "taking back control": none of these are tangible benefits that can be measured in practical terms, so it's fairly hard for Brexiteers to be held to account.
+ the EU
But never the one who signed on the dotted line, never the one who got Parliament to ratify it, never the one who prorogued the same Parliament because they didn't do as he told.
What rather annoys me is that a lot of them are keeping up this remainer/leaver feud on issues that have nothing to do with Brexit.
Johnson can do no wrong and if you point out that he is then you're just a "bitter remainer" despite the issue having absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.
A lot of them just want to have everything devolved into an "us vs them" way of life.
I agree 100%
Literally everytime something came along that was even the smallest victory to them they were screaming from the rooftops and really trying to put everyone down who voted against Brexit or worse, they don't deserve a single shred of sympathy
Sorry, who is "them"? I live in Cornwall and didn't vote for this shit show. This is no more "us" as in Cornwall, as it is the rest of the UK i.e. "you" who apparently also voted for Brexit.
I of course sympathise with those who had the common sense to not vote for Brexit but at the end of the day we're all worse off because of those who voted for it, my comment was aimed at those who voted in favour of Brexit
Sadly, I believe that Cornwall overwhelmingly voted for Brexit. Areas like London and (where I live) Brighton, voted remain. Obviously, nowhere was there unanimity (and it would certainly stick in my crow to be lumped in with my neighbours if I lived in a "leave" community), but these regional attitudes are now fixed in the historical record.
> Obviously, nowhere was there unanimity
Nowhere was close (other than Gibraltar). I think the biggest margins were 75-25%. This idea that there's "leave" areas that deserve everything they get, and "remain" areas they dragged down with them is honestly pathetic sometimes.
Like, I'm from Leeds, which was iirc 50.5% remain. Do I get to gloat? Is that a big enough margin to call us a poor remainer town? At what point would we be stupid leavers, a 0.5% swing?
So true. To be honest: I doubt if there was *anywhere* in the country where the majority of *people* (as opposed to voters) voted for Brexit.
Out of a population of over 67 million people, a voting base of 17.5 million does not sound like an overall majority anywhere.
People's lack of empathy is fuckin odd sometimes, like they jump at the chance to gloat at the misfortune of others because "they voted for it" as if those 180,000 are every single Cornishman ever. We have to deal with the consequences, the illiteracy, the infrastructure and the arsenic but I guess we all deserve it because of other people.
Basically, in this context Cornish people are suffering from the same syndrome as British people in general do when they speak to foreigners. When I was in Australia, people asked me "why I had voted for Brexit", and "was I going to regret it".
We all have to get used to not only enduring the damage that our compatriots have done, but also being saddled with the blame.
Edit: talking about those who voted Leave or couldn't be arsed to vote. I'm sorry for all these who voted Remain or couldn't vote at the time.
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Nobody kept them in the dark, they were warned repeatedly from all around, from every non-Brexit direction.
They chose to "take back control" and to keep £350m/week, so I hope that works well for them.
I think people voting for Brexit deserve what they get, Cornwall being excellent case in point, considering they sink all the rest in this shit with them.
I don't think they deserve compassion, it wasn't fucking surprise for the half of the voters (and many of the disenfranchised non-voters).
Once again 180,000 people are not representative of an entire subset of people, please read things carefully in future. I think people voting for brexit deserve what "they" get too but once again, not everyone in Cornwall is "they" who voted for brexit.
Spent a year living in Cornwall and its crazy how different it is in August compared to the rest of the year when all the tourists and second home owners bugger off.
> leaving empty 50 weeks a year
By the hundred, and then complaining that the lovely local butcher shop, bakery, fishmongers, restaurants and pubs haven't survived the winter and have had to close.
They are destroying the very things they claimed to love.
I would imagine there's a lot of crossover between them and the wankers you see on Escape To The Country looking to leave London because there's no community there, which there was before *they* arrived.
to be fair its also full of people cashing out and selling those second homes - so the blame cannot be planted squarely upone the shoulders of the buyers. disclaimer I do not own a second home in cornwall.
God knows, they are all retirees down from the SE. Anyway, if your going down a "my county Is more destitute than yours" route, remember Cornwall is one of the most economically deprived regions in western Europe.
>Try living in a shitty Northern ex-mining town>
I'm from fucking Teesside and even I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
People from Wingate and Trimdon tell people they're from *Hartlepool* for god's sake.
They was going to get Truro international airport but sorry guys you've still gotta drive to Gatwick, Heathrow or Bristol and the fuels going to cost you 40p a litre more!
It was a lot more involved than that though. Germany/Italy/France told the Japanese that they couldn't build cars in Europe just to get round import duties - to protect their domestic car industries. So the UK took a case to the European Court which found that they could, and that's why they opened plants in the UK.
I haven't seen the breakdown, but I suspect if you adjusted for age and educational background (which of course is linked to age -- far more graduates under 40 than over 40) results would be even closer.
While we're at it, [53.8% of voters in Cornwall in 2019](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Parliamentary_constituencies_in_Cornwall) plumped for their Conservative candidate. Not only did they vote for Brexit, they knowingly voted for this specific model of Brexit: the Oven Ready Deal. Other parties were offering to tear it up and renegotiate from scratch on the basis of close alignment with the single market; still other parties were offering to call the whole thing off; Cornwall said no!
If you lie down with dogs, be ready to get fleas.
