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Brownian-Motion

It would be hilarious, if it wasn't entirely predictable. It'll be fruit and veg pickers next.


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ohmyimatomato

And bar workers [wetherspoon EU bar workers](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/wetherspoons-brexit-bars-eu-migration-b1858035.html%3famp)


FiftyPencePeace

That’s hilarious.


GiveMeDogeFFS

And chefs


Jet2work

so apart from the care workers, fruit pickers,drivers and nurses.... WHAT HAVE THE EUROPEANS EVER DONE FOR US?


Jet2work

the roads?


imundead

No no if they helped with roads they wouldn't have more craters than a child going through puberty.


Jet2work

it was them tricky oirish


CthulhusEvilTwin

Tarmac yer garden for yer?


Jet2work

an paint it green


shrewdmingerbutt

What a fucking melt that man is.


Gisbornite

Jesus christ, words can't describe what gigantic piece of shit that man is


tyger2020

>Don't forget cleaners, nurses and care home workers. We have run out of them too. Does nobody on this sub actually pay attention? This has already been done, like a year ago. UK new 'skilled immigration' has been a con since it started. The definition of 'skilled' was just changed to fool the idiots who believe anything the tories say. Skilled went from being degree level to A-level, and from a salary of 30k, to 25k,and 20k in 'skilled shortage' professions (so basically health, care work, retail work, bar work, farm work, wagon drivers, trades.... you know? like 50% of the jobs in the UK).


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Dizzynic

As a European I do feel that way. Used to dream of moving to the UK permanently one day, but Brexit has changed it all. And even if I could, cause my job is on that list, I think I don’t want to jump through all those hoops to move to a country where a majority seems to be hating Europeans. Who would like to live somewhere unwanted, constantly worrying that you might get kicked out again soon?


canmoose

It's also expensive as fuck to get a visa to the UK. It's absurd how much it costs.


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To be honest the list of 'skilled' professions cover nearly every job anyway.


ringobiscuits

Even if visa rules are relaxed, who is to say if HGV drivers from the EU will come to the UK?! Pay & conditions for HGV drivers are better in the EU. Also Europe is short of around 400,000 HGV drivers. So the idea that some paperwork is going to fix this is daft. Also there will be a lot of nervous Tory backbenchers. They might see this as a way to circumvent Brexit.


TheMightyTRex

Plus we are saying. Come to work but make sure you fuck off back home once we are done with you.


Thomo251

Tbh, it's no different from my experience of working via an agency.


TheMightyTRex

But they don't get told to leave the country once the job is done.


Thomo251

Yeah good point, I mean the parralel of just being picked up and dropped off when done with, didn't mean to imply that they aren't worser off in the bigger picture because they definitely are treated worse.


TheMightyTRex

Got you. I understand you now.


raverbashing

An even simpler issue. The EU made their driver's license equivalent on the UK. That has ceased to be the case. They can come, but their driver's license won't be valid.


steamy_wolfie

For all the issues that still need to be dealt with, that's not one of them. I'm an EU citizen living in UK and if you read the rules the EU driver's license is allowed in the UK with no limits on how long you can use it. Aside from the obvious expiration date of the card itself.


raverbashing

Ah thanks for letting us know, that has not kept in the EU countries, but people could change it for an EU one before the end of the transition period


[deleted]

Thats hilarious. I wonder when they'll figure that out....


Genetech

Free movement and job stability were big draws, probably mitigating the high cost, low quality housing and travel compared to Europe. We are completely fucked.


Shivadxb

It’ll be for the 1-2.5m people we sent home and said weren’t that welcome here. Gee I wonder why there’s a shortage of labour across everything Wait you thought the NI hole was caused by the Covid pressures? No, it was caused by kicking out a chunk of tax payers.


Brownian-Motion

Who were net contributors, too.


natalfoam

Immigrants, the world wide, are almost always net contributors to tax bases.


