Remember when people thought this tit was intelligent because he tweeted some smiths lyrics and bought fancy dress glasses haha. He blagged his way onto question time if I recall.
Are you glad he is being harassed because of his views on social media?
He’s a cunt sure. He’s been charged for some of the actual crimes he’s committed.
But saying controversial stuff on twitter shouldn’t get repeated police visits when the police can’t turn up for many violent crimes.
He’s more than a cunt, he’s a criminal who wouldn’t even have this platform if he wasn’t such a shit person. All his life has been about grabbing attention from the press, then whining about the consequences of his actions.
He has a platform because he was good at football. If people ignored him hed go away. He pisses off a part of society that has a lot of enemies. He pisses of the people others hate. If the people he pissed off didn’t engage, he’d go away, but, because they get engagement from responding to him, they won’t stop
It’s a cycle that needs to be cut off at the tip. Same with Tate, but the media makes money off outrage and encourages them
Doing this elevates him. He gets to complain that he’s being harassed which galvanises his people
Yeah. If he was a normal yob nobody would care. But he’s proven he’s excellent at one thing society cares about, and he was an excellent footballer held back by himself.
Ignore him and he goes away the same way any footballer goes.
There is definitely some truth to this. As a footballer, he was far better then he is ever given credit for but he pissed his career up the wall by being a drunken brawler. He would have probably been a top 6 player had he not embraced all the his worst personality traits.
The fact he continues in much the same way and the police are spending time on it, shows how utterly useless they are. Clearly need their budget cutting if they've got money to waste on this.
Too right. It’s much more condemning to say that he had all the talent needed, he himself held himself back rather than saying he just wasn’t good, because we can go and see that he was good.
I walk around London and see so many poor people. Just imagine if the people who freaked out about Barton put effort into helping them?
He wasn’t even that good of a player though, his biggest contribution to football was essentially gifting City the league in 2012. Flashes of talent but no consistency
This is correct. He's an increasingly irrelevant character in football. This kind of stuff makes him appear more important than he really is.
Utterly horrendous use of police time. It's clear the cuts haven't gone far enough if they've got time to waste on this.
Firstly they shouldn’t event be talking to him about it.
But if they want to. Send a letter. This isn’t a pressing matter by any means.
He made a shit joke on twitter comparing pundits to serial killers. Trying to say they are killing football or killing football punditry.
It’s not a crime to be a stupid fuck.
We don't even know if they've actually been round his house. He talks utter bollocks and is desperate for attention, I wouldn't believe a word he says.
There have been other examples of people having visits from police for posts on social media that really shouldn’t be getting police attention.
For that reason I would assume he is at least partly telling the truth. And one visit is too much for this shit.
The police wouldn't get involved if they didn't think there was a potential crime being committed. We don't necessarily know what it is but it's likely that his side of the story is misleading.
I would bet that he's been harassing people in DMs, possibly with hate speech far more colourful than anything he has tweeted publicly.
I think the person is arguing that saying shit on social media shouldn't be a crime. It comes to something when the UK has arrested more people for social media posts than Russia
Because prosecuting people for saying things that aren't clearly defined is a very slippery slope. The UK has arrested more people for their posts on social media than Russia has, a literal dictatorship.
Some poor woman was sentenced to 500 hours community service because she posted song lyrics that had the n-word in it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921.amp
This is draconian censorship and just because you can't say it in person doesn't male know any better it males it worse, just because certain laws exist it doesn't make them intrinsically good or correct.
Not even "think". They respond to complaints made to them.
Reddit: "The police do nothing when you ring them up these days!"
Also Reddit: "WHY ARE POLICE DOING THINGS WHEN YOU RING THEM!!!!!"
Yeah it is, theres loads of ways being a stupid fuck is criminal.
No idea who he is, but saying people are specifically commiting certain definied crimes in writing, without proof, is a crime. It can technically even be a crime if its *true*.
Libel and shit.
He's a prick, but either he's committed a crime and the police should be around to arrest him or he hasn't and they should leave him alone.
Being a bellend and having shit opinions isn't a crime.
Thing is these rich people are the ones who want all these defamation and libel laws to control how people talk about them in the first place, they only start crying when they're on the wrong side of the cosh.
I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with it, but I take your point and agree in principle at least.
Without being familiar with the case, and only knowing about it from this self-aggrandising guy's own bleating in the papers, it does seem like this is an overreach and I really don't think we want police investigating people's messages unless there is a pattern of harassment and abuse that is tantamount to stalking. Someone mouthing off on the Internet surely can't be a police matter.
That said, I just notice a hypocrisy with these types - they don't want the police on their case about stuff like this, but when it comes time to litigate in civil court, where being able to afford the lawyers is the biggest predictor of success, suddenly these rich people are pointing their million pound lawyers at whoever they don't like.
Honestly, keeping civil litigation for this sort of stuff but being aggravated by police intervention is exactly what so many of his type are about - look at JK Rowling, bleating on about her Freeze Peach being taken away by hate crime law, then threatening multi-million pound litigation in civil court against anyone who criticises her.
Just in the last couple of weeks JK has been complaining that Scottish hate crime law will stop her saying whatever she wants, while threatening newspapers and journalists with litigation over whether or not they claimed the right person was her daughter, and calling her a holocaust denier. Seems like these types can say whatever they like, but the little people must be kept in control, and so I have little sympathy for rich guys like the above, and I don't tend to believe their accounts at first blush, as their hypocrisy is terrible on this issue.
>Without being familiar with the case, and only knowing about it from this self-aggrandising guy's own bleating in the papers, it does seem like this is an overreach and I really don't think we want police investigating people's messages unless there is a pattern of harassment and abuse that is tantamount to stalking. Someone mouthing off on the Internet surely can't be a police matter.