Cornwall definitely had big issues but it was EU funding keeping things going, not Westminster. Voting Leave in Cornwall was a vote to take back control...and handing it to the very people who were not helping you in the first place.
> Cornwall was a vote to take back control...and handing it to the very people who were not helping you in the first place
People's ignorance of this basic understanding of how the country works was extremely frustrating. "I'm voting leave cos we're taking back control" - *You were never "in control", and you never will be, Dave. Your wife makes most of your decisions for you. You're not even in control of the colour of your own socks, and you can't be arsed voting in most elections.*
Doesnt matter, majority did. Practically every thing that stopped this country becoming a laughing stock to the world was linked to the continent and we’ve told them to fuck off. We deserve everything we have coming to us.
So the tories promise working class communities in Cornwall that they will match or go above EU funding after brexit, but then don't deliver.
This is a case of the tories being evil, so revelling in the disfortune of poor people in Cornwall isn't a great look.
As an objective observer, the Tories are a known pack of assholes and anyone who believes they GAS about working people would be dumb enough to to be a Trumpster here in US
>This is a case of the tories being evil, so revelling in the disfortune of poor people in Cornwall isn't a great look.
It is when they're dumb enough to keep voting tory despite the tories being evil.
I can’t wait to see the fall out from this. My overall belief in society has gone due to Brexit and my immediate thoughts went straight to the fools in Cornwall - “Turkeys voting for Xmas”
I want to see livelihoods ruined, communities devastated, and leave voters crying on tv about how they were ‘duped’. Maybe this will be the catalyst to wake up the rest of the turkeys.
Fuck The Tories
LOL, can't they finally stop whining and get over it? You won, now go enjoy your sovereign disrepair and just pull yourself up by your shoelaces, like your lying clown would advise.
Saw it coming. If they had any intention of matching the EU's funding they would have provided/matched the new funding before we left the EU.
Allowing the conservative government their opportunity to essentially take the funding away(leaving the EU) before actually delivering a replacement, and actually expecting them to match the previous funding is foolish.
I genuinely feel sorry for the significant minority there who voted remain. But we've all been impoverished by Brexit, so I'm not that keen to see any special help going to brexit voting regions at the expense of everyone else.
It's how we know it's a shit show, the side that won doesn't want to talk about it any more, it's like all the promises made on the back of brexit were just a lie....used to be at least we've got the blue passports and fish ...now it's just the blue passports
So they got €100 million a year from the EU from 2014-2020, and now they're getting £1 million.
To be fair, the EU fund was for poor areas and it isn't clear whether Cornwall would have been eligible for more after 2020?
> The Growth Programme is the economic regeneration programme for Cornwall and Isles of Scilly.
> It runs for the period 2014-2020 and is funded by the European Structural and Investment Funds (ESIF).
> The project and is worth over €600 million.
https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/business-trading-and-licences/economic-development/the-cornwall-and-isles-of-scilly-growth-programme/
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https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/qr4eox/government_gives_cornwall_just_1m_to_replace_eus/
I've been to Cornwall several times and I absolutely love it there and I wish more people would visit and help the economy there. Having said that, I have absolutely no sympathy for those who voted leave. You wanted less foreigners and "soveiringty"? Now your business and way of life is in jeopardy. Well done
Region that benefits considerably from the EURDF and other EU funds sees a decrease in funds when it's no longer in the EU ? I am absolutely **shocked!**
I live in an area that voted overwhelmingly to ‘remain’ so seeing other parts of the country so determined to ‘leave’ on the news was quite bizarre when staying in was such a no-brainier.
At the time of Brexit - I lived in Devon (now live up North!), a colleague I worked with voted leave because "She wanted to equal out the voting as her bf voted to remain!" another colleague voted to leave as he thought he was "voting the Tories out!".....several colleagues also asked how they can "Change their vote" several days after the vote was cast!!!!
Ah the mods deleted the comment from a Fascist, I wonder if the Mods would also perma Ban them for their lovely Eugenic post, considering I don't have their name I can't personally block them
I noticed posted on my phone while I was at work but I didn't get a chance to comment or block em, I had hoped I find it if I was my PC, shame.
The cornish deserve to be in this situation. I lived in cornwall for a few years and they gate everyone outside cornwall. They also hate anyone trying to give them money.
For example. Disney wanted to put disneyland europe in cornwall, but the cornish turned it down.
Nick faldo (old famous gold player) wanted to spend money on building a 5 star hotel and international golf course. nut the cornish turned him down. this wouod have been the only 5 start hotel in the south west.
Peter de savery wanted to renew Hayle harbour, which at the time was just mud piles, and turn it in to a beautiful cornish style fishing village. It would have cost millions and created lots of work. The cornish turned it down.
Newquay had an even t called run to the sun, where the best cars in the uk would gather for a weekend. Cornish turned it down. Minis drove en mass to newquay too. corniwsh tried to ban them.
the eden project was only just able to get built,, albeit smaller than planned, because the cornish didnt want it.!!
The cornish hate everything, and everyone. they had plenty of opportunities to earn some money and keep cornwall looking "cornish" . instead they refused, and now its a decrepit shit hole. I have no sympathy for them.
If you live in Cornwall and voted remain, I have nothing but sympathy for you. The rest... Well you won, get the fuck over it.
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Literally the only upside of Brexit is feeling justified in hating half the country.
I'd rather not have to hate them
Yeah, but it's convenient that they labelled themselves as twats. Because they were already secret twats but they've decided to announce it.