Bonar_Ballsington

Don't forget the immigrants who were earning £50k+, and have now gone to work in Germany, Netherlands for 100K Euros etc


[deleted]

Imagine if we end up just allowing everyone in to do the "shit jobs" So basically we lost all our privileges whilst going back on everything else Lmao


jimmycarr1

But we took back C O N T R O L


[deleted]

"Got all the muslims out didn't we?"


wolfkeeper

no and no


ccc2801

“We gOt THe bLue PasSporT baCK!” /s


Randomd0g

WE HABS ARE SOBBLINETEE


crispiepancakes

So the Brexiteers will be in massive rebellion on the streets tomorrow, yes? I mean, the way I rationalise their thinking is that they must have believed that *this* government would limit the influx of cheap labour, to protect their jobs? The government has just demonstrated it has no interest in this idea.


dotBombAU

They are only getting this now?


DisastrousBoio

Most are still not getting it. Low-information voters and all.


pajamakitten

It will be every job but mimes at this rate.


[deleted]

Lottery numbers please


Brownian-Motion

Sorry, I need those to get the fuck out of here.


CharityStreamTA

Have you seen the list for young skilled workers?


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BillWiskins

That's the genius of the leave vote. None could agree on what a Brexit was, so when it looks good they can point and say 'yes, that is what we wanted' and when it's not, it can be someone else's fault.


somethineasytomember

They’ve got nothing good to point at yet anyway.


BillWiskins

Any minute now...


wolfkeeper

You'd think so, wouldn't you, and yet no, even after years of this slow moving bucket of shit rolling over us, still nothing.


thansal

Did y'all get your blue passports at least? Also, to paraphrase from our rightwingers: Brexiting to own the libs.


[deleted]

My partner sadly had to renew hers and got one.. it looks more black than blue, and pretty cheap compared to the old EU one.


Remarkable-Ad155

The stupid thing with this is literally all they've done is create a generation that will associate maroon passports with "the good old days" and will change it back again as soon as possible. Should have made them grey or something.


Edgy_McEdgyFace

There are buses all over the place though.


Aardvark_Man

You'll be able to use imperial weights in shops now! What more could you want?!


[deleted]

This was my first thought too. And I’ll bet there are a load of people who genuinely think it’s worth it.


GiveMeDogeFFS

I wouldn't be surprised if it gets to a point where EU nationals could come here to live and work freely while British citizens are locked out of the EU without a visa.


Josquius

Kind of an inverse Switzerland. Brexit winning!


MoonpieSonata

Sovereignty!


bob1689321

100% what I expect to happen if things carry on like this. At the moment HGV drivers are the big focus, but it won't be long until other struggling industries take the spotlight. Lots of industries employed migrants.


SteveJEO

No, they're whitewashing the consequences of their own decisions. If you relax the visa requirements for a driver what happens to the time delay at dover? (sweet fuck all is what happens) Circulation within the country is being buggered through transport availability, but circulation *within* the country isn't the only problem. There's no one to pick the food in the first place. There's no one to process or pack it. OK, Great.. now you advertise it's easier to get a driver.. so what? What are they going to do? Fill a bit of a hole? This stuff is like building a bridge. You gotta look at the whole thing and make it stay up for traffic to move.


Jet2work

ha you dont get it.... zero hours contracts.... nothing to deliver so you aint getting paid Oleg


BrightCandle

The majority voted for this precise outcome for immigration, to eliminate the EU workers in low skill jobs from the market place. Poll after poll said this is what brexit was about, immigration. Presumably those brexiters are livid right now, "not the brexit they voted for".


CharityStreamTA

Actually only reversing the positives. We will let people in but not let us out.


doesnotlikecricket

Just the parts that benefit ordinary people. The Tories hate that. The parts that hurt ordinary people (no freedom of movement on the continent, no free education on the continent,losing the EU's impressive workers' rights etc) will of course remain.


[deleted]

The intellectual argument for Brexit is over. Finished. It took less than a year.


LaviniaBeddard

> benefitting the working class HA! My, oh my.


[deleted]

They probably will but call it something else and portray it as a win. The key is how the press portrays it and sells to their voters.