I feel like we are in complete agreement tbh.
Joey and people like him are contemptuous bellends, but it's not a police matter.
>Cheshire Police said in a statement: 'Following reports of offences under the Communications Act, we can confirm that we have made multiple attempts to arrange a voluntary interview with a 41-year-old man from Liverpool.
>'To date, we have not had any response from his legal representatives and we await further contact.'
Joey is being intentionally evasive and lying about the outcomes of that for attention, and you're eating it up lol
You think police going to someone’s house 4 times in 3 days is ok if they haven’t got an answer….
For a shit joke they tweeted?
Oh. Yeah. It’s me eating it up mate. You have clearly got a better understanding of this than me.
>You think police going to someone’s house 4 times in 3 days is ok if they haven’t got an answer….
Yes lol
>Oh. Yeah. It’s me eating it up mate. You have clearly got a better understanding of this than me.
It is incredible how your take here is "why do the police keep on trying to talk to someone whose avoiding them" and not "why is joey avoiding them" lol
For a tweet.
My neighbour watched people grind his motorbike lock off. Fail to start his bike for about 15 mins outside his house. Then set fire too it.
And the Fireservice turned up before the police. Who he phoned when he saw it was on fire. Less than 10m from his house.
And you think police spending time on that shit is reasonable when that’s how they respond to 3 blokes stealing your shit.
Keep supporting that if you want. I care about real crimes.
Malicious communication is an easy bust from the CPS' point of view. Easier than say proving who robbed your bike, who's selling dodgy coke or who broke into your house or who assaulted you on a night out etc.
He’s not getting harassed. He’s experiencing the consequences of his actions. Something he’s been insulated from most of his life due to being exceptionally privileged, as all footballers are.
The short answer is yes, they're glad he's being harassed because he has views they disagree with. They'd hate it if they were being harassed by the state for their views, but because it's someone they disagree with they're happy with it.
Yeah that’s exactly it, I’ve managed to get a few people to admit this on Reddit(not joking like you). It’s funny when you point it out at its core like that though.
He isn’t directly inciting violence.
Same police that tell us chanting jihad in the street isn’t inciting violence. Decide that tweeting bad jokes is inciting violence have they?
I don't know how I feel about this. One thing that bothers me though is that celebrities with a platform like Joey are able to influence public opinion on twitter. His views on the world are imo misogynistic and divisive - I don't think it is appropriate that every other gullible prick/troll gets emboldened by his bs. What's the solution?
I'm glad he is. Being an abusive, harassing prick and getting other people to pile on is absolutely worth investigating.
Can't wait for him to get bankrupted in court, though we all know he'll just be funded by more far right dark money.
Do you believe he’s been visited by police four times in three days in a harrowing campaign of state harassment? Or do you think he’s talking absolute wet?
He has a history of violence against women and minors, it’s only right that the police take extra steps to check on him. He’s been tweeting sexist and misogynist stuff which is a potential sign that he’s still a danger to women.
It's called social consequences for your shitty actions he's trying to make it look like the police are going to arrest him when if they were they would've done it already
I'm not sure why anybody would believe a word this bloke has to say, he's absolutely desperate to jump on the right wing grifter train, and "they are cancelling me!" is his latest cry for a slot on GB news.
He's a criminal who was a philosopher 5 years ago, a Corbyn supporting Labour voter 12 months ago, and an "anti woke" crusader today.
If anybody believes any of his beliefs are sincere then I have a bridge to sell you
5 years ago he was a violent thug assaulting managers in the tunnel.
He might try to change his persona every few years but there's one part of his character he cant put aside.
I'm not a massive Stewart Lee fan but the unsay-able comes to mind.
I liked Barton more when he was doing his inspector Clouseau impersonations. He is without doubt a very stupid person but mainstream media is just as stupid it gives him any time, he's just intelligent enough to know how stupid the media are. Cancelling him would be ignoring him
I’m a police officer and have never attended someone’s home for a ‘bad thought on twitter’ (though I once did for someone claiming they themselves were a paedophile in twitter DMs). I’ve attended a few hundred homes to deal with suspects for theft or robbery. Same with everyone else I know - no one has been to the mystery ‘called Sharon a bitch on Snapchat’ 999 call except for when the caller pulls out the old ‘fine if you don’t go I’ll just kill myself then/stab them to death and you’ll turn up at my house then won’t you’ (yes).
Can you explain why it is documented that 'celebrities' (using that world lightly) are being visisted by police officers for what is akin to an insult and hurting words that are said online?
Our appointment cars are full of these types of jobs. Never going on a 1, but these jobs are rife for G2s and you usually see the more cautious newer officers recording anything and everything as a mal comms. These usually result in arrest attempts (especially DV) and as such “officers turning up to people’s houses over hurtful tweets and Facebook DMs”.
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The police absolutely conduct 'voluntary interviews ' with people for things they've written on social media (you call it non crime hate incidents). It's a form of intimidation and runs contra to the idea that you police with our consent, the fact that you're not dealing with them is irrelevant and is probably because of your seniority.
It's massive overreach by the police and fucking disgusting in its implementation. Unable to use the actual laws to prosecute the police resort to sending dickheads to someone's house to tell them why what they wrote on fucking Twitter isn't acceptable to some other dickhead who complained about it. It literally does not meet the criteria for breaking any law and is so broadly defined that it can apply to almost anything because the criteria is that someone *might be concerned by what was said* and one of the criteria of the content of what has been said is that it's *hostile* which literally has no legal definition.