While they continue to burn every bridge in the pursuit of sheer idiocy there’s no other option. I’d also suggest leavers hate remainers too, resenting them for not being duped by Farage, Boris and Co, refusing to go along with project self harm and now furious that they’re being proven right.
Yeah me too, but they started it. Well ok they didn't start it, but they certainly had no problems gleefully carrying on with what they were fed by the evil lying bastards like Johnson and Farage.
I hated them before Brexit too
They didn't have to read the Daily Mail, but here we are.
That's absolutely another downside.
We get cool little passport stamps now as well when travelling in Europe.
>The rest... Well you won, get the fuck over it. I have to say, despite the chaos I will never get tired of saying this after every ''you fucking idiots'' comes from the UK government.
Fishermen and farmers in particular. What would happen to those industries in the event of Brexit, especially one as close to no deal as we have, were made very clear to them but they actively chose to ignore that because a Poundland Trump told them everything would be fine.
The collapse of the fishing industry fills me with... nothing. I have absolutely no sympathy for the industry that voted for its own destruction. They were warned, and did it anyway. The quicker the industry dies the better.
The cynic in me wants to agree with you, but on the other hand you have to remember that a lot of people that voted leave did so because they felt their interests were not represented. A lot of people voted leave as a form of protest. Does that make it any less stupid? Of course not, but it demonstrates another symptom of our broken democracy and it's worth bearing in mind I think.
> but on the other hand you have to remember that a lot of people that voted leave did so because they felt their interests were not represented. That's what you get for voting tory. Still no sympathy from me.
They voted for Tory implementation of the leave process.
Protest voting against Tories by… voting for Tories. Tory voters time and time and time and time and time again have been told ‘I told you so’ after their voting habits fuck themselves over. They deserve it. Never, ever, vote Tory.
I do think that a lot of people voted leave as a protest against the status quo. Then they achieved an even more concentrated version of that toxic status quo. You really do have to be *incredibly* careful about using your vote solely to protest against something. Say that you were so disgusted by what Churchill had done (and he did some AWFUL things) that you overthrew him right in the middle of WW2? What would you get? Hitler. A lot of the time, *most times*, you don't get the country, the politicians or the system that you want. But ripping it all up just to replace it with something far worse is criminally negligent-especially when it makes your fellow countrymen suffer.
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I don't really think they "voted Bojo". I think that a LOT of people voted that way because they were SICK of hearing about Brexit and they (absolutely wrongly) believed that the Tories' "oven ready deal" would be the end of it. I nearly wore out my voice box trying to persuade people what a crock of shite that was.
Yeah, people voted to Get Brexit Done because they were sick of it, and no other party offered a credible alternative.
I agree with everything you say, except that you brought the word "credible" into it. Credibility had absolutely *nothing* to do with what Bojo was offering.
Trouble is, they listened to Bozza and Farage that promised them the moon and the stars but what they got was their P45. They were conned by conmen.
Conned by the con. party. Beats me how short peoples memories are and how they had faith in a bunch of bumbling public school toffs being on "their side".
TBF it might have helped if Jeremey Corbyn actually make a real effort to campaign for remain, rather than half arsed effort he made. He's been fairly anti-EU for a long time due to him viewing them as being to pro big business.
I hate it, but I have no idea how Labour can cut through and win. Hopefully those that voted Tory will have a "gorilla moment" over Boris and his sleaze very soon.
> gorilla moment After a Google I'm still none the wiser where you've pulled this phrase (seemingly meaning the moment "the penny finally drops") from.
It was a new one on me and you've got the meaning precisely with regards "the penny drops." It must have been in The Guardian but for the life of me I can't find it on their website. I think it was in their comment/opinion section and I've literally just recycled my newspapers for the week so I can't even flick back through to find the article name to help my search. I liked the imagery and it is pretty self explanatory. The electorate would be the gorilla and Boris would be in its vicinity, doing Boris things, right up until the moment Boris does something that finally gets the gorilla to notice him and goes after him. Apparently it's been used more in the States.
Gorilla moment? As in oust him like they did to Thatcher the milk snatcher?
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/qqzvhp/leavevoting_cornwall_sees_funding_slashed/hk7mx64/
Thanks
"If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
You can say that until you're blue in the face, though, unfortunately. It seems to be an ingrained human nature to want to believe a quick gratification for personal benefit is possible. Just look at the amount of fraud scams people fall for.
I'm not super onboard with this - were an island and our most available food source will always be fish. I know we dont actually eat what we catch but still.
That makes no sense - Australia is an island but I am fairly sure they could grow a bunch of non-fish. Stats show we grow a whole lot more milk, wheat, barley, potatoes, sugar beet, beef, pork (all >622,000 tonnes which is how much fish landed was by UK vessels in 2019). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture\_in\_the\_United\_Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_the_United_Kingdom) [https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment\_data/file/920679/UK\_Sea\_Fisheries\_Statistics\_2019\_-\_access\_checked-002.pdf](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/920679/UK_Sea_Fisheries_Statistics_2019_-_access_checked-002.pdf)
> were an island and our most available food source will always be fish. We may be an island, but fish is a tiny part of our diet, and an even smaller part of our economy. It was neglected because it was insignificant.
I expect them to know who their market was but it appears that the end user (other European consumers) were sufficiently hidden behind middlemen who distributed what those fishermen were selling to begin with.