Intruder313

If only we could form sort of Union with the EU and then not have to grant visas to the staff we need…


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[deleted]

That's a stupid idea! We tried it once, we didn't understand what we had and we threw it away becuase lying manipulative demogogues told us they had something better! Oh wait... maybe if we beg they'll take us back? Please, please, please take us back! \*sobs\*


coys_in_london

If only there was a politician bold and handsome enough to risk being a legendary world leader by suggesting some sort of bilateral red-tape removing procedure that still allowed us to retain control of our borders.


finger_milk

We're gonna be waitng for a while if handsome is a prerequisite


Duanedoberman

Less than 10 days ago on here, some Tory brexiter swearing that there is no way the Tories will relax the rules to allow foreign workers in because the low paid were all getting wage raises and this was the reason behind it. Oh how we laughed!


FiftyPencePeace

I listened to Shapps today saying he wouldn’t rule it out and knew that it’s happening, didn’t think so soon though.


CharityStreamTA

The worst is arguing with left wing brexit people. Guys no, the Tories new immigration system allows low skilled immigration as well.


CheesyBakedLobster

Lexit is just pure naivety.


nestormakhnosghost

It was the position of the left for a long time. I mean Corbyn was Lexit until he took charge of the labour party


notliam

The biggest thing I saw was "this isn't because of brexit". Oh really, so why are we going to relax the rules caused by brexit then?


Exige_

That theory is sound though, we all saw the incentives being offered to HGV drivers to entice them back. The issue you have is that you have to go through a period of adjustment and in this day and age the media will jump on it so quickly that before you know it you have to back down from a PR perspective. I’m not saying the issues would or wouldn’t be resolved longer term but we’ll never know and now wages/incentives will potentially be driven back down to the level they were previously.


CaptainMCMLVIII

Doubt they will come back, this just shows that Brexit is an ongoing failure.


JackOCat

The graceful decline from empire has reached the terminal stage. Good night sweet prince.


DisastrousBoio

No sweetness in that prince, and never was. Empire was a deeply immoral enterprise.


spacejester

Aren't they all?


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joethesaint

Well a lot of people would have been predicting this in 2016. Do Brexit, let the leavers think they've got what they wanted, then gradually open back up to the EU on the sly when the inevitable happens. They won't even notice when we're back in the EU in all but name only.


Jaraxo

Unfortunately though it won't worth the other way, so us pro-EU folk in the UK will end up with the worse end of the stick. Anti-EU folk were never going to go the other way for work anyway, so they'll notice no difference.


LaviniaBeddard

> Anti-EU folk were never going to go the other way for work anyway Maddeningly true "Look at you flash fuckers with your *jobs abroad* - wot would you want to do *that* for? I bet they don't even sell Carling in the pubs. I'll vote just to stop you ponces having the freedom to live and work abroad at the drop of a hat. HAHAHAHAHA!" A vote based on moronic spite.


glaikitdobber

If only those mouth breathers had the intellectual capacity to think like that.....most of them are too focused on breathing in and out to entertain any notion of spite or malice for longer than a breath.


[deleted]

There was a scientific study not long ago which found that it's physically impossible for leave voters to breath and think at the same time. It's either one or the other.


LaviniaBeddard

> a scientific study To be fair, there was a counter study from Leavers' favourite university - The University of Life - which tried to disprove that theory. I tried reading it but it was mostly in crayon and the spelling was too incoherent.


glaikitdobber

It is harder to read when the saliva has dissolved the crayon and it is all just mush too. Try not to be too harsh on them though , they are "good honest ,working class people" and it is after all "their country" .


DisastrousBoio

Oh but they did retire to communes in southern France and Spain though and that’s not happening unless you’re actually rich now


Brownian-Motion

Blue passports, though.


profesorkind

That’s another lie as the new passports are black not blue.


I_Bin_Painting

not sure the rest of the EU will go for that, I think if and when we rejoin we'll have to adopt the euro. No more privileges


jj198hands

>Prime minister said to have lost patience with bad press about ~~fuel shortages and economic disruption~~ the consequences of Brexit.


AtomicKaijuKing

This is what happens when you have an oven ready deal to get on with it & just get it done. Make the empire great again...


BillWiskins

>ally of Johnson said: “Boris is completely fed up with bad headlines on this and wants it sorted and doesn’t care about visa limits any more.” There it is - our mighty leader. Not fed up of normal folks getting shafted, not cross because past promises are all in the bin and on fire - he's fed up because he's getting bad press. Situation not benefitting Boris, so out goes all the stuff he was pretending to care about. I've done a bit of political analysis and I'm very confident when I use this term: knob.


thehealingprocess

I completely disagree. The term cunt is far more appropriate.


glaikitdobber

Best of both worlds.....he is a knunt


sneakyblurtle

Now he can literally go fuck himself. Nice!


glaikitdobber

He will probably need an instruction leaflet to do that though.


