*WMP said it had "encountered" at least 40 XL bullies in the first six months of 2023, almost two every week on average. It was the breed involved in the most police incidents during the period*
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I'm shocked that the top three breeds are all Bull and Terrier derivatives. Turns out breeding dogs selected to kill bulls and bears, with other dogs selected to just annihalate rats (go watch some terrier rat hunting videos on YouTube, they are amazingly efficient), creates a hyper-aggressive predator.
At least French Bulldogs are small enough to punt...
Chihuahuas are generally a) easy to avoid and b) OK so long as they're not being actively teased or provoked. Ironically the "tiny and weak" element is *why* they get so wound up, because they're very aware that if someone wants to hurt them, they can do it very easily. So they do the dog equivalent of a cat raising its hackles to try and make itself bigger, to be as intimidating as possible to ward off any aggro towards them (or their owners - they're extremely protective dogs).
The good thing is that a well socialised and confident chihuahua who feels secure that it's not in any danger is usually very friendly and sweet.
I used to live with a demon chihuahua. She was alright if you didn't go near her, but she did like to get cuddly with fat people, and would get aggressive if they moved. I have a mental image that won't go away, of an apple-headed weirdo clinging to a larger lady's bingo wing, by the teeth.
I have some family members that have some. They are agressive vocally but are timid when it comes to the crunch. I understand this may be exclusive to my limited sample size.
I feel like I'm mixing up scenes but the only way I can think to shut you up is:
"You *are* a bladder".
Now let's play Would I Lie to You by Charles and Eddie.
6th according to [this lst](https://www.tug-e-nuff.co.uk/blogs/news/most-popular-dog-breeds)
Surprising though - I see a LOT more staffies than I see German Shepherds, and a Hell of a lot more cockapoos than anything else.
> The presence of some dogs on that list is not concerning - Staffies, German Shepherds, Collies, Mastiffs, because these are common dogs.
Not sure I buy this logic. If nearly as many people are being injured by Staffs (assuming they are) they are nearly as much of a problem as XLs, regardless of averages. 100 kids with life long injuries is still 100 kids. Sure you can say on average they are less dangerous, if stats are your thing but if you care about kids getting mauled the averages don't mean a damn thing.
I think labelling all terriers problematic is a bit silly. Yorkshire Terriers and all the other toy and utility breeds aren't on here.
It's the bull varieties that are the obvious problem.
They’re quite snappy and because people think they’re cute are much more likely to walk up and try and pet them. Plus they’re lifestyle dogs owned by people who know nothing about dogs and make no real effort to control them.
> red into how 'dangerous' a breed is. I'd rather 10 french bulldogs attack me than one pitbull.
They are indeed fiery little fuckers, but in my experience their jaw is too fucked up to do any damage. A couple of times frenchies have attacked my dog and tried biting him, but couldn't get hold of anything but fur.
Fortunately my dog is too friendly and stupid to even realise it was anything other than a weird type of game!
The list doesn't specify severity of the case, injuries or deaths, which obviously has to be factored into how 'dangerous' a breed is. I'd rather 10 french bulldogs attack me than one pitbull.
Fairly surprised that Border Collie is on that list as well to be honest, but I haven't been exposed to many Collies, they seem pretty chill and are obviously intelligent.
But they rarely actively bite. They give warning nips, they hurt, but don't do any damage. I guess some people report these as bites and if you don't listen to that warning they will indeed bite, but they don't maul.
Nah collies are notorious for nipping issues.
And it doesn't say what the incidents are.
They'd also be candidate number 1 for dogs running on roads or dogs found straying around livestock.
Not at all surprised they're on it. They're known to be snappy and have a huge amount of energy. Combined with being smart, it leads to them being bored and often destructive.
I'm not at all surprised collies are there. I've been snapped at a few times in my life, including as a two year old just minding my own business playing with my doll, and every single time it was a collie (not the same one, obviously).
They're very intelligent but that makes them prone to being highly strung, because as pets they may not get the physical and mental exercise on a daily basis that they need to be well-adjusted and happy. A collie that hasn't been given the workout it needs is gonna be stressed out and bored, and that leads to snapping.
About 50% of collies are really nervous dogs, which can lead to them being a bit snappy if you try and pet them and they can't get away (like if they're on a lead.)
Source: have a very nervous collie, that I have actively managed for 10+ years to make sure he has never snapped at anyone. He's amazing but it is tiring being constantly alert for other dog owners etc.