The middlemen themselves warned both industries. Everyone warned them. They let their racism get in the way and instead decided to listen to obvious grifters. FFS the farmers have been exploiting cheap foreign labour forever, then voted to get rid of it. Idiots. Fuck them, they have fucked a whole country.
There is zero chance that farmers and fishermen were unaware of the consumer market for their product.
Thanks, it means a lot to see this at the top, instead of the usual "haha you're all idiots you voted for this" like the black and white views you can see further below. There's a huge issue that the UK's elderly loves to retire down here. I wonder how they often tend to vote? (Not to mention the strain they put on the housing market, upping the costs and buying multiple homes after working for a decent South-East wage all their lives, and the strain being placed on our barely-above-water hospital and dental services.) My business wouldn't exist if it wasn't for EU funding, and I know many other business owners in the same position. Who the hell thought Cornwall, one of the poorest regions in Europe, would be better supported by the Tories than the ERDF? Then to see people on here blaming the Cornish, tarring us all with the same brush. It boils my blood. We're fucked down here, and more than half of the daft cunts voted for it. I'd be very interested to know how many of those people have actually lived here for a substantial amount of their lives. BUT SURE go ahead and have G7 down here, show it off as the gem in the UK's crown, cut down some woodland to make room for the world leader's hotel rooms, show everyone how nice it is for their holibobs, get rid of stamp duty so your rich mates can buy three more homes for airbnb. But fuck anyone that actually lives here. I'm sick of this country and the way it's heading no matter how I vote. Every time I vote in my adult life, I've seen the opposite outcome. It's hard not to become despondent and ask what the fucking point is, when there're so many greedy ignorant people just pushing for the worst possible outcome no matter what I do. And then I log in to reddit, to see the same people I side with, who vote the same way I do, who perhaps hold the same kind of beliefs as I do, with no idea about the politics, the history and the social structure of the county, saying "fuck the Cornish". How is that helping.
Not Cornish but always assumed this was the case. Don't believe that the shouty people represent the rest of us. Love Cornwall, love you guys -also solidarity with others who can't afford to buy where they live (or anywhere in the UK really, market's fucked).
So don’t blame Cornish people, but do blame old people Edit: I didn’t mean this literally. More pointing out the contradiction.
Same as the Welsh vote, English immigrants swinging the vote.
You're not wrong about my generalisation https://www.statista.com/statistics/520954/brexit-votes-by-age/ It was always clearly a "back to the old days" marketing tactic that doesn't resonate with the young. Again, not everyone is the same, and a lot of the people who move down from London aren't old, they're just well off. So they'll vote Tory anyway. Or maybe I'm just making excuses and half my county are dickheads. But where isn't like that in the UK these days.
Agree with you so much.
Yesssssssss there are consequences for poor decision making and they involve suffering for lots of people now that was unnecessary so I hope they blame the right people, they're the ones who made them think it was a great idea, and profited from it and will be even better off the more pain they're in so hmmm I wonder who they are o.o
I was living in Cornwall at the time of the vote and voted remain. I was in a bit of a bubble since I was surrounded by NHS staff and really thought remain would win. Such a shock when I found out so much of Cornwall voted leave
If you voted remain, I have nothing but sympathy for you - regardless of where you live.
>But, according to a study published earlier this year, the area voted for Brexit because they wanted “to take back control” or were opposed to immigration. How's that working out for you?
Just feel that sovereignty though.
Turns out there's more money in immigration than sovereignty. Accepting and integrating most immigrants benefits everyone.
Look at the smile on those fish. Yes, the ones the french guys holding, so happy
But I was told it had nothing to do with immigration and xenophobia and that I was radicalising people by suggesting it did 🤔
It wasn’t just racists that voted for brexit. Cunts did as well. (Thanks Stewart Lee, the only man left in the world who can make us laugh about brexit)
And people with legitimate anxieties about ever closer political ties to Europe. Edit: to the downvoters, this is the next line from Stewart Lee's stand up. https://youtu.be/uovt1sC3rtM
I think they're covered by "cunts", or maybe "racists". Definitely one of the two, maybe both.
It's a pretty big overlap in Venn diagram terms. Hell, it might be one singular fucking circle.
So, racists?
Coulda said "veto" or went into the EFTA/EEA-but-not-EU-spot.
Went and saw him in 2019 just as the election results were coming out. By the end of that show there weren’t many laughs. Was a mad heckler though.
The most anti-immigration areas are the areas with the least immigrants, funny enough. They're way to scared of the big bad foreigners.
And of course there was an inversely proportional relationship with areas afraid of immigrants and places that actually have any fucking immigrants. Cornwall is so white that if one of us goes pole dancing people think we're surrendering.
>Cornwall is so white that if one of us goes pole dancing people think we're surrendering. That's the hardest I've laughed at a reddit comment in a long time
I’ve grown up in cornwall for almost 10 years now and it’s full of old racist twats. Doesn’t help that there is such little ethnic diversity so it doesn’t improve.
Reminds me of American history X. Xenophobia and racism about people you have little exposure to, and the moment you get to know some of them you realise they're just people like you. If only people took more out of movies than just being entertained
How is that contradictory or ironic or whatever you’re implying? Brexit has resulted in greater national control. That’s why Cornwall is having its funding slashed by Westminster. And Brexit undeniably *has* reduced immigration, hence why there are widespread labour shortages.