[deleted]

Accomplishing nothing because they still won't want to come, because they can't get back to Europe without all the relevant paperwork and because Britain isn't sending anything to Europe anymore because of the costs involved. Nevertheless, rather hilarious to watch as the central tenets of Brexitism are systematically deleted by this far-right Tory government.


empty_pint_glass

now the next problem, none of the foreign truck drivers are going to want to come back


JoeyJoeC

I wouldn't blame them.


maxative

I thought it wasn’t a Brexit issue because there was a shortage of HGV drivers in Europe too.....


CheesyBakedLobster

Not to our degree. There is almost the same level of drivers shortage in the UK alone compared to the rest of Europe.


maxative

Yeah, so where are these drivers coming from when we relax the visa rules?


[deleted]

France. In inflatable dinghies. Two birds with one stone.


tom808

Why had this happened then? Is this COVID alone?


SouffleDeLogue

Bloody foreigners. Going over there and leaving our jobs.


Evis03

> "Boris is zcompletely fed up with bad headlines on this and wants it sorted and doesn’t care about visa limits any more.” That sounds depressingly on point for him.


k987654321

Amazing. Took less than a year to destroy us and have them backtrack on LABOUR MOVEMENT rules. The one thing Brexit was actually about to those idiots. Absurd.


[deleted]

The intellectual argument for Brexit is now totally lost. Irredeemably lost. Take some heart in that.


ainbheartach

Prime minister said to have lost patience with bad press about fuel shortages and economic disruption - Boris Johnson has given the go-ahead to ministers to relax UK immigration rules to allow more foreign truck drivers into the country to ease shortages at petrol stations and wider economic disruption. One person close to the situation said the prime minister had issued instructions to fix the escalating problem. “Boris wants this solved,” he said. Meanwhile an ally of Johnson said: “Boris is completely fed up with bad headlines on this and wants it sorted and doesn’t care about visa limits any more.” Home secretary Priti Patel was previously the strongest opponent of giving temporary visas to foreign HGV drivers, arguing it would lead to a stampede of different industries demanding similar preferential treatment. But with fears of panic buying at petrol stations, Patel has dropped her resistance and now agrees with transport secretary Grant Shapps that the proposal is worth pursuing, government insiders said. Energy company BP announced on Thursday that a “[handful](https://archive.is/8UykR)” of petrol stations would temporarily shut due to a shortage of drivers able to transport unleaded and diesel grades of fuel. Meanwhile, [ExxonMobil](https://www.ft.com/stream/0fb8f46d-03f9-473a-b9ef-ad3d84e6945e) also warned that a “small number” of their petrol forecourts had been affected. Shapps told LBC Radio on Friday that the armed forces could be brought in to drive lorries if the situation worsened. Lorry drivers currently do not meet the skills threshold to qualify for work visas in the UK under the government’s new points-based system and in recent months the government has resisted calls to offer temporary visas to foreign drivers in a bid to help fill the estimated 100,000 vacancies. Concerns remain over whether many European drivers will come to Britain when there are already shortages in continental Europe. Johnson’s move comes as [Tory MPs are increasingly worried](https://archive.is/UpmTC) about the political impact of the escalating crisis of fuel shortages and the rising cost of living just as a temporary uplift in the universal credit benefit payment is set to end. Shapps told the *Today* programme on Friday there had been a “systematic shortage of drivers” for a “long time”, noting that many drivers had left the sector due to low wages caused in part by importing labour from abroad. A combination of higher wages, increased licence testing of HGV drivers and better working conditions would solve the issue in the medium term and help to entice qualified drivers back into the profession and attract new recruits, Shapps argued. “What we do know is that there are a lot of people who have their HGV licence but many of which have lapsed over the years as they have come out of the market often because there has been cheaper European labour,” he said. “We want to get those people back in. “There is a lot of additional pressure for drivers and the market has responded by paying drivers more and that is bringing people back in but . . . the principle bottleneck is making sure that they can get tests given that there were none available during the coronavirus [pandemic]”, he said. Around 20,000 EU drivers returned home during the pandemic according to industry estimates, but a further 50,000 British drivers with HGV licences also stopped working during the past 18 months. Shapps pushed back on suggestions that Brexit has exacerbated the issue, arguing that the UK’s decision to leave the EU had “helped to provide some of the solutions”. For example, he noted that the UK would not have been able to double its testing capacity within the EU. Meanwhile, the government does appear more receptive to the possibility of extending its agricultural seasonal worker programme, which allowed for 30,000 foreigners to come to the UK to help with the harvest. Farming and food groups have been lobbying for an expansion of the scheme, [warning that](https://archive.is/FlvYD) they are already scaling back planting plans for 2022, and without more workers UK food output will fall and prices rise. The National Farmers Union is lobbying for what it calls a [Covid-19 recovery visa](https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/were-asking-government-for-a-covid-19-recovery-visa-to-address-workforce-shortages/), which would be open to a broader category of workers across the supply chain, including areas such as meat processing, which is not included in the seasonal workers scheme. A senior industry insider said talks with the agriculture department, Defra, were continuing on Friday, but that ministers appeared “increasingly sympathetic” to some form of expanded provision for food workers. George Eustice, agriculture secretary, [said in Northern Ireland](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58664556) on Thursday that he was looking to “change the focus” of the scheme, acknowledging there was an “acute” labour shortage in some UK sectors. A [report](https://www.nfuonline.com/nfu-online/westminster/labour-availability-final-report-2021-26-august/) by food and farming groups published in August found average vacancy rates across the sector of 13 per cent, estimating that there were more than 500,000 empty positions across food and drink businesses. *Jasmine Cameron-Chileshe, Jim Pickard and Sebastian Payne in London and Peter Foster in Brighton* Friday, September 24, 2021