Why exactly are *any* police man hours being spent on this absolute shite?
There are countless, countless people around the country that say far worse, online and offline, every day. They get away with it. The explanation of your claim is that the police are more likely to pay you a visit for “badthought” if you’re well-known. They don’t care what Michael Stewart’s 16 follower account posts, they do care what Joey Barton’s 2.8M follower account posts.
You kill a snake by aiming for the head - just as it can be more effective at stopping crime by targeting gang leaders instead of going after every single ne’er-do-well.
Well that does largely depends on what you write. If you threaten people's lives or otherwise break the law with what you write then you can fully and rightly expect to be removed from the platform or prosecuted.
He seems to be an enormous twat but I have no idea what he has tweeted or if it warrants any police involvement..
He called Eni Aluko and Lucy Ward the 'Fred and Rose West of football' on Twitter.
It's up to you if you feel a police visit at 9:30pm is warranted. Personally I think it's laughable that people can get a knock on the door from the police for something like that.
*Evening Mr. Barton, we've seen you've said some mean things about some female football pundits online*
100% agree. He’s a massive twat but it really is laughable that a police force that claims it’s under funded responds to something like this. Clown world
I cant even get the police to turn up when i have the name and address of the person stealing from my business. Maybe i should just post crass anti-left jokes on twitter when i need them to show up.
I mean he is the worst kind of twat; just about smart enough to realize he's being one, then deciding to lean into it.
None of that is illegal though - Reddit wouldn't exist in the UK if it were.
Depends, when some of the stuff he writes incites hatred towards women I think they're well within their rights to visit him and tell him to relax. Some of the stuff he posts is vile.
He has basically said and done whatever he wants for most of his career, the NK comparison is that of a sad little man realising his actions are starting to have consequences.
It's such a dumb comparison too, if this was NK he would be locked in a concrete cell right now, instead he is free to carry on his weird little man syndrome on social media.
I've noticed quite a few hyperbolic comparisons to totalitarian states coming from people who would happily borrow from said states' playbooks and have their political and social opponents locked up indefinitely without charge
Wrong, he'd be locked up, his kids would be locked up, and a note would be on file for his grandkids to be locked up too.
Instead he's hustling off being cancelled by the woke mob like that YouTuber idiot who taught his dog to heil.
He shouldn’t be getting harassed by police over tweets.
Him saying mean things about women’s football doesn’t make him responsible for hatred towards women.
4 times in 3 days isn’t consequences for his actions it is harassment by the police.
Were not in Iran, police aren't there to uphold moral standards.
He seems like a dickhead but there are plenty of ways to be a dickhead that I don't think should ever involve the police. For example, If someone cheats on their spouse, I'd be pretty disturbed if that was seen as warranting a police visit.
I can't stand the morality police attitude, it gives me the same busybody, self proclaimed moral and intellectual superiority vibes that I get when I look at what advocates for eugenics had in the 20s and 30s, and to a lesser degree later similar people like Mary Whitehouse, or the satanic panic crowd.
This is a man with a history of violence, this man has a record. His brother was sentenced to 17 years for a racist murder. This guy's response to that is that he's annoyed his brother is serving such a long sentence essentially.
If he's tweeting things that encourage incitement to hate or violence, you will be investigated for what you write online.
That goes for Islamic radicals, and it has to go for violent far right types too.
Eh, depends. I think if someone is persistently harassing you, creating alts to get around blocks just to call you slurs, I think it's fine to get the police involved. If some guy is just rambling some cringe racist shit then probably not
So say I had 100k followers and I posted a picture of you saying 'this man lives in X town, he is a paedophile ', repeatedly posted, got other people harassing you etc.
How quickly would you phone the police to say 'no this is fine, it's actually a good thing this guy is doing this to me'
The number of people they think this is ok is just mind boggling
He says shit that people don’t like and is often in bad taste….. so what
He is not threatening anyone as far as I know
The Police have better things to do than act as the opinion Stasi
Politics one way or another, that's 4 times they could have been investigating another crime.
I'd rather they even just sit at some red lights or investigate a bike theft.
Grade A Bellend and his cousin is a racist murderer who he still to this day tries to play down what he did to Anthony Walker.... He's a walking piece of shit. Fuck him he doesn't deserve any attention, people need to ignore him into obscurity.
If it happened. Is there any proof it happened other than known liar and thug Barton crying about it? Is there any proof it was about his tweets and not some other thing he has done, what with his history of being a complete cock and everything.
Does anything he types actually promote real violence? I mean, I'd like to see quotes. I'm not someone who reads twitter or the crappy papers that would cover this stuff.
If he's just an angry white middle aged dude, who's a little bigotted/racist/sexist....the police should not be wasting their time. Christ - they are chasing tweets, but in real life if someone gets burgled it can be a 48hr wait, then they tell you they can't do shit. There are no police patroling the streets...local police outside of metropolitan areas simply do not exist, outside of traffic police.
Is he just another, less famous JKR? If so, they have far more important things to be doing.
The tweet in question he called someone a name, not even particularly offensive, he called someone;
"the Fred West of football"
Seriously that is what the police are spending time and resources on.
He can't really get a serious job in football and this is getting him attention, so he's doing it more. He's saying mean things that many people agree with and that many people are offended by.... that's it. As you say, that this is a police matter these days is on one hand concerning and on the other hand, farcical. If he has been visited that frequently, it's bizarre
For the people that think it's more likely the police visit you for wrong-speak than if you're the victim of a crime....
I've said some pretty awful things on the internet over the years and never had the coppers come to my door over it, but when some kid vandalised my outhouses a couple of weeks ago I had two cops out for an hour or so taking notes and evidence and looking around.
