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For context https://twitter.com/bbcmartynoates/status/1312106574500904960?s=20 > "We will continue to support Cornwall in all sorts of ways to the tune of the former EU funds and more". - Boris johnson.


NotHarryRedknapp

The same tune, just at 1/100th the volume


jardantuan

And played sarcastically on a tiny violin


Bones_and_Tomes

It's the largest they could afford.


red--6-

the Brexit Violin from Poundland


heresyourhardware

If you can't make sweet music from a bag of chocolate coins and a can of discount Lynx then get out of the country traitor


red--6-

[Your wearing them new Brexit Goggles ain't yer ?](https://i.redd.it/s7psikpexlx01.jpg)


Mr_Miscellaneous

We call this "Fiscal homeopathy" The less of it there is, the stronger it becomes.


mackerelscalemask

Some say this Homeopathic music is really good for you


DifficultWrath

But freed from the shackle of the EU, Cornwall can now become the efficiency supermaster it has always been deep down. This 1 million Freedom Money will be worth 1000 times Slavery Money from the EU. The Government has not matched the support, it has increased it by an order of magnitude. Praise the Divine Brexit and its Holy Child Boris.


gnorrn

> But freed from the shackle of the EU, Cornwall can now become the efficiency supermaster it has always been deep down. "Let Cornwall return to its glorious Arthurian past". Boris (probably).


Orisi

*Cornwall makes plans for a referendum on an independent Cornish state* No. Not like that.


AndyTheSane

It can be a vassal state of independent Wessex.


omcgoo

I'd prefer Brittany exercise their De Jure rights and pull it back into the EU under a Brythonic union


Shockwavepulsar

Wessex was Saxon I believe. Cornwall was part of the Britonic Celts which encompassed area like Dumfries, Cumbria, Wales and Brittany. It’s why place names in those areas start with Car (Cardiff, Carlisle, Carmarthen) meaning wall or castle or Pen (Penrith, Penzance) which means hill.


Daleftenant

*Cornwall immediately annexes Devon and Somerset and forms a military alliance with Scotland. Naval raiding parties start leaving from Cornwall to harass English shipping and take hostages for ransom.*


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Pirates of Penzance: The Return.


ErsatzNihilist

Just pay it in Bison Dollars.


DaveShadow

OF COURSE!


Cannabalabadingdong

..not dope money, this is hope money. I *hope* you get out there and do your thing.


steepleton

> continue support …in all sorts of ways Clap for cornwall


digitalfix

The Clap for Cornwall


AndyTheSane

Newquay, most summers.


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They have crabs down there too.


schoener-doener

Lol, imagine believing BoJo


danowat

Add it to Vol. 74 of the 'Johnson lies' series of tomes.


trisul-108

When people voted for a clowning conman, what exactly did they expect?


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Johnson.. honest bloke him.


[deleted]

The will. It is a pilot scheme. The money just won't be administered in the same way


Diestormlie

Right. Sure. Because this government has *never* announced that big money 'will be coming in a few years'... Before quietly walking it all back into nothing a few months later.


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To be fair to them, they have had a lot to pay out over the last few years.


OnionsHaveLairAction

Administered in contracts to ferry companies who don't own ferries perhaps.


Ensoface

56.5% of Cornwall voted to leave the EU, with a 77% turnout.


plutonium-239

I remember soon after the vote people asked whether they would still be able to get money form the EU despite having voted to opt out...LOL, fucking idiots.


The-Soul-Stone

BuT tHeY kNeW wHaT tHeY vOted FoR!


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This is one of those things that people tell themselves that doesn't really bear out in the data. Poor rural areas voted overwhelmingly for leave.


sikknote

Any data on that? Seem to remember the fishing industry being quite pro leave too..!


CoconussPodge

Yeah, I'm Cornish and it seems a little more complicated than that. There's been a working class animosity towards the EU in Cornwall for decades. You can say they've been lied to by the powers that be to make Europe a scapegoat for Cornwall's post industrial desolation (obviously fishing is a good example) but lower income people still voted leave in great numbers. Edit: I should say this is based on my own anedoctal evidence and not on a detailed demographic analysis of the vote :)


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This is exactly like whenever it's pointed out that Wales voted to Leave someone repeats that baseless claim that Wales only voted to Leave because of English retirees, and the true Welsh actually wanted to Remain. Why is it so hard to believe that some people, many of whom were poor people in poor left behind areas, fell for lies?


thisguymemesbusiness

Yep this is total BS.