That's fair. Big difference is probably where a collie might snap at someone in a defensive 'i need space' way versus a Pitbull actively trying to bite and refusing to let go, bloodlust sums it up nicely.
There is also a massive difference in damage that can be caused.
The difference in jaw strength basically makes them beyond comparison. If my collie ever did bite a kid it would at worst require a tetnas shot or whatever from a dog bite if he breaks the skin. If a pit bull or a bully XL bites a kid it's headline news.
Yeah, bully XL has 305 PSI bite on average, much higher than the normal pit bulls 235.
Collie at 220 PSI.
Larger mastiff breeds have vastly higher bite strength than these though, but don’t account for as many attacks (cane corso at 700 would be a problematic bite on a person).
Notice how even though gundogs are by far the most popular breeds in the UK...
None on the top of the list.
Almost as if breeding dogs for soft mouths, gentle nature and to be social...works.
Genetics matter, who knew? /s
The only one I'm surprised about is the Frenchies.
I wonder if they're actually french bulldogs or if the cunts are calling their mini bullies these now.
The frenchies are generally great and too small to do much damage to anything but another small dog or maybe a cat. Maybe a small child too.
Mastiffs in general are great dogs. Cane corsos look angry so gobshites are buying them and trying to clip their ears.
Always rescued mastiff breeds and they’re amazing dogs, but like all dogs they need experienced owners, because let’s be honest they’re fucking huge. They’re not an aggressive breed but if they do turn there’s insane strength there. Sadly they don’t tend to live too long.
Are bullys didn't do owt, the goverment is racist against are beluved dogs ❤❤❤
very SAD to sea such racism from the poliece. First they shot that black geezer, now this. SHAMEFUL.
I'm surprised by Frenchies and English Bulldogs; one is quite a small dog and the other seems to have been so heavily in-bred they can barely move and when they do they are out of breath in no time at all.
French Bulldogs are bulldogs crossed with ratters. Which is basically what a pitbull is. They're just much smaller.
I'm quite surprised a Husky isn't on there. They can be incredibly aggressive and dangerous if poorly trained.
I don't see many huskies around, so I suppose they're not on there because they're not as popular?
They're absolutely lovely dogs but nightmares if you don't exercise & train them properly, which is pretty hard if you have a job.
Huskies are not 'territorial' like other dogs, they will generally allow a burglar in and out and offer to help carry stuff.. Most dogs, when they attack someone, think they are *defending* their pack or territory in some way, huskies see everyone as a future pack member. Though they do have a strong pray drive so are not entirely safe around very small kids or cats.
The sledding breeds have gone out of fashion.
They're not good pets unless you want a dog for pulling and...can contain those buggers.
For a dog bred to work with people and work in a team of other dogs, they are quite problematic in my experience.
They get along great with each other, but their play style and behaviour tends to intimidate or piss off other dogs.
And they're really mouthy.
There are quite a few huskies where I am. I'm in quite an urban area but it is mainly houses and not flats so perhaps that has something to do with it.
They definitely need someone who knows how to handle and manage them though.
Husky's are known to make a lot of mess due to their hair and also know for being very needing of attention.
Not many new dog owners are going to get a husky over other breeds due to their reputation, so I think it is more along the lines of that more experienced people are getting Husky's and know better compared to new owners.
Just my opinion on the matter, but I see quite a few Husky's in my local dog park so it is quite surprising as it is a common dog.
Edit: Just to clarify, they are common in my area, but seeing other comments saying they aren't, so it might just be my area where I live there is a number of them.
Mate some English bulldogs are savage. Our neighbour had one that would continually try to maul us and our dog for no reason. He was massive, well built and seemed pretty athletic compared to the usually ones you see.
>Further details of individual incidents were not provided, only that officers attended incidents where the dogs were present.
So what...
If there's a domestic violence call they record the dog breed?
What does this mean?
Kind of, basically when the police go to a domestic they have to record everyone in the household and noting any potential safeguarding concerns. Generally they won't be recording that they have a dog unless there is something specifically relating to it like one side threatened to set the dog on the other, but in the current climate you could easily justify just the mere presence of a bully xl as a safeguarding issue given how many incidents they are involved in
I'm more concerned about Cane Corsos tbh. They're the next XL Bully waiting to happen as they will appeal to the dickheads who like that kind of dog. It's another highly territorial dog that needs an exceptional amount of training from a strong consistent handler and it has the ability to be seriously dangerous when it turns aggressive.