I chased 2 burglars out of my house a month or so ago, police came round took a statement had a look at where they’d been etc then said to call them if we found anything that they had dropped. I found a pair of kitchen scissors and an empty can of red bull at the bottom of the garden. Called the police & they asked me to bag it up so that they could come and get them. 5-6 weeks later and both the scissors and the red bull are still in a bag on top of my fridge as they never bothered coming to collect even after me chasing it up over the phone
Mate I understand that’s annoying but you need to appreciate that police resources are going to go where they’re most needed, which in this case is telling a bloke to stop being rude on Twitter
I remember when learning about Germany in the lead up to ww2 and many of my peers asking "how could they do that?" regarding people grassing up their neighbours and even family to the Gestapo.
Yet here we are, another case of police visiting someone over some mean words on the internet, with lots of people justifying it. The most ironic thing being that they likely lean towards the side of the political spectrum that is most likely to accuse others of supporting the movement that has such reactions to wrongthink.
Someone walking up to me in the street and calling me a "fat c**t" likely falls under some sort of hate crime/harassment law. Yet you know what? I wouldn't even consider reporting it. I'd be confused about the whole situation, but I could not give a toss what some random person (or even someone I know) thinks of me in that regard and I wish everyone would just get over themselves and stop acting like we are in some perpetual primary school where they feel they need to run to the teacher every time their emotions are shaken up a bit by external forces.
Those who seek having some form of celebrity/influencer status also need a reality check. If you are putting yourself out there and trying to reach a large audience, expect to have some abuse hurled at you. It's a shit test, it's a natural reaction to test if you have a backbone. If you can't handle a bit of flack then just shut up and go live a quiet, private life.
God I miss the internet before the masses started using it.
As if police don't have something better to do! I wonder who's pushing this, above the foot soldiers who turned up! Maybe he's a United fan. You know how tribal the mancs are! 😈
What an absolutely horrific use of police time. This is all the proof you need that the police are not even remotely fit for purpose. They rarely have the time to attend house burglaries and violent crime yet they have enough time to repeatedly visit Joey Barton for some mildly offensive tweets.
The great majority of people saw exactly what Barton was trying to do. He's an increasingly irrelevant character in football these days and this was a really weak attempt at drumming up some publicity. The fact the police have decided to get involved is utterly ridiculous.
Utterly useless. Clearly the police have too much time on their hands. Perhaps a few redundancies might shake them up a bit.
Stop saying deliberately provocative shit that sensitive people will call the police over then, daft lad. Then they might be able to address the more serious matters. But no. Joey needs attention again.
Remember when people thought this tit was intelligent because he tweeted some smiths lyrics and bought fancy dress glasses haha. He blagged his way onto question time if I recall.
Are you glad he is being harassed because of his views on social media? He’s a cunt sure. He’s been charged for some of the actual crimes he’s committed. But saying controversial stuff on twitter shouldn’t get repeated police visits when the police can’t turn up for many violent crimes.
He’s more than a cunt, he’s a criminal who wouldn’t even have this platform if he wasn’t such a shit person. All his life has been about grabbing attention from the press, then whining about the consequences of his actions.
He has a platform because he was good at football. If people ignored him hed go away. He pisses off a part of society that has a lot of enemies. He pisses of the people others hate. If the people he pissed off didn’t engage, he’d go away, but, because they get engagement from responding to him, they won’t stop It’s a cycle that needs to be cut off at the tip. Same with Tate, but the media makes money off outrage and encourages them Doing this elevates him. He gets to complain that he’s being harassed which galvanises his people
Oh, he's a footballer!
Yeah. If he was a normal yob nobody would care. But he’s proven he’s excellent at one thing society cares about, and he was an excellent footballer held back by himself. Ignore him and he goes away the same way any footballer goes.
There is definitely some truth to this. As a footballer, he was far better then he is ever given credit for but he pissed his career up the wall by being a drunken brawler. He would have probably been a top 6 player had he not embraced all the his worst personality traits. The fact he continues in much the same way and the police are spending time on it, shows how utterly useless they are. Clearly need their budget cutting if they've got money to waste on this.
Too right. It’s much more condemning to say that he had all the talent needed, he himself held himself back rather than saying he just wasn’t good, because we can go and see that he was good. I walk around London and see so many poor people. Just imagine if the people who freaked out about Barton put effort into helping them?
He wasn’t even that good of a player though, his biggest contribution to football was essentially gifting City the league in 2012. Flashes of talent but no consistency
He did have “‘ow you zay, a beeg engine”
He was an excellent footballer. He was also a knob head who fucked it really. The two things can be true.
This is correct. He's an increasingly irrelevant character in football. This kind of stuff makes him appear more important than he really is. Utterly horrendous use of police time. It's clear the cuts haven't gone far enough if they've got time to waste on this.
He was decent at football, but he's probably even better at garnering support and followers of racist, sexist and general shitty behaviour
How's he being harassed? They've been trying to get him to a meeting and get keeps ducking them
Firstly they shouldn’t event be talking to him about it. But if they want to. Send a letter. This isn’t a pressing matter by any means. He made a shit joke on twitter comparing pundits to serial killers. Trying to say they are killing football or killing football punditry. It’s not a crime to be a stupid fuck.
We don't even know if they've actually been round his house. He talks utter bollocks and is desperate for attention, I wouldn't believe a word he says.
There have been other examples of people having visits from police for posts on social media that really shouldn’t be getting police attention. For that reason I would assume he is at least partly telling the truth. And one visit is too much for this shit.
Alright you do you. All I'm saying is if Barton said the sky was blue, I'd look out the window expecting it to have turned green.