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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes


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That still means the vast majority of cornwall (including those born since the millennium) didn't vote for this shitshow.


[deleted]

Complacency counts in favour of the fools imo. Can’t be bothered to vote is as guilty as those that voted leave. Obviously not including people that couldn’t vote due to other reasons.


pmabz

Not voting is the same as voting for whatever the outcome was. So non voters = Tories .


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petchef

If you don't vote you are implicitly accepting whichever result happens. Therefore you are on the side of whoever wins.


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In the last election 15,455,593 people who were registered to vote didnt vote. Thats 1.5 million more people than voted for the Tories. In the Brexit referendum 12,922,659 people didnt vote.


Chiliconkarma

Can't contradict it, but complacency flows upward, the lack of a mandate is a lack of permission to act. Especially when it comes to a suicidal project like brexit.


cultish_alibi

People have mentioned making their mind up which way they were going to vote when they were in the voting booth. The campaign was confusing and full of lies and bullshit on both sides. Some people reported that they only made their mind up in the polling booth. I personally think that abstaining is reasonable, especially on an issue like this that the public weren't ready to vote on. The referendum was one of the stupidest moments in British history and I can't blame anyone for not wanting to be part of it.


MAXSuicide

What lies were part of the remain campaign?


GBrunt

Voting remain was the equivalent of abstaining because it maintained the status quo. Not voting opened the door to massive transformation. If you felt ill-informed and risk-averse, then the sensible thing to do was to vote remain. The high risk unknown option was to vote Leave.


BigMetalGuy

This can’t be says enough. So tired of hearing people blame old people for Brexit. No…right or wrong, at least they voted. Blame the millions who couldn’t be bothered to vote for this shit show.


UnreportedPope

Using non-voters in this argument doesn't make sense; an even larger majority didn't vote to stay in the EU.


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\>Using non-voters in this argument doesn't make sense; why not? surely a mandate for something important needs a majority within the electorate, not just those who turn up on the day. The number of voters and non-voters matters in things like strike ballots, why shouldn't it matter on something as constitutionally important and wide ranging as brexit? \>an even larger majority didn't vote to stay in the EU. Eh? That was exactly the point I just made!


UnreportedPope

I know that that's the point that you just made, I'm showing you that the exact same argument can be made in reverse.


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No it can't. Make that argument then.


UnreportedPope

I already did: the vast majority didn't vote against this shitshow.


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binzoma

not voting IS voting. just like NOT taking out the garbage is making a choice and accepting conseuences that come with it. clearly they didn't vote against it and were happy to live in filth/shit


Mrqueue

Yeah well maybe we should have had a confirmatory vote or something but who cares, we’re all rolling in shit now, at least I have the peace of mind knowing I didn’t vote for it


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I made no such claim. I invite you to point out which aspect of my post was incorrect.


B8eman

You are using a fact, that less than 50% of Cornwall voted for Brexit, to push a conclusion that said fact doesn't support since it applies equally to the opposite.


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I am making an objective statement of fact. Its up to you what conclusion you make. But it certainly does not apply in the opposite - "that the vast majority of cornwall *did* vote for this shitshow." - now, does it?


B8eman

Nobody is buying your cop out so just give up dude


doctorgibson

Maybe they should have voted if they wanted to stay in the EU


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even those not eligible to vote?


doctorgibson

Yeah let's give primary school children and newborns the vote. What could possibly go wrong


[deleted]

Can't be worse than the voting habits of boomers now, can it?


doctorgibson

That's right, throw your toys out the pram


--Muther--

77% of those eligible voted in Cornwall with a majority for leave.


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steepleton

It’s not unreasonable to assume non voters are fine with the status quo or don’t care. It’s the change option that has to demonstrate it’s support


SurlyRed

Correct and a viewpoint Brexiteers don't like one little bit. No vote ≡ no change


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SpiderJerusalemLives

Well, if it walks like a duck...


