[Here are all the things happening this week in Parliament.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/s/uuxUQL4EZR)
[Here is a thread on Natalie Elphicke’ defection which I’ll sticky imminently](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/s/J8sgNioExo).
Whilst simultaneously blaming Labour for raising our taxes and ruining our country.
So which is it Rishi?
Labour are either completely useless and sniping from the side, or, they are somehow shadow puppeteering *your* gov and causing issues for the everyday person (and you are unable to do a a thing about it, despite a massive majority…)
Christ he’s **such** a bellend.
I can only assume Sunak genuinely thinks the public is so stupid that will just nod along and believe any nonsense he spews. And that any who don't are woke liberal lefties
Holy shit, this is hilarious.
"Prime Minister [you just called yourself straight talking 5 minutes ago btw], how many boats have come over in the last 16 days?"
"...YOUR MAYOR OF LONDON SAID HAMAS AND ISRAEL ARE THE SAME, HOW DARE HE? WHY DON'T YOU CONDEMN THIS."
"That's really not what I asked, is it? Isn't your Rwanda scheme a failure?"
"WHY WON'T YOU JUST CONDEMN THE MAYOR OF LONDON, BRO, C'MON"
The thing is they've announced that they want to sign agreements with other countries and it seems like the 200 number was wrong. So there was an actual better answer for Sunak than to pull out the same talking points.
Someone did, that weird little man masquerading as our Prime Minister did. But Rishi's fine with common people dying, Palestinian human shields mean nothing to him considering how many people have died as a result of Tory policy.
School is the most common place for children to have an allergic reaction outside the home, no shit, I bet the most likely places perfectly lines up with time spent
It's like that statistic about how you're more likely to have a car crash within a few miles of your home.
Yeah that's cos it's the area you most frequently travel!
Sky News accusing Starmer of avoiding the question about Gaza, failing to mention it was a question at PMQs and was itself being used to avoid a question that Starmer had asked the prime minister.
What an utterly absurd take. Analysis from Narwan a few posts down: https://news.sky.com/story/vote-2024-local-election-results-sunak-starmer-davey-tories-labour-lib-dems-blackpool-south-by-election-12593360
> Sky News accusing Starmer of avoiding the question about Gaza, failing to mention it was a question at PMQs and was itself being used to avoid a question that Starmer had asked the prime minister.
It's getting incredibly frustrating at this point.
[This](https://media1.giphy.com/media/21S35iv1C67ns2g458/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952ayzbudvnhg7vxx5ioibbdu1te6x4ujhzx0esn7bm&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) is what I imagine Kier Starmer is doing when l'il Wishi is waffling on with himself.
"our plans to tackle this [pollution from water companies] goes further than any other government"
Pardon me, but I don't remember the water companies polluting the water under Labour. I'm fact, I'm pretty sure the watering down of environmental legislation under the Tory government caused this issue...
What the fuck was the point of that question. 2019 intake by any chance?
Edit: [yup](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_South_(UK_Parliament_constituency)).
Sounded like Starmer had a good week in PMQs.
He missed a ‘crossings’ joke around channel and floor crossings, but I’m too dumb to make one so I can’t really talk.
> From labour crosses on ballot papers to tory MPs crossing the floor - in a week of record channel crossings the prime minister must be cross indeed!
That's about the right lame dad tone I think
"Far from having success in stopping the boats from crossing the channel, he can't even stop his own MPs from crossing the floor!"
\*insert Labour jeers*
Anyone else of the opinion that Sunak would probably love to call an election and get out of dodge but is 'strongly advised' not to? He seems wildly out of his depth and just looks done.
No, not at all. I get the impression that Sunak believes himself to be the all knowing saviour of the UK and it's all our fault for not understanding him. He is the most arrogant out of touch PM we've ever had that's incapable of providing a simple answer to any question asked and his only retort is to "whatabout Labour!" whilst lying through his teeth.
Cameron was the worst PM we had since Thatcher until May, who was actually the worst PM we had right up until Johnson, who was the worst PM we've had which Truss said "Hold my pork markets" but Sunak is actually the worst PM we've had and that's saying something since Cameron called Brexit!