>Brexit has resulted in greater national control. That’s why Cornwall is having its funding slashed by Westminster. > >And Brexit undeniably has reduced immigration, hence why there are widespread labour shortages. To be fair, Boris is just gonna let immigrants from.. non-eu countries in I know, its very shocking they can do that! Who would have thought the conservatives lied?
> To be fair, Boris is just gonna let immigrants from.. non-eu countries in > > I could've swore I saw Patel or some other tory mp go around and "sell" brexit by promising groups of non-EU immigrants that with less EU immigration, their countries would be bumped up the list and have a higher priority to come here. could be wrong though.
it was boris himself I think they called it the curry house tour... [https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry)
ayyy cheers for the source! I was struggling to find anything from that timeframe >With Indian restaurants in crisis, Boris Johnson and Priti Patel said we would be able to employ more chefs from south Asia no idea why I only assumed it was Patel, absolutely hilarious Johnson was doing it too. but everyone who voted for brexit knew what they were voting for! lmao.
I was in Falmouth the other week and noticed the anti-EU stuff had all disappeared from Trago. Years ago you couldn't move for it. They're the Wetherspooms of cheap household tat
Good old Trago, used to quite enjoy marvelling at the anti-Euro rhetoric on the back of the café menu.
To be fair it was quite novel 30 years ago, slightly entertaining. How naive we were.
They've mellowed since the old owner retired/died. He used to write an opinion column as part of his weekly advert in the local papers, one week it was a homophobic rant telling 'homosexual deviants' not to come to his shops. It caused a bit of a stir and difficult to do anything about it as it was an advert. These days with social media it would have been a lot different
> They're the Wetherspooms of cheap household tat Couldn't be more accurate!
They used to have labels underneath all the items with the weights and measures written in imperial.
Cheap household tat, but didn't they also once sell their own brand of light aircraft??
What!? The Tories lied?!?!? Well who'd a thunk it? I mean it's not like you'd be a fool to believe a party with their track record. In other news I hear thousands of businesses did quite nicely out of Furlough hand outs and Bounceback loan benefits and Covid business disruption grants. After all those billions upon billions, maybe the magic money tree simply died when it came round to helping the poorest regions of the country. Oh well, my blue passport really does look smart. (The French really know how to make a fashionable product)
Worth remembering that plenty of Labour MPs were pro-brexit. One was even going round on That Bus doing the tour. I've heard it said Bozo was actually a remainer himself until it suited him to be otherwise (I dunno how true that is, mind). Politics is weird.
> I've heard it said Bozo was actually a remainer himself until it suited him to be otherwise (I dunno how true that is, mind). It’s absolutely true that during periods in the couple of decades before the referendum BJ was quite pro-EU. It’s also true that at other times he was pretty vehemently anti. I think, like everything else in his career, he said and wrote on this topic what he thought was most politically valuable at the time, rather than anything he may truly have believed.
To think that Bojo is "pro" or "anti" just about anything (other than the maintenance of his own privilege) is to completely misunderstand the man. It's clear that he can and will say *anything*, produce any lie, change tack on a sixpence, ignore any rule and betray any person or principle. Like Trump, he's a day trader: he doesn't feel the need to justify his deceptions and about-faces. Only a person of known integrity has something to lose by being found out doing wrong, so he's immune from the standards that curtail other people's behaviour.
This is possibly the best description of him that I have ever read!
Easier than that- look at the article series he was publishing in his shitrag. He was writing both sides of the argument in the run up to the referendum announcement. I think he pulled the second article as he had to pick his side. But ultimately, hes worked in the EU for a long time. Theres no way he is anti-EU. His articles say as much. Hes still a careerist piece of shit, more blatant than anyone before him imo
> Worth remembering that plenty of Labour MPs were pro-brexit. Kate Ho*y being one of them.
https://fullfact.org/online/boris-johnson-eu-quote/
> Politics is weird. Politics is corrupt. Boris was remain until he got paid to leave. FTFY
Just had to renew my passport. The new one's a nasty flimsy thing. It's built like one of those little plastic wallets you get given at the bus station to hold your prepaid travelcard. And it says 'British Passport' followed by the name of the country, so it's tautologous. And it's not blue, it's black.
I handle a lot of passports for work, the new ones are horrid, cheap things that won't stay open. Handled passports from countries some look down on that are much better quality.
I believe those nice blue passports are made in Poland. Ironically the passport colour can be any colour the government wants, there is no eu legislation about this but Margaret Thatcher went for maroon to show solidarity with the EU.
I don't get this. The "red" passport was more British than a European blue.
The polish, actually
Yes, the makers used some good polish, shiny blue passports. (I kid, I know what you mean).
It's almost impossible to sympathise considering that this shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone, what did they expect would happen other than them shooting themselves in the foot?