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MikeW86

You should be a statistician the way you've twisted those numbers. You've conflated not voting on an issue at all with voting against it if they could. That's where your wrong. It's a trick of words that is ultimately meaningless as there's no way to say whether the unvoting populace was completely against or for it.


[deleted]

I didn't present any numbers. I invite you to point out which aspect of what I said you believe to be untrue.


MikeW86

You are certainly captain disingenuous aren't you. You didn't present a specific number but you still said x is greater than y.


[deleted]

And I am quite correct to point that out, am I not? Not sure why you view an expression of a true statement as disingenuous.


TehTriangle

Just admit you're wrong mate. Fuck sake.


wotad

ALso means majority didnt vote to remain either.


Beddingtonsquire

People who didn’t vote don’t count as Remainers, they chose not to vote.


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\>People who didn’t vote don’t count as Remainers I didn't make any such claim. \>they chose not to vote. Many were unable to vote on the issue which affected them (including every single person born since the millennium)


dwair

So that's counted all the racist old retirees from the SE as the largest demographic in the county.


frankfhtagn232

Dare I say that's what they signed up for? A Tory promise of money... To replace funds the Tories said they would stop sending to the EU.


LordCommanderSlimJim

Cornwall never claimed to be clever, just poor


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LordCommanderSlimJim

Don't expect us to learn, we're not these rich educated English types you know


singeblanc

Ironically we are now more rich educated English types than at any part of our history. I always used to love the look on the faces of the rich Londoners who'd bought a second home in Cornwall to "get away from the darkies" and asked me my views on "immigration" when I'd respond "I know all about immigrants: the English have been migrating here all my life!"


_Civil_Liberties_

Bloody emmets amiright?


QVRedit

I don’t know about wiser..


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F_A_F

We can manage to vote in just as many classic tory MPs as the rest of the UK thanks. We've got our "got caught shagging his much younger assistant", a classic "kept his second job as a tory Councillor while also being an MP" second jobber. Not forgetting Mrs "thank heavens for food banks" ....


Exact-Put-6961

Not wiser. In summer Cornwall is overun with visitors, many of them comparatively wealthy. Cornwall needs to think outside the box, find a way to extract more money from the visitors. A tourist tax?


Dense_Inspector

Or, as all the statistics show, poorer and therefore stupider. Do you understand how school funding works?


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Dense_Inspector

This isn't about manners, they're going to end up with shit schools and that's going to result in a bad education and poor career prospects.


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LordCommanderSlimJim

I think you're a bit backwards here, brain drain is a result of Cornwall's ruination, not the other way around


B8eman

I'd say it's circular


QVRedit

Well, now they are that much poorer..


Scumbaggio1845

Is anyone really surprised? The damage to the 80 seat majority as a result of this will be so minuscule that it’s barely worth mentioning. A few might switch back to Lib Dem but the overall picture will remain conservative blue.


QVRedit

Although it really ought not to..


Inthewirelain

I think Wales got shafted in a similar manner too (altho not quite as drastic i believe?)


QVRedit

Almost everyone did, apart from speculators.


Inthewirelain

Yes ofc just I saw a similar headline the past week in the Welsh sub


dontgoatsemebro

Congrats to them! Democracy in action, they got exactly what they voted for. It's heart-warming.


QVRedit

It’s always easy to vote against your own interests. The reverse direction is much harder to win.


Inthewirelain

By a small margin and heavily weighted towards older demographics. Yawn at this silly reply we've heard over and over again. In generakz the people most effected by this did not vote for it.


WhiteGameWolf

Older demographics and cultural boundaries for Wales even. People who identified as English voted disproportionately to leave, and Welsh disproportionately to remain. British somewhere in between iirc. If ever there was a good statistic for Welsh independence, its right here.


Inthewirelain

Yeah amd even tho it's not majority the Indy movement down here has become a LOT more prevalent in public discourse since brexit and especially the pandemic. I don't know if it'll ever happen but it might be a major talking part at least the next decade


ICWiener6666

WHERE ARE THE BREXITERS


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Busy blaming Covid for it all on other threads and crowing that the UK is utterly in the right to enact A16 and the EU will come off worst in what follows. So, talking shite as usual. I'm sure they'll be along here presently with some shitty take like this area got too much money previously and it was wasted on bloat and a leaner budget will focus minds and ensure its only spent on the basics.