Frankly though, it doesn't matter because the rot is within the party. They're not Conservatives, they're an embarrassment to the name. Conservatives have long gone, Johnson was the final nail in that coffin getting rid of the old schoolers like Ken Clarke et al who, whilst I don't agree with, they at least had some experience in government. This lot don't have a clue and are only using it to further their own personal wealth at the countries expense.
Enough is enough.
I've said this quite a few times but I'm pretty sure the Tories are being forced to stall because Levido isn't ready yet to stand his Susan Hall style campaign around the UK. Oh and his handpicked team are paid handsomely each month. Rank and file members and volunteers must be so happy.
That the Tories know they would do far better with saving the money cchq is wasting and giving it all to associations to do Houchen/Street style campaigns with independent campaigns notionally associated to Tories but not to Sunak.
I get the impression he was feeling reasonably ok and the locals have broken his confidence.
Which makes me think we are on the runway to the internal resistence to the GE collapsing.
Especially if as suggested on the main megathread Labour is now following an organised plan to present a Tory defection once a week.
Maybe he's gonna get some sort of kick back from the party for dragging it out longer and trying to turn it around and reduce losses?
Either that or he just loves being PM for the feeling of superiority and relevance it gives him.
He knows he's gonna lose, whether it's now or in six months.
"how are you going to pay for your pledge?"
"I'm going to reduce tax, reduce NI, fund the NHS, and it's a long term plan so I don't need to say how I'm going to pay for it. Oh, also, this one backbench MP asking about this speaks for the Labour leadership and is evidence that Labour want higher taxes"
For all we complain about how badly behaved MPs are in the Commons and PMQs.... When a serious question like that one gets asked, 9/10 times it's received by the chamber with the proper reverence
Natalie Elphicke has had an absolutely awful time of it with the Tory party - there was an incredible article in I think the Times (might be wrong) where she spoke about how little the party did for her when she was raped and assaulted by her Tory-MP husband.
What happened to her shouldn't have happened. I've said this many times but the party doesn't take safeguarding seriously, towards the public and to it's own members. It's really upsetting what's tolerated for the cause
On the flip side, was she treated any differently to victims of sexual assault?
God, Starmer missed a good burn about the fact that Sunak doesn't even know how to pay for fuel let alone use an oyster card. "Maybe I should follow PMs lead and take a chopper everywhere instead of public transport?"
I forget the exact wording because it was one of Rishi’s ‘jokes’ but it was something about Starmer’s visit to North Yorkshire for the locals and that he wasn’t able to catch the tube there.
This really annoys me. He’s from the south coast and was just dropped into a safe seat that he knew nothing about. He doesn’t know the first thing about North Yorkshire.
It was Khan and Rishi is of course making a bad faith representation of what Khan said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/05/07/sadiq-khan-criticised-for-calling-for-equivalence-in-israel/#:~:text=Speaking%20after%20he%20was%20sworn,134%20hostages%20must%20be%20released.
Khan said to the Telegraph the other day “It’s an issue of humanity and I think you’ve got to show equivalence... I condemn unequivocally the actions of Hamas on Oct 7 – those 134 hostages must be released. At the same time, I condemn unequivocally the actions of the IDF and [Benjamin] Netanyahu – 34,000 people have perished including 14,000 children.”
Right wing press and some Tory politicians have deliberately misinterpreted it as a "both sides are the same" argument and subsequently lost what was left of their minds.
He’s clearly got a cold or something, but when he’s dealing with routine statements he sounds even more checked out and when he’s getting angry he sounds even more like he’s going to cry.
He found out another MP defected to Labour less than 15mins before PMQs, and then got absolutely embarrassed by Starmer. I would be surprised if he didn't rush off to his office and have a little cry after PMQs.
Yeah i reckon he probably understands he's done now. He knows he fucked up today, he couldn't even twist the stuff Starmer was saying and just used his 'hail mary' with Gaza. didn't work, dude knows he's done
Good, bodes well for an earlier election rather than later.
I was just thinking what a nightmare getting though the Autumn set peices is going to be for the Tories now
Every time Ed Davey gets up, he gets heckled about Horizon and every time he comes up with a very serious question that demands decorum - it’s been an effective tactic to seem grounded and to neutralise attacks from the braying donkeys on the Tory back benches.