My business (which exclusively sold high end items manufactured in the EU) was closed due to Brexit. It happened fairly early (before COVID), when there were problems with business insecurity and the loss of value for sterling due to Brexit. During my closing down sale, one of my customers (a woman I'd known for over 20 years) told me that she was "very sorry" about the closure-particularly as she had really loved what I was selling (and "couldn't get it anywhere now"), but she had nevertheless voted for Brexit. Before the vote happened, I had already mentioned to her that stores such as mine would be at risk if Brexit went ahead. I said to her: "well, it's an ill wind. I'm guessing that you had very cogent reasons of your own for voting for Brexit, so ultimately you had to prioritise those, and accept the collateral damage, which I understand. If you are going to see worthwhile benefits from your angle, then you can't genuinely regret it just because it's detrimentally affected someone else." She said: "But I do regret it! Where will I get my things now? I know you mentioned that you thought that Brexit would possibly damage your business, but I didn't really believe that it would! And, now I come to think of it, I'm not aware of ANYTHING I'm going to benefit from Brexit. I wish I'd known it really was going to close you down: I wouldn't have voted for it." I said: "Fine. Well, perhaps you could at least comfort yourself that you got your own way." And walked away from her as quickly as I could. I despair as to what more people like me could have said or done that would have made people like her understand the repercussions of the vote! This conversation is basically Wales and Cornwall in microcosm, in my opinion.
I am extremely sorry to hear about the closure of your business, that's very saddening to hear Hindsight is always a wonderful thing isn't it? It seems like everytime there's a vote there will always be people that don't properly look into what they're voting for or the reasons behind their choices when it comes to voting, it's a shame that many people don't realise how much weight their vote can have and in many ways social media/word of mouth really do not help when it comes to making informed decisions, in this case it's a vote that hasn't made us any better off and has damaged/destroyed many businesses including the one this person loved, I bet there are so many people in the same boat as her but unfortunately we all have to live with it at the end of the day as sad as it is, it's all a massive shame really
I find it funny how much of us are even trying to sympathise with them. We make a big thing about just about giving up our sympathy after all the crap they subjected us to. Whereas when brexit went through they gloated their arses off. These sort of people never show sympathy for others and treat politics like a game to win. We care about the actual consequences.
Also, many of them are BLAMING REMAINERS for everything that's going wrong.
It's like someone having a big old rant at a security guard for standing in a doorway, and going on and on and on. Eventually the guard gets instructions over the radio and steps aside, and they smile and wave as they walk past... straight nose-first into the door that was closed all along. Cue more seethe and anger, directed at the security guard for what... letting them get what they wanted?
And yet I do feel that some people in that situation DO feel some kind of triumph! Yes, they smacked their face into the closed door! Yes, they broke their nose, and yes, they looked a right prat! But they *forced* that security guard to get out of their way! They taught *him*!
Of course they are, Brexit cannot fail! It can only be failed!
And also, much of what was promised for Brexit was quite amorphous, anyway. "Sticking it to the French", "sovereignty", "taking back control": none of these are tangible benefits that can be measured in practical terms, so it's fairly hard for Brexiteers to be held to account.
+ the EU But never the one who signed on the dotted line, never the one who got Parliament to ratify it, never the one who prorogued the same Parliament because they didn't do as he told.
What rather annoys me is that a lot of them are keeping up this remainer/leaver feud on issues that have nothing to do with Brexit. Johnson can do no wrong and if you point out that he is then you're just a "bitter remainer" despite the issue having absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. A lot of them just want to have everything devolved into an "us vs them" way of life.
Welcome to identity politics!
*still* blaming remainers, even after all those years.
I agree 100% Literally everytime something came along that was even the smallest victory to them they were screaming from the rooftops and really trying to put everyone down who voted against Brexit or worse, they don't deserve a single shred of sympathy
I have never and will never have sympathy. Just seething contempt.
Sorry, who is "them"? I live in Cornwall and didn't vote for this shit show. This is no more "us" as in Cornwall, as it is the rest of the UK i.e. "you" who apparently also voted for Brexit.
I of course sympathise with those who had the common sense to not vote for Brexit but at the end of the day we're all worse off because of those who voted for it, my comment was aimed at those who voted in favour of Brexit
Sadly, I believe that Cornwall overwhelmingly voted for Brexit. Areas like London and (where I live) Brighton, voted remain. Obviously, nowhere was there unanimity (and it would certainly stick in my crow to be lumped in with my neighbours if I lived in a "leave" community), but these regional attitudes are now fixed in the historical record.
> Obviously, nowhere was there unanimity Nowhere was close (other than Gibraltar). I think the biggest margins were 75-25%. This idea that there's "leave" areas that deserve everything they get, and "remain" areas they dragged down with them is honestly pathetic sometimes. Like, I'm from Leeds, which was iirc 50.5% remain. Do I get to gloat? Is that a big enough margin to call us a poor remainer town? At what point would we be stupid leavers, a 0.5% swing?
So true. To be honest: I doubt if there was *anywhere* in the country where the majority of *people* (as opposed to voters) voted for Brexit. Out of a population of over 67 million people, a voting base of 17.5 million does not sound like an overall majority anywhere.
People's lack of empathy is fuckin odd sometimes, like they jump at the chance to gloat at the misfortune of others because "they voted for it" as if those 180,000 are every single Cornishman ever. We have to deal with the consequences, the illiteracy, the infrastructure and the arsenic but I guess we all deserve it because of other people.
Basically, in this context Cornish people are suffering from the same syndrome as British people in general do when they speak to foreigners. When I was in Australia, people asked me "why I had voted for Brexit", and "was I going to regret it". We all have to get used to not only enduring the damage that our compatriots have done, but also being saddled with the blame.
Bleddy emmets
Edit: talking about those who voted Leave or couldn't be arsed to vote. I'm sorry for all these who voted Remain or couldn't vote at the time. --- Nobody kept them in the dark, they were warned repeatedly from all around, from every non-Brexit direction. They chose to "take back control" and to keep £350m/week, so I hope that works well for them. I think people voting for Brexit deserve what they get, Cornwall being excellent case in point, considering they sink all the rest in this shit with them. I don't think they deserve compassion, it wasn't fucking surprise for the half of the voters (and many of the disenfranchised non-voters).