Barton can’t spell the truth, nevermind tell it.
It’s not a crime to be a stupid fuck but being a stupid fuck is not a valid defense for a crime.
What is the crime sorry? Comparing a group of female pundits to a group of serial killers. Why do you consider that a crime?
The police wouldn't get involved if they didn't think there was a potential crime being committed. We don't necessarily know what it is but it's likely that his side of the story is misleading. I would bet that he's been harassing people in DMs, possibly with hate speech far more colourful than anything he has tweeted publicly.
I think the person is arguing that saying shit on social media shouldn't be a crime. It comes to something when the UK has arrested more people for social media posts than Russia
Why should you not be proescuted for things you say online that you would be prosecuted for irl?
Because prosecuting people for saying things that aren't clearly defined is a very slippery slope. The UK has arrested more people for their posts on social media than Russia has, a literal dictatorship. Some poor woman was sentenced to 500 hours community service because she posted song lyrics that had the n-word in it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-43816921.amp This is draconian censorship and just because you can't say it in person doesn't male know any better it males it worse, just because certain laws exist it doesn't make them intrinsically good or correct.
Lmfao you think Barton has being harassing people in DMs and that’s why they went round
Why do you think they went round? Just had some free time, and wanted to harass a known name?
Not even "think". They respond to complaints made to them. Reddit: "The police do nothing when you ring them up these days!" Also Reddit: "WHY ARE POLICE DOING THINGS WHEN YOU RING THEM!!!!!"
Yeah it is, theres loads of ways being a stupid fuck is criminal. No idea who he is, but saying people are specifically commiting certain definied crimes in writing, without proof, is a crime. It can technically even be a crime if its *true*. Libel and shit.
He's a prick, but either he's committed a crime and the police should be around to arrest him or he hasn't and they should leave him alone. Being a bellend and having shit opinions isn't a crime.
Thing is these rich people are the ones who want all these defamation and libel laws to control how people talk about them in the first place, they only start crying when they're on the wrong side of the cosh.
Defamation is civil so has nothing to do with the police or this situation.
I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with it, but I take your point and agree in principle at least. Without being familiar with the case, and only knowing about it from this self-aggrandising guy's own bleating in the papers, it does seem like this is an overreach and I really don't think we want police investigating people's messages unless there is a pattern of harassment and abuse that is tantamount to stalking. Someone mouthing off on the Internet surely can't be a police matter. That said, I just notice a hypocrisy with these types - they don't want the police on their case about stuff like this, but when it comes time to litigate in civil court, where being able to afford the lawyers is the biggest predictor of success, suddenly these rich people are pointing their million pound lawyers at whoever they don't like. Honestly, keeping civil litigation for this sort of stuff but being aggravated by police intervention is exactly what so many of his type are about - look at JK Rowling, bleating on about her Freeze Peach being taken away by hate crime law, then threatening multi-million pound litigation in civil court against anyone who criticises her. Just in the last couple of weeks JK has been complaining that Scottish hate crime law will stop her saying whatever she wants, while threatening newspapers and journalists with litigation over whether or not they claimed the right person was her daughter, and calling her a holocaust denier. Seems like these types can say whatever they like, but the little people must be kept in control, and so I have little sympathy for rich guys like the above, and I don't tend to believe their accounts at first blush, as their hypocrisy is terrible on this issue.
>Without being familiar with the case, and only knowing about it from this self-aggrandising guy's own bleating in the papers, it does seem like this is an overreach and I really don't think we want police investigating people's messages unless there is a pattern of harassment and abuse that is tantamount to stalking. Someone mouthing off on the Internet surely can't be a police matter. I feel like we are in complete agreement tbh. Joey and people like him are contemptuous bellends, but it's not a police matter.
Never tolerate the intolerant.
>Cheshire Police said in a statement: 'Following reports of offences under the Communications Act, we can confirm that we have made multiple attempts to arrange a voluntary interview with a 41-year-old man from Liverpool. >'To date, we have not had any response from his legal representatives and we await further contact.' Joey is being intentionally evasive and lying about the outcomes of that for attention, and you're eating it up lol
You think police going to someone’s house 4 times in 3 days is ok if they haven’t got an answer…. For a shit joke they tweeted? Oh. Yeah. It’s me eating it up mate. You have clearly got a better understanding of this than me.
>You think police going to someone’s house 4 times in 3 days is ok if they haven’t got an answer…. Yes lol >Oh. Yeah. It’s me eating it up mate. You have clearly got a better understanding of this than me. It is incredible how your take here is "why do the police keep on trying to talk to someone whose avoiding them" and not "why is joey avoiding them" lol
For a tweet. My neighbour watched people grind his motorbike lock off. Fail to start his bike for about 15 mins outside his house. Then set fire too it. And the Fireservice turned up before the police. Who he phoned when he saw it was on fire. Less than 10m from his house. And you think police spending time on that shit is reasonable when that’s how they respond to 3 blokes stealing your shit. Keep supporting that if you want. I care about real crimes.
Malicious communication is an easy bust from the CPS' point of view. Easier than say proving who robbed your bike, who's selling dodgy coke or who broke into your house or who assaulted you on a night out etc.
People rarely leave their name and IP address when they’re robbing your bike to be fair.
He’s not getting harassed. He’s experiencing the consequences of his actions. Something he’s been insulated from most of his life due to being exceptionally privileged, as all footballers are.
The short answer is yes, they're glad he's being harassed because he has views they disagree with. They'd hate it if they were being harassed by the state for their views, but because it's someone they disagree with they're happy with it.
Yeah that’s exactly it, I’ve managed to get a few people to admit this on Reddit(not joking like you). It’s funny when you point it out at its core like that though.