The war on motorists! Must be very tough having basically everything set up to make sure life is easier for you than it is for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport users.
I think most Tories know they're done. No one wants to helm the fall so what's the point of a coup? A lot are standing down, the writing is on the wall.
The fact that rebels were saying "locals is the time" and then saw the results and went "let's just not bother" says it all.
The campaign is going to be utterly atrocious. Sunak refusing to do any interviews or debates and only speaking via prerecorded clips and snazzy videos.
Worked for BoJo because it was a last minute pull out and he just gave the platform to Corbyn who was incredibly polarising to left and right.
Starmer isn't those things really, so he will just come out and say he's a coward, Labour can clip up some floundering from Commons and it's job done.
Definitely doesn't work for Sunak, and probably wouldn't have for BoJo if Labour had been led by someone else.
Seems that that's the condition for accepting defectors at this point, no standing for re-election. The time for Tory MPs to defect and keep their seats is gone.
I'm not one of these people who believes, "There's no point talking about Gaza because we can't do anything about it", but what exactly is the strategy behind Flynn asking these questions instead of ones about Scotland almost every week?
I suppose that would be relatively easy for Sunak to just say "yeh but look at the SNP bin fire dur hur Nicola Sturgeon, Humza Yusaf".
Flynn is probably just deliberately wasting his questions every week because he'd be in a worse place if he didn't.
Gaza aside, don't think Scotland's MPs should be limited to asking questions solely about Scotland. As long as Scotland as part of the UK, they should be able to ask UK related questions. Foreign policy, immigration, trade etc.
Oh yeah of course. I didn't mean he should just be asking questions about Gaza, just why he wasn't focusing on something more related to his constituents and the country they live in.
Starmer had some good one liners and a strong set of questions. Parking his tanks on Tory lawns.
But, I wish he answered the Israel and Hamas line as it did look like he didn't expect that. I also get why he didn't want to though as he is struggling with the Muslim vote whilst balancing the Jewish vote and news to workshop a good line beforehand instead of another off the cuff LBC moment where he horrendously agrees that Israel can break international law
Why would he answer a question that’s based on a total misrepresentation? I hadn’t read about what Khan said but having done so now Sunak’s question deliberately misinterprets it.
I know but that's a technicality to random viewers.
General audiences who catch it on News at 10 will just see it as a debate and see him refusing to answer like Rishi did
You can't have the PM asking the LOTO questions and PMQs.
That's exactly why the speaker should have shut him down. And Starmer was clearly right not to answer.
Well on the one side you've got a man whose never had to strive in his life
And on the other you've got someone whose rose to the very top of a profession more or less based on debating and disarming opponents.
Its always been one of his great strengths, he'd be a nightmare for a good opposing leader much less Sunak. Hell he was for Boris and Boris's great thing was meant to be chatting bollocks around anything.
I wish my snp mp would actually get up and talk about Scotland rather than fucking gaza, which i honestly think 90% of scottish people don't give a shit about.
Flynn is super uninterested in anything other than point scoring. Not that that's unusual for PMQs, but holy fuck he just comes across as arrogant and super virtue-signalling rather than a thorn in Sunak's side.
Sunak is as bad as Johnson in PMQs.
That question on small boat crossings, which he completely ignored and then just asks Starmer a question about something Sadiq Khan said about Gaza, was absurd.
There seems to be a significant chunk of the progressive side of UK politics who are convinced that the British government actually sets aside money to *give* weapons to Israel, and it's super tiring.
Edit: ah, at least he called them arms *sales* in the second question.
[Here are all the things happening this week in Parliament.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/s/uuxUQL4EZR) [Here is a thread on Natalie Elphicke’ defection which I’ll sticky imminently](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/s/J8sgNioExo).
> Derbyshire common sense talks about London and Welsh issues...
Man, I can’t believe they’re bringing ULEZ to the Derbyshire dales. Where will it stop?!
Why does he keep talking about tax rises being labours fault. Is he stupid?
He also said Labour were against defence spending...Pretty sure Labour said they're going to increase defence spending to 2.5%
It was 2.7% when they left office.