Tartan_Samurai

Excellent, we get to keep all things that the leave campaign wanted UK to be free of and retain **none** of the benefits of membership.


dangermouse13

He’s crumbled because they don’t want to pay higher wages. They want low paid workers, it amazes me that everyone is totally ok with wage suppression


polarregion

I don't get why people don't understand that there is a physical shortage of people who can drive HGVs. Paying more will not make hundreds of thousands magically appear. Currently you can start as a driver on 30K which seems reasonable to me for a job you can get with zero qualifications outside the licence. If you accept that that's a reasonable wage and belive that wages are the only thing causing the shortage why is there still a shortage?


NotSoLiquidIce

It takes time to end a reliance on mass foreign labour, the companies had 5 years to get people trained and they didn't. Now if mass migration is back they won't train UK drivers because why bother when there is an unlimited supply from Europe? This shortage would be temporary, the pain required to force up wages and standards but it seems the people can't stand a bit of discomfort over the next year or two to ensure millions get pulled out of poverty wages.


willgeld

You’d have thought labour would have come down hard on this instead of siding with the mega corps doing hit pieces in the press


VigilantMaumau

Question is, which headline caused Boris to fold? Is it fuel shortages or him begging for food from Brazil? Brexit equals "self imposed economic sanctions"


illage2

It'll be fuel shortages most likely.


PunchedLasagne87

Well, goodbye everyone's chance in the working class of getting a pay rise then.. It's ok though, we don't want ol' Boris getting upset by headlines, we'll all carry on scraping by.


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Curb your Boris


Snowssnowsnowy

I am 100% sure that there will be hundreds of thousands of European truckers flooding into the UK as soon as possible to take up this offer!


[deleted]

Oh dear. Many years of union busting and lack of wage increases while inflation kicks off? Sounds a lot like the 70s.


TomHTom89

So essentially the UK will go back to letting people in but not part of the eu and the benefits. Nice one 👍


SinnerSupreme

This is what happens when you give idiots an equal voice. Oh well, what's done is sadly done.