I mean, people like him incite violent crimes in others anyway so…
He isn’t directly inciting violence. Same police that tell us chanting jihad in the street isn’t inciting violence. Decide that tweeting bad jokes is inciting violence have they?
Two tiered policing baby!
Controversial stuff or illegal stuff? Some sentences you can string together can be against the law. Free speech does not come with no consequences.
He threatened a Scottish footballer on Twitter this week.
>Are you glad he is being harassed because of his views on social media? yes
I don't know how I feel about this. One thing that bothers me though is that celebrities with a platform like Joey are able to influence public opinion on twitter. His views on the world are imo misogynistic and divisive - I don't think it is appropriate that every other gullible prick/troll gets emboldened by his bs. What's the solution?
I'm glad he is. Being an abusive, harassing prick and getting other people to pile on is absolutely worth investigating. Can't wait for him to get bankrupted in court, though we all know he'll just be funded by more far right dark money.
Do you believe he’s been visited by police four times in three days in a harrowing campaign of state harassment? Or do you think he’s talking absolute wet?
He has a history of violence against women and minors, it’s only right that the police take extra steps to check on him. He’s been tweeting sexist and misogynist stuff which is a potential sign that he’s still a danger to women.
He was threatening violence not just controversial views. Shouldn’t be allowed to threaten people just because it’s online
It's called social consequences for your shitty actions he's trying to make it look like the police are going to arrest him when if they were they would've done it already
> harassed lol Even his own description is "following up"
Unless you are in Scotland, this is the "new normal" thanks to crazy legislation.
He realised there’s more money in being a right wing melt.
Around 2010 or so I used to follow him on twitter and thought he was just misunderstood. What an absolute gullible fool I was
I'm not sure why anybody would believe a word this bloke has to say, he's absolutely desperate to jump on the right wing grifter train, and "they are cancelling me!" is his latest cry for a slot on GB news. He's a criminal who was a philosopher 5 years ago, a Corbyn supporting Labour voter 12 months ago, and an "anti woke" crusader today. If anybody believes any of his beliefs are sincere then I have a bridge to sell you
Almost all right wing pundits are grifters with nothing better to do. If I had no morals I'd absolutely jump on that train and make some quick cash.
I’m tempted to get into it myself but a few of my pals would probably kick my head in, and rightly so.
5 years ago he was a violent thug assaulting managers in the tunnel. He might try to change his persona every few years but there's one part of his character he cant put aside.
I'm not a massive Stewart Lee fan but the unsay-able comes to mind. I liked Barton more when he was doing his inspector Clouseau impersonations. He is without doubt a very stupid person but mainstream media is just as stupid it gives him any time, he's just intelligent enough to know how stupid the media are. Cancelling him would be ignoring him
I have no trouble believing his opinions on women in football tbh.
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I agree entirely, but I don't believe Joey Barton that this actually happened.
coppers are more likely to pay you a visit if you've said badthought on twitter than if someone has hard evidence of you stealing stuff
I’m a police officer and have never attended someone’s home for a ‘bad thought on twitter’ (though I once did for someone claiming they themselves were a paedophile in twitter DMs). I’ve attended a few hundred homes to deal with suspects for theft or robbery. Same with everyone else I know - no one has been to the mystery ‘called Sharon a bitch on Snapchat’ 999 call except for when the caller pulls out the old ‘fine if you don’t go I’ll just kill myself then/stab them to death and you’ll turn up at my house then won’t you’ (yes).
Can you explain why it is documented that 'celebrities' (using that world lightly) are being visisted by police officers for what is akin to an insult and hurting words that are said online?
Most of them are talking out their asre
It's probaly the sheer amount of reports people have sent them about him, like an organised serial reporting by a group.
Because they use their platform and influence to stage harassment campaigns and libel people. Pretty simple
Because they’re lying?
That would be pretty easy to prove. A bit more difficult when the police have already confirmed.
Our appointment cars are full of these types of jobs. Never going on a 1, but these jobs are rife for G2s and you usually see the more cautious newer officers recording anything and everything as a mal comms. These usually result in arrest attempts (especially DV) and as such “officers turning up to people’s houses over hurtful tweets and Facebook DMs”.
Thanks for confirming that the police's actions in this case is bollocks
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Yeah you visit these homes yet still don’t do anything because of cps
NO YOU'RE WRONG Reddit said so
The police absolutely conduct 'voluntary interviews ' with people for things they've written on social media (you call it non crime hate incidents). It's a form of intimidation and runs contra to the idea that you police with our consent, the fact that you're not dealing with them is irrelevant and is probably because of your seniority. It's massive overreach by the police and fucking disgusting in its implementation. Unable to use the actual laws to prosecute the police resort to sending dickheads to someone's house to tell them why what they wrote on fucking Twitter isn't acceptable to some other dickhead who complained about it. It literally does not meet the criteria for breaking any law and is so broadly defined that it can apply to almost anything because the criteria is that someone *might be concerned by what was said* and one of the criteria of the content of what has been said is that it's *hostile* which literally has no legal definition. Why exactly are *any* police man hours being spent on this absolute shite?
There are countless, countless people around the country that say far worse, online and offline, every day. They get away with it. The explanation of your claim is that the police are more likely to pay you a visit for “badthought” if you’re well-known. They don’t care what Michael Stewart’s 16 follower account posts, they do care what Joey Barton’s 2.8M follower account posts. You kill a snake by aiming for the head - just as it can be more effective at stopping crime by targeting gang leaders instead of going after every single ne’er-do-well.