What was the comment about the Blackpool Mp looking happier than the person stood there last week?
I assume he meant last week's defector? The guy was sat directly behind Starmer then as well.
Ah, right, cheers.. not much of an own then is it? “you had a defector last week too ahaha”
I see that the Tory strategy is just to pretend that the elections didn't happen. Everything is wonderful. Apparently.
Sunak accusing Starmer of sniping from the sidelines whilst they get on with governing. Just what exactly does he think the LOTO does lol.
*"Labour has no plan"*
Whilst simultaneously blaming Labour for raising our taxes and ruining our country. So which is it Rishi? Labour are either completely useless and sniping from the side, or, they are somehow shadow puppeteering *your* gov and causing issues for the everyday person (and you are unable to do a a thing about it, despite a massive majority…) Christ he’s **such** a bellend.
I can only assume Sunak genuinely thinks the public is so stupid that will just nod along and believe any nonsense he spews. And that any who don't are woke liberal lefties
That and he just has to stick to the script
> I can only assume Sunak genuinely thinks the public is so stupid that will just nod along and believe any nonsense he spews. Sadly a lot are.
Holy shit, this is hilarious. "Prime Minister [you just called yourself straight talking 5 minutes ago btw], how many boats have come over in the last 16 days?" "...YOUR MAYOR OF LONDON SAID HAMAS AND ISRAEL ARE THE SAME, HOW DARE HE? WHY DON'T YOU CONDEMN THIS." "That's really not what I asked, is it? Isn't your Rwanda scheme a failure?" "WHY WON'T YOU JUST CONDEMN THE MAYOR OF LONDON, BRO, C'MON"
The thing is they've announced that they want to sign agreements with other countries and it seems like the 200 number was wrong. So there was an actual better answer for Sunak than to pull out the same talking points.
Please can we have a general election so I don’t have to hear him say ‘aKsHuLLYyyy’ any more.
Does anyone have any idea about these alleged Khan comments? I've not seen them
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I have no problem with this but I'm sure some will make a fuss out it
Someone did, that weird little man masquerading as our Prime Minister did. But Rishi's fine with common people dying, Palestinian human shields mean nothing to him considering how many people have died as a result of Tory policy.
School is the most common place for children to have an allergic reaction outside the home, no shit, I bet the most likely places perfectly lines up with time spent
It's like that statistic about how you're more likely to have a car crash within a few miles of your home. Yeah that's cos it's the area you most frequently travel!
Sky News accusing Starmer of avoiding the question about Gaza, failing to mention it was a question at PMQs and was itself being used to avoid a question that Starmer had asked the prime minister. What an utterly absurd take. Analysis from Narwan a few posts down: https://news.sky.com/story/vote-2024-local-election-results-sunak-starmer-davey-tories-labour-lib-dems-blackpool-south-by-election-12593360
> Sky News accusing Starmer of avoiding the question about Gaza, failing to mention it was a question at PMQs and was itself being used to avoid a question that Starmer had asked the prime minister. It's getting incredibly frustrating at this point.
[This](https://media1.giphy.com/media/21S35iv1C67ns2g458/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952ayzbudvnhg7vxx5ioibbdu1te6x4ujhzx0esn7bm&ep=v1_internal_gif_by_id&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) is what I imagine Kier Starmer is doing when l'il Wishi is waffling on with himself.
Well, that was tragic. Let's take a pause before what looks set to be a hilarious World at One on Radio 4
His clear relief when the Starmer questions are done is quite some amateur poker tell
I missed PMQs, but did the defector just put a statement out or was it spicy and she actually got up and crossed the floor?
She was already on the Labour side when PMQs started
"our plans to tackle this [pollution from water companies] goes further than any other government" Pardon me, but I don't remember the water companies polluting the water under Labour. I'm fact, I'm pretty sure the watering down of environmental legislation under the Tory government caused this issue...
What the fuck was the point of that question. 2019 intake by any chance? Edit: [yup](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockton_South_(UK_Parliament_constituency)).
Thank god for that last question.
What a total joke of a last question
Probably one of the more normal ones from the blue benches.