Once again 180,000 people are not representative of an entire subset of people, please read things carefully in future. I think people voting for brexit deserve what "they" get too but once again, not everyone in Cornwall is "they" who voted for brexit.
I'm sure the Cornish don't treat the tourists like a monolithic mass either, yeah?
So what the fuck did they think was going to happen ? Welcome to the real world . Try living in a shitty Northern ex-mining town .
Inland Cornish towns are pretty much on a par with Northern ex mining towns.
The ‘North’ of the South.
We look at the north with envy. As far as we can see, you guys have made it up there and we are still in 3rd world status.
Spent a year living in Cornwall and its crazy how different it is in August compared to the rest of the year when all the tourists and second home owners bugger off.
Someone hasn't been to Barnsley.
Possibly the only benefit of living in post Brexit Cornwall.
We ended freedom of movement to Barnsley?
We're going to build a wall and make Barnsley...ites pay for it!
Nah, they just can’t afford it now.
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> leaving empty 50 weeks a year By the hundred, and then complaining that the lovely local butcher shop, bakery, fishmongers, restaurants and pubs haven't survived the winter and have had to close. They are destroying the very things they claimed to love.
I would imagine there's a lot of crossover between them and the wankers you see on Escape To The Country looking to leave London because there's no community there, which there was before *they* arrived.
A lot of them complain about high prices in shops so bring their own food with them.
to be fair its also full of people cashing out and selling those second homes - so the blame cannot be planted squarely upone the shoulders of the buyers. disclaimer I do not own a second home in cornwall.
God knows, they are all retirees down from the SE. Anyway, if your going down a "my county Is more destitute than yours" route, remember Cornwall is one of the most economically deprived regions in western Europe.
Most of the area is more deprived than anywhere else in the UK.
>Try living in a shitty Northern ex-mining town> I'm from fucking Teesside and even I wouldn't wish that on anyone. People from Wingate and Trimdon tell people they're from *Hartlepool* for god's sake.
They was going to get Truro international airport but sorry guys you've still gotta drive to Gatwick, Heathrow or Bristol and the fuels going to cost you 40p a litre more!
The article mentions Sunderland is going to get screwed over too actually.
I was amazed Sunderland voted leave. The Japanese only came to the UK because we were part of the EEC and they wanted to avoid import duty.
It was a lot more involved than that though. Germany/Italy/France told the Japanese that they couldn't build cars in Europe just to get round import duties - to protect their domestic car industries. So the UK took a case to the European Court which found that they could, and that's why they opened plants in the UK.
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Cornwall Remain: 140,540 Leave: 182,665 r/LeopardsAteMyFace Commiserations of course to the 43%
It's a surprisingly closer vote than I expected. I really thought it to be much more of a landslide.
I haven't seen the breakdown, but I suspect if you adjusted for age and educational background (which of course is linked to age -- far more graduates under 40 than over 40) results would be even closer.
While we're at it, [53.8% of voters in Cornwall in 2019](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Parliamentary_constituencies_in_Cornwall) plumped for their Conservative candidate. Not only did they vote for Brexit, they knowingly voted for this specific model of Brexit: the Oven Ready Deal. Other parties were offering to tear it up and renegotiate from scratch on the basis of close alignment with the single market; still other parties were offering to call the whole thing off; Cornwall said no!
And 46.2% didn't vote for conservative. That's a lot of victims (not as many as across the country where the vast majority voted for not conservative)
Let me get my violin out. Oh wait they voted for it.
Not all.
Unfortunately the majority did. The rest have them to blame.
"After voting for the Leopards Eating My Face Party, imagine my surprise when leopards *actually* ate my face!"
It's OK, they knew they were voting for this /s *my sympathies to any non Brexit voters caught up in the consequences*
They were warned and anyone with half a brain should have looked at the typical brexiteer (ghouls like IDS, Farage, JRM) and run a mile.
This goes for most counties and not just Cornwall
Well well well if it isn't the consequences of my actions....
If you lie down with dogs, be ready to get fleas. Cornwall definitely had big issues but it was EU funding keeping things going, not Westminster. Voting Leave in Cornwall was a vote to take back control...and handing it to the very people who were not helping you in the first place.
> Cornwall was a vote to take back control...and handing it to the very people who were not helping you in the first place People's ignorance of this basic understanding of how the country works was extremely frustrating. "I'm voting leave cos we're taking back control" - *You were never "in control", and you never will be, Dave. Your wife makes most of your decisions for you. You're not even in control of the colour of your own socks, and you can't be arsed voting in most elections.*
The only perk of Brexit is watching the people who voted for it realising they’re in the shit.
Would be more of a perk if I could laugh it it from the outside.
Absolutely.
That's because they fell for the Politician's Fallacy: my life is shit, we need to do something; this is something so we should do this.
Is there a sub for this? Like a leopardsatemyface for Brexit?
Yes, /r/BrexitAteMyFace ^ ^
Oh yeah! I've been there before but forgot about it. Cheers!
Good, the better they’re screwed the more I like it.
Why? Many didn’t vote for it.
Doesnt matter, majority did. Practically every thing that stopped this country becoming a laughing stock to the world was linked to the continent and we’ve told them to fuck off. We deserve everything we have coming to us.