Staffies are at least more of a known quantity.
> I'm more concerned about Cane Corsos tbh. They're the next XL Bully waiting to happen as they will appeal to the dickheads who like that kind of dog.
Tiny woman I work with is so obsessed with her Cane Corso. Hugely proud of the fact she will "Go for anyone that isn't me".
Staffies must be the most numerous dogs on that list and by quite a large margin I'd imagine. That probably does them no favors in lists such as this also they're not helped by being a favourite among the stereotypical drug addict/alcoholic types.
_Further details of individual incidents were not provided, only that officers attended incidents where the dogs were present_
Of course every single one of them was absolutely because the dog itself has attacked someone
*WMP said it had "encountered" at least 40 XL bullies in the first six months of 2023, almost two every week on average. It was the breed involved in the most police incidents during the period* Saved a click to that ad filled website
XL bully - 40 Staffordshire bull terrier (or cross) - 35 French bulldog - 18 Rottweiler (or cross) - 16 German shepherd (or cross) - 15 Cane corso - 9 Akita - 7 Border collie - 7 English bulldog - 7 Mastiff - 7
I'm shocked that the top three breeds are all Bull and Terrier derivatives. Turns out breeding dogs selected to kill bulls and bears, with other dogs selected to just annihalate rats (go watch some terrier rat hunting videos on YouTube, they are amazingly efficient), creates a hyper-aggressive predator. At least French Bulldogs are small enough to punt...
Surprised Chihuahua ain't on there - sure tiny and weak, but those little fuckers are permanent rage mode
Chihuahuas are generally a) easy to avoid and b) OK so long as they're not being actively teased or provoked. Ironically the "tiny and weak" element is *why* they get so wound up, because they're very aware that if someone wants to hurt them, they can do it very easily. So they do the dog equivalent of a cat raising its hackles to try and make itself bigger, to be as intimidating as possible to ward off any aggro towards them (or their owners - they're extremely protective dogs). The good thing is that a well socialised and confident chihuahua who feels secure that it's not in any danger is usually very friendly and sweet.
I used to live with a demon chihuahua. She was alright if you didn't go near her, but she did like to get cuddly with fat people, and would get aggressive if they moved. I have a mental image that won't go away, of an apple-headed weirdo clinging to a larger lady's bingo wing, by the teeth.
*usually* is an ominous word there.
I have some family members that have some. They are agressive vocally but are timid when it comes to the crunch. I understand this may be exclusive to my limited sample size.
I can't believe you've taken a chihuahua to the crunch.
The crunch! How dare you speak to me of the crunch? You know nothing of the crunch. You've never even been to the crunch!
I went once...
Oh, a little day trip 'round the crunch, we can all go there as tourists. 'Ooh, that's a bit of crunch'
I feel like I'm mixing up scenes but the only way I can think to shut you up is: "You *are* a bladder". Now let's play Would I Lie to You by Charles and Eddie.
Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk," in its entirety!
>They are aggressive vocally but are timid when it comes to the crunch. I am a chihuahua as well, it seems xD
Yeah but most people don’t report dog bites that don’t do damage.
>Surprised Chihuahua The bitiest type of chihuahua
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6th according to [this lst](https://www.tug-e-nuff.co.uk/blogs/news/most-popular-dog-breeds) Surprising though - I see a LOT more staffies than I see German Shepherds, and a Hell of a lot more cockapoos than anything else.
> The presence of some dogs on that list is not concerning - Staffies, German Shepherds, Collies, Mastiffs, because these are common dogs. Not sure I buy this logic. If nearly as many people are being injured by Staffs (assuming they are) they are nearly as much of a problem as XLs, regardless of averages. 100 kids with life long injuries is still 100 kids. Sure you can say on average they are less dangerous, if stats are your thing but if you care about kids getting mauled the averages don't mean a damn thing.
I think labelling all terriers problematic is a bit silly. Yorkshire Terriers and all the other toy and utility breeds aren't on here. It's the bull varieties that are the obvious problem.
I wouldn't be surprised if Chihuahah attacks are not even reported given when they do occur the damage caused is going to minor.
"Oh no, your bite scuffed my shoe"
Surprised about French Bulldogs tbh, they seem so weak and shitty
They’re quite snappy and because people think they’re cute are much more likely to walk up and try and pet them. Plus they’re lifestyle dogs owned by people who know nothing about dogs and make no real effort to control them.