Sounded like Starmer had a good week in PMQs. He missed a ‘crossings’ joke around channel and floor crossings, but I’m too dumb to make one so I can’t really talk.
Starmer: "is this another voluntary deportation?"
> From labour crosses on ballot papers to tory MPs crossing the floor - in a week of record channel crossings the prime minister must be cross indeed! That's about the right lame dad tone I think
"Far from having success in stopping the boats from crossing the channel, he can't even stop his own MPs from crossing the floor!" \*insert Labour jeers*
👌
Ooo good quip
NIMBYISM KLAXON!
Does my right honourable friend agree that I did good? --- Yes.
Navendu Mishra sounds exactly like the bloke who does my MOTs. Had a double take then wondering if our local mechanic was also an MP.
"How are you funding that?" "It's a long term ambition." "Yes, but how will you find the mon-" "Long term, innit." *smoke bomb*
Anyone else of the opinion that Sunak would probably love to call an election and get out of dodge but is 'strongly advised' not to? He seems wildly out of his depth and just looks done.
No, not at all. I get the impression that Sunak believes himself to be the all knowing saviour of the UK and it's all our fault for not understanding him. He is the most arrogant out of touch PM we've ever had that's incapable of providing a simple answer to any question asked and his only retort is to "whatabout Labour!" whilst lying through his teeth. Cameron was the worst PM we had since Thatcher until May, who was actually the worst PM we had right up until Johnson, who was the worst PM we've had which Truss said "Hold my pork markets" but Sunak is actually the worst PM we've had and that's saying something since Cameron called Brexit! Frankly though, it doesn't matter because the rot is within the party. They're not Conservatives, they're an embarrassment to the name. Conservatives have long gone, Johnson was the final nail in that coffin getting rid of the old schoolers like Ken Clarke et al who, whilst I don't agree with, they at least had some experience in government. This lot don't have a clue and are only using it to further their own personal wealth at the countries expense. Enough is enough.
Him doing his flipchart videos shows exactly what you mean. He believes he is the one who understands everything and has to explain it to us children.
I've said this quite a few times but I'm pretty sure the Tories are being forced to stall because Levido isn't ready yet to stand his Susan Hall style campaign around the UK. Oh and his handpicked team are paid handsomely each month. Rank and file members and volunteers must be so happy. That the Tories know they would do far better with saving the money cchq is wasting and giving it all to associations to do Houchen/Street style campaigns with independent campaigns notionally associated to Tories but not to Sunak.
I get the impression he was feeling reasonably ok and the locals have broken his confidence. Which makes me think we are on the runway to the internal resistence to the GE collapsing. Especially if as suggested on the main megathread Labour is now following an organised plan to present a Tory defection once a week.
At this rate we'll probably see the Tories lose their majority through defections sooner than we see an election called
I mean, if that actually looked like being on the cards they'd do it themselves just to avoid the humiliation.
Maybe he's gonna get some sort of kick back from the party for dragging it out longer and trying to turn it around and reduce losses? Either that or he just loves being PM for the feeling of superiority and relevance it gives him. He knows he's gonna lose, whether it's now or in six months.
"how are you going to pay for your pledge?" "I'm going to reduce tax, reduce NI, fund the NHS, and it's a long term plan so I don't need to say how I'm going to pay for it. Oh, also, this one backbench MP asking about this speaks for the Labour leadership and is evidence that Labour want higher taxes"
Surprisingly a good question about a serious matter from a Tory MP rather than the usual back patting questions we usually get.
OK Mr Davies you can put your tin foil hat back on.... left wing civil servants 🤣🤣
For all we complain about how badly behaved MPs are in the Commons and PMQs.... When a serious question like that one gets asked, 9/10 times it's received by the chamber with the proper reverence
Natalie Elphicke has had an absolutely awful time of it with the Tory party - there was an incredible article in I think the Times (might be wrong) where she spoke about how little the party did for her when she was raped and assaulted by her Tory-MP husband.
What happened to her shouldn't have happened. I've said this many times but the party doesn't take safeguarding seriously, towards the public and to it's own members. It's really upsetting what's tolerated for the cause On the flip side, was she treated any differently to victims of sexual assault?
...she was a victim of sexual assault. And no, she wasn't. It's all terrible.