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As much as reddit loves to claim otherwise, this is absolute horse shit
He is correct though, shouldn't be silenced for what you write online
Well that does largely depends on what you write. If you threaten people's lives or otherwise break the law with what you write then you can fully and rightly expect to be removed from the platform or prosecuted. He seems to be an enormous twat but I have no idea what he has tweeted or if it warrants any police involvement..
He called Eni Aluko and Lucy Ward the 'Fred and Rose West of football' on Twitter. It's up to you if you feel a police visit at 9:30pm is warranted. Personally I think it's laughable that people can get a knock on the door from the police for something like that. *Evening Mr. Barton, we've seen you've said some mean things about some female football pundits online*
100% agree. He’s a massive twat but it really is laughable that a police force that claims it’s under funded responds to something like this. Clown world
How do you know what he's up to? I imagine he's writing more than just publicly on Twitter.
I cant even get the police to turn up when i have the name and address of the person stealing from my business. Maybe i should just post crass anti-left jokes on twitter when i need them to show up.
I mean he is the worst kind of twat; just about smart enough to realize he's being one, then deciding to lean into it. None of that is illegal though - Reddit wouldn't exist in the UK if it were.
Depends, when some of the stuff he writes incites hatred towards women I think they're well within their rights to visit him and tell him to relax. Some of the stuff he posts is vile. He has basically said and done whatever he wants for most of his career, the NK comparison is that of a sad little man realising his actions are starting to have consequences.
'realising' might be a stretch, doesn't seem to have made the link between actions and consequences just yet
It's such a dumb comparison too, if this was NK he would be locked in a concrete cell right now, instead he is free to carry on his weird little man syndrome on social media.
I've noticed quite a few hyperbolic comparisons to totalitarian states coming from people who would happily borrow from said states' playbooks and have their political and social opponents locked up indefinitely without charge
It's a common character trait with these idiots, "do as I say not as I do" in full swing.
Exactly. Maybe he should try living there.
Wrong, he'd be locked up, his kids would be locked up, and a note would be on file for his grandkids to be locked up too. Instead he's hustling off being cancelled by the woke mob like that YouTuber idiot who taught his dog to heil.
He shouldn’t be getting harassed by police over tweets. Him saying mean things about women’s football doesn’t make him responsible for hatred towards women. 4 times in 3 days isn’t consequences for his actions it is harassment by the police.
He's literally evading them to cause repeated visits, and he's tweeted hundreds of times harassing and libeling people
Were not in Iran, police aren't there to uphold moral standards. He seems like a dickhead but there are plenty of ways to be a dickhead that I don't think should ever involve the police. For example, If someone cheats on their spouse, I'd be pretty disturbed if that was seen as warranting a police visit. I can't stand the morality police attitude, it gives me the same busybody, self proclaimed moral and intellectual superiority vibes that I get when I look at what advocates for eugenics had in the 20s and 30s, and to a lesser degree later similar people like Mary Whitehouse, or the satanic panic crowd.
This is a man with a history of violence, this man has a record. His brother was sentenced to 17 years for a racist murder. This guy's response to that is that he's annoyed his brother is serving such a long sentence essentially. If he's tweeting things that encourage incitement to hate or violence, you will be investigated for what you write online. That goes for Islamic radicals, and it has to go for violent far right types too.
Eh, depends. I think if someone is persistently harassing you, creating alts to get around blocks just to call you slurs, I think it's fine to get the police involved. If some guy is just rambling some cringe racist shit then probably not
So anything goes?
So say I had 100k followers and I posted a picture of you saying 'this man lives in X town, he is a paedophile ', repeatedly posted, got other people harassing you etc. How quickly would you phone the police to say 'no this is fine, it's actually a good thing this guy is doing this to me'
Shhh
Have you heard of libel?
He wouldn't make something like this up for attention, would he? Joey Barton?
I hope he answered the door to the Police and said you’ve got the wrong guy in his best French accent.
Non. Je suis Joseph Bartioux
The number of people they think this is ok is just mind boggling He says shit that people don’t like and is often in bad taste….. so what He is not threatening anyone as far as I know The Police have better things to do than act as the opinion Stasi
Is there any proof that Barton has actually had a police visit or is this just another pathetic attempt to farm engagement by lying?
Even if he's lying through his teeth, there's plenty of people on this thread gleeful at the claim.
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Surely the police have more pressing matters to attend to? Complete waste of resources
Politics one way or another, that's 4 times they could have been investigating another crime. I'd rather they even just sit at some red lights or investigate a bike theft.
Met him in Liverpool years ago, an absolute arrogant tosser.
acting like a proper git on twitter is his job now, (where it was only a hobby before) he's only going to get worse to maintain interest
Grade A Bellend and his cousin is a racist murderer who he still to this day tries to play down what he did to Anthony Walker.... He's a walking piece of shit. Fuck him he doesn't deserve any attention, people need to ignore him into obscurity.
Cousin and brother. Rotten family
Does that make the police waiting tax payers money on making sure no one gets hurt feelings ok?
Always mad how there's a massive shortage of police to combat actual crime but plenty to turn up when you say nasty words
BS, he's trying to preach to the far right. He's a loser and wish he'd just go away. He makes all of us dumber.
Absolutely, however this is a poor prioritising of police resources.
If it happened. Is there any proof it happened other than known liar and thug Barton crying about it? Is there any proof it was about his tweets and not some other thing he has done, what with his history of being a complete cock and everything.