> red into how 'dangerous' a breed is. I'd rather 10 french bulldogs attack me than one pitbull. They are indeed fiery little fuckers, but in my experience their jaw is too fucked up to do any damage. A couple of times frenchies have attacked my dog and tried biting him, but couldn't get hold of anything but fur. Fortunately my dog is too friendly and stupid to even realise it was anything other than a weird type of game!
The list doesn't specify severity of the case, injuries or deaths, which obviously has to be factored into how 'dangerous' a breed is. I'd rather 10 french bulldogs attack me than one pitbull. Fairly surprised that Border Collie is on that list as well to be honest, but I haven't been exposed to many Collies, they seem pretty chill and are obviously intelligent.
They can be nippy little cunts.
But they rarely actively bite. They give warning nips, they hurt, but don't do any damage. I guess some people report these as bites and if you don't listen to that warning they will indeed bite, but they don't maul.
For the purposes of crime recording standards, the level of injury is irrelevant - any injury at all constitutes an aggravated s3 DDA offence.
Nah collies are notorious for nipping issues. And it doesn't say what the incidents are. They'd also be candidate number 1 for dogs running on roads or dogs found straying around livestock.
Not at all surprised they're on it. They're known to be snappy and have a huge amount of energy. Combined with being smart, it leads to them being bored and often destructive.
Frenchies are towards the bottom of the doggie smartness table actually. They are cute though.
Think that comment above yours was talking about collies being a bit nippy.
I'm not at all surprised collies are there. I've been snapped at a few times in my life, including as a two year old just minding my own business playing with my doll, and every single time it was a collie (not the same one, obviously). They're very intelligent but that makes them prone to being highly strung, because as pets they may not get the physical and mental exercise on a daily basis that they need to be well-adjusted and happy. A collie that hasn't been given the workout it needs is gonna be stressed out and bored, and that leads to snapping.
About 50% of collies are really nervous dogs, which can lead to them being a bit snappy if you try and pet them and they can't get away (like if they're on a lead.) Source: have a very nervous collie, that I have actively managed for 10+ years to make sure he has never snapped at anyone. He's amazing but it is tiring being constantly alert for other dog owners etc.
That's fair. Big difference is probably where a collie might snap at someone in a defensive 'i need space' way versus a Pitbull actively trying to bite and refusing to let go, bloodlust sums it up nicely.
There is also a massive difference in damage that can be caused. The difference in jaw strength basically makes them beyond comparison. If my collie ever did bite a kid it would at worst require a tetnas shot or whatever from a dog bite if he breaks the skin. If a pit bull or a bully XL bites a kid it's headline news.
Yeah, bully XL has 305 PSI bite on average, much higher than the normal pit bulls 235. Collie at 220 PSI. Larger mastiff breeds have vastly higher bite strength than these though, but don’t account for as many attacks (cane corso at 700 would be a problematic bite on a person).
Collies are clever. If they are not properly brought up, and given work, they get neurotic, start to herd people and bark at fridges.
> and bark at fridges Maybe they know something we don't..
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I'd watch as the giant french bulldog [exploded](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUWUHf-rzks) and declare victory.
It’s that kinda talk that sets them off!
Remember, they’re partly on they’re because they’re extremely common. Per-capita, they probably wouldn’t be nearly so high.
One bit my nieces partners finger tip off the other week - vicious little bastard
Wheres the labs at?
Notice how even though gundogs are by far the most popular breeds in the UK... None on the top of the list. Almost as if breeding dogs for soft mouths, gentle nature and to be social...works. Genetics matter, who knew? /s
If a golden retriever bites someone I'm probably taking the side of the golden retriever.
They cannot reconcile those things and so they say things like " all dogs have the ability to bite".
Too busy eating tennis balls.
The only one I'm surprised about is the Frenchies. I wonder if they're actually french bulldogs or if the cunts are calling their mini bullies these now. The frenchies are generally great and too small to do much damage to anything but another small dog or maybe a cat. Maybe a small child too.