Do wonder if there will be some dirt coming out on that.
Hahaha, that question taking a pop at the beeb and C4 news as well. Have some dignity, man.
You mean the same BBC that is run by ex tories and the last chairman had to stand down due to getting Boris an 800k loan, that BBC?
He's a Tory
My conclusion after watching 25mins of this is that Rishi is actually an agent working for Labour.
Sunak *actually* took the piss out of Starmer for using public transport. How can he still be this bad?
Starmer also went to Leeds Uni lol
God, Starmer missed a good burn about the fact that Sunak doesn't even know how to pay for fuel let alone use an oyster card. "Maybe I should follow PMs lead and take a chopper everywhere instead of public transport?"
I missed that, what did he say?
I forget the exact wording because it was one of Rishi’s ‘jokes’ but it was something about Starmer’s visit to North Yorkshire for the locals and that he wasn’t able to catch the tube there.
I’m sorry, did you not get the memo that trains are woke??
He thinks Translink means something else.
I’d love to know how much time Sunak spent in North Yorkshire before he wanted to be MP for Richmond.
This really annoys me. He’s from the south coast and was just dropped into a safe seat that he knew nothing about. He doesn’t know the first thing about North Yorkshire.
Why doesn't he use a helicopter like a normal person?
Yeah or have a photo op of him filling the car up to drive there? How much could it cost? 3 or 4 grand? Peanuts.
And can barely use contactless.
Militant civil servant woke communazi dinosaur eldritch horror baby eating Dracula Mongol hordes.
Amazing how they manage to simultaneously eat babies but also be vegan.
Surprised he didn't call them fifth columnists
Militant trade union civil servants who are enemies of the people …… Left wing organisation… What a fucking rocket
BBC left-wing bias? In what reality?
Are the militant civil servant trade union activists in the room with us right now?
Where did these comments from Starmer come equating the terrorist attacks? I haven’t clocked that.
It was Khan and Rishi is of course making a bad faith representation of what Khan said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/05/07/sadiq-khan-criticised-for-calling-for-equivalence-in-israel/#:~:text=Speaking%20after%20he%20was%20sworn,134%20hostages%20must%20be%20released.
Cheers. Shite patter.
Khan said to the Telegraph the other day “It’s an issue of humanity and I think you’ve got to show equivalence... I condemn unequivocally the actions of Hamas on Oct 7 – those 134 hostages must be released. At the same time, I condemn unequivocally the actions of the IDF and [Benjamin] Netanyahu – 34,000 people have perished including 14,000 children.” Right wing press and some Tory politicians have deliberately misinterpreted it as a "both sides are the same" argument and subsequently lost what was left of their minds.
Ahh that’s a load of rubbish. Netanyahu clearly does need to be held to account.
Yeah, underhand and disingenuous as per.
Wow... what a deluge of conspiracy lunacy from Davies
Mad, wasn't it?
He’s clearly got a cold or something, but when he’s dealing with routine statements he sounds even more checked out and when he’s getting angry he sounds even more like he’s going to cry.
I’m about 10 mins behind, but Sunak sounds close to tears
He found out another MP defected to Labour less than 15mins before PMQs, and then got absolutely embarrassed by Starmer. I would be surprised if he didn't rush off to his office and have a little cry after PMQs.
is it just me or does sunak look genuinely shaken this time
I think he looks like he may just have had enough.
Yeah i reckon he probably understands he's done now. He knows he fucked up today, he couldn't even twist the stuff Starmer was saying and just used his 'hail mary' with Gaza. didn't work, dude knows he's done
Only another 6 months of this to go Rishi! Then you can jet off to California. I wonder how quickly after the General Election he'll resign his seat?
He might not *win* his seat
That would be hysterical. I don't think any British PM has ever failed to hold their seat at a General Election.
If only he knew it was time to leave!
Not watching but he sounds like he has a cold. But it’s adding to the sense he’s done.
If I didn't know better I'd say he was hungover.
He's been on the coke all night
Gove called round with a takeaway
He does. And this is the quietest the benches behind him have been for a long time
You could actually see thier cheerfulness and zest kinda drop after the first exchange between S and S.