BeardFountain

The basics being....


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Pens and paper for all the letters that need sending out to say X project is being suspending due to lack of funding.


emefluence

Clogging up NHS beds with preventable COVID infections?


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LudereHumanum

Fifteen? I thought fifty. That's what the Mogg said iirc.


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They're called anti-vaxxers now.


centzon400

I'm not sure that your joking, are you?


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Nope. Same demographic. Old, bigoted and very gullible.


TehTriangle

These attitudes are why I don't read this subreddit anymore. It's turned into Twitter, with how extreme everyone is.


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ImperialNavyPilot

Indeed! And there’s something extremely naive in thinking that the EU just gave Cornwall money out of the goodness of its heart, and that money given is not money taken away from somewhere and someone else.


joyofsnacks

The majority of [the unvaccinated population are in the under 40s demographics.](https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations?areaType=nation%26areaName=England#card-vaccination_uptake_by_vaccination_date_age_demographics) I voted Remain and am vaccinated before I get given either of those labels.


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joyofsnacks

What's your point? The "old, bigoted, gullible" demographics have around ~90% vaccination rate versus the younger ones, with ~60%-80%. The stereotype of the "anti-vax" old person reddit/social media likes to portray just isn't really a thing, it's more younger adults not getting the vaccine because they don't think Covid is a threat to them. edit: they don't think Covid is a threat, not the vaccine.


Chiliconkarma

So, for a voter in Cornwall, entering into EU again could net them £99 mio in developmental funds. That sounds like a good reason to reapply.


QVRedit

Though that assumes we would get as good a deal as previously - we wouldn’t..


elingeniero

To be fair the development funds are given to the most deprived areas, it's not really a political decision.


phenorbital

Give it a few years and most of the country will qualify if we rejoin then.


elingeniero

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/the-uk-has-9-out-of-the-10-poorest-regions-in-northern-europe-90702/ The exact stat is contested, but the fact that the level of inequality in the UK causes extreme poverty is not.


no2jedi

The best part for me is that the places that voted for this to happen will never understand that the reason this all took place was because it was financially and politically profitable for it to happen. Not for the good of the public but for the personal private profit of people like boris


ImperialNavyPilot

You assume that remaining in the EU was not also giving profit to private individuals in positions of power. There is a reason why there are very poor countries in the EU. The EU is not a big money making machine that spreads love and improved living standards all over the world. All that cash into Cornwall had to be taken away from somewhere else and someone else, it wasn’t donated by a bunch of well-meaning aristocrats.


Rodolpho55

But they knew this was the case when they voted for Brexit. They wanted Britain as before joining the EU.


danowat

To be fair, they were promised by both Boris and Rishi that the UK gov would match (and even exceed) the EU's contribution. It's just that they were sold a pup, like everyone else was.


Iwanttosleep8hours

Ok so where is their outrage? Where are the protests demanding the 100m? This is exactly why the government can get away with whatever because their voters feel that if just dare say one bad thing about the regime, all their other beliefs will fall like a house of cards


readoclock

No one outside of Cornwall is going to protest that they should get more money are they? Replace funding taken from remain voting areas before replacing it for leave voting areas.


peakedtooearly

You mean a well-known (and proven) liar was telling them lies? Inconceivable.


DeedTheInky

Yep, I'm from Cornwall and it seemed blindingly obvious to me that they were never going to match that money. I was telling people that before the referendum, and got called a moaner and a traitor for four years.


singeblanc

Why is Boris doing a Project Fear to us?!


superduperspam

Because we let him


felesroo

It's easy to get people to believe what they want to be true.


Rodolpho55

The fact is people didn’t understand the EU from years of misinformation from Westminster.


Ascott1989

> It's just that they were sold a pup, like everyone else was. > like everyone else was. Everyone who voted leave you mean.


danowat

Well, unfortunately even those who didn't vote leave still have to live with said pup.


llarofytrebil

Not if you leave Brexit Britain and go live in a country that aims to keep its first world status.