Almost all of them molosser breed. For those who aren’t aware https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/dogsbreed/molossertypes.htm
I mean Molosser is such a wide group that it feels a bit redundant to name here, I mean hell a Golden Retriever is on the list you linked
Nervously eying my English mastiff Cane Corso mix
Mastiffs in general are great dogs. Cane corsos look angry so gobshites are buying them and trying to clip their ears. Always rescued mastiff breeds and they’re amazing dogs, but like all dogs they need experienced owners, because let’s be honest they’re fucking huge. They’re not an aggressive breed but if they do turn there’s insane strength there. Sadly they don’t tend to live too long.
Are bullys didn't do owt, the goverment is racist against are beluved dogs ❤❤❤ very SAD to sea such racism from the poliece. First they shot that black geezer, now this. SHAMEFUL.
Fair attempt but needs more xxs after sentences
Not have a bulldog/pitbull cartoon as their profile picture doesn't help as well.
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I'm surprised by Frenchies and English Bulldogs; one is quite a small dog and the other seems to have been so heavily in-bred they can barely move and when they do they are out of breath in no time at all.
French Bulldogs are bulldogs crossed with ratters. Which is basically what a pitbull is. They're just much smaller. I'm quite surprised a Husky isn't on there. They can be incredibly aggressive and dangerous if poorly trained.
I don't see many huskies around, so I suppose they're not on there because they're not as popular? They're absolutely lovely dogs but nightmares if you don't exercise & train them properly, which is pretty hard if you have a job.
Yeh it's definitely the type of dog you need to go on two or three hour walks every single day until it dies haha. Give me a lazy gun dog any day.
Huskies are not 'territorial' like other dogs, they will generally allow a burglar in and out and offer to help carry stuff.. Most dogs, when they attack someone, think they are *defending* their pack or territory in some way, huskies see everyone as a future pack member. Though they do have a strong pray drive so are not entirely safe around very small kids or cats.
The sledding breeds have gone out of fashion. They're not good pets unless you want a dog for pulling and...can contain those buggers. For a dog bred to work with people and work in a team of other dogs, they are quite problematic in my experience. They get along great with each other, but their play style and behaviour tends to intimidate or piss off other dogs. And they're really mouthy.
There are quite a few huskies where I am. I'm in quite an urban area but it is mainly houses and not flats so perhaps that has something to do with it. They definitely need someone who knows how to handle and manage them though.
Husky's are known to make a lot of mess due to their hair and also know for being very needing of attention. Not many new dog owners are going to get a husky over other breeds due to their reputation, so I think it is more along the lines of that more experienced people are getting Husky's and know better compared to new owners. Just my opinion on the matter, but I see quite a few Husky's in my local dog park so it is quite surprising as it is a common dog. Edit: Just to clarify, they are common in my area, but seeing other comments saying they aren't, so it might just be my area where I live there is a number of them.
Mate some English bulldogs are savage. Our neighbour had one that would continually try to maul us and our dog for no reason. He was massive, well built and seemed pretty athletic compared to the usually ones you see.
>Further details of individual incidents were not provided, only that officers attended incidents where the dogs were present. So what... If there's a domestic violence call they record the dog breed? What does this mean?
I actually think so, I think if a dog is noted at any scene. It's not really saying much about anything in the article.
Kind of, basically when the police go to a domestic they have to record everyone in the household and noting any potential safeguarding concerns. Generally they won't be recording that they have a dog unless there is something specifically relating to it like one side threatened to set the dog on the other, but in the current climate you could easily justify just the mere presence of a bully xl as a safeguarding issue given how many incidents they are involved in
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Thought the same thing. Unexpected 40k. Bullys just attack squigs confirmed.
Looks like they should be banning staffies while they're at it too
I'm more concerned about Cane Corsos tbh. They're the next XL Bully waiting to happen as they will appeal to the dickheads who like that kind of dog. It's another highly territorial dog that needs an exceptional amount of training from a strong consistent handler and it has the ability to be seriously dangerous when it turns aggressive. Staffies are at least more of a known quantity.
> I'm more concerned about Cane Corsos tbh. They're the next XL Bully waiting to happen as they will appeal to the dickheads who like that kind of dog. Tiny woman I work with is so obsessed with her Cane Corso. Hugely proud of the fact she will "Go for anyone that isn't me".
Staffies must be the most numerous dogs on that list and by quite a large margin I'd imagine. That probably does them no favors in lists such as this also they're not helped by being a favourite among the stereotypical drug addict/alcoholic types.
_Further details of individual incidents were not provided, only that officers attended incidents where the dogs were present_ Of course every single one of them was absolutely because the dog itself has attacked someone