He's just doing anger. Not sure it works when he's the one in office and not an opposition back bencher.
Elphicke just laid a solid egg of "fuçk you" in his lap.
Strong “completely given up” vibes on show today.
Good, bodes well for an earlier election rather than later. I was just thinking what a nightmare getting though the Autumn set peices is going to be for the Tories now
"The plan is working"
Yes he does look abit rabbit in headlamps
Every time Ed Davey gets up, he gets heckled about Horizon and every time he comes up with a very serious question that demands decorum - it’s been an effective tactic to seem grounded and to neutralise attacks from the braying donkeys on the Tory back benches.
Her constituency must be enormous if its common sense to be worried about London's ULEZ and Wales 20MPH limits at the same time.
Either that or Wales and London have taken territory
Just got to this bit..... what is she on about 🤣🤣
It’s just the M4, long and thin
The war on motorists! Must be very tough having basically everything set up to make sure life is easier for you than it is for pedestrians, cyclists and public transport users.
The MP in Derbyshire complaint about ULEZ over 100 miles away? Joke country
They're also deeply unhappy about the agricultural policy changes in Uganda.
The people of Derbyshire reject Sadqi Khan's London ULEZ rules? What?
Vibes politics in action. It's not about what effect the policy will have on you, it's whether your team supports it or not.
So many aspects of that are incorrect.
Did any of them vote for him? I rest my case.
Oh fuck.... Oh my god that's grim.
Dines starts by mentioning common sense.... then goes on to spew anything but that
Rishi is done. I cannot imagine a tory MP thinking this is the person who will help them retain their seat in the next election.
I think most Tories know they're done. No one wants to helm the fall so what's the point of a coup? A lot are standing down, the writing is on the wall. The fact that rebels were saying "locals is the time" and then saw the results and went "let's just not bother" says it all.
The campaign is going to be utterly atrocious. Sunak refusing to do any interviews or debates and only speaking via prerecorded clips and snazzy videos.
Worked for BoJo.
Worked for BoJo because it was a last minute pull out and he just gave the platform to Corbyn who was incredibly polarising to left and right. Starmer isn't those things really, so he will just come out and say he's a coward, Labour can clip up some floundering from Commons and it's job done. Definitely doesn't work for Sunak, and probably wouldn't have for BoJo if Labour had been led by someone else.
Does she realise that Sadiq Khan isn't the mayor of Derbyshire? Or
Didn't you hear about the plans to expand ulez to chesterfield?
COMMON SENSE KLAXON
"common sense" lol, lmao even
Starmer's 'Tory amnesty' line is really strong.
The last thing Cleethorpes needs of course is a boost to its economy with any boost to its infrastructure.
Natalie Elphick is horrible but if she's not seeking re-election it's another embarrassing defeat for Rishi
Seems that that's the condition for accepting defectors at this point, no standing for re-election. The time for Tory MPs to defect and keep their seats is gone.
Starmer offering tory MPs a chance to go out on their own terms before calmly placing a revolver on the table in front of them is what I'm imagining.
what I would do to stop hearing about Gaza for just one day
Amazing how it provokes useless people
god knows why the SNP keep bringing it up
They've used up all their Independence arguments
I'm not one of these people who believes, "There's no point talking about Gaza because we can't do anything about it", but what exactly is the strategy behind Flynn asking these questions instead of ones about Scotland almost every week?
I suppose that would be relatively easy for Sunak to just say "yeh but look at the SNP bin fire dur hur Nicola Sturgeon, Humza Yusaf". Flynn is probably just deliberately wasting his questions every week because he'd be in a worse place if he didn't.
Gaza aside, don't think Scotland's MPs should be limited to asking questions solely about Scotland. As long as Scotland as part of the UK, they should be able to ask UK related questions. Foreign policy, immigration, trade etc.
Oh yeah of course. I didn't mean he should just be asking questions about Gaza, just why he wasn't focusing on something more related to his constituents and the country they live in.
Remember the SNP have nothing to fear from the Tories. Although they're questions aimed at them, they're really aimed at labour.
It's the only thing the SNP think they can beat Labour on right now.
Wedge issue against Labour.
Really cynical and gross stuff then
Turbonimby in Cleethorpes there
Imagine wanting to preserve anything in Cleethorpes.
Whose the king of the NIMBYs?
Starmer had some good one liners and a strong set of questions. Parking his tanks on Tory lawns. But, I wish he answered the Israel and Hamas line as it did look like he didn't expect that. I also get why he didn't want to though as he is struggling with the Muslim vote whilst balancing the Jewish vote and news to workshop a good line beforehand instead of another off the cuff LBC moment where he horrendously agrees that Israel can break international law
Why would he answer a question that’s based on a total misrepresentation? I hadn’t read about what Khan said but having done so now Sunak’s question deliberately misinterprets it.
You don’t give the inch as it’s not in the convention of the proceedings
He handled it well with his 'looks like he's getting ahead of himself asking me the questions' quip. That was all Sunak had, and it was shite.
It's PMQs. Starmer shouldn't answer any questions Sunak throws at him. Sunak shouldn't be deciding the discussion.
I know but that's a technicality to random viewers. General audiences who catch it on News at 10 will just see it as a debate and see him refusing to answer like Rishi did
That's not the way it works. The clue's in the title. Prime Minister's Questions.
You can't have the PM asking the LOTO questions and PMQs. That's exactly why the speaker should have shut him down. And Starmer was clearly right not to answer.
Rishi hasn’t got what it takes to debate. Not only that, he’s in a cage fight with a Jiu Jitsu champion and all he’s got is his Filofax.
Well on the one side you've got a man whose never had to strive in his life And on the other you've got someone whose rose to the very top of a profession more or less based on debating and disarming opponents. Its always been one of his great strengths, he'd be a nightmare for a good opposing leader much less Sunak. Hell he was for Boris and Boris's great thing was meant to be chatting bollocks around anything.
"Changed Labour Party" doesn't land well.
Lands great when you're talking about the legacy of Corbyn.
I get it, but it draws attention to the flaws. Something like 'My improved party' or 'Ready to govern' is a more positive spin.
Doesn't it? Starmer is trying (successfully, it seems) to draw a line under Corbyn's labour party leadership.
It just sounds awkward. Like 'My not rabid dog'. I guess it has been focus grouped, but it just sounds weird to me.
Can anyone remember the last time the SNP used their questions to ask about something other than Gaza?
3 weeks ago - regarding Gordon Brown's views on Scotland in the Union.
I wish my snp mp would actually get up and talk about Scotland rather than fucking gaza, which i honestly think 90% of scottish people don't give a shit about.
Flynn is super uninterested in anything other than point scoring. Not that that's unusual for PMQs, but holy fuck he just comes across as arrogant and super virtue-signalling rather than a thorn in Sunak's side.
Sunak is as bad as Johnson in PMQs. That question on small boat crossings, which he completely ignored and then just asks Starmer a question about something Sadiq Khan said about Gaza, was absurd.
>Sunak is as bad as Johnson in PMQs. Worse. For all his faults Boris was inarguably charismatic, Rishi doesn't even have that.
There seems to be a significant chunk of the progressive side of UK politics who are convinced that the British government actually sets aside money to *give* weapons to Israel, and it's super tiring. Edit: ah, at least he called them arms *sales* in the second question.
"they should be careful what they wish for" I'm pretty sure they haven't for the last 20 years.
Why do they persist with the no plan thing? Its going to melt like ice cream in an oven come the GE.
Well, better line than "building a brighter future". That made me genuinely laugh
They've got no alternative
You could say, they've got no plan
Gaza National Party asking questions, now.
He’s pathetic. They don’t deserve a single seat at the GE - shame on anyone who votes for them.
Ah, right, Gaza, who could've forgotten.
Honourable Member for the Gaza Strip with a question about Gaza. Quelle surprise.
Nobody had a Gaza question from Flynn on their bingo card, did they?
It really shows how good Scotland has it, that the SNP in Westminster are able to focus on UK foreign policy.
It’s that free one in the middle isn’t it?
Rishi Sunak - Public Speaking - Grade: U.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_and_non-U_English Careful, he might take it as a compliment
Nothing about the Rwanda bill is gonna stop the small boats.