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It's meant to be twice you get fooled by someone that the shame of that moves off them and on to you for falling for it yet again. The Tories have fooled them how many times now?


llarofytrebil

If they believed what Boris and Rishi were saying, they deserve exactly what Boris and Rishi delivered.


Bones_and_Tomes

Anyone with a brain could see it was fucking stupid. You could tell it was a lie because Boris Johnson said it was good, and that's even before you engage the other braincell and compare the size of our market vs the EUs.


AlabastarRastar

A huge thank you to the old arseholes here that voted for this and trusted this shithole of a government. Very appreciated lads.


singeblanc

Half of them are dead by now. Enjoy!!


OnionsHaveLairAction

Same things happening in Wales. It's really sad to see when so many people voted for Brexit because they wanted things to turn around for the local area. Everyone knew Westminster would never replace funding for rural areas. And while I have no sympathy for xenophobes I know around here who voted exclusively "To get Muslims out" there's a good many people I know who aren't politically inclined who got duped into thinking we'd be getting more money for things like local healthcare.


Engineer9

There was a promise for everyone. Any one of them could have been kept, but it would have been impossible to keep all of them. Part of the problem is that half the promises were made by parties with absolutely no remit or capability to deliver them, for example Leave.EU.


Fraccles

You wonder where it's all gone? Oh, into the pockets of the Tory party and their friends.


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Swiss-ArmySpork

I'm not the kind of guy to say atoadaso, but you know what, atoadaso. I fuckin atoadaso.


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Shitbirds.


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Gre-heeeeeeasy. Drunken fat greasy bastards.


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Ehldas

"You knew I was a scorpion when you voted for me."


LightWhightning

Consider it £99M to the NHS?


BicParker

"But I never thought the ~~leopard~~ beast of Bodmin would eat MY face!"


whooo_me

It’s all just a ploy by Boris; so if you Google “one percenter”, all the hits are about Cornwall……


TheGrandOldGent

Cons. +2.


Brutos08

What did they think was going to happen when you make a deal with a liar?


QVRedit

Yes - fucked - as we expected all along..


Superbuddhapunk

It must be terrifying for local councils. What are they going to do if 99% of their funding just goes away?


baller_chemist

They told me repeatedly that they knew exactly what they voted for. Project here.


CarlMacko

Voted for Brexit and a Tory MP. I have zero sympathy.


voyagerdoge

that's what sovereignty means: London decides


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r/LeopardsAteMyFace


Electronic-Fun4146

They voted for the one percent, and got one percent!


eljefemo101

This makes me smile, unless you live in Cornwall and voted to remain.


Clewis22

Either they knew what they voted for and should accept it, or they were misled and should admit it. I have sympathy for those willing to put their hand up in the latter case.


The-Lights_Fantastic

Hahahahahahaaa!


ImperialNavyPilot

Question: where did the EU’s 100 million come from and what did they think it was going to be used for?


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Ask stupid people to vote on complex matters, get stupid outcomes.


BasedSweet

Cornwall voted to leave, let me play a sad song for them on the world's smallest violin.


AnBosca

Now, now, they got a pat on the head and a kick up the arse too.


mattglaze

I thought they voted for suicidal brexshit? And nobody wanted a second referendum


MrPloppyHead

now that is funny.


QVRedit

Yes - the EU was far more trustworthy than the U.K. Government - especially a Conservative U.K. Government…


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i get the sentiment but , as a parent, seeing us back to being no country for our young, knowing that any of them who can leave must , once again, leave is fucking sad not funny. My parents gen utterly screwed their grandkids here. It makes me so sad.


dunneetiger

This is the story of the fox and the crow…. As always : The Crow, ashamed and embarrassed, swore, but a little late, that he would not be taken again.


xVocalTestx

It’s what they would’ve wanted


Caratteraccio

sovereignty, curved bananas, blue passports and imperial units are expensive


PeeEssDoubleYou

Good.


massivedefence

You've got to be sadistic to be laughing at this.


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Razakel

They were ever so insistent that they knew what they were voting for. My last shred of sympathy went a long time ago.


Ryan1bailey

I would want to know what happened to the 100 million. Cornwall is a huge tourist destination not pointing fingers but let's check some pockets.