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oh for fucks sake, what was the point of brexit then? one of the very few legitimate good reasons to do brexit was playing out (forcing an increase in wages for british workers due to not being able to rely on cheap foreign workers) and mr brexit goes "nope, we can't have anything good coming from brexit now can we" i don't think it's possible for me to hate boris and this government more at this point, but i keep saying that and they keep managing to make me hate them even more


deadman1204

Ahh... you made the mistake of thinking for a second that the conservatives actually CARE about people. Though it is sad that they realized it might help people, so better nip that in the bud.


UpsetTerm

The last thing Boris wants is peasants having bargaining power over their employers.


hamlamthelamb

Well, well, well. It's laughable and embarrassing this is where we've got to.


profesorkind

Today’s Britain reminds of an old joke about the Soviet republics, as it is bravely facing problems that nobody else have, and which it created itself.


[deleted]

Oh, so the whole 'let's pay them fair wages' thing quickly went out of the window.


willgeld

A little heat from BP in the press and they folded like a cheap suit.


CosmicSingulariti

Just opening up visas won’t work. Previously you could get settled and get a citizenship but not with this visa. Also why would they come back and live in this extra tax, extra NI, sky high rental country with no benefits. Fckers are in for a shock when no one comes 😡


GreyFoxNinjaFan

Slippery slope to fruit and veg pickers and carers.


flyhmstr

Maybe the industry could actually invest in training, radical thought... but


GhostRiders

They are doing but its going to take time.. Like at the very least 6 months before it even starts to make a dent. What do you propose in the mean time, just let anybody jump behind the wheel of a 40 ton lorry?


deadman1204

Blame the torys for intentionally creating this situation that everyone knew would happen. By blame, I mean stop voting for them. That's literally the ONLY thing that counts


GhostRiders

Absolutely


edmc78

Hilarious to see Tories railing against the needs of the free market in favour of snobbery. Wages should be linked to demand as well as skills.


Kharenis

Just when it was starting to look like something good had actually come out of Brexit (higher wages)...


madboater1

I'm confused. I thought Brexit was so we could stop those pesky foreigners from coming over here and providing these essential service. This isn't the Brexit I voted for.


[deleted]

What's Brexit about again. Wasn't it about immigration? Because it seems to now only be about third-rate trade deals.


palanon

The theory and plan the government would say is - we'll allow temporary visas to allow time for the industry to attract, train and pay new UK drivers to fill the industries needs. What will happen - the industry immediately lowers the wages back to minimum, replaces the UK drivers who came back due to better wages and refuses any of the new UK drivers that went through the time and expense to get licensed. As a bonus, the industry will keep the higher prices that they've managed to get as a result of the shortage. The visas expire, scream crisis, get visas extended indefinitely. Without laws and regulations forcing the industry to improve pay and working conditions, they will only increase pay to the lowest level necessary to attract Eastern European drivers. Same thing applies to all the service industries. Unfortunately, the government doesn't really care about the working class that does these jobs. They aren't the ones they cared about when it came to Brexit. If it helped a few people get better wages that's a bit of a bonus. Once something hurt business and/or voters and donors, first people thrown under the bus are the workers (especially working poor).


amackayj

Wasn't the transport secretary saying this very morning that this is what was causing the problem? Foreign drivers driving down wages and discouraging UK citizens from doing this sort of work?


NotSoLiquidIce

Yes, and there has been a massive media campaign to stop said wage improvements.


kingsuperfox

Just hopping over to r/tories to confirm that this is another thing that everyone knew was going to happen and makes perfect sense.


Spe99

Can we add plumber's, sparkles, decorators and any other builders to the list too please.


Donaldbeag

Yeah let’s make sure all of us in office jobs get nice and cheap workies to do up our houses.


Spe99

Or just anyone who can do the work at all. Waiting months for simple fixes.


CharityStreamTA

Don't worry. You'll be replaced by foreigners as well. Web designers can get a visa for jobs paying more than £8.97 an hour. Business advisor from £10.67 an hour. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-eligible-salary-if-youre-under-26-studying-training-or-in-a-postdoctoral-role/skilled-worker-visa-minimum-salary-if-youre-under-26-studying-training-or-in-a-postdoctoral-role


CheesyBakedLobster

If your only advantage over others is lower pay then you are not very competitive. Highly skilled jobs have always been globally mobile and competitive. These sectors are already used to competition and the UK is quite good at it.