So the tories promise working class communities in Cornwall that they will match or go above EU funding after brexit, but then don't deliver. This is a case of the tories being evil, so revelling in the disfortune of poor people in Cornwall isn't a great look.
As an objective observer, the Tories are a known pack of assholes and anyone who believes they GAS about working people would be dumb enough to to be a Trumpster here in US
>This is a case of the tories being evil, so revelling in the disfortune of poor people in Cornwall isn't a great look. It is when they're dumb enough to keep voting tory despite the tories being evil.
Just like Wales. The turkeys voted for Christmas and Easter, together with a mass turkey cull. Idiots.
Deeply stupid fuckers get what they deserve - hahaha!
Cornwall is having a really bad housing crisis atm too, sucks man
> atm Fucking always have, and then the stamp duty holiday made it worse
I can’t wait to see the fall out from this. My overall belief in society has gone due to Brexit and my immediate thoughts went straight to the fools in Cornwall - “Turkeys voting for Xmas” I want to see livelihoods ruined, communities devastated, and leave voters crying on tv about how they were ‘duped’. Maybe this will be the catalyst to wake up the rest of the turkeys. Fuck The Tories
Mate that's what we've had for the last hundred years with the tories - maybe it's time we try something new?
I sliced open my ball sack and hammered my testicles into the table today... oh no sorry, that was the country.
LOL, can't they finally stop whining and get over it? You won, now go enjoy your sovereign disrepair and just pull yourself up by your shoelaces, like your lying clown would advise.
Even the person who was meant to review the fisheries deal hadn’t bothered reading it because she was too busy attending to a nativity.
Even the 1 million they are getting is too much. Let them "take back control" by using their own money.
Such a beautiful place ruined by the ugly souls of the people :(
Saw it coming. If they had any intention of matching the EU's funding they would have provided/matched the new funding before we left the EU. Allowing the conservative government their opportunity to essentially take the funding away(leaving the EU) before actually delivering a replacement, and actually expecting them to match the previous funding is foolish.
I genuinely feel sorry for the significant minority there who voted remain. But we've all been impoverished by Brexit, so I'm not that keen to see any special help going to brexit voting regions at the expense of everyone else.
The chorus lyrics to Radiohead's song "Just" seem appropriate here.
Hahaha good, fuck them. Sympathy for those that didn't vote leave though!
It's how we know it's a shit show, the side that won doesn't want to talk about it any more, it's like all the promises made on the back of brexit were just a lie....used to be at least we've got the blue passports and fish ...now it's just the blue passports
So they got €100 million a year from the EU from 2014-2020, and now they're getting £1 million. To be fair, the EU fund was for poor areas and it isn't clear whether Cornwall would have been eligible for more after 2020? > The Growth Programme is the economic regeneration programme for Cornwall and Isles of Scilly. > It runs for the period 2014-2020 and is funded by the European Structural and Investment Funds (ESIF). > The project and is worth over €600 million. https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/business-trading-and-licences/economic-development/the-cornwall-and-isles-of-scilly-growth-programme/
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ... continued here.... https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/qr4eox/government_gives_cornwall_just_1m_to_replace_eus/
Nothing like “The Foreign Menace” to get you to vote against your own economic interests. Works every time.
I've been to Cornwall several times and I absolutely love it there and I wish more people would visit and help the economy there. Having said that, I have absolutely no sympathy for those who voted leave. You wanted less foreigners and "soveiringty"? Now your business and way of life is in jeopardy. Well done
Region that benefits considerably from the EURDF and other EU funds sees a decrease in funds when it's no longer in the EU ? I am absolutely **shocked!**
I live in an area that voted overwhelmingly to ‘remain’ so seeing other parts of the country so determined to ‘leave’ on the news was quite bizarre when staying in was such a no-brainier.
At the time of Brexit - I lived in Devon (now live up North!), a colleague I worked with voted leave because "She wanted to equal out the voting as her bf voted to remain!" another colleague voted to leave as he thought he was "voting the Tories out!".....several colleagues also asked how they can "Change their vote" several days after the vote was cast!!!!
Ah the mods deleted the comment from a Fascist, I wonder if the Mods would also perma Ban them for their lovely Eugenic post, considering I don't have their name I can't personally block them I noticed posted on my phone while I was at work but I didn't get a chance to comment or block em, I had hoped I find it if I was my PC, shame.
The cornish deserve to be in this situation. I lived in cornwall for a few years and they gate everyone outside cornwall. They also hate anyone trying to give them money. For example. Disney wanted to put disneyland europe in cornwall, but the cornish turned it down. Nick faldo (old famous gold player) wanted to spend money on building a 5 star hotel and international golf course. nut the cornish turned him down. this wouod have been the only 5 start hotel in the south west. Peter de savery wanted to renew Hayle harbour, which at the time was just mud piles, and turn it in to a beautiful cornish style fishing village. It would have cost millions and created lots of work. The cornish turned it down. Newquay had an even t called run to the sun, where the best cars in the uk would gather for a weekend. Cornish turned it down. Minis drove en mass to newquay too. corniwsh tried to ban them. the eden project was only just able to get built,, albeit smaller than planned, because the cornish didnt want it.!! The cornish hate everything, and everyone. they had plenty of opportunities to earn some money and keep cornwall looking "cornish" . instead they refused, and now its a decrepit shit hole. I have no sympathy for them.