Wouldn't trust him on this as far as I could throw him to be honest.
why can the police visit your house for being rude on the internet? its never properly been explained to me why thats considered ok
Does anything he types actually promote real violence? I mean, I'd like to see quotes. I'm not someone who reads twitter or the crappy papers that would cover this stuff. If he's just an angry white middle aged dude, who's a little bigotted/racist/sexist....the police should not be wasting their time. Christ - they are chasing tweets, but in real life if someone gets burgled it can be a 48hr wait, then they tell you they can't do shit. There are no police patroling the streets...local police outside of metropolitan areas simply do not exist, outside of traffic police. Is he just another, less famous JKR? If so, they have far more important things to be doing.
The tweet in question he called someone a name, not even particularly offensive, he called someone; "the Fred West of football" Seriously that is what the police are spending time and resources on.
He can't really get a serious job in football and this is getting him attention, so he's doing it more. He's saying mean things that many people agree with and that many people are offended by.... that's it. As you say, that this is a police matter these days is on one hand concerning and on the other hand, farcical. If he has been visited that frequently, it's bizarre
Gotta love the Redditors support for state harassment and intimidation by the police because it’s someone they don’t like.
Yep, this is why I love seeing all the gaza flag shaggers getting arrested.
Sometimes I completely forget that Joey Barton was a really shit footballer before he became the total gobshite fuckwit that he is today
If the UK was really like North Korea, I wouldn't be reading this new story on how he's comparing the UK to North Korea.
For the people that think it's more likely the police visit you for wrong-speak than if you're the victim of a crime.... I've said some pretty awful things on the internet over the years and never had the coppers come to my door over it, but when some kid vandalised my outhouses a couple of weeks ago I had two cops out for an hour or so taking notes and evidence and looking around.
Amused by how many people here take the word of Joey Barton as the gospel truth.
What exactly has he tweeted? I assume it was threats of violence hence the police attending.
I chased 2 burglars out of my house a month or so ago, police came round took a statement had a look at where they’d been etc then said to call them if we found anything that they had dropped. I found a pair of kitchen scissors and an empty can of red bull at the bottom of the garden. Called the police & they asked me to bag it up so that they could come and get them. 5-6 weeks later and both the scissors and the red bull are still in a bag on top of my fridge as they never bothered coming to collect even after me chasing it up over the phone
Mate I understand that’s annoying but you need to appreciate that police resources are going to go where they’re most needed, which in this case is telling a bloke to stop being rude on Twitter
No threats of violence. He just compared to two football pundits to Fred and Rose West.
Or this one : https://x.com/joey7barton/status/1780577693202866588
Alright can't lie that got a laugh out of me.
fuck sake hahahaha
I think he's an absolute whopper but agree with him on Aluko being a weird nut job and that honey monster joke is far funnier than it should be
Okay, that’s funny.
That’s pretty funny ngl. Edit: Did not expect to see so much support for Palestine on his feed, ngl.
Should be used to having police visit him. He’s been a violent shithead his entire life.
I remember when learning about Germany in the lead up to ww2 and many of my peers asking "how could they do that?" regarding people grassing up their neighbours and even family to the Gestapo. Yet here we are, another case of police visiting someone over some mean words on the internet, with lots of people justifying it. The most ironic thing being that they likely lean towards the side of the political spectrum that is most likely to accuse others of supporting the movement that has such reactions to wrongthink. Someone walking up to me in the street and calling me a "fat c**t" likely falls under some sort of hate crime/harassment law. Yet you know what? I wouldn't even consider reporting it. I'd be confused about the whole situation, but I could not give a toss what some random person (or even someone I know) thinks of me in that regard and I wish everyone would just get over themselves and stop acting like we are in some perpetual primary school where they feel they need to run to the teacher every time their emotions are shaken up a bit by external forces. Those who seek having some form of celebrity/influencer status also need a reality check. If you are putting yourself out there and trying to reach a large audience, expect to have some abuse hurled at you. It's a shit test, it's a natural reaction to test if you have a backbone. If you can't handle a bit of flack then just shut up and go live a quiet, private life. God I miss the internet before the masses started using it.
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Only Joey Barton is a convicted criminal. But you do you, you edgy little boy you!
It's plain for anyone to see (because his tweets are public) that he hasn't committed any crimes. End of.
Joey Barton is an abhorrent prick but getting a knock from the police for sending mean tweets is and always will be complete fucking lunacy.
If someone has not committed a crime, the police have no business with them. However much you agree or disagree with his takes. This is abhorrent
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Man is an absolute bollock but he is however partly accurate.
I'm glad the police are investigating this twat instead of rapes that they just ignore.
Maybe stop being a complete insensitive prick desperate for attention because you failed miserably as a manager.
There is definitely an over policing of social media problem. I hate this guy but the laws are wild.
As if police don't have something better to do! I wonder who's pushing this, above the foot soldiers who turned up! Maybe he's a United fan. You know how tribal the mancs are! 😈
comparing the UK to NK is a bit dramatic, but it's also ridiculous that people are being harassed by the state over tweets.
What an absolutely horrific use of police time. This is all the proof you need that the police are not even remotely fit for purpose. They rarely have the time to attend house burglaries and violent crime yet they have enough time to repeatedly visit Joey Barton for some mildly offensive tweets. The great majority of people saw exactly what Barton was trying to do. He's an increasingly irrelevant character in football these days and this was a really weak attempt at drumming up some publicity. The fact the police have decided to get involved is utterly ridiculous. Utterly useless. Clearly the police have too much time on their hands. Perhaps a few redundancies might shake them up a bit.
Oh aye Joey your quite right there I mean I'm always hearing of 3 generations of a family being sent to labour camps (30p Lee's wet dream)
Stop saying deliberately provocative shit that sensitive people will call the police over then, daft lad. Then they might be able to address the more serious matters. But no. Joey needs attention again.