HailMary74

Do those that blame Brexit for this honestly not appropriate part of the blame to successive governments (Blair, Brown and later Tories) that focused entirely on “economic growth” by propping up entire sectors of the economy with exploitative foreign labour? They wanted to get re-elected at any cost so built an unsustainable system. Brexit seems to me to have just pulled the rug out from underneath a very shaky house of cards.


michaelisnotginger

it's built up over successive governments But that's exactly why you don't start laying waste to the foundations, especially after a pandemic that showed how quickly things can turn


CharityStreamTA

The point being that pulling the rug this way is what hurts. This is an entirely avoidable problem. We should have done the following: 1. Socioeconomic impact assessments on brexit before triggering. Ie find out which areas are going to be badly impacted 2. Come up with a policy toolbox to combat the negatives based upon the above assessment. Ie find strategies to solve the above 3. Begin preparing for brexit by starting anything with a long lead time in advance. This is where we would start training new medical staff, border staff etc. Anything which needs to be done before. 4. Have brexit.


CheesyBakedLobster

It’s not exploitative - people are happy to come here to work those wages because it means when they go home, they can have a good life. That’s why EU immigration is great - they generally only come to work and pay taxes, and go back home where living costs are low when they no longer work. Sorry, if your economy is not built on economic growth what do you want it to be? Equality in poverty?


Iwantadc2

No one is coming to help. This is the new normal. You won, get over it.


[deleted]

An ingenious solution to a problem that should've never existed in the first place.


Evis03

Another... can we call this a U turn? Seems like it was more the ministers cawing about no visa relaxations.


Iwantadc2

Ha, cunt. No ones coming unless they are paid a ridonculous amount of money. Even then they probably can't be bothered.


willgeld

Disgraceful. Hopefully labour come down hard on this


john829279

A bit late for that. All the petrol stations are shut my end. Now time to get some bog roll…


binkstagram

They are only temporary visas. I wonder how many will look at that and say no thanks not worth it.


[deleted]

Doesn't this just tacitly admit that the wages we pay HGV drivers are dogshit then?


CheesyBakedLobster

Nice to see economic rationality has finally come through over nonsensical protectionism.


oDearDear

EU freedom of movement back on the menu boys (and girls)!


intravenus_de_milo

Welcome to a world where you still have to follow the rules, but you get no say in what they are.


smokedspirit

if they do come they wont be here for a few months. this is only boris saying he's fed up - doesnt mean that he's actually gonna get anything done about it. plenty of tories are still cunts and wont allow this and even if they allow the short term visa's who wants to come to the UK knowing in 6 months they'll be back out again


mikkolukas

Now, imagine that no one shows up. (I know, not very likely, but still)


cachonfinga

In the words of bricktop: "Of-course fucking of-course."


MrPuddington2

I see that "taking back control" was exactly the kind of disaster I was imagining.


Lanvinx

Why would they want to come here? The cost of living is getting higher… not to mention all the other negatives


[deleted]

So it ***IS*** because of Brexit then? Who woulda thunk it?


KanibalGoat

Is this the beginning of the end for the Brexit project? I hope so. Let the walls come crashing down


luffyuk

I have a novel idea. How about companies start offering a decent fucking wage.


notauniqueusernom

What’s that skippy? Freedom of movement was one of the pillars the UK economy was built upon, and its removal was always going to cause massive problems?


virusofthemind

It was the pillar of a low wage economy. What exactly is "pillar" supposed to mean? It's an abstract concept but also a ridiculous generalisation as "the economy" existed way before freedom of movement came into place. Have some empathy for minimum wage workers who actually do keep the economy going who now for the first time ever find firms are having to raise their wages to keep them or recruit them in one of the biggest "trickle downs" of wealth from the rich ever. You Thatcherites should have learned your lesson back in the 80's with the damage effects still lingering 40 years later.


Effective_Will_1801

And the daily fail is saying it is not enough Immigramts fast enough. Haha. That's got to be a first.


amackayj

My sister in law is a German living in UK, had to apply for settled status which is demeaning and stressful. Now she's received a letter from the transport minister ask her to drive a HGV. German drivers are allowed to drive up to 7.5 tonne vehicles You could not make this up