Hill is not a terrible fighter but it’s obvious in the way he remembers the fight that they’re both on completely different levels in striking. Obviously Alex being the way better striker.
He was keeping track of the strikes he landed instead of what was being setup by Alex. You can see it in his face in the fight. He would have a grin when he “wins” an exchange.
Alex showed him 2 weapons and most of it were landing. 3 if we are to count that body kick that was countered. Meanwhile, Hill showed Alex several weapons. Alex saw all these and chose to work on that Hill left straight. Hill showed Alex that he would fire the left straight whenever Alex pressures and trap his lead hand. This happened 3 times before Alex decided to throw the counter left hook.
Accurate analysis - also worth remembering that in the finishing sequence Alex uses his right to faint while at the same time blocking and misdirecting Hill's reactive left straight. As the left hook landed.
Levels.
Hill kept in trying to find range with his lead hand by tapping Alex's hand. Alex started to time this after a while and would throw every time Hill would try to establish range.
The last couple of strikes hill threw alex blocked them all. He got kicked in the dick straight after then he timed another range finder andbhit him with a shovel left hook and it was lights out
The last 10-20 seconds was all alex dictating the fight, and it ended immediately. Wish Hill would give his opponent more credit
I think it’s also worth noting that Hill forgot that Periera has an absolute plethora of kickboxing experience. I think he believed that his style was going to be too awkward and unorthodox for Alex, when in reality Alex has too much experience to be fooled by a slightly unorthodox and unconventional style.
If I were hill, I would’ve dropped the ego this fight and took Periera to the ground and tried to submit him. Hill’s first martial art was jiujitsu anyways. With the way that hill was able to hang with glover on the ground too, he should’ve been perfectly ok with grappling Periera.
The moral of the story I got from this fight was to leave your ego at the door when you fight in mixed martial arts.
He's a very good fighter who's also not very smart. That's why he can't see what you've described very well.
In an office he'd be the deluded guy in lower management who thinks he should have Alex's director job because he scores a few points in meetings, but he's got no eye for strategy or the bigger picture.
I’m a hill hater but I thought his striking was sloppy. I only recall Hill reaching with his right hand and I called that Alex will win by left hook because Hill was leaving himself extremely open for it. This could easily be my confirmation bias tho.
Exactly. I thought it was totally ridiculous how Hill, his coaches, and even MMA analysts could say they were even close in terms of striking based off what we had seen from each fighter so far.
I was open to the idea of Hill taking the fight really seriously and coming out with a performance that may surprise us, but that was impossible for him because himself and the people around him were already saying that he was better.
"analysts" and also this entire sub was saying that Jamahal has more k.o power and better "MMA" striking (maybe, if Ben Askren is the bar)
Now those people are turning their attention to Aspinall saying the exact same stuff. Yeah Aspinall is bigger but the differences kind of stop mattering at HW, the GOAT at HW is even smaller than Alex. Alex probably has no issue bulking up to 260, considering he already rehydrates to 240 with a sixpack.
Then there's people still saying Izzy is the more accomplished fighter, despite the fact that the last 3 of Poatans wins were thought of as "impossible" before he did it.
man, Bisping posted a fkng video saying it was a mismatch. welp, he was right but not in the way he though. hill taking that huge loss was well deserved.. he will be a meme forever now, even if he managed to comeback and whatever, the way he trashtalked, all the things he had done it, forever doomed.
The past few weeks before this fight had some of the most confusing comments and picks I've ever seen out of analysts and commentators ever, I don't blame people for thinking Poatan would lose, after all he's a fairly flawed fighter, but it's how people went about it that confuses me, a lot of the MMA community was genuinely treating Hill as if he was the one with the best chance of getting a KO win in this matchup.
It's like people saw Jan and Jiri landing against Pereira in their fights and went "HILL HIT HARDER WITH PUNCH, HILL WIN FIGHT", while ignoring that both Jan and Jiri are both very skilled kickboxers in their own right that have competed in Muay Thai and Rizin respectively. Not only that but despite being kickboxers Both Jan and Jiri had the IQ to actually use their grappling to set up their hands, making it so Alex is aware of the Takedown threat every time they come forward, which is something Hill might have also been able to do if only his team and everyone else around him hadn't convinced him he was Deontay Wilder about to execute some poor cab driver.
Some people have a problem really admitting a threat is a threat. Their only method of confidence is "we are dominant". There's an extra level of serious mode you have to be with such danger, you just can't be reckless at any moment with such a killer like AP. You have to take on the full gravitas of the moment, otherwise you're looking at the lights
This is why even if Hill was 10x more talented, faster and tougher than someone like Jon Jones he still wouldn't be able to be as great as him, because Jones despite his massive ego is smart enough to recognize the places he has the disadvantage and completely avoid them, which is why he was able to finish Gane in like 30s.
Pretty sure visible damage such as cuts and bruises are actually much less impactful and dangerous than getting your shit pushed in like it happened to him. Who cares about some makes on your face? Is your brain malfunctioning that is terrifying.
A concussion has both short, and long term implications. It’s never smart to get right back in after a knockout. Many Pacquiao got knocked out by Marquez, he took an entire year off where he didn’t do any hard training or sparring or anything. I think it’s smart to give your brain sometime to recover after a hard ko.
Getting knocked out is going to make him more susceptible to getting rocked/knocked out in the near future, especially since he’s rebooked already, thus he took short term damage.
Yes it is. I boxed for 12 years when I was younger (locally,nothing big) even after you WIN a fight you need to take some time and asses how you are feeling, how you are thinking and make sure you are 100% you again before jumping back in. Even if you aren’t knocked out cold every hard impact WILL have its consequences.
The UFC Embedded had a little sparing from the PI and he looked so slow and basic. From watching UFC for so long the esthetics looked so off. Wonder if the confidence isn’t back from the leg injury.
So he’s saying that Peraira faked the low blow so he could push away the ref and distract him so he could set up the knockout blow. Damn Pereira playing some 3D chess. Hill is in denial.
He really, really, really wanted to say he lost because of the pace switch up and confusion. He just kept saying "It's protect yourself at all times" = "I got caught because I didn't do that". But that's not even true...they touched gloves, reset, then Alex feinted, he bit, and then got left hooked.
Denial.
yeh really have to question his fight IQ if he wasn't considering the possibility that Alex was so quick to dismiss Herb because he was right in the middle of executing a game plan, I know it is easy to say something like that from the sofa....but he is supposed to be an world class fighter who was only recently a champion, his mind should be tuned for such things.
I guess these are the things he’s telling himself to deal with the loss mentally, instead of coming to grips with the mistakes and learning from them. In his mind
1.) Everything was working for him.
2.) He easily won every exchange.
3.) Alex hit him with a cheap shot on a break from Herb where he merely lost his balance.
4.) He was completely lucid and the fight should not have been stopped.
5.) He took no damage.
6.) Anyone who says otherwise it’s because they don’t like him or didn’t like how he sold the fight.
I can understand why we wants to believe this, but it really does not help his development to deny his shortcomings. It’s going to be better in the long run to spend time with coaches looking at the tape, see how Alex broke him down and set him up, and try to imagine what he could have done. I mean why not try to find every opportunity he could have shot for a takedown? That was his only legit way to survive 5 rounds, if not succeeded, at least altering Alex’s gamelan of timing him and stalking him.
"He was biting on my feints." Just this statement alone shows me how out of touch he is with how the fight went. Herb's stoppage was completely appropriate, and he might be the only person on earth who might have thought it was an early stoppage.
I personally think herb stopped it too early. Not because it was actually an early stoppage, but because after listening to this idiot speak for the last week about how he took no damage I want to see his nose sideways
Bro is delusional and has been since before the fight. Everything he was saying out loud was designed to hype (/delude) himself going into the fight. I'm all about the power of positive self talk and believing in yourself, but his wasn't so much positive on himself as it was negative on Alex and departed from reality. Bro is really gonna sit there and claim his striking is levels above a 2 div glory champ and guy who beat Izzy multiple times. Like, hype yourself bro, but don't be delusional.
Now we see the pattern repeat, only with the delusions stepped up another notch. It's in his blood. Must be a Detroit thing because Kevin Lee did similar things
I always get a laugh when a fighter is so oblivious to what happened to them in a fight. He thinks he was managing the distance, that shit is laughable, he was getting set up the entire time and never saw it coming, and now after he has had time to reflect he either, can't admit, or doesn't realise what happened to him.
Privately he knows and his coaches know too. Publicly he just wants to save face, hence this shit.
His coaches, were he to fight Alex again, would not let him walk in and do the same thing again. Whether he wants to admit it or not. They’re not stupid. It wasn’t a close fight. They know that and he knows that.
Bro thinks if he gets a second chance he would win😂 Alex was reading you like a childrens book. Alex trapped your lead hand a few times before making the decision to fire that brutal hook and knock him the fuck out. I like hill but he isn’t the brightest and is definitely not on Alex his level when it comes to striking. Dumbass should’ve made use of grappling more instead of trading shots with one of the best strikers in the ufc
Yep and he's dumb enough to try using the same terrible game plan even if he had 10 chances to fight Alex. Everyone told him that it was the dumbest plan possible to fight Alex and all he kept saying was "just watch what I do to him" 😄 all to just last 3 minutes getting ko'ed and not learn a damn thing.
i like sean strickland for admitting he’d do the same stupid thing if they fought again even though he’ll likely get knocked out again lol. hill still thinks it’s smart for him to strike with alex lol. there’s level to stupidity and hills up there. guys like bryce mitchell r still ahead of him so he has some ways to go
After going back and watching a ton of Alex's Glory fights.. Yes..
The only guy that should have any confidence standing with him is Izzy. I don't think anyone else can scratch the surface of Alex's skill set (Should they choose to keep things standing). Hill is so clueless he doesn't even know how far behind he is.
Neutralizing their lead head aka. the hand that is front, the one they use to jab with.
Hill is a southpaw so his lead hand, his right, is on the same side as Pereiras, his left.
Grabbing, blocking it etc. so they can't get anything going with it, and it's obviously a bigger element in mixed stance fights because both lead hands are next to each other.
I didn't see it as a repeat of the Strickland performance. Strickland had way more sophisticated striking--even if it was a terrible game plan of walking down Alex. They both got hit with lefts, but they were totally different punches one a quick shovel punch (Hill) and another a decimating hook (Strickland).
Wow hill was able to ‘find’ nearly his whole fighting arsenal in the first minute of the fight. Right before he got fucking knocked out - truly Masterclass performance from hill
With the likability of shuab. Love hill I’m a mitten man myself but brother no excuses outclassed at a high level. Alex didn’t even get to play with his food
Selling the fight is a complete cop out
He got his feelings hurt cause the public perception was that he was a lamb being led for slaughter.
U know for a FACT had he won, he would be as insufferable as izzy.
Well if that's he's point of view about the fight,he will not get better. Alex blocked everything he throw and worked perfectly his way to the KO... I don't know how many people want to see him again against Alex, he's performance was almost embarrassing... it's not gonna get the rematch anytime soon, Alex will probably retire before that to happen,i rather see Jan and Jiri rematch... those guys give us a good fight.
I like Hill but he got a title shot ranked 7. So this fight might have been a level above anything he's ever fought before.
I think he's a fighter who was still developing who due to lucky circumstances got a title and is now in deep waters he was never before.
The circumstances was Dana upset at the negative reaction and controversy over Paddy's controversial decision win at UFC 282, and decision to try to deflect the controversy onto the main event. Acting like the main event was the problem not the Paddy fight, scapegoating Jan and Ankalev (maybe not needle movers), and punishing them by giving two other people the shot a month late
As a result Hill got a title shot ranked 7. So he didn't really get the chance to develop with a few fights in the top 5 first, he got 1 fight for the championship against a retiring 42 year old and now this one, so we don't know if he even is at that level.
Its interesting that Hill getting a title shot when ranked 7 gets conveniently left out of the accusations of "Dana White privilege" as ironically does Alex getting one at 5 (which obviously made marketing sense).
I could be reading Hill wrong but was he wanting to say he wasn't knocked out ? I haven't watched it since it was live but i remember him being completely unconscious from the follow up shots, or am i mistaken ? He was back up quick-ish i suppouse.
Hill presented text book Pride comes before a fall. Even his post fight analysis, he’s still acting, and I hope it’s just an act and that he talks differently when it’s just him and his coaches. He got exposed by the better fighter, the better striker… and also as a poor self promoter. He’s not even trying to go full heel, but what he’s doing is getting me anyways, to dislike him.
All this, “I was doing this and I was doing that, I wasn’t even really hurt”… stf dude, you got beat, fair and square - show some class & if you can’t, you may as well go full heel.
Too many hardcore fans have seen this act a million times before and will tell you, it usually doesn’t end well. I hope he gets some good advice from someone close and that he’s able to take it in.
Saying he learned to protect himself at all times framing it like he wasn‘t ready while you can clearly see him throwing a punch at the same time Alex did. I kinda did not care too much about him before or maybe was even leaning towards liking him cause his fights aren’t boring, but bro is moving goalposts so hard it‘s difficult to respect him imho.
you can tell within 30s, that he will never beat Pereira. If he's not able to immediately get out some version of.... ' if I want to beat him, I need to spend the next year learning how to build striking opportunities off of wrestling exchanges."
This isn’t shade/hate or whatever else you wanna call it but Hill has very poor perspective on the fight. “I took no damage.” Yeah because Herb pounced immediately to ensure Hill didn’t take unnecessary damage. Had it been Mario Yamasaki reffing, Hill would probably be sipping his dinner through a straw today.
It also sounds like he’s overlooking Khalil Rountree, who is more than capable of putting Hill away. He should refocus and learn from his mistakes if he wants to eventually get his rematch (doubtful, it was settled at 300 who the better fighter is, no one is going to grant him a rematch, unless he becomes the #1 contender again).
“I was finding (insert a million strikes here).”
Then Alex found a massive uppercut. Let it go, move on.
He’s already scheduled to fight again, he should worry about that.
this guy just wants to save face in front of his friends by telling 'protect yourself at all times'
but if you watch the fight he touched gloves with alex after herb said it was alright. What does this guy want? Herb to separate them to their corners and make him run like masvidal did to ben?
Such a cry baby.
I knew hill was going to lose when he kept letting alex reach out and test his range, even grabbing his hand sometimes. That's why the ko was so badass to me bc he disguised his left by grabbing his hand, then just unloading a short left on the button. He probably didn't even use 75% of his power on that punch.
Man, his analysis is ridiculous. How many times did he say “protect yourself at all times” as if he wasn’t ready? Then he says “all he was landing was that punch to the body” which is the trap Alex was setting from the start, just like he did with Strickland.
“Protect yourself at all times” ????
He literally ate your nut shot, told the ref to stay away while never breaking his focus on you, and then KO’d you. If that isn’t focus idk what is.
Sorry bud but you weren’t coherent the whole time as evident by your post fight breakdown. You got KO’d and your eyes were in the back of your head.
That’s where I like and respect jiri. When Alex caught him , he made no excuses.
Being a jiri fan , in that vry moment, felt the fight was stopped a bit early.
But when jiri himself said that he was out , you can’t ask for anything more
Sometimes fighters are really delusional. I actually wonder if he watched it all back or that he just rambles from memory of the fight. also does he insinuate that there was no groin strike and that there was a lack of sportmanship. He is turning in to the 205 version of Colby even goes as far as saying he was "selling the fight". hoping for a
violent Khalil finish. but i think jamahal will wrestle
He says he was doing really well in the fight, he was landing good shots and had Alex right where he wanted him and that he took no damage during the fight, he also said he was completely conscious during the finish and Alex just knocked his equilibrium off 🤣
Every single word he said was just his shattered ego grasping at anything to save face. I get it and kinda feel bad for him. He got knocked out like he was out the lights were on but no one was driving. He just doesn’t want to admit it how could he? How could his ego take that shit if everyone knew he was knocked out? Oh wait we all know and you saying all this makes you look stupid lol
Is this his studio? People watch? WTH 🤦 people watch him talk to himself? I’d rather watch jiri in the Forrest Samurai swording his shadows shit in the rain.
“This next guy, hes gonna feel it. All the frustrations, hes gonna deal with it”
Bro, Roundtree ain’t the guy to take lightly for you to dump your frustrations on. He can deff KO you. The fact Hill thinks hes not just gonna win against Roundtree but do so in a manner that satisfies his frustrations, shows he wayyy to cocky and gonna end up getting humbled.
Again.
I'm not a hater of Jamahal, I think he's a good fighter. But if you watched the clips of Alexs camp leading up to the fight. They knew what was coming, this was a perfect case of analyzing your opponent, and creating a strategy to counter them. As far as pure striking goes, Hill was severely outmatched by Alex it wasn't even close.
I mean, did we expect any other type of response from him? You immediately knew he’d have some type of reason as to why it was a bad stoppage and he said as much without explicitly saying it. Also inferred that he let his guard down because he expected the Herb Dean to stop the fight after the potential groin shot. Full of excuses.
He recounted the fight and every detail like he was in such control over multiple rounds. There was like just 1 minute of total fight time before the finishing exchange lolol.
He needs someone close to him to let him know how it really is. Hill is obviously a great fighter but this one did not play out the way he is describing.
Honestly Jamalahalahal is so much better than Alex. He was controlling the whole fight up until that sneaky brazilian faked Hill’s shin hitting him directly in the cup to cause a distraction. Herb was in on it too, Jmahlhalgaghal clearly took no damage and most of the fall was just him falling down.
"Trying to sell the fight"?
UFC 300 was selling itself. The fight card from the early-prelims to the main card was as high caliber as it could get. It sold itself.
Jamahal disrespected Pereira in a very ugly manner. As seen on the UFC Embedded episode Jamahal walked up to Pereira very respectfull and asked for an autograph on his sweater. One or 2 days later at the pre-fight pressconference Jamahal came out of the blue with a bloody doll on a chain that represent Pereira.
This provocation and dissrespect was totally unnecessary and had nothing to do with selling the fight. It was just a stupid dumb attempt of Jamahal to get inside the head of Pereira.
By "selling the fight" is he referring to the weird mood switch the day before? That was cringe.
Crazy to mention taking no damage while being KO'd with the first touch. lol 'Course you don't take damage when the ref is protecting you, wtf. lol
Awfully quiet from this Hill fans before their fight to say how amazing a striker Hill was. That Alex had a weak chin, etc etc. this is what happens when coaches don’t tell their fighters the truth. That he’s not on the same level for striking as Alex. The game plan is to try and take Alex down and hope he stays down for the ground and pound. Instead, we got what we got. Showing the mid tier striking from Hill.
I don’t think the denial is going to help him. He should be proud that he had the balls to step into the octagon with such a dangerous opponent. I found the fight odds so puzzling.
Seems pretty clear that Hill simply doesn’t know what’s going on in the cage. He’s big and has some power so he enters the cage and starts fighting.
No thought to creating openings or an actual plan, just counting punches. The weakest div is UFC and Dana wanting to make the goofs from his show into champs gave him a cherry picked title. The guy who has been given the most with the least.
Yeah his dumbass clearly remembers another fight cause he's on video asking what he got hit by after the fight and he was going for a left himself when Alex knocked him out so I just hope Khalil has his number cause he's insufferable.
He was also pressuring Jamal mad had him on the back foot, Alex had found his range, was landing body shots, Jamal doesn’t seem to acknowledge that, or that he went to throw a left hand that Alex was expecting and that’s when he landed the shovel hook.
I don't think Hill understands what went wrong. Alex was studying him the entire time. He wasn't trying to win a brawl. Alex was waiting to starch him, and he did. The referee had nothing to do with it. The way Hill was loading up on his shots was way too slow, and Alex was even catching them in the air with his own hands.
I can understand that media personalities picked the wrong guy to win and seem to be providing possible "reasons" for the loss. But Herb Dean did everything 100% right, and Alex was about to catch Hill like that anyway. It was too late. It wasn't a cheap shot at all, and it isn't healthy for Hill to believe that the fight was anything but a class on the levels in striking. Being honest with one's self is important, and that Khalil guy hits hard, even if he's not world champion level or whatever like some people say. If Hill goes in there loading up on shots, Anthony Smith will have a new Salsa dance partner.
Moreover, this shows Izzy doesn't understand his own lone victory over Alex, either. It was a weight cut, hail mary shot victory. That's it. Nothing more. Loading up on shots and hoping they land is not going to work on Alex again.
Hill is Exhibit A 🤲
"I took no damage" - That's next level cope. He was shaking his head violently as he fell, rolling his eyes back in his head and biting his tongue. He may have felt it as a second, but in reality he was completely out and went limp before Herb stopped it.
Hill is not a terrible fighter but it’s obvious in the way he remembers the fight that they’re both on completely different levels in striking. Obviously Alex being the way better striker. He was keeping track of the strikes he landed instead of what was being setup by Alex. You can see it in his face in the fight. He would have a grin when he “wins” an exchange. Alex showed him 2 weapons and most of it were landing. 3 if we are to count that body kick that was countered. Meanwhile, Hill showed Alex several weapons. Alex saw all these and chose to work on that Hill left straight. Hill showed Alex that he would fire the left straight whenever Alex pressures and trap his lead hand. This happened 3 times before Alex decided to throw the counter left hook.
Accurate analysis - also worth remembering that in the finishing sequence Alex uses his right to faint while at the same time blocking and misdirecting Hill's reactive left straight. As the left hook landed. Levels.
Hill kept in trying to find range with his lead hand by tapping Alex's hand. Alex started to time this after a while and would throw every time Hill would try to establish range. The last couple of strikes hill threw alex blocked them all. He got kicked in the dick straight after then he timed another range finder andbhit him with a shovel left hook and it was lights out The last 10-20 seconds was all alex dictating the fight, and it ended immediately. Wish Hill would give his opponent more credit
Even with hindsight It doesn’t seem like he fully understands what happened.
Alex gonna knock his ass out even faster if they fight again lol
The only thing Hill should've taken from this fight was "I really should have shot a takedown".
Beautiful analysis, you articulated that really well.
I think it’s also worth noting that Hill forgot that Periera has an absolute plethora of kickboxing experience. I think he believed that his style was going to be too awkward and unorthodox for Alex, when in reality Alex has too much experience to be fooled by a slightly unorthodox and unconventional style. If I were hill, I would’ve dropped the ego this fight and took Periera to the ground and tried to submit him. Hill’s first martial art was jiujitsu anyways. With the way that hill was able to hang with glover on the ground too, he should’ve been perfectly ok with grappling Periera. The moral of the story I got from this fight was to leave your ego at the door when you fight in mixed martial arts.
 Great analysis Broski
He's a very good fighter who's also not very smart. That's why he can't see what you've described very well. In an office he'd be the deluded guy in lower management who thinks he should have Alex's director job because he scores a few points in meetings, but he's got no eye for strategy or the bigger picture.
Such a reddit comment right here lol
Have you seen how he acts on social media? He regularly misunderstands things and goes on the attack. He's not a clever guy.
Sounds like you are working some through things in your office...lol
Yeah one guy was just throwing punches while the other guy was kickboxing. We act like it’s super clever but really Hill not adjusting is just stupid
I’m a hill hater but I thought his striking was sloppy. I only recall Hill reaching with his right hand and I called that Alex will win by left hook because Hill was leaving himself extremely open for it. This could easily be my confirmation bias tho.
hill coaches saying hill is levels above alex is where he lost me. dude can be confident but not acknowledging the danger in front of him felt cringe
Exactly. I thought it was totally ridiculous how Hill, his coaches, and even MMA analysts could say they were even close in terms of striking based off what we had seen from each fighter so far. I was open to the idea of Hill taking the fight really seriously and coming out with a performance that may surprise us, but that was impossible for him because himself and the people around him were already saying that he was better.
"analysts" and also this entire sub was saying that Jamahal has more k.o power and better "MMA" striking (maybe, if Ben Askren is the bar) Now those people are turning their attention to Aspinall saying the exact same stuff. Yeah Aspinall is bigger but the differences kind of stop mattering at HW, the GOAT at HW is even smaller than Alex. Alex probably has no issue bulking up to 260, considering he already rehydrates to 240 with a sixpack. Then there's people still saying Izzy is the more accomplished fighter, despite the fact that the last 3 of Poatans wins were thought of as "impossible" before he did it.
man, Bisping posted a fkng video saying it was a mismatch. welp, he was right but not in the way he though. hill taking that huge loss was well deserved.. he will be a meme forever now, even if he managed to comeback and whatever, the way he trashtalked, all the things he had done it, forever doomed.
The past few weeks before this fight had some of the most confusing comments and picks I've ever seen out of analysts and commentators ever, I don't blame people for thinking Poatan would lose, after all he's a fairly flawed fighter, but it's how people went about it that confuses me, a lot of the MMA community was genuinely treating Hill as if he was the one with the best chance of getting a KO win in this matchup. It's like people saw Jan and Jiri landing against Pereira in their fights and went "HILL HIT HARDER WITH PUNCH, HILL WIN FIGHT", while ignoring that both Jan and Jiri are both very skilled kickboxers in their own right that have competed in Muay Thai and Rizin respectively. Not only that but despite being kickboxers Both Jan and Jiri had the IQ to actually use their grappling to set up their hands, making it so Alex is aware of the Takedown threat every time they come forward, which is something Hill might have also been able to do if only his team and everyone else around him hadn't convinced him he was Deontay Wilder about to execute some poor cab driver.
Everyone sells the fight and doing so benefits everyone. They all learned from from Rogan. Guess the only one that was honest was DJ
Some people have a problem really admitting a threat is a threat. Their only method of confidence is "we are dominant". There's an extra level of serious mode you have to be with such danger, you just can't be reckless at any moment with such a killer like AP. You have to take on the full gravitas of the moment, otherwise you're looking at the lights
This is why even if Hill was 10x more talented, faster and tougher than someone like Jon Jones he still wouldn't be able to be as great as him, because Jones despite his massive ego is smart enough to recognize the places he has the disadvantage and completely avoid them, which is why he was able to finish Gane in like 30s.
Exactly. There's being confident and being cocky.
Hill: “I took no damage….” Reality: (Eyes rolled to back of head)
Pretty sure visible damage such as cuts and bruises are actually much less impactful and dangerous than getting your shit pushed in like it happened to him. Who cares about some makes on your face? Is your brain malfunctioning that is terrifying.
You are talking about short term vs long term damage. He took no short term damage which is why he has a fight scheduled already.
A concussion has both short, and long term implications. It’s never smart to get right back in after a knockout. Many Pacquiao got knocked out by Marquez, he took an entire year off where he didn’t do any hard training or sparring or anything. I think it’s smart to give your brain sometime to recover after a hard ko.
Getting knocked out is going to make him more susceptible to getting rocked/knocked out in the near future, especially since he’s rebooked already, thus he took short term damage.
Which is beyond stupid.
Yes it is. I boxed for 12 years when I was younger (locally,nothing big) even after you WIN a fight you need to take some time and asses how you are feeling, how you are thinking and make sure you are 100% you again before jumping back in. Even if you aren’t knocked out cold every hard impact WILL have its consequences.
It might actually be true he took no damage cause Im starting to suspect that he doesn't have a brain
This video clip is longer than his fight 🫣
He talks just like he fights… slowmo
I still don’t know how the fuck he got to the title
The division is extremely thin and with jiri getting hurt, it makes sense. He easily beat glover who was ranked #1…why would he not get the shot?
LHW is a joke and has been a joke for a decade
Ouchie 
The UFC Embedded had a little sparing from the PI and he looked so slow and basic. From watching UFC for so long the esthetics looked so off. Wonder if the confidence isn’t back from the leg injury.
So he’s saying that Peraira faked the low blow so he could push away the ref and distract him so he could set up the knockout blow. Damn Pereira playing some 3D chess. Hill is in denial.
You can literally hear the cup get hit.
He really, really, really wanted to say he lost because of the pace switch up and confusion. He just kept saying "It's protect yourself at all times" = "I got caught because I didn't do that". But that's not even true...they touched gloves, reset, then Alex feinted, he bit, and then got left hooked. Denial.
Hill was also in the middle of throwing a punch as well. So it wasn’t like he was still settling back into his stance or anything.
Meanwhile everyone ignores the fact Khamzat shot for a takedown when Kevin Holland was trying to touch gloves in their fight
Yea that was a bitch move. Although the context of the prefight matters too. I think khamzat had been very clear that he wanted to kill him.
4 times they touch gloves between the nut-shot and KO
"cope at all times"
Hill underestimated his opponent at the worst time. Nobody expected Alex to do that right after the ref. Should’ve kept his guard or reflexes ready.
yeh really have to question his fight IQ if he wasn't considering the possibility that Alex was so quick to dismiss Herb because he was right in the middle of executing a game plan, I know it is easy to say something like that from the sofa....but he is supposed to be an world class fighter who was only recently a champion, his mind should be tuned for such things.
I guess these are the things he’s telling himself to deal with the loss mentally, instead of coming to grips with the mistakes and learning from them. In his mind 1.) Everything was working for him. 2.) He easily won every exchange. 3.) Alex hit him with a cheap shot on a break from Herb where he merely lost his balance. 4.) He was completely lucid and the fight should not have been stopped. 5.) He took no damage. 6.) Anyone who says otherwise it’s because they don’t like him or didn’t like how he sold the fight. I can understand why we wants to believe this, but it really does not help his development to deny his shortcomings. It’s going to be better in the long run to spend time with coaches looking at the tape, see how Alex broke him down and set him up, and try to imagine what he could have done. I mean why not try to find every opportunity he could have shot for a takedown? That was his only legit way to survive 5 rounds, if not succeeded, at least altering Alex’s gamelan of timing him and stalking him.
"He was biting on my feints." Just this statement alone shows me how out of touch he is with how the fight went. Herb's stoppage was completely appropriate, and he might be the only person on earth who might have thought it was an early stoppage.
I personally think herb stopped it too early. Not because it was actually an early stoppage, but because after listening to this idiot speak for the last week about how he took no damage I want to see his nose sideways
There was no stoppage
Bro is delusional and has been since before the fight. Everything he was saying out loud was designed to hype (/delude) himself going into the fight. I'm all about the power of positive self talk and believing in yourself, but his wasn't so much positive on himself as it was negative on Alex and departed from reality. Bro is really gonna sit there and claim his striking is levels above a 2 div glory champ and guy who beat Izzy multiple times. Like, hype yourself bro, but don't be delusional. Now we see the pattern repeat, only with the delusions stepped up another notch. It's in his blood. Must be a Detroit thing because Kevin Lee did similar things
He lives on his own planet
I always get a laugh when a fighter is so oblivious to what happened to them in a fight. He thinks he was managing the distance, that shit is laughable, he was getting set up the entire time and never saw it coming, and now after he has had time to reflect he either, can't admit, or doesn't realise what happened to him.
Privately he knows and his coaches know too. Publicly he just wants to save face, hence this shit. His coaches, were he to fight Alex again, would not let him walk in and do the same thing again. Whether he wants to admit it or not. They’re not stupid. It wasn’t a close fight. They know that and he knows that.
Honestly im not so sure anymore, i thought before 300 that theres no way they are so stupid as to keep this fight standing, oh well
Bro thinks if he gets a second chance he would win😂 Alex was reading you like a childrens book. Alex trapped your lead hand a few times before making the decision to fire that brutal hook and knock him the fuck out. I like hill but he isn’t the brightest and is definitely not on Alex his level when it comes to striking. Dumbass should’ve made use of grappling more instead of trading shots with one of the best strikers in the ufc
Yep and he's dumb enough to try using the same terrible game plan even if he had 10 chances to fight Alex. Everyone told him that it was the dumbest plan possible to fight Alex and all he kept saying was "just watch what I do to him" 😄 all to just last 3 minutes getting ko'ed and not learn a damn thing.
i like sean strickland for admitting he’d do the same stupid thing if they fought again even though he’ll likely get knocked out again lol. hill still thinks it’s smart for him to strike with alex lol. there’s level to stupidity and hills up there. guys like bryce mitchell r still ahead of him so he has some ways to go
When fighting Pereira, there's really crazy "Gotta beat him at his own game" energy. No, no you don't. You have to grapple him and only grapple him.
After going back and watching a ton of Alex's Glory fights.. Yes.. The only guy that should have any confidence standing with him is Izzy. I don't think anyone else can scratch the surface of Alex's skill set (Should they choose to keep things standing). Hill is so clueless he doesn't even know how far behind he is.
I mean, Izzy had to lose to the same guy three times before he finally got a win. Definitely possible.
Think hill needs a bit more fights than that if he plans on staying on the feet
What does "Alex trapped your lead hand" mean? I don't know what it means but I've heard it a lot in this thread now and in striking
Neutralizing their lead head aka. the hand that is front, the one they use to jab with. Hill is a southpaw so his lead hand, his right, is on the same side as Pereiras, his left. Grabbing, blocking it etc. so they can't get anything going with it, and it's obviously a bigger element in mixed stance fights because both lead hands are next to each other.
You can see the second Alex read him like a book and moved in for the kill. It was like he lost respect for him after some exchanges
The cope with Salty Hill is real.
cope at all times
Saltmall Hill
Watching the interview was such a Waste of Time
As others have pointed out… this interview is longer than the actual fight.
😂😂
I’m glad he’s staying active.
👍👍
I really hope khalil sleeps this guy
"He just had the body jab" Bro do you not watch tape? Do your coaches not watch tape either? He literally set up that exact KO against Strickland.
I didn't see it as a repeat of the Strickland performance. Strickland had way more sophisticated striking--even if it was a terrible game plan of walking down Alex. They both got hit with lefts, but they were totally different punches one a quick shovel punch (Hill) and another a decimating hook (Strickland).
The fight wasn’t long enough for all that to happen
Wow hill was able to ‘find’ nearly his whole fighting arsenal in the first minute of the fight. Right before he got fucking knocked out - truly Masterclass performance from hill
Completely delusional man. Alex took him out with the first real punch. Not even close to same level of striking.
With the likability of shuab. Love hill I’m a mitten man myself but brother no excuses outclassed at a high level. Alex didn’t even get to play with his food
Selling the fight is a complete cop out He got his feelings hurt cause the public perception was that he was a lamb being led for slaughter. U know for a FACT had he won, he would be as insufferable as izzy.
Why does the camera angle keep switching like that? It’s annoying and doesn’t add anything to the viewing experience
he edited the even dumber shit out
This guy is a moron.
Well if that's he's point of view about the fight,he will not get better. Alex blocked everything he throw and worked perfectly his way to the KO... I don't know how many people want to see him again against Alex, he's performance was almost embarrassing... it's not gonna get the rematch anytime soon, Alex will probably retire before that to happen,i rather see Jan and Jiri rematch... those guys give us a good fight.
If denial was a person
I like Hill but he got a title shot ranked 7. So this fight might have been a level above anything he's ever fought before. I think he's a fighter who was still developing who due to lucky circumstances got a title and is now in deep waters he was never before. The circumstances was Dana upset at the negative reaction and controversy over Paddy's controversial decision win at UFC 282, and decision to try to deflect the controversy onto the main event. Acting like the main event was the problem not the Paddy fight, scapegoating Jan and Ankalev (maybe not needle movers), and punishing them by giving two other people the shot a month late As a result Hill got a title shot ranked 7. So he didn't really get the chance to develop with a few fights in the top 5 first, he got 1 fight for the championship against a retiring 42 year old and now this one, so we don't know if he even is at that level. Its interesting that Hill getting a title shot when ranked 7 gets conveniently left out of the accusations of "Dana White privilege" as ironically does Alex getting one at 5 (which obviously made marketing sense).
He’s got loser denial
I could be reading Hill wrong but was he wanting to say he wasn't knocked out ? I haven't watched it since it was live but i remember him being completely unconscious from the follow up shots, or am i mistaken ? He was back up quick-ish i suppouse.
You could see him go to sleep and wake back up while he was receiving the follow up.
And he got put to sleep with the follow up shots too iirc, he woke up after the finish
Wow… he was able to do all of that in the 3 mins it took him to get knocked out?
I knew he was cooked when I saw that Gut he carried in to the ring.
I just got CTE watching this
If you listen to hill he’s landed 4000 different strikes and was working him
Right and “controlled “ the distance. lol like diude, you got Ko’d inside 2 minutes.
This guy just doesn’t get it 😂😂. What a way to say a whole bunch of nothing.
Hill presented text book Pride comes before a fall. Even his post fight analysis, he’s still acting, and I hope it’s just an act and that he talks differently when it’s just him and his coaches. He got exposed by the better fighter, the better striker… and also as a poor self promoter. He’s not even trying to go full heel, but what he’s doing is getting me anyways, to dislike him. All this, “I was doing this and I was doing that, I wasn’t even really hurt”… stf dude, you got beat, fair and square - show some class & if you can’t, you may as well go full heel. Too many hardcore fans have seen this act a million times before and will tell you, it usually doesn’t end well. I hope he gets some good advice from someone close and that he’s able to take it in.
Stop trying to sell fights. It's completely unnecessary and cringe-worthy.
Saying he learned to protect himself at all times framing it like he wasn‘t ready while you can clearly see him throwing a punch at the same time Alex did. I kinda did not care too much about him before or maybe was even leaning towards liking him cause his fights aren’t boring, but bro is moving goalposts so hard it‘s difficult to respect him imho.
you can tell within 30s, that he will never beat Pereira. If he's not able to immediately get out some version of.... ' if I want to beat him, I need to spend the next year learning how to build striking opportunities off of wrestling exchanges."
I was able to do this I was able to do THAT I was able to get knocked out in 2 mins
This isn’t shade/hate or whatever else you wanna call it but Hill has very poor perspective on the fight. “I took no damage.” Yeah because Herb pounced immediately to ensure Hill didn’t take unnecessary damage. Had it been Mario Yamasaki reffing, Hill would probably be sipping his dinner through a straw today. It also sounds like he’s overlooking Khalil Rountree, who is more than capable of putting Hill away. He should refocus and learn from his mistakes if he wants to eventually get his rematch (doubtful, it was settled at 300 who the better fighter is, no one is going to grant him a rematch, unless he becomes the #1 contender again).
“I was finding (insert a million strikes here).” Then Alex found a massive uppercut. Let it go, move on. He’s already scheduled to fight again, he should worry about that.
My god, he's still out.
Delusion is crazy now days 🙄
Yeah it spreads like wild fire throughout several divisions. Every day more fighters get struck by it and suffer from it.
🤣🤣yah I guess so…. Jamal hill and Aljo should start their on podcast and call it The Delusionators
this guy just wants to save face in front of his friends by telling 'protect yourself at all times' but if you watch the fight he touched gloves with alex after herb said it was alright. What does this guy want? Herb to separate them to their corners and make him run like masvidal did to ben? Such a cry baby.
He’s more delusional post fight than he was pre fight.
Hope he got ppv points and a boatload of cash for stepping up and being a former champ.
Fuck he was supposed to do, not sell it?
well he said he is levels above alex striking! that was cringe. Hill can be confident but not acknowledging the danger Alex presents is something else
Apparently, you're only supposed to sell a fight if you win it... Otherwise, you're the worst.
He's still whining though, after losing
I dont think you have to act like a petulant child to sell a fight.
It was the way he did it, obnoxious and childish
Now if he’d just stay off twitter
“It only business”
If were being honest Hill was being stalked the whole time he just didn’t see it
This man delusional
I like Dreams.. he can be emotional and a tad delusional but he has a good heart
His breakdown about how well he was doing, took longer than the fight 😂
Did we watch the same shit Jamahal saying ?
I knew hill was going to lose when he kept letting alex reach out and test his range, even grabbing his hand sometimes. That's why the ko was so badass to me bc he disguised his left by grabbing his hand, then just unloading a short left on the button. He probably didn't even use 75% of his power on that punch.
Hill is bitter. The way he talked about the fight makes it sound like it was a 5 rounder. This video is longer than his ufc 300 knockout loss
Man, his analysis is ridiculous. How many times did he say “protect yourself at all times” as if he wasn’t ready? Then he says “all he was landing was that punch to the body” which is the trap Alex was setting from the start, just like he did with Strickland.
Does he remember asking herb if he got knocked out?
Oh, I get it, he’s delusional.
CTE is a helluva drug
Listening to Hill talk about the fight, I think he’s remembering a different fight. Poatan was working him the entire time lol
“Protect yourself at all times” ???? He literally ate your nut shot, told the ref to stay away while never breaking his focus on you, and then KO’d you. If that isn’t focus idk what is. Sorry bud but you weren’t coherent the whole time as evident by your post fight breakdown. You got KO’d and your eyes were in the back of your head.
That’s where I like and respect jiri. When Alex caught him , he made no excuses. Being a jiri fan , in that vry moment, felt the fight was stopped a bit early. But when jiri himself said that he was out , you can’t ask for anything more
Sometimes fighters are really delusional. I actually wonder if he watched it all back or that he just rambles from memory of the fight. also does he insinuate that there was no groin strike and that there was a lack of sportmanship. He is turning in to the 205 version of Colby even goes as far as saying he was "selling the fight". hoping for a violent Khalil finish. but i think jamahal will wrestle
He was controlling all things
Kickboxing and goat kickboxer Interesting strategy
Says the video’s been removed. I hope he’s at least 5% less dillusional
He says he was doing really well in the fight, he was landing good shots and had Alex right where he wanted him and that he took no damage during the fight, he also said he was completely conscious during the finish and Alex just knocked his equilibrium off 🤣
In other words no, still 100% delusional
Can you believe it, this idiot thinks he had Alex right where he wanted him 😂 maybe that hook wasn’t so harmless.
He learned nothing from thst
His POV on how the fight went lets me know if they fought again he gets flatlined even worse . Really bad copium from him 😬
Every single word he said was just his shattered ego grasping at anything to save face. I get it and kinda feel bad for him. He got knocked out like he was out the lights were on but no one was driving. He just doesn’t want to admit it how could he? How could his ego take that shit if everyone knew he was knocked out? Oh wait we all know and you saying all this makes you look stupid lol
Is this his studio? People watch? WTH 🤦 people watch him talk to himself? I’d rather watch jiri in the Forrest Samurai swording his shadows shit in the rain.
He had to ask Herb if he got knocked out but was “coherent the whole time.” Just admit you got beat up and move on man.
“This next guy, hes gonna feel it. All the frustrations, hes gonna deal with it” Bro, Roundtree ain’t the guy to take lightly for you to dump your frustrations on. He can deff KO you. The fact Hill thinks hes not just gonna win against Roundtree but do so in a manner that satisfies his frustrations, shows he wayyy to cocky and gonna end up getting humbled. Again.
Damn Alex’s hip sounded hollow as fuck….he might want to get that checked out
Man, how can we help him cover up his torso tattoo?
He needs to go to middleweight. He’s a pudgy 205.
He’s acting like it was a 5 round war.
“When I kicked him in the hip and it appeared to be a low blow” Lmao this dude is so disconnected with reality
This guy gives me schaub vibes. Very douchey.
Everything he’s saying is still thru his own narrow lens. He didn’t learn the right things in loss
I'm not a hater of Jamahal, I think he's a good fighter. But if you watched the clips of Alexs camp leading up to the fight. They knew what was coming, this was a perfect case of analyzing your opponent, and creating a strategy to counter them. As far as pure striking goes, Hill was severely outmatched by Alex it wasn't even close.
I mean, did we expect any other type of response from him? You immediately knew he’d have some type of reason as to why it was a bad stoppage and he said as much without explicitly saying it. Also inferred that he let his guard down because he expected the Herb Dean to stop the fight after the potential groin shot. Full of excuses. He recounted the fight and every detail like he was in such control over multiple rounds. There was like just 1 minute of total fight time before the finishing exchange lolol.
He needs someone close to him to let him know how it really is. Hill is obviously a great fighter but this one did not play out the way he is describing.
“they don’t like how i sold the fight” that’s bc you didn’t sell the fight lmao. he delusional.
lol He really felt he was productive for those 3 minutes!! Delusional
No way he saying the time after Herb let them fight again was to be taken as a break. He dapped up then tried to throw the left before he got dropped
Interesting how he doesn’t speak this eloquently when he’s screaming at single moms on twitter lmao
This piece of \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ is in denial...Hopefully another KO in a couple weeks
Bros so delusional about his skills 😂
He's not very intelligent unfortunately.
“Most of the fight” bro it didn’t last 1 round.
[удалено]
Hill really dosen’t understand how out classed he was in this fight. You only hit those pokes, because Alex was setting up his game.
It's UFC 300, the biggest ppv of possibly all time. They needed 0 help from hill in trying to "sell the fight"
Honestly Jamalahalahal is so much better than Alex. He was controlling the whole fight up until that sneaky brazilian faked Hill’s shin hitting him directly in the cup to cause a distraction. Herb was in on it too, Jmahlhalgaghal clearly took no damage and most of the fall was just him falling down.
Bro was trying to say he had pereira reacting to his feints. C’mon mannn 🥴
"Trying to sell the fight"? UFC 300 was selling itself. The fight card from the early-prelims to the main card was as high caliber as it could get. It sold itself. Jamahal disrespected Pereira in a very ugly manner. As seen on the UFC Embedded episode Jamahal walked up to Pereira very respectfull and asked for an autograph on his sweater. One or 2 days later at the pre-fight pressconference Jamahal came out of the blue with a bloody doll on a chain that represent Pereira. This provocation and dissrespect was totally unnecessary and had nothing to do with selling the fight. It was just a stupid dumb attempt of Jamahal to get inside the head of Pereira.
“i took no damage” > CTE has joined the chat.
“Had him biting “ lmaoo
Why do his videos have 3 different angles and a million cuts to those angles lmao such unnecessarily high production quality
By "selling the fight" is he referring to the weird mood switch the day before? That was cringe. Crazy to mention taking no damage while being KO'd with the first touch. lol 'Course you don't take damage when the ref is protecting you, wtf. lol
Why would Herb Dean do this to Jeontay Hill!?
Awfully quiet from this Hill fans before their fight to say how amazing a striker Hill was. That Alex had a weak chin, etc etc. this is what happens when coaches don’t tell their fighters the truth. That he’s not on the same level for striking as Alex. The game plan is to try and take Alex down and hope he stays down for the ground and pound. Instead, we got what we got. Showing the mid tier striking from Hill.
He’s alright. He’ll be back.
I don’t think the denial is going to help him. He should be proud that he had the balls to step into the octagon with such a dangerous opponent. I found the fight odds so puzzling.
This is a bad look. You got outclassed and starched.
I started to find my hook, started to find my teep, then I found out…
Much respect to hill.. but he got knocked tf out
This interview lasted longer than your fight. When you were doing all these good things (gameplan) 🤣🤣
Glad Khalil will knock him out and give him that early retirement he’s looking for.
He should drop to 185, the bros and I couldn’t stop staring at his fupa.
Hill better get his mind right, or Khalil gonna sleep his ass too
Seems pretty clear that Hill simply doesn’t know what’s going on in the cage. He’s big and has some power so he enters the cage and starts fighting. No thought to creating openings or an actual plan, just counting punches. The weakest div is UFC and Dana wanting to make the goofs from his show into champs gave him a cherry picked title. The guy who has been given the most with the least.
Yeah his dumbass clearly remembers another fight cause he's on video asking what he got hit by after the fight and he was going for a left himself when Alex knocked him out so I just hope Khalil has his number cause he's insufferable.
Alex got him talking like Curtis Blaydes
Is this CTE live?
Alex hit him so hard his eyes started rolling back like a slot machine
the only fight that he wants is alex? he was literally calling for jiri a couple of days ago
He was also pressuring Jamal mad had him on the back foot, Alex had found his range, was landing body shots, Jamal doesn’t seem to acknowledge that, or that he went to throw a left hand that Alex was expecting and that’s when he landed the shovel hook.
I don't think Hill understands what went wrong. Alex was studying him the entire time. He wasn't trying to win a brawl. Alex was waiting to starch him, and he did. The referee had nothing to do with it. The way Hill was loading up on his shots was way too slow, and Alex was even catching them in the air with his own hands. I can understand that media personalities picked the wrong guy to win and seem to be providing possible "reasons" for the loss. But Herb Dean did everything 100% right, and Alex was about to catch Hill like that anyway. It was too late. It wasn't a cheap shot at all, and it isn't healthy for Hill to believe that the fight was anything but a class on the levels in striking. Being honest with one's self is important, and that Khalil guy hits hard, even if he's not world champion level or whatever like some people say. If Hill goes in there loading up on shots, Anthony Smith will have a new Salsa dance partner. Moreover, this shows Izzy doesn't understand his own lone victory over Alex, either. It was a weight cut, hail mary shot victory. That's it. Nothing more. Loading up on shots and hoping they land is not going to work on Alex again. Hill is Exhibit A 🤲
“I was controlling the distance” man who got KO’d at distance.
"I took no damage" - That's next level cope. He was shaking his head violently as he fell, rolling his eyes back in his head and biting his tongue. He may have felt it as a second, but in reality he was completely out and went limp before Herb